Wrong. Meltdown is not fixable, it can only be mitigated. And he sold his stock all last year. The last stock sale was in November, before this went public. Why are people lying for Intel?
At LEAST until June. My guess is they have known about this for years, as the Meltdown bug is easy to understand once you have it explained to you. All those genius designers at Intel who designed the thing never thought about this? Baloney.
Yes that is wrong. Intel is trying to fool you with terms like "microcode update" and "chip level fixes". There is no fix for Meltdown other than replacing your faulty Intel processor. NONE. If you don't believe me, ask the experts. You can only mitigate the issue.
It matters to me because I ride the bus with the people who pick up the trash of the Intel CEO. And I work hard to keep my country safe working in Government IT for $50,000 a year in Silicon Valley. The world revolves around me. We aren't all rich here in Silicon Valley.
Yes, it is insecure by design. What do you think the bug is? You cannot fix Meltdown because the flaw is in the hardware. You can only mitigate the effects.
It doesn't work that way. This isn't a simple "defect". This is a massive flaw. This is a thousand times worse than the FDIV or f00f bugs. They sold a defective product, and continue to do so. My guess is Intel knew about this for a long time too. The CEO has a good chance of going to jail too, since he dumped ALL his stock. The "scheduled sale" is a lie. No CEO dumps ALL of his stock.
Once the lawsuits come rolling in he won't have a choice. This isn't fixable. The best you can do is mitigate the damage. Good thing he sold all his stock before this went public.
The Meltdown bug is much much worse. It essentially means you cannot use Intel in the Cloud. This is why their stock lost $11 billion so far and why the CEO sold all his stock earlier.
Exactly. The funny thing is these "cloud companies" always control their own infrastructure, so these types of "fixes" make sense. Everyone else is screwed.
Because it doesn't make sense: Intel has a KNOWN UNFIXABLE FLAW in Meltdown. It cannot be fixed. You are saying "don't switch to AMD because they might have a major flaw too at some point". Meltdown is a much larger problem than Spectre is.
It works for Google because they run everything on their own infrastructure and have full control over it. They don't run it on someone elses "cloud". Rather ironic.
It isn't "chip level". The Intel PR spin is out in full effect. Meltdown is a major flaw that can only be fixed by removing the flawed Intel processor and replacing it with a processor that doesn't contain the flaw. If you don't do that, the best you can do is mitigate the effects. There is no microcode fix either. What Google is doing is recompiling everything, which is fine, but hackers aren't going to do that.
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Why do you continue to conflate the issues? There are multiple issues here. Meltdown is INTEL ONLY. Stop lying.
Wrong. Meltdown is not fixable, it can only be mitigated. And he sold his stock all last year. The last stock sale was in November, before this went public. Why are people lying for Intel?
WRONG. Repeating the lie doesn't make it true. MELTDOWN is INTEL ONLY. You are talking about a different issue. Please stop.
At LEAST until June. My guess is they have known about this for years, as the Meltdown bug is easy to understand once you have it explained to you. All those genius designers at Intel who designed the thing never thought about this? Baloney.
Yes that is wrong. Intel is trying to fool you with terms like "microcode update" and "chip level fixes". There is no fix for Meltdown other than replacing your faulty Intel processor. NONE. If you don't believe me, ask the experts. You can only mitigate the issue.
No it isn't. One of the key features of the processor was memory access management. This is a HUGE bug.
WRONG. The Meltdown attack ONLY AFFECTS INTEL PROCESSORS. We need to keep this lie from spreading.
It matters to me because I ride the bus with the people who pick up the trash of the Intel CEO. And I work hard to keep my country safe working in Government IT for $50,000 a year in Silicon Valley. The world revolves around me. We aren't all rich here in Silicon Valley.
This isn't a simple errata. This is HUGE flaw, a true game changer. It is a flaw that CANNOT BE FIXED, only mitigated to some extent.
Yes, it is insecure by design. What do you think the bug is? You cannot fix Meltdown because the flaw is in the hardware. You can only mitigate the effects.
No they aren't if they are trading on information that the public doesn't know about.
It doesn't work that way. This isn't a simple "defect". This is a massive flaw. This is a thousand times worse than the FDIV or f00f bugs. They sold a defective product, and continue to do so. My guess is Intel knew about this for a long time too. The CEO has a good chance of going to jail too, since he dumped ALL his stock. The "scheduled sale" is a lie. No CEO dumps ALL of his stock.
Once the lawsuits come rolling in he won't have a choice. This isn't fixable. The best you can do is mitigate the damage. Good thing he sold all his stock before this went public.
The Meltdown bug is much much worse. It essentially means you cannot use Intel in the Cloud. This is why their stock lost $11 billion so far and why the CEO sold all his stock earlier.
You read it wrong. The "fix" that Google is using is to recompile THEIR CODE. Hackers aren't going to do that.
No one said AMD was a magic bullet, but Intel at this point is bullet ridden. I only use Intel processors myself, but this is a huge flaw.
It is only $5000 for the "base model". A fool and his money are soon parted. Made in China for $300, sold for $5000.
Exactly. The funny thing is these "cloud companies" always control their own infrastructure, so these types of "fixes" make sense. Everyone else is screwed.
More Intel spin. Spectre and Meltdown are different flaws. Meltdown is severe and unfixable and only affects Intel.
Because it doesn't make sense: Intel has a KNOWN UNFIXABLE FLAW in Meltdown. It cannot be fixed. You are saying "don't switch to AMD because they might have a major flaw too at some point". Meltdown is a much larger problem than Spectre is.
Again: there are no Intel firmware fixes for Meldown. It cannot be fixed without replacing the processor. There are only mitigation workarounds.
It works for Google because they run everything on their own infrastructure and have full control over it. They don't run it on someone elses "cloud". Rather ironic.
It isn't "chip level". The Intel PR spin is out in full effect. Meltdown is a major flaw that can only be fixed by removing the flawed Intel processor and replacing it with a processor that doesn't contain the flaw. If you don't do that, the best you can do is mitigate the effects. There is no microcode fix either. What Google is doing is recompiling everything, which is fine, but hackers aren't going to do that.
AMD already has a "fixed" CPU. Only Intel is affected by Meltdown.
This isn't a "chip-level" patch. The spin control here is admirable.