You are very naive I think. The mods I speak of intentionally use the mod "overrated" because it is not subject to meta-moderation and they will never be subject to scrutiny. It is the same reason they go into posts from days previous and mod down people after no one is even reading it anymore - only so they can damage the karma so as to make sure they cannot post with a +2 score.
Look at any Conservatives post history and look at the scores, see how many non-flamebait posts are modded negatively.
My original post in this thread got a few overrated mods.
These posts of mine were modded down as either flamebait or overrated - or both:
There was no reason for any of these posts to be modded down if there is any consistency with slashdot. A post that would be modded negative and thus invisible today would become a +5 if you just changed the word "Bush" to "Obama".
Are you getting the speed that they say you should? With the local DSL provider it is common for people's modems to be be arbitrarily set at a lower speed than what the modem and line can support.
The DSL provider here is supposed to be providing 5mb down and 768k up. In the probably 1500 DSL homes I have worked in, maybe 5 were set to 5mb down. The average was 1.5mb - with a large percentage set at 768k *down*.
I don't know about your area, but here they are statically set - in theory they are set to the maximum that the line conditions and distance from the station dictates. Most times they were randomly set by very poorly trained simians who installed them.
My solution (which you either did not read or already forgot) was in my previous post. Even though I asked you not to reply with more pap, but instead speak to a medical billing person - you have simply typed out the standard line.
Get some first hand experience. You have no frame of reference and you really are not even showing that you read what I typed. It really is a waste of time arguing with someone who does not wish to dig deeper than the propaganda. As a quasi-informed person you are doing others a disservice by simply consuming propaganda and then releasing it out into the world as your own words.
Accept the responsibility that comes with being intelligent and inform yourself as I had previously described.
With a private system at the very least I can CHOOSE to pay for something not covered. Once it goes in the socialist shithole non-standard procedures won't even exist anymore.
American has been the safety net for the socialist countries in terms of research driven by capitalistic concerns.
Obviously you do not work in or even close to anyone in the medical field - if you think deregulation is about price shopping - you are fucked in the head.
I'm talking about having to have 10 administrative employees for every doctor to handle all of the compliance and insurance BS.
Reduce the costs to what was proportional to the 1963 prices by removing all of the cruft that marxists having injected into the system and insurance would only be needed for catastrophic care - just like it was back in the day.
You lack the perspective of time - I can tell you are young and have allowed others to tell you how things work now and how they worked then.
The problems that the American system has have been caused solely by those I have mentioned. I understand that is not real easy to see as things sit right now; but had you seen how things worked before all of this BS, you would know what I mean.
Instead of feeding me back some pap that someone fed to you - talk to anyone involved with medical billing - any branch of medicine and see if they thing that what is coming will be an improvement.
Between the two of us, one of us directly supports several medical offices and doctor groups.
Between the two of us, one of us has experienced being treated in both a non-rationed and rationed healthcare system.
Between the two of us, one of us has direct knowledge of the the US medical system prior to the "Great Society" era.
Both of us are very familiar with the benefits of socialized medicine, yet the ONE of us who is in the best situation to judge their relative merits (through direct experience) has a sharply different opinion from the one who doesn't.
You are making a paper argument, and it makes some sense. But it will never work here because the people pushing it *here* have no interest in it working. It is simply a power-grab by marxist elements in our country who pose as liberals. It will not be set up like it is in Canada or the UK or wherever because the goal is not the same.
I don't know where you live, but having something weird wrong with you medically (I mean not straight-forward) is a fucking nightmare in a rationed medical system. I am in such a situation right now and I have recieved not useful help from either the USAF medical system or the Veterans Administration.
The doctors are browbeaten to not "waste" money on outside the box medical tests or procedures. You have a broken bone or a run of the mill heart problem - you are all set. Something you don't see every day - you are fucked.
I am a believer in American Exceptionalism - socialism *anything* is an anathema to that.
ALL of the problems with the US medical system are attributable to anti-market forces instituted by marxists in our country under the guise of helping people.
Strip away all the horseshit that has gummed up the works since 1964; replace it with minimal regulation to account for changes in the world since then and we would be fine.
On the same note, I am unsatisfied with some of the aspects of our Sun. I think I'll switch. At least that will be easier than switch broadband providers.
By changing the subject you have declared me the winner - it would be helpful to yourself if you tried to find all the other things you are wrong about due to muddled thinking.
The countries that you mention are just going to choak on it slower than the ones that go all in. Also, it is not about practicality or what makes sense in the US - it is about marxists using healthcare to get their policies instituted. If there is a "right" way to do it - it won't be done here in the US. These people are not socialists - they are marxists. Big difference.
