As the poster above notes, it might not be for you, but you're not this apps target audience. If you think Tex and Metafont are preferable to StarOffice or MS Office that means you.
Furthermore, there's no reason why this can't work very well. I have a nifty little program from Codeweavers called Crossover, the 1.01 version of which allows me to run Quicktime, Shockwave, Ipix, QTVR, and a bunch of other Win32 web browser plugins under Galeon (or KDE, or Skipstone, or Moz if you like web browsers to run slowly on your Athlon). The plugins work seamlessly, and running Quicktime on its own works reasonably well (one bug with minimisation seems to be the only real sticking point).
So yeah, Codeweavers can allow me to run a selection of Windows web browser lugins under Linux.
Also, Transgaming can allow me to run Alice, Tony Hawk, Return to Castle Wolfenstein (single or Multi), Sacrifice and a much of other selected Windows games under Linux
If the above two are possible, I see no reason why Lindows won't be able to make MS Office and Quicken run under Wine either. They already work 98% functionality with Wine and a lot of patience. With a cute app to remove the need to patience, and some money into going the last mile of COM and the other missing pieces, I see no reason why Lindows won't be:
a) Able to deliver what it promises
b) Worth it. Maybe....
* When that hundred buncks was *Australian* I thought it was reasonable, but they mean $US - ouch. $40-50 US would be more like it.
* I already have a Linux distribution. I want Lindows if its good. I am not going to fucking well install another OS to run it. Make Lindows an app for God's sake.
Its `a graphical browser for LDAP directories and schemas. Using GQ, an administrator can search through a directory and modify objects stored
in that directory'
It comes as Red Hat's standard LDAP admin tool. Get it here. Its not as good be, but neither is directory administrator the last time I looked.
and making DVD playing on Linux (excluding the current illegal hacks, which aren't a nice way to experiance the media you payed for; no menus to access lots of the content)
1. The US is not the world. It is a small annoying country between Canada and Mexico. In the US libdvdCSS they might be illegal hacks, in France and New Zealand the CSS itself is illegal, and in the rest of the world they're both quite fine.
2. Ogle's had menus for agres now, and they work fine. Xine has had them too and I hear also works well.
Huh? Of course you can install for multiple users. But you can't generally do this without running the code as root or some other similarly privileged user.
That was what I was saying. You don't seem to have responded.
I know RPM is supposed to be that way as well, but I've had a lot more dependency problems with RPMs than I have with apt.
I too have had more problems with apples as opposed to oranges:). Anyway, do the following on your Red Hat box:
1. Visit FreshRPMS 2. Download and install the APT p[ackage from there
3. Use APT to check your system for dodgy package, then apt-get update.
4. You may now APT all of Red Hat 7.2, sources, extras, and a bunch of brand new cutting edge packages created on request by FreshRPMs ninja Matthias Saou.
5. Smile:)
PS - Matthias needs more mirrors and Python / Perl ninjas to help him with RpmForge, his upcoming project. get his contact details from the web site.
IE for Solaris is based on a partial port of win32 to solaris--with this you could theoretically port office for win32 to Solaris and therefore *nix.
You sure could. This is done with a tool called Visual Mainwin that actually contains bits of the NT source code in their and works in conjunction with MS other dev tools. There's a native Linux port of Visual Mainwin.
Then join the list ask Matthias. Better yet, point him at the RPMfind source packages and ask him to upload them to freshrpms - he's a nice guy and really does a good job of making sure it all works cohesively so he'll probably bug fix them along the way.
Where to Get Packages
You'll find a lot of this stuff is included on the installation cd's of most distro's, or you can follow the links. Wherever possible, these point to the project's homepage, or else to rpmfind's download site. If you're using something other than a RedHat style distro, you may have to backtrack a bit from the rpmfind sites to get the right version.
No offence, but fuck backtracking:). There's been a billion tools to download apps and their dependencies, and Ximian's Red Carpet and APT are two of the best - between the two there's very little software which isn't available packaged to work on a Red Hat box.
