Especially the way it's been booming. Apec is huge now in the midwest. Scary. They are definately the people going on the first ship. Right with the telephone sanitizers.
If they telemarketers were paying my phone bill each month, then it's a different story. But I'm paying for it so that I can talk to mom, dad, grandma, friends, my boss, my utility/billing companies, and most importantly 911.
The very fact that these jerkoffs (hopefully just trolls) are posting that I can just ignore the phone when it rings, or PAY MORE MONEY to get callerID, so that I am able to ignore it more efficiently, doesn't make sense. I didn't buy the phone to ignore it. But that is what I did. WHen I moved, I got a new number, paying $2 extra dollars a month thank you very much to keep it unlisted, and have not given the number to ANYONE except family. Even businesses I work with have only my work number.
Notice the word "MY" in that sentence. My phone. In my house. My phone bills being paid from my REAL job.
My parents call, anyone calls, and we listen to it ring three times. Afraid to answer it. We have to screen each call. The process can take 25 seconds. 5 times a night. We then turned it all the way down. Missed two emergency phone calls from my parents going to the hospital. DIdn't see the blinking message til the next morning.
I find NO sympathy from telemarketers. There is MUCH more going on than when you blurt out "no one is MAKING you pick up the phone". It's my phone dammit, I WANT to pick it up, because it's a communication device. I didn't hire a fucking ringing billboard to put inside my house for $15 a month, just so that I can ignore it. If everyone ignored their phone, like you just suggested, you'd be out of a job then too, right?
Reader #7 says: "I am a telemarketer who has been feeding my family through this type of work for 17 years...[cut]...Telemarketing has made jobs available to those that were laid off from Corporate America. Unfortunately more people will be laid off if this law takes effect. I'm not saying we shouldn't respect people's rights. I'm just saying leave our jobs alone."
I didn't touch your job, b****. Quit calling me! Come on. Times change. Our family newspaper went under due to the popularity of eBay. Should I sue ebay? (RIAA would).
Honestly though, no one is touching these jobs. People survived before phones, they'll have to survive now.
Check out Reader #9: "I guess the only question for the people who advocate the Do Not Call List is: What would you rather have us do? Should we loot, burn, and take what we need to survive? Or would you rather look at the caller i.d. and not answer the phone?
Excuse me? You're saying 2 million workers are suddenly going to loot & burn just to survive. Because they are unable to get a job besides Telebitchemarketer? I don't remember looting after the dot com bubble. Listen, I'm quite the liberal & democrat, but even I don't mind sounding like Ronald Reagan on this issue. Get another fsking job!
With all the controversy over religion in our schools... this is just Korporations in our schools.
At least in college, these students are old enough to make their own decision, and the 'class' is before school actually starts (and not a credit class you pay $$ for). But for middle school?? I'd rather my kids be LEARNING algebra or something. Not how to fork over money to the Big-5. What's next... MPAA class?
Actually, that's exactly what they were doing for almost a decade. Sitting on their asses, slowing down technology so that they could milk the market for overpriced, price-fixed, CD's. Napster was written in 1999. Here it's 2003, and the Big-5 have been spouting that they've "been working on" an online version themselves. Not true. No one in a competitive marketplace would take that long to evolve.
Yea, kind of like "Oh shit, let's sue Napster out of existence....................and then buy it for pennies and try to make more money off the back of our indentured servants, err, artists"
I've thought about the same thing, too. Although I think a neigbor would be even better (although B&E to cover up...wait, B&E doesn't have such a stiff penalty after all)
Thanks for looking that up. I remember hearing that long ago in high school when a friend of mine (Norwegian foreign exchange student) was describing his trips to each of the european countries much like we describe our trips to different states here in the US.
"Yea, we were taking vacation in France, and on the weekend we said what the hell, lets drive down to Italy." Something to that effect.
Yea, it's a funny thing with that automatic price hike. They just can't turn off their basic cable. So you're getting it for free. And of course, everyone must be thieves, so they must charge you for it.
Yep, that's what you'd have to do if SBC catches up to you. (They almost always inevitably do)
If you were in an apartment complex, you could attempt to get the place to get wired up with a business line of some sort and 'share' that way.
If in a house, then the only way to defray a T1 would be to have great neigbors that want the same thing. Or offer a Wi-Fi point for the neigborhood. SOunds like a lot of work. But fun if you had the time & talent.
I had to laugh when I read that. I think the reason no one complains is because people are used to finding a 'file' on P2P and have it be a slow connection anyway. They're blaming it on the source... not you:)
What kind of hog is your heavy newsgroup & IRC downloaders?
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And box sets...well those are nice.
It was a newspaper revolving around mail-order auctions (antiques).
Can you imagine the number of calls the people not on this list are going to get now?! 50 calls a night!!! :)
Especially the way it's been booming. Apec is huge now in the midwest. Scary. They are definately the people going on the first ship. Right with the telephone sanitizers.