I take it you have not read the 2nd amendment? I can only go by your incorrect statement. Here it is:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Since the rights of the gun owner in the USA are infringed in just about every way short of an absolute ban - I'd say that you have missed on this one. You don't seem to think too clearly.
As for abortion - I do not differentiate between a human being either being inside or outside a layer of skin and organs. The protection of innocent life is the basic function of government.
I don't want it to be legal for a mother to kill her three year old child OR her three months from conception child. What kind of monster would legislate otherwise?
And for what? So someone can escape their own irresponsibility at the expense of the most innocent life possible?
The reason there is no debate on abortion is that the people controlling the public airwaves know that their position cannot stand scrutiny.
If the PEOPLE wanted abortion it would not have to been snuck in through the judiciary. That is how the left must get what they want - through unelected members of the judiciary.
So... there are no waiting lists for certain life-saving procedures? You guys are basically an United States protectorate - what is your military budget? A few mil?
Canadians with money who need the best health care available come to the USA.
Call me back when you guys produce anything of note other than smug self-satisfied people. Relevant counties are busy here.
Also, I would not want to be "modded down" in the workplace for my political views. Slashdot people love free speech - as long as it agrees with theirs
Yeah, because you never hear about people being fired because their personal lives "reflect badly" on the company. At least on Slashdot the political views are ones you express here "in the workplace", and you're not being punished for how you live your own life outside of work.
I imagine that you only see it in one direction - say a situation where you are gay or smoke pot.
How about if you are a known conservative in a university and unaccountably you cannot get tenure, or a conservative at say ABC news.
The same people who in 1970 were agitating for their views to be aired on college campuses are they same people suppressing conversation on abortion (too inflammatory). They are quick to try to silence people with labels and personal attacks if they don't agree with global warming as a political movement.
A large percentage of people in this country believe that abortion is a horrible thing that should not be legal. Without considering the merits of their position - ask yourself: When has that position been voiced by a favorable character on any mainstream TV show?
The vast majority of people in the USA support the 2nd amendment. Without considering the merits of their position - ask yourself: When has that position been voiced by a favorable character on any mainstream TV show?
I miss the days of Archie Bunker - although the liberals always "won" on the show, at least both side got aired. That does not happen anymore.
Also, I would not want to be "modded down" in the workplace for my political views. Slashdot people love free speech - as long as it agrees with theirs.
I don't think they meant it in a "Democrat vs Republican" sense, but rather internal company politics (ie, focusing on certain aspects of the project because it's good for a promotion).
I don't know what you are talking about. Who is "they"? Google?
I'm not sure what message you were replying to. My intention was not to provide you with still another opportunity for you to try to insert your socialist world-view into the conversation.
Although I do find it humorous that you - a socialist - has chimed in on a discussion about autistic people not understanding human nature.
My Favorite quote about socialism:
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
Socialism is a failure. It has failed everywhere it has been tried. You cannot change the fundamental need of the individual to strive to improve his and his families situation anymore than you can teach a cat to be a dog.
Socialism works great in the autistic's imaginary paper world. It fails in the real world that in run by non-autistics.
News Flash: Non-Autistic spectrum people better at dealing with people!
Be honest with yourselves Slashdot - would you *really* want the average slashdot commenter managing *you*? An autocrat who only can see things in black or white and cannot work with other people - well, that is last on my list of wanted bosses.
Also, I would not want to be "modded down" in the workplace for my political views. Slashdot people love free speech - as long as it agrees with theirs.
The set up that you just just described is the most convoluted pile of mis-appropriated technological foolishness I have ever heard of.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
You remind me of the guy who spent months carefully crafting a 100% working 1/4 scale model of a 18th century guillotine. He was found by his wife in the basement after he committed suicide with it.
You went through all that - just so you could avoid.. what? A monthly telephone bill?
Why don't you just put a sign up at the gate of the compound you live in saying "I'm not even trying to appear human anymore, sorry"? Was your way easier?
And to top it all off - IT DOESN'T EVEN FUCKING WORK RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your whole home communication system is like Jack Lowery's breakfast delivery system in Brazil.
Autism is not a death sentence anymore - there are pills and everything.
Slashdot Mirror
You are very naive I think. The mods I speak of intentionally use the mod "overrated" because it is not subject to meta-moderation and they will never be subject to scrutiny. It is the same reason they go into posts from days previous and mod down people after no one is even reading it anymore - only so they can damage the karma so as to make sure they cannot post with a +2 score.
Look at any Conservatives post history and look at the scores, see how many non-flamebait posts are modded negatively.
My original post in this thread got a few overrated mods.
These posts of mine were modded down as either flamebait or overrated - or both:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1932134&cid=34738910
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1834998&cid=33990896
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1821400&cid=33899936
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1764628&cid=33356866
There was no reason for any of these posts to be modded down if there is any consistency with slashdot. A post that would be modded negative and thus invisible today would become a +5 if you just changed the word "Bush" to "Obama".