Best of all, freshrpms.net is now available via APT. Freshrpms is an invaluable source of this kind of stuff - eg, if you're into DVD, its always up to date with the latest Ogle, Xine, Transcoder and Drip packages. Furthermore, Matthias from Freshrpms does requests: just name the software and he'll package it. He's also a bloody nice guy and writes tutorials on how to package properly too, asking for very little in return. Freshrpms is easily the best Red Hat package source out there.
Anyway, get APT here. Install it, then stick the following in your/etc/apt/sources.list
rpm http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt redhat-7.2-i386/redhat os
rpm http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt redhat-updates-7.2/redhat os
rpm http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt redhat-extra-7.2/redhat extra
rpm http://apt.freshrpms.net freshrpms/7.2 main
rpm-src http://apt.freshrpms.net freshrpms/7.2 main
rpm-src http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt redhat-7.2-i386/redhat os
rpm-src http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt redhat-updates-7.2/redhat os
rpm-src http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt redhat-extra-7.2/redhat extra
As you probably know, Ximian Gnome including Red Carpet is available from ximian.com. Combined with APT they provide a way to run up to date software on a stable distribution using standard packages, which as far as I know isn't available from anyone but Connectiva, Red Hat, and Polished Linux Distribution.
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[mikem@nailbox mikem]$ whois anarchsforlife.org
[whois.crsnic.net]
Whois Server Version 1.3
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602-254-6398
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There are a few reasons behind that. Firstly, MPlayer has many options with regard to what kind of output it should use. These are bese selected during compilation.
GFair enough, but that's an architecture problem that the team should hopefully fix soon.
Secondly, to be really useful, MPlayer requires several dlls, and codecs. These codecs either come from the windows dlls, or from closed source projects like the DivX(tm) MPEG-4 Codec.
So? Many (read most) Linux players do this: Avifile, Xine, etc. They can still be packaged - stick freshrpms.net in your sources.list on your redhat box and APT away. They just separate the DLLs from the software if necessary.
Xine can now do DivX, OpenDivX, DVD, MPEG 1/2, Windows Media Video 8 and 8, and most of the formats MPlayer can. So can Avifile. They're open source, Mplayer isn't - read their documentation sometime, specifically the part on packaging. And no, not just the codecs, but the project itself.
Non-Sorenson Quicktime in only useful for people making movies under Linux.
Many people put in a bloody large amount of time and effort into getting newcomers to the platform. Telling someone they're an idiot because they don't know how ldconfig works undoes that hard work and pisses me off. Its possible to answer newbiew questions withotu being a fuckwit, but the mplayer team would rather serve their own egos. Especially if mplayer was packaged like most Linux programs (the mplayer team forbid this) the postinstaller would do that anyway.
Ogle, Xine and Avifile are also more well designed, with most options avaliable via the GUI and command line switches rather than compile time options.
The MPlayer team have also yet to respond to Bero's response re: their GCC 2.96 claims, leaving something on their web page which has seemingly been proven to be technically false.
Furthermore, telling me in captial letters that MY SYSTEM IS TO SLOW TO PLAY THIS MOVIE when I'm fairly sure a 900 Mhz Athlon with 640MB of RAM is capable of playing a VGA res DivX is worth a laugh or two.
When there's a billion better players out there which don't go out of their way to be rude to people and Open Source licensing, why use Mplayer?
Nice incoherent rant. It reads quite coherantly apart from the fragment last sentence, which should have been deleted. Thanks for calling it a rant. Nice OT flame:D
As for this MPlayer group isn't nice to me.
Was I complaining about whether they were nice to me? Care to paste in where I was? I've always found mplayer simple if eccentric. But I don't like them being as rude as possible to anyone and everyone, its completely uneccessary. Anyone can answer a question without being a fuckwit. Its not hard.
It takes a lot of effort to get people into Linux. People who are unneccesarily rude to newcomers undo all that work.
But, the problem mplayer solves is not a simple so (at this stage) one shouldn't expect simplicity.
Xine solves the same problems and does it fairly simply. In terms of DVDs, Ogle does it simply too.