If they telemarketers were paying my phone bill each month, then it's a different story. But I'm paying for it so that I can talk to mom, dad, grandma, friends, my boss, my utility/billing companies, and most importantly 911.
The very fact that these jerkoffs (hopefully just trolls) are posting that I can just ignore the phone when it rings, or PAY MORE MONEY to get callerID, so that I am able to ignore it more efficiently, doesn't make sense. I didn't buy the phone to ignore it. But that is what I did. WHen I moved, I got a new number, paying $2 extra dollars a month thank you very much to keep it unlisted, and have not given the number to ANYONE except family. Even businesses I work with have only my work number.
Maybe we could just have a Smart-Person(tm) do not call list.
Notice the word "MY" in that sentence. My phone. In my house. My phone bills being paid from my REAL job.
My parents call, anyone calls, and we listen to it ring three times. Afraid to answer it. We have to screen each call. The process can take 25 seconds. 5 times a night. We then turned it all the way down. Missed two emergency phone calls from my parents going to the hospital. DIdn't see the blinking message til the next morning.
I find NO sympathy from telemarketers. There is MUCH more going on than when you blurt out "no one is MAKING you pick up the phone". It's my phone dammit, I WANT to pick it up, because it's a communication device. I didn't hire a fucking ringing billboard to put inside my house for $15 a month, just so that I can ignore it. If everyone ignored their phone, like you just suggested, you'd be out of a job then too, right?
Reader #7 says: "I am a telemarketer who has been feeding my family through this type of work for 17 years...[cut]...Telemarketing has made jobs available to those that were laid off from Corporate America. Unfortunately more people will be laid off if this law takes effect. I'm not saying we shouldn't respect people's rights. I'm just saying leave our jobs alone."
I didn't touch your job, b****. Quit calling me! Come on. Times change. Our family newspaper went under due to the popularity of eBay. Should I sue ebay? (RIAA would).
Honestly though, no one is touching these jobs. People survived before phones, they'll have to survive now.
Check out Reader #9: "I guess the only question for the people who advocate the Do Not Call List is: What would you rather have us do? Should we loot, burn, and take what we need to survive? Or would you rather look at the caller i.d. and not answer the phone?
Excuse me? You're saying 2 million workers are suddenly going to loot & burn just to survive. Because they are unable to get a job besides Telebitchemarketer? I don't remember looting after the dot com bubble. Listen, I'm quite the liberal & democrat, but even I don't mind sounding like Ronald Reagan on this issue. Get another fsking job!
At least in college, these students are old enough to make their own decision, and the 'class' is before school actually starts (and not a credit class you pay $$ for). But for middle school?? I'd rather my kids be LEARNING algebra or something. Not how to fork over money to the Big-5. What's next... MPAA class?
The winner is the last student standing (representing the final merge) Don't forget it's not going to be the Big-5 anymore, but the Big-4.
I don't think 20 people living in your house counts as dense population.
I just want the punishment to fit the crime. I'd be better off shoplifting these cd's from a store.
Lots and lots of hours in court & legal fees. Plus, we're all guilty, right?
If that was true, then they'd still be under the radar. (like newsgroups....shhhh)
Actually, that's exactly what they were doing for almost a decade. Sitting on their asses, slowing down technology so that they could milk the market for overpriced, price-fixed, CD's. Napster was written in 1999. Here it's 2003, and the Big-5 have been spouting that they've "been working on" an online version themselves. Not true. No one in a competitive marketplace would take that long to evolve.
Yea, kind of like "Oh shit, let's sue Napster out of existence....................and then buy it for pennies and try to make more money off the back of our indentured servants, err, artists"
I've thought about the same thing, too. Although I think a neigbor would be even better (although B&E to cover up ...wait, B&E doesn't have such a stiff penalty after all)
"Yea, we were taking vacation in France, and on the weekend we said what the hell, lets drive down to Italy." Something to that effect.
heheh. That's pretty funny. I had actually first wrote "where is my hovercars" but didn't like how the plural sounded. Luckly I has changed it.
Jeez. For $95/m and entitled as "PRO", I sure as hell wouldn't want my upload capped that hard. The only thing "PRO" about that deal is the cost.
Yea, it's a funny thing with that automatic price hike. They just can't turn off their basic cable. So you're getting it for free. And of course, everyone must be thieves, so they must charge you for it.
If you were in an apartment complex, you could attempt to get the place to get wired up with a business line of some sort and 'share' that way.
If in a house, then the only way to defray a T1 would be to have great neigbors that want the same thing. Or offer a Wi-Fi point for the neigborhood. SOunds like a lot of work. But fun if you had the time & talent.
I'd be too busy skiing and swimming in that land of yours to worry about my downloading. You should switch to trading CDR/DVDR by snail mail instead.
And where is our hovercars!??!
What kind of hog is your heavy newsgroup & IRC downloaders?
Thanks for sharing.