*Should* and *is* are often different things. Such is the case in the city where I reside. We have a crappier than normal DSL provider.
Are you getting the speed that they say you should? With the local DSL provider it is common for people's modems to be be arbitrarily set at a lower speed than what the modem and line can support.
The DSL provider here is supposed to be providing 5mb down and 768k up. In the probably 1500 DSL homes I have worked in, maybe 5 were set to 5mb down. The average was 1.5mb - with a large percentage set at 768k *down*.
I don't know about your area, but here they are statically set - in theory they are set to the maximum that the line conditions and distance from the station dictates. Most times they were randomly set by very poorly trained simians who installed them.
My solution (which you either did not read or already forgot) was in my previous post. Even though I asked you not to reply with more pap, but instead speak to a medical billing person - you have simply typed out the standard line.
Get some first hand experience. You have no frame of reference and you really are not even showing that you read what I typed. It really is a waste of time arguing with someone who does not wish to dig deeper than the propaganda. As a quasi-informed person you are doing others a disservice by simply consuming propaganda and then releasing it out into the world as your own words.
Accept the responsibility that comes with being intelligent and inform yourself as I had previously described.
... the Internet speed stinks on ice.
At this moment the "Speed Test" app from speedtest.net shows 1173kbps down and 196kbps up.
All other aspects of the Atrix are great. I love it vs my old iPhone 3GS.
With a private system at the very least I can CHOOSE to pay for something not covered. Once it goes in the socialist shithole non-standard procedures won't even exist anymore.
American has been the safety net for the socialist countries in terms of research driven by capitalistic concerns.
Obviously you do not work in or even close to anyone in the medical field - if you think deregulation is about price shopping - you are fucked in the head.
I'm talking about having to have 10 administrative employees for every doctor to handle all of the compliance and insurance BS.
Reduce the costs to what was proportional to the 1963 prices by removing all of the cruft that marxists having injected into the system and insurance would only be needed for catastrophic care - just like it was back in the day.
You lack the perspective of time - I can tell you are young and have allowed others to tell you how things work now and how they worked then.
The problems that the American system has have been caused solely by those I have mentioned. I understand that is not real easy to see as things sit right now; but had you seen how things worked before all of this BS, you would know what I mean.
Instead of feeding me back some pap that someone fed to you - talk to anyone involved with medical billing - any branch of medicine and see if they thing that what is coming will be an improvement.
Between the two of us, one of us directly supports several medical offices and doctor groups.
Between the two of us, one of us has experienced being treated in both a non-rationed and rationed healthcare system.
Between the two of us, one of us has direct knowledge of the the US medical system prior to the "Great Society" era.
Both of us are very familiar with the benefits of socialized medicine, yet the ONE of us who is in the best situation to judge their relative merits (through direct experience) has a sharply different opinion from the one who doesn't.
You are making a paper argument, and it makes some sense. But it will never work here because the people pushing it *here* have no interest in it working. It is simply a power-grab by marxist elements in our country who pose as liberals. It will not be set up like it is in Canada or the UK or wherever because the goal is not the same.
I don't know where you live, but having something weird wrong with you medically (I mean not straight-forward) is a fucking nightmare in a rationed medical system. I am in such a situation right now and I have recieved not useful help from either the USAF medical system or the Veterans Administration.
The doctors are browbeaten to not "waste" money on outside the box medical tests or procedures. You have a broken bone or a run of the mill heart problem - you are all set. Something you don't see every day - you are fucked.
I am a believer in American Exceptionalism - socialism *anything* is an anathema to that.
ALL of the problems with the US medical system are attributable to anti-market forces instituted by marxists in our country under the guise of helping people.
Strip away all the horseshit that has gummed up the works since 1964; replace it with minimal regulation to account for changes in the world since then and we would be fine.
I just don't understand .
I agree.
On the same note, I am unsatisfied with some of the aspects of our Sun. I think I'll switch. At least that will be easier than switch broadband providers.
By changing the subject you have declared me the winner - it would be helpful to yourself if you tried to find all the other things you are wrong about due to muddled thinking.
The countries that you mention are just going to choak on it slower than the ones that go all in. Also, it is not about practicality or what makes sense in the US - it is about marxists using healthcare to get their policies instituted. If there is a "right" way to do it - it won't be done here in the US. These people are not socialists - they are marxists. Big difference.
Liberal regulations caused all of the problems with the healthcare industry. Period.
That makes no sense.
Nice one!
I take it you have not read the 2nd amendment? I can only go by your incorrect statement. Here it is:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Since the rights of the gun owner in the USA are infringed in just about every way short of an absolute ban - I'd say that you have missed on this one. You don't seem to think too clearly.