I can understand how they don't want to be bothered by clueless newbies so that they can instead spend more of their time hacking on this *GPL*ed program.
I can too. I can't understand why they want to antagonize newbies so much rather than simply answering the question.
MPlayer is most definitely not open source. It contains some Open Source components but cannot be distributed or modified under the terms of the Open Source Definition. Read the MPlayer docs.
Whatever. Well you seem to care enough to reply, so you obviously have an opinion.
Quicktime is a wrapper format for a number of codecs, just like AVI. An actual Quicktime file is almost invariably encoded in the Sorenson file format, which is is exclusively licensed to Apple. MPlayer cannot play Sorenson encoded Quicktime. Only Crossover can.
MPlayer won't play this file anyway, and just like Crossover, it isn't Open Source, but at least the Crossover give more back to OSS projects (like Wine). Also, the Crossover developers are friendly and responsive (as you'd expect when you pay for software), but more importantly, are civil (which you'd expect from everyone in real life apart from the Mplayer developers.
Telling people who don't know about ldconfig that they are they are too to use Linux, or that their Gigahertz Athlon with 640 MB of RAM is TOO SLOW and they should upgrade, and not responsonding to Bero's debarking their little RH GCC rant is childish and annoying.
Both are not Open Source, but at least the Crossover people share some of the
To successfully win in the auction, you needed to have a valid and relevant trademark or business name current as of last August.
Okay, the last August thing sorts things out for now. But what about the generics not taken after the auction that are still valuable? Someone's gonna register business names ASAP for every domain they can. Its not like its ever been trivial to form a business. It takes seven hundred dollars, a visit to incoporator.com.au or a similar site, a dropp in to your lcoal ASIC office, and and about forty minutes depending on travel time. They'll then wait for the `you must have had a business by this date' to roll forward to the date they started and band, they have their domain.
And its been done many times in the past by business trying to register generic domain names. Jeff Kennet, a politicial, simply formed a company to register jeff.com.au. And apple gets their generic domain name.
How about applecomputer.com? Orangemobile.com?
Why does every large business expect a god-given unfair advantage over smaller competitors?
Wolfenstein has two seperate binaries: one for multiplayer which contains a scripting engine and other goodies, another less complex one for multiplayer.
The Linux binary currently ONLY does multiplayer. Hopefully a native single player one will exist soon, but first the porting guy has to port the script engine.
Publish your software on an APT repository. APT now supports RPM packages and works very well, performing the same functions that Red Carpet does.
See my earlier post in this article to get download locations and existing soruces to test if yourself. Than go here to create an APT respository with your packages.
There's nothing for SLP's, DEB's, perl modules, etc.
RPM 3.05 is the Linux Standard Base packaging format. Debian is only LSB complaint in that is supports RPM via alien, which is quite obviously poor support at best.
Additionally, whether SLPs are packages are not is debatable depending on whether you think a packaging system must have dependencies to exist.
Perl modules *are* RPMs.
And if you've got the braisn to compile from source, you've got the brains to write a SPEC file in the rare case where one doesn't exist.
Subscriptions will not support Ximian. Red Hat already offers a more compelling product - they'll update your entire OS, not just the UI.
No. And you'd know that was false if you ever used Red Carpet, which contains OS updates, GNOME updates, Loki game demos, Codeweavers Wine, Opera, GNOME CVS packages, and a lot more.
I know debian is harder to get installed than other distros but *come on*.... it is a one time cost.
The Debian developers who wrote APT created it to be independent of packaging systems, and its been out on Connectiva and mandrake (and optional on Red hat) for ages.
and put the following in your/etc/apt/sources.list
rpm http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt redhat-7.2-i386/redhat os
rpm http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt redhat-updates-7.2/redhat os
rpm http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt redhat-extra-7.2/redhat extra
rpm ftp://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/apt redhat-freshrpms-7.2/redhat
freshrpms
rpm-src http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt redhat-7.2-i386/redhat os
rpm-src http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt redhat-updates-7.2/redhat os
rpm-src http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt redhat-extra-7.2/redhat extra
Problem solved.
* Standard (i.e, RPM) packages.
