That's not what I'm suggesting. I'm merely pointing out that if you think politics is the only problem preventing action then either the environment you are in is totally fucked up or your mindset is utterly unrealistic. Extrapolating whichever of those problems to the entire world is just going to piss people off who have physical reality in their way instead of petty politics.
It also suggests women don't get to use guns and you have to give up on the right to the guns at 45. Here's an idea - maybe the existing gun rights are because there is nothing to say the right has been taken away and they actually have zero to do with the second amendment. Obvious isn't it but we still see all this redefining of "well regulated" and other pointlessness.
That's why this NRA foaming at the mouth with misleading weasel words is so tedious and pointless to anyone other than attention seekers in the NRA or people that they have fooled.
It's about how utterly fake and grasping at straws the entire thing is. If it was really about a "militia" there would be no objections from that bunch to the draft since they would already consider themselves drafted. Instead of hiding behind weasel justifications like the NRA does it's better to state honestly the rights you want.
So sad to see a handful of otherwise intelligent people so utterly fail to understand what Trump is about
Since he's a deliberate bullshit fountain of course so many people utterly fail to understand what Trump is about. All we can do is look at his past actions since his words can not be trusted.
Why do you think she started a needless war in Libya?
Wow, Hillary did that? She's far more capable than I thought possible given past performance.
It's a bit funny to see a Republican cheerleader not only complain about the removal of Ghaddaffi but to give a bystander reacting after the fact the credit for it.
She's done a lot worse in reality. Try harder. The Manning leak will help.
"A well regulated Militia" gets to regulate those people does it not? Your weasel word games are annoying and pointless. Guns are allowed and you don't even have to pretend to be a soldier (Militia - look up a dictionary) when you are too cowardly to be one.
Yes, but you can have legal gun ownership for just about everyone currently outside prison without people pretending that they are part of a "militia" and foaming at the mouth about it as some do.
In the rally case it's adding guns to the mix of deliberate crowd-exciting hysteria and some conflict between groups that hate each others guts, which has resulted in a few violent situations already. That's why it makes a bit more sense to pass the guns in at the door than at a peaceful event. It's a precaution equivalent to having Secret Service guards as is already happening. They probably are not needed either but Trump hasn't sent them away.
I wonder what's going to happen to the Cuban vote that Jeb and other Republicans counted on for as long? The Cold War bullshit has finally been dropped for Cuba decades after there was any reason to keep it up (apart from votes). Will Hillary get the Cubans or does Trump have some chance of getting them like other Republicans have before?
Taken in context in the 18th century, "well regulated" probably means something closer to "well trained",
That's a loophole that people try to use (and in doing so accuse the drafters of the constitution of stupidity - how "patriotic" is that?), but no it means what it says.
So, those maximum security prisoners without guns are also getting their constitutional rights trampled on?
The whole "I'm part of the militia but don't have the balls to sign up and fight" second amendment word weasel games are a stupid joke pushed by a sporting club that can't even get around to promoting gun safety on the range properly.
To kick an anthill, if you are all in the militia then why so much hue and cry about the draft and why did all the second amendment weenies stay weenies instead of doing their duty and signing up to go to Iraq? Don't get me started on the NRA director that gave anti-tank weapons to Hezbolla and sold who knows what to Iran.
It betrays a total lack of knowledge of the geography of that country
The above poster appears to be referring to the geography around a crossing point and walking distance around it. With the hypothetical idiocy people would be pushed out into the desert and die if it was going to be as stupid and inhuman an idea as being pushed - but it's all just talk even if it is disturbing talk.
Besides, even if Trump gets in he's got no more chance of getting his wilder and wackier ideas done (even if he actually intends to do them) than Obama had of closing GITMO. He's no Putin and can not run the country as absolutely as Putin runs Russia - we can be thankful to Washington, Jefferson and all the rest that they had a thing against despotic rule and put barriers in it's way.
This Hitler obsession is weird (especially all the people who ignore history and the dictionary to call him a socialist instead of the prime example of fascism). Even Saddam was compared to Hitler despite Saddam comparing HIMSELF to his hero the utter monster Stalin.
I sort of wish you were right but the Clinton's have been in the political game since before the civil war. It looks like it's coming down to a contest between two "born to rule" aristocrats, the sort of people George Washington and all the rest despised.
Only because he's got a weenie little European gun instead of a God Fearing American gun:)
His little stunt with an imported gun and the caption "America" spoke volumes about a guy that owes his fortune to Saudi oil money while local producers are being driven out of business.
If that's all it takes to make someone "great" then perhaps Colonel John Nagl and a pile of other people are the "great" ones for applying, documenting and distributing it in all but the new name before Petraeus turned up.
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That's not what I'm suggesting. I'm merely pointing out that if you think politics is the only problem preventing action then either the environment you are in is totally fucked up or your mindset is utterly unrealistic. Extrapolating whichever of those problems to the entire world is just going to piss people off who have physical reality in their way instead of petty politics.
It also suggests women don't get to use guns and you have to give up on the right to the guns at 45.
Here's an idea - maybe the existing gun rights are because there is nothing to say the right has been taken away and they actually have zero to do with the second amendment. Obvious isn't it but we still see all this redefining of "well regulated" and other pointlessness.
That's why this NRA foaming at the mouth with misleading weasel words is so tedious and pointless to anyone other than attention seekers in the NRA or people that they have fooled.
Hint - fascism. Not just for Italians.
This debate club shit is getting old. Why people want to have fun by arguing against reality mystifies me.
It's about how utterly fake and grasping at straws the entire thing is. If it was really about a "militia" there would be no objections from that bunch to the draft since they would already consider themselves drafted.
Instead of hiding behind weasel justifications like the NRA does it's better to state honestly the rights you want.
Trivial? Didn't I mention the guy doing research into automated mining in the engineering lab I did some work at in 1990?
Some things are actually difficult when politics is nowhere to be seen let alone get in the way. That is my point.
An autocrat saying "make it so" is not the solution to everything. Such a fantasy is magical thinking.
Since he's a deliberate bullshit fountain of course so many people utterly fail to understand what Trump is about. All we can do is look at his past actions since his words can not be trusted.
Wow, Hillary did that? She's far more capable than I thought possible given past performance.
It's a bit funny to see a Republican cheerleader not only complain about the removal of Ghaddaffi but to give a bystander reacting after the fact the credit for it.
She's done a lot worse in reality. Try harder. The Manning leak will help.
Personally I think it will be the "same ol shit" with a lot of crazy talk on top.
"A well regulated Militia" gets to regulate those people does it not?
Your weasel word games are annoying and pointless. Guns are allowed and you don't even have to pretend to be a soldier (Militia - look up a dictionary) when you are too cowardly to be one.
Yes, but you can have legal gun ownership for just about everyone currently outside prison without people pretending that they are part of a "militia" and foaming at the mouth about it as some do.
In the rally case it's adding guns to the mix of deliberate crowd-exciting hysteria and some conflict between groups that hate each others guts, which has resulted in a few violent situations already. That's why it makes a bit more sense to pass the guns in at the door than at a peaceful event. It's a precaution equivalent to having Secret Service guards as is already happening. They probably are not needed either but Trump hasn't sent them away.
Bunch of pussies.
Bowie knives, whiskey and