I actually started watching it with my wife, thinking it would be something funny, or at least girl-on-girl action. But no. It was some chick shitting in a cup.
Get a fucking life. ooh, did she ground you?
Yes, because every marketing exec's wet dream is to get such a reputation as an anti-establishment house that Best Buy and Wal-Mart decide to not carry any Rockstar produced titles.
Get a grip.
not a narrowminded's marketoid dream (or narrowminded person in general). they should just go PC and Steam. it will sell like fucking hotcakes. that should send a strong message of "fuck you and your conventional business model".
while we're on the subject, who the shit buys their games at Wal-Mart? that's so sad I can barely type this sentence without cringing "I'll... uh... have a bucket of nails AND ONE ORANGE BOX, PLEASE!"
Ahh. Ogg have better tool for making bearskins. Is called flatter rock. Ogg need to upgrade tool for bearskins? Use bigger rock! Makes flatter bearskin!
if we are to properly use your analogy, a GUI is a plastic knife and vi is the swiss army knife.
you still did not answer my question. do you configure Cisco equipment with a GUI? wrangle Oracle with a GUI or sqlplus? manage your servers with VNC or good old ssh?
you have one fucked up view of progress. sure a GUI is suited for video editing, 3D modeling or browsing the WWW and such but not modifying simple configuration plain text files. the right tool for the right job, you know?
so if it doesn't have a GUI and you can't use it because it's "arcane" or too hard to figure out, then leave it to people that actually know what they are doing. that's the way $DEITY intended.
Is there a better management tool for packetfilter in the last few years? yes, it's called vi.
Because a filtering tool that is 20% faster doesn't matter if I can't hand off configuring it to reasonably competent engineer and go do more useful work. an engineer which can't edit some simple rules in a text file is not remotely competent. do your network jocks configure Cisco equipment thru a GUI?
So you get fascinating network purity, that runs twice as fast, on hardware that's 3-5 years old and therefore half the speed. Getting the "packetfilter" tools improved is great, but when you can't use it with the latest Broadcom drivers because key parts of the drivers were GPL licensed and Theo threw a hissy fit when the actual author noticed and tried to work it out, all that speed is wasted. it runs twice as fast on new hardware too. Broadcom does not make all of the network adapters in existence. I'm sure they will fix that in the next hackathon as usual. how hard is it to use hardware that is supported by your operating system?
And without good GUI's, or at least more usable interfaces, for systems people who are not quite so experienced, those tools will not be broadly used. That's not a good investment of engineering time. let me try an analogy (and forget about my sig for a minute) because this is slashdot anyway: not many people can figure out rocket engines; are they not a good investment of engineering time?
3d graphics cards, anyone? USB->serial adapters? Wacom graphics tablets? External USB DVD burners? I've seen reports of all of them failing with OpenBSD, where they work well under Linux, even with live Linux CD's. all these have no purpose in a server orientated OS. OpenBSD supports lots of hardware and people that check if their hardware is supported before whining are known to be running it as a workstation (not a "desktop"). OBSD is exciting because of its PF goodness, various other network magics and security, not because it supports the latest tablets.
Unless there's been a huge influx of driver support, which seems unlikely with Theo in charge and insulting polite GPL developers judge a man by his deeds, not his attitude.
I see it stuck in supporting network security applicances, not desktop use. I don't see that as "stuck". not everyone is trying to make the next point-click-drool Noobuntu, you know?
You're building X windows, various window managers, and the more useful X GU's like Firefox in less than an hour? userland without X (I don't use OpenBSD as a workstation). Firefox and such is not in the base source sets and you don't have to build it because it's available thru ports as a binary package.
Welcome to the (lack of) driver support for OpenBSD. driver support exists as long as the OS installs. it's just a boot problem. bugs exist everywhere, yes?
How long does it take to build the world now days? ~10 mins for the kernel and about an hour for the userland (2xP3/933, 512M, 2x10K). and considerably more on weaker hardware (as expected).
One of the things that has put me of OpenBSD is the need to compile from source if you want to use the stable branch. I realise this is partially due to limited resources and priorities, but I would argue that this is probably one area where there is room for improvement. no you do not. stop spreading FUD. there are binary sets for multiple archs in every release. this also goes for the ports. it is clearly stated in the FAQ that if you want stable you should use binary packages. the only time when you have to compile is when you make changes to the kernel (or are tracking -current system or ports).
The issue is that I have one 2940 fast narrow card and it won't boot... says there is no O/S. In the same machine... swap that card out to a 2940 fast wide and it boots just fine. Perhaps this is a firmware card issue. I have so far only tested these two cards... I plan to go get a handfull more. I use a couple of 2940 narrow and wide "in production" under NetBSD (without problems) and sadly I cannot test this issue under Open. however, I do have anecdotal evidence of the situation you are describing being true (friends with same config as yours tried and failed to boot OpenBSD on the thing -- install works fine and so do other operating systems).
Actually caused by strong feelings of insecurity. The secure don't need to attack to try to constantly prove their superiority.
I would have expected a more on topic explanation (nerds, matters, etc.) from a low ID-er, such as yourself, instead of the tired old psychobabble used by most armchair shrinks. but I guess you bought your ID on EBay too, eh?
(mods: apologies for the vitriolic remarks. I will not hold it against you for cracking the karma-whip.)