* No difficult install.
* Current stable releases.
* Auto hardware detection, and other modern OS features
* APT
More mirrors would be great, and Debian's larger list of packages, better packaging policies and greater amount of mirrors help, but personally I think the other Red Hat features more than make up for this.
there are lots of Unix-based competitors to Microsoft Exchange.
What about sendmail? Bad example. Sendmail is one of the most non Unix pieces of software ever, in terms of modular and secure design. More to the point, its at best clone on the Exchange Internet Mail Connector. An MTA != A groupware app.
There are not a lot of Exchange clones with code licensed from Microsoft in them that will behave exactly the same for Outlook clients.
Not, but there are clones which will behave exactly (as in, equivalent functionality and no staff retraining) the same for Outlook clients.
Evolution from Ximian. Yes indeed. Exchange connectors for Exchange5.5 and 2000 will be avaliable at the start of next year. They do all the X400 based stuff Outlook and Exchange do, including group calendaring, unsending messages, etc.
Volution from Caldera I thought this was a system management tool and a repackaging of postfix, an imap server, and a couple of other bits and pieces. Again, an MTA and MDA are not groupware. Though it it has OpenLDAP and more importantly some way of doing the calendaring stuff it would be close. Corect me if this is the case.
Insight from Bynari Indeed. Insight also does all the Exhcange - > Outlook specific stuff. The client is also free as in beer, so download it and give it a try. it does seem a little clunky tho, especially when compared to evolution.
Steltor You didn't mention Steltor that seems to be the best of the Exchange comaptible groupware servers. I have yet to implement it myself but from what I understand its much better maintained and works better with existing Unix services than the others.
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As the poster above notes, it might not be for you, but you're not this apps target audience. If you think Tex and Metafont are preferable to StarOffice or MS Office that means you.
Furthermore, there's no reason why this can't work very well. I have a nifty little program from Codeweavers called Crossover, the 1.01 version of which allows me to run Quicktime, Shockwave, Ipix, QTVR, and a bunch of other Win32 web browser plugins under Galeon (or KDE, or Skipstone, or Moz if you like web browsers to run slowly on your Athlon). The plugins work seamlessly, and running Quicktime on its own works reasonably well (one bug with minimisation seems to be the only real sticking point).
So yeah, Codeweavers can allow me to run a selection of Windows web browser lugins under Linux.
Also, Transgaming can allow me to run Alice, Tony Hawk, Return to Castle Wolfenstein (single or Multi), Sacrifice and a much of other selected Windows games under Linux
If the above two are possible, I see no reason why Lindows won't be able to make MS Office and Quicken run under Wine either. They already work 98% functionality with Wine and a lot of patience. With a cute app to remove the need to patience, and some money into going the last mile of COM and the other missing pieces, I see no reason why Lindows won't be:
a) Able to deliver what it promises
b) Worth it. Maybe....
* When that hundred buncks was *Australian* I thought it was reasonable, but they mean $US - ouch. $40-50 US would be more like it.
* I already have a Linux distribution. I want Lindows if its good. I am not going to fucking well install another OS to run it. Make Lindows an app for God's sake.
Its `a graphical browser for LDAP directories and schemas. Using GQ, an administrator can search through a directory and modify objects stored
in that directory'
It comes as Red Hat's standard LDAP admin tool. Get it here. Its not as good be, but neither is directory administrator the last time I looked.
Anyone else see the parallels?
and making DVD playing on Linux (excluding the current illegal hacks, which aren't a nice way to experiance the media you payed for; no menus to access lots of the content)
1. The US is not the world. It is a small annoying country between Canada and Mexico. In the US libdvdCSS they might be illegal hacks, in France and New Zealand the CSS itself is illegal, and in the rest of the world they're both quite fine.
2. Ogle's had menus for agres now, and they work fine. Xine has had them too and I hear also works well.
Huh? Of course you can install for multiple users. But you can't generally do this without running the code as root or some other similarly privileged user.
That was what I was saying. You don't seem to have responded.
Ya, I run lots of unknown binaries while logged in as root, it's my favorite activity.
