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I'm not saying that sometimes cops are on the defenive, sometimes they are. As far as cops being the trouble makers I think that depends on the situation. Sometimes cops jobs are to just keep the peace, and make sure a footbal game doesn't get to out of hand. Sometimes the cops are there to protea ct certain target. Sometimes the cops are there to disrupt the protest. Just like an army police have different objectives.
Protesters have a right to fight back against agression, and some do. Can some dig up that tape of police rubber bulleting, a group of nuns who are running from the police. Not everyone is as peacefull as nuns.
have you ever been to a protest?
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Some cops do go to a protest looking for trouble. At some protests, the higher ups "pump up" the cops by telling them that we are racists or neo-nazi's and in one case told the cops that we had "bags of urine we were preparing to throw at them or had already thrown at them" (i heard this from a new york cop).
In new york city, riot duty is not-required, only cops who want to bust heads sign up. Many nyc cops look down on the nyc riot cops as sicko's. I've seen nyc riot cops break peoples fingers who were handcuffed, and were not resisting.
They don't "just have a club" they have a range of weapons, riot cops normally have a club, a gun, pepper spray, and in many cases flame resistant body armor.
The frontline riot cops in new york are backed up by snipers teams, armored personal carriers, mounted police and cops with assualt rifles.
"at least 20 to 1" in nyc the cops typically outnumber the protesters. At all of the protests I've been to only two where we did outnumber the cops. I rememeber a protest in boston, where the anarchists were surrounded by "special operations cops" (outnumbering us 2 to 1), outside of that they were flanked by a row of horses on the right and a row on the left, with 2 lines of spec ops motorcycle cops in front and 2 lines behind with a few fast responce vans following the march. About 18 anarchists about 80 cops, all of them armed with guns, pepper spray, shackles, and a pissed off expression. They pushed them around and yelled abuse at them from time to time, threated them, told them to shut up.
If you would like evidence of any of this, look on the web, or goto a major protest. This is not a secret.
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I'm not saying that sometimes cops are on the defenive, sometimes they are. As far as cops being the trouble makers I think that depends on the situation. Sometimes cops jobs are to just keep the peace, and make sure a footbal game doesn't get to out of hand. Sometimes the cops are there to protea ct certain target. Sometimes the cops are there to disrupt the protest. Just like an army police have different objectives.
Protesters have a right to fight back against agression, and some do. Can some dig up that tape of police rubber bulleting, a group of nuns who are running from the police. Not everyone is as peacefull as nuns.
Some cops do go to a protest looking for trouble. At some protests, the higher ups "pump up" the cops by telling them that we are racists or neo-nazi's and in one case told the cops that we had "bags of urine we were preparing to throw at them or had already thrown at them" (i heard this from a new york cop). In new york city, riot duty is not-required, only cops who want to bust heads sign up. Many nyc cops look down on the nyc riot cops as sicko's. I've seen nyc riot cops break peoples fingers who were handcuffed, and were not resisting. They don't "just have a club" they have a range of weapons, riot cops normally have a club, a gun, pepper spray, and in many cases flame resistant body armor. The frontline riot cops in new york are backed up by snipers teams, armored personal carriers, mounted police and cops with assualt rifles. "at least 20 to 1" in nyc the cops typically outnumber the protesters. At all of the protests I've been to only two where we did outnumber the cops. I rememeber a protest in boston, where the anarchists were surrounded by "special operations cops" (outnumbering us 2 to 1), outside of that they were flanked by a row of horses on the right and a row on the left, with 2 lines of spec ops motorcycle cops in front and 2 lines behind with a few fast responce vans following the march. About 18 anarchists about 80 cops, all of them armed with guns, pepper spray, shackles, and a pissed off expression. They pushed them around and yelled abuse at them from time to time, threated them, told them to shut up. If you would like evidence of any of this, look on the web, or goto a major protest. This is not a secret.