As for abortion - I do not differentiate between a human being either being inside or outside a layer of skin and organs. The protection of innocent life is the basic function of government.
I don't want it to be legal for a mother to kill her three year old child OR her three months from conception child. What kind of monster would legislate otherwise?
And for what? So someone can escape their own irresponsibility at the expense of the most innocent life possible?
The reason there is no debate on abortion is that the people controlling the public airwaves know that their position cannot stand scrutiny.
If the PEOPLE wanted abortion it would not have to been snuck in through the judiciary. That is how the left must get what they want - through unelected members of the judiciary.
So... there are no waiting lists for certain life-saving procedures? You guys are basically an United States protectorate - what is your military budget? A few mil?
Canadians with money who need the best health care available come to the USA.
Call me back when you guys produce anything of note other than smug self-satisfied people. Relevant counties are busy here.
Your brain problem is showing.
A huge technical project and needed specific skills in banking have nothing to do whatsoever with how a government should be run.
You fail critical thinking.
You might enjoy this:
http://www.rantsandpranks.com/2010/09/i-attack-country-of-norway-and-win.html
Also, I would not want to be "modded down" in the workplace for my political views. Slashdot people love free speech - as long as it agrees with theirs
Yeah, because you never hear about people being fired because their personal lives "reflect badly" on the company. At least on Slashdot the political views are ones you express here "in the workplace", and you're not being punished for how you live your own life outside of work.
I imagine that you only see it in one direction - say a situation where you are gay or smoke pot.
How about if you are a known conservative in a university and unaccountably you cannot get tenure, or a conservative at say ABC news.
The same people who in 1970 were agitating for their views to be aired on college campuses are they same people suppressing conversation on abortion (too inflammatory). They are quick to try to silence people with labels and personal attacks if they don't agree with global warming as a political movement.
A large percentage of people in this country believe that abortion is a horrible thing that should not be legal. Without considering the merits of their position - ask yourself: When has that position been voiced by a favorable character on any mainstream TV show?
The vast majority of people in the USA support the 2nd amendment. Without considering the merits of their position - ask yourself: When has that position been voiced by a favorable character on any mainstream TV show?
I miss the days of Archie Bunker - although the liberals always "won" on the show, at least both side got aired. That does not happen anymore.
Also, I would not want to be "modded down" in the workplace for my political views. Slashdot people love free speech - as long as it agrees with theirs.
I don't think they meant it in a "Democrat vs Republican" sense, but rather internal company politics (ie, focusing on certain aspects of the project because it's good for a promotion).
I don't know what you are talking about. Who is "they"? Google?
I think it is possible that you have intentionally misunderstood my comment.
Replying to someone you disagree with is completely consistent with the principles of free speech.
Modding someone down however, is Stalinist censorship at it's most insidious.
That is what happens as a matter of fact here. It is quite revealing and consistent.
I'm not sure what message you were replying to. My intention was not to provide you with still another opportunity for you to try to insert your socialist world-view into the conversation.
Although I do find it humorous that you - a socialist - has chimed in on a discussion about autistic people not understanding human nature.
My Favorite quote about socialism:
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
Socialism is a failure. It has failed everywhere it has been tried. You cannot change the fundamental need of the individual to strive to improve his and his families situation anymore than you can teach a cat to be a dog.
Socialism works great in the autistic's imaginary paper world. It fails in the real world that in run by non-autistics.
Sorry.
Maybe the distinction here is the difference between technical managers and people managers. Large projects have both.
News Flash: Non-Autistic spectrum people better at dealing with people!
Be honest with yourselves Slashdot - would you *really* want the average slashdot commenter managing *you*? An autocrat who only can see things in black or white and cannot work with other people - well, that is last on my list of wanted bosses.
Also, I would not want to be "modded down" in the workplace for my political views. Slashdot people love free speech - as long as it agrees with theirs.
What are you... a fucking idiot?
The set up that you just just described is the most convoluted pile of mis-appropriated technological foolishness I have ever heard of.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
You remind me of the guy who spent months carefully crafting a 100% working 1/4 scale model of a 18th century guillotine. He was found by his wife in the basement after he committed suicide with it.
You went through all that - just so you could avoid .. what? A monthly telephone bill?
Why don't you just put a sign up at the gate of the compound you live in saying "I'm not even trying to appear human anymore, sorry"? Was your way easier?
And to top it all off - IT DOESN'T EVEN FUCKING WORK RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your whole home communication system is like Jack Lowery's breakfast delivery system in Brazil.
Autism is not a death sentence anymore - there are pills and everything.
Get help... and please God, do not breed. Ever.
Signed,
The World.
. . . already full of fish should be an intelligence test.