So you never install any software for multiple users huh? What OS do you run? It sure can't be Linux...
I know RPM is supposed to be that way as well, but I've had a lot more dependency problems with RPMs than I have with apt.
:). Anyway, do the following on your Red Hat box:
:)
I too have had more problems with apples as opposed to oranges
1. Visit FreshRPMS
2. Download and install the APT p[ackage from there
3. Use APT to check your system for dodgy package, then apt-get update.
4. You may now APT all of Red Hat 7.2, sources, extras, and a bunch of brand new cutting edge packages created on request by FreshRPMs ninja Matthias Saou.
5. Smile
PS - Matthias needs more mirrors and Python / Perl ninjas to help him with RpmForge, his upcoming project. get his contact details from the web site.
Nobody buys SGI for the logo.
;)
Well, not the new logo anyway...
Just kidding.
IE for Solaris is based on a partial port of win32 to solaris--with this you could theoretically port office for win32 to Solaris and therefore *nix.
You sure could. This is done with a tool called Visual Mainwin that actually contains bits of the NT source code in their and works in conjunction with MS other dev tools. There's a native Linux port of Visual Mainwin.
Then join the list ask Matthias. Better yet, point him at the RPMfind source packages and ask him to upload them to freshrpms - he's a nice guy and really does a good job of making sure it all works cohesively so he'll probably bug fix them along the way.
Where to Get Packages
:). There's been a billion tools to download apps and their dependencies, and Ximian's Red Carpet and APT are two of the best - between the two there's very little software which isn't available packaged to work on a Red Hat box.
/etc/apt/sources.list
You'll find a lot of this stuff is included on the installation cd's of most distro's, or you can follow the links. Wherever possible, these point to the project's homepage, or else to rpmfind's download site. If you're using something other than a RedHat style distro, you may have to backtrack a bit from the rpmfind sites to get the right version.
No offence, but fuck backtracking
Best of all, freshrpms.net is now available via APT. Freshrpms is an invaluable source of this kind of stuff - eg, if you're into DVD, its always up to date with the latest Ogle, Xine, Transcoder and Drip packages. Furthermore, Matthias from Freshrpms does requests: just name the software and he'll package it. He's also a bloody nice guy and writes tutorials on how to package properly too, asking for very little in return. Freshrpms is easily the best Red Hat package source out there.
Anyway, get APT here. Install it, then stick the following in your
rpm http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt redhat-7.2-i386/redhat os
rpm http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt redhat-updates-7.2/redhat os
rpm http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt redhat-extra-7.2/redhat extra
rpm http://apt.freshrpms.net freshrpms/7.2 main
rpm-src http://apt.freshrpms.net freshrpms/7.2 main
rpm-src http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt redhat-7.2-i386/redhat os
rpm-src http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt redhat-updates-7.2/redhat os
rpm-src http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt redhat-extra-7.2/redhat extra
As you probably know, Ximian Gnome including Red Carpet is available from ximian.com. Combined with APT they provide a way to run up to date software on a stable distribution using standard packages, which as far as I know isn't available from anyone but Connectiva, Red Hat, and Polished Linux Distribution.
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[whois.crsnic.net]
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There are a few reasons behind that. Firstly, MPlayer has many options with regard to what kind of output it should use. These are bese selected during compilation.
GFair enough, but that's an architecture problem that the team should hopefully fix soon.
Secondly, to be really useful, MPlayer requires several dlls, and codecs. These codecs either come from the windows dlls, or from closed source projects like the DivX(tm) MPEG-4 Codec.
So? Many (read most) Linux players do this: Avifile, Xine, etc. They can still be packaged - stick freshrpms.net in your sources.list on your redhat box and APT away. They just separate the DLLs from the software if necessary.
Unlike the Open Source players, though, Mplayer uses non Open Source code in its actual binaries apparently. So yeah, ignore the web page claiming its open source and read this Mplayer therefore does not meet the Open Source Definition or the Free Software Freedoms list and shouldn't bother claiming to be Open Source.
Xine can now do DivX, OpenDivX, DVD, MPEG 1/2, Windows Media Video 8 and 8, and most of the formats MPlayer can. So can Avifile. They're open source, Mplayer isn't - read their documentation sometime, specifically the part on packaging. And no, not just the codecs, but the project itself.
Non-Sorenson Quicktime in only useful for people making movies under Linux.
Many people put in a bloody large amount of time and effort into getting newcomers to the platform. Telling someone they're an idiot because they don't know how ldconfig works undoes that hard work and pisses me off. Its possible to answer newbiew questions withotu being a fuckwit, but the mplayer team would rather serve their own egos. Especially if mplayer was packaged like most Linux programs (the mplayer team forbid this) the postinstaller would do that anyway.
Ogle, Xine and Avifile are also more well designed, with most options avaliable via the GUI and command line switches rather than compile time options.
The MPlayer team have also yet to respond to Bero's response re: their GCC 2.96 claims, leaving something on their web page which has seemingly been proven to be technically false.
Furthermore, telling me in captial letters that MY SYSTEM IS TO SLOW TO PLAY THIS MOVIE when I'm fairly sure a 900 Mhz Athlon with 640MB of RAM is capable of playing a VGA res DivX is worth a laugh or two.
When there's a billion better players out there which don't go out of their way to be rude to people and Open Source licensing, why use Mplayer?
Nice incoherent rant. :D
It reads quite coherantly apart from the fragment last sentence, which should have been deleted. Thanks for calling it a rant. Nice OT flame
As for this MPlayer group isn't nice to me.
Was I complaining about whether they were nice to me? Care to paste in where I was? I've always found mplayer simple if eccentric. But I don't like them being as rude as possible to anyone and everyone, its completely uneccessary. Anyone can answer a question without being a fuckwit. Its not hard.
It takes a lot of effort to get people into Linux. People who are unneccesarily rude to newcomers undo all that work.
But, the problem mplayer solves is not a simple so (at this stage) one shouldn't expect simplicity.
Xine solves the same problems and does it fairly simply. In terms of DVDs, Ogle does it simply too.
I can understand how they don't want to be bothered by clueless newbies so that they can instead spend more of their time hacking on this *GPL*ed program.
I can too. I can't understand why they want to antagonize newbies so much rather than simply answering the question.
MPlayer is most definitely not open source. It contains some Open Source components but cannot be distributed or modified under the terms of the Open Source Definition. Read the MPlayer docs.
Whatever.
Well you seem to care enough to reply, so you obviously have an opinion.
Quicktime is a wrapper format for a number of codecs, just like AVI. An actual Quicktime file is almost invariably encoded in the Sorenson file format, which is is exclusively licensed to Apple. MPlayer cannot play Sorenson encoded Quicktime. Only Crossover can.
MPlayer won't play this file anyway, and just like Crossover, it isn't Open Source, but at least the Crossover give more back to OSS projects (like Wine). Also, the Crossover developers are friendly and responsive (as you'd expect when you pay for software), but more importantly, are civil (which you'd expect from everyone in real life apart from the Mplayer developers.
Telling people who don't know about ldconfig that they are they are too to use Linux, or that their Gigahertz Athlon with 640 MB of RAM is TOO SLOW and they should upgrade, and not responsonding to Bero's debarking their little RH GCC rant is childish and annoying.
Both are not Open Source, but at least the Crossover people share some of the
To successfully win in the auction, you needed to have a valid and relevant trademark or business name current as of last August.
Okay, the last August thing sorts things out for now. But what about the generics not taken after the auction that are still valuable? Someone's gonna register business names ASAP for every domain they can. Its not like its ever been trivial to form a business. It takes seven hundred dollars, a visit to incoporator.com.au or a similar site, a dropp in to your lcoal ASIC office, and and about forty minutes depending on travel time. They'll then wait for the `you must have had a business by this date' to roll forward to the date they started and band, they have their domain.
And its been done many times in the past by business trying to register generic domain names. Jeff Kennet, a politicial, simply formed a company to register jeff.com.au. And apple gets their generic domain name.
How about applecomputer.com? Orangemobile.com?