I just type "ph" , and it's running. I know exactly where Photoshop is installed and I don't need to "search" for it, but typing four keystrokes to get it running is faster than any other means of accessing it
it's funny how some command line goodness is praised in an OS known for it's user friendlyness and sleek GUI. dare I say ironic? these GUI fellows sure are on the cutting edge of 1970s technology.
Now almost all of the windows software houses use Microsoft products. They are Microsoft Certified, member of MSDN use almost exclusively MS visual Studio either for the old C++ or more often now the.net stuff.
I use editplus and mingw for win32 shit. nobody is holding a gun to your head to use "Microsoft products" if you want to target their platform.
shit, I can even cross-compile on one of my NetBSD boxen and code entirely in vi/KDevelop/whatever. options do exist.
yes I know, this is not the "professional MS way" where you install gigabytes upon gigabytes of Visual this and MSDN that thus slowing your shiny new workstation to a crawl, but what the hell, it works.
They know for their particular application, if they only return 47,000 hits, instead of 49,500, it's really no big deal. If they return some pages that aren't really relevant, also not a big deal.
you think they're storing the entire interwebs in a MySQL database? last time I checked it was used for AdWords, where exact numbers are indeed really relevant.
I have heard a lot of scary stories from the bashers but this is a new one. MySQL has trouble counting rows now?
I'm expecting that my latest project is going to need some horizontally partitioned materialized views on the slaves to allow it to scale up effectively. what, no orthogonal e-enabled sinergies?
everything worked OK-ish. however, when I sent a message the sent mail folder got pulled down again resulting in a couple thousand dupes. Opera mail here. can anyone else confirm this? whos bug/feature is it, Opera or GMails?
The problem is that's not a business. Who, in their right mind, would devote thousands of development hours cobbling something together, then cast it into the wind where basement developers use "what they want, and [get] rid of what they don't?" Sun?
How am I supposed to download it, if Comcast thinks I'm stealing (and who the heck do they think they are, judge dredd?) pirated music?
I'd venture a guess and say use one of your close mirrors, that have gobs of bandwidth. this way by the time the torrent starts picking up seeds and speed, the download is already done.
once more we have the typical error diagnostic under windows: "i think your error has to do with something else" (don't worry, i'm not poking fun at you, i'm just poking fun at the ridiculousmess of this sentence).
I for one can't believe that there are people that DO NOT use Total Commander, like $DEITY intended. seriously, get with the fucking program. it's bad enough that you're stuck with Losedows, at least you should make your lives a bit easier.
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not a narrowminded's marketoid dream (or narrowminded person in general). they should just go PC and Steam. it will sell like fucking hotcakes. that should send a strong message of "fuck you and your conventional business model".
while we're on the subject, who the shit buys their games at Wal-Mart? that's so sad I can barely type this sentence without cringing "I'll... uh... have a bucket of nails AND ONE ORANGE BOX, PLEASE!"
if we are to properly use your analogy, a GUI is a plastic knife and vi is the swiss army knife.
you still did not answer my question. do you configure Cisco equipment with a GUI? wrangle Oracle with a GUI or sqlplus? manage your servers with VNC or good old ssh?
you have one fucked up view of progress. sure a GUI is suited for video editing, 3D modeling or browsing the WWW and such but not modifying simple configuration plain text files. the right tool for the right job, you know?
so if it doesn't have a GUI and you can't use it because it's "arcane" or too hard to figure out, then leave it to people that actually know what they are doing. that's the way $DEITY intended.
eternal november will never end.
I would have expected a more on topic explanation (nerds, matters, etc.) from a low ID-er, such as yourself, instead of the tired old psychobabble used by most armchair shrinks. but I guess you bought your ID on EBay too, eh?
(mods: apologies for the vitriolic remarks. I will not hold it against you for cracking the karma-whip.)
it's funny how some command line goodness is praised in an OS known for it's user friendlyness and sleek GUI. dare I say ironic? these GUI fellows sure are on the cutting edge of 1970s technology.
theres two kinds of peoples on the internets
I use editplus and mingw for win32 shit. nobody is holding a gun to your head to use "Microsoft products" if you want to target their platform.
shit, I can even cross-compile on one of my NetBSD boxen and code entirely in vi/KDevelop/whatever. options do exist.
yes I know, this is not the "professional MS way" where you install gigabytes upon gigabytes of Visual this and MSDN that thus slowing your shiny new workstation to a crawl, but what the hell, it works.
settle down there, sherrif.
you think they're storing the entire interwebs in a MySQL database? last time I checked it was used for AdWords, where exact numbers are indeed really relevant.
I have heard a lot of scary stories from the bashers but this is a new one. MySQL has trouble counting rows now?
ps: murk loar
everything worked OK-ish. however, when I sent a message the sent mail folder got pulled down again resulting in a couple thousand dupes. Opera mail here. can anyone else confirm this? whos bug/feature is it, Opera or GMails?
I'd venture a guess and say use one of your close mirrors, that have gobs of bandwidth. this way by the time the torrent starts picking up seeds and speed, the download is already done.
example:
in other words...
(i am poking fun at him)
I for one can't believe that there are people that DO NOT use Total Commander, like $DEITY intended. seriously, get with the fucking program. it's bad enough that you're stuck with Losedows, at least you should make your lives a bit easier.