Why does every large business expect a god-given unfair advantage over smaller competitors?
Wolfenstein has two seperate binaries: one for multiplayer which contains a scripting engine and other goodies, another less complex one for multiplayer.
The Linux binary currently ONLY does multiplayer. Hopefully a native single player one will exist soon, but first the porting guy has to port the script engine.
Both work perfectly under winex
Publish your software on an APT repository. APT now supports RPM packages and works very well, performing the same functions that Red Carpet does.
See my earlier post in this article to get download locations and existing soruces to test if yourself. Than go here to create an APT respository with your packages.
There's nothing for SLP's, DEB's, perl modules, etc.
RPM 3.05 is the Linux Standard Base packaging format. Debian is only LSB complaint in that is supports RPM via alien, which is quite obviously poor support at best.
Additionally, whether SLPs are packages are not is debatable depending on whether you think a packaging system must have dependencies to exist.
Perl modules *are* RPMs.
And if you've got the braisn to compile from source, you've got the brains to write a SPEC file in the rare case where one doesn't exist.
Subscriptions will not support Ximian. Red Hat already offers a more compelling product - they'll update your entire OS, not just the UI.
No. And you'd know that was false if you ever used Red Carpet, which contains OS updates, GNOME updates, Loki game demos, Codeweavers Wine, Opera, GNOME CVS packages, and a lot more.
Your comment is so very not insightful.
I know debian is harder to get installed than other distros but *come on*.... it is a one time cost.
. 2/ redhat/RPMS.extra/
/etc/apt/sources.list
The Debian developers who wrote APT created it to be independent of packaging systems, and its been out on Connectiva and mandrake (and optional on Red hat) for ages.
Red Hat users:
Download the APT package from:
http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt/redhat-extra-7
and put the following in your
rpm http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt redhat-7.2-i386/redhat os
rpm http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt redhat-updates-7.2/redhat os
rpm http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt redhat-extra-7.2/redhat extra
rpm ftp://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/apt redhat-freshrpms-7.2/redhat
freshrpms
rpm-src http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt redhat-7.2-i386/redhat os
rpm-src http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt redhat-updates-7.2/redhat os
rpm-src http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt redhat-extra-7.2/redhat extra
Problem solved.
* Standard (i.e, RPM) packages.
* No difficult install.
* Current stable releases.
* Auto hardware detection, and other modern OS features
* APT
More mirrors would be great, and Debian's larger list of packages, better packaging policies and greater amount of mirrors help, but personally I think the other Red Hat features more than make up for this.
there are lots of Unix-based competitors to Microsoft Exchange.
What about sendmail?
Bad example. Sendmail is one of the most non Unix pieces of software ever, in terms of modular and secure design. More to the point, its at best clone on the Exchange Internet Mail Connector. An MTA != A groupware app.
There are not a lot of Exchange clones with code licensed from Microsoft in them that will behave exactly the same for Outlook clients.
Not, but there are clones which will behave exactly (as in, equivalent functionality and no staff retraining) the same for Outlook clients.
Evolution from Ximian.
Yes indeed. Exchange connectors for Exchange5.5 and 2000 will be avaliable at the start of next year. They do all the X400 based stuff Outlook and Exchange do, including group calendaring, unsending messages, etc.
Volution from Caldera
I thought this was a system management tool and a repackaging of postfix, an imap server, and a couple of other bits and pieces. Again, an MTA and MDA are not groupware. Though it it has OpenLDAP and more importantly some way of doing the calendaring stuff it would be close. Corect me if this is the case.
Insight from Bynari
Indeed. Insight also does all the Exhcange - > Outlook specific stuff. The client is also free as in beer, so download it and give it a try. it does seem a little clunky tho, especially when compared to evolution.
Steltor
You didn't mention Steltor that seems to be the best of the Exchange comaptible groupware servers. I have yet to implement it myself but from what I understand its much better maintained and works better with existing Unix services than the others.
This is Slashdot, son.
;)
"Best tool for the job" == Linux, not matter what.
Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not. Sure Slashdot's not as good as it could be, but then again, it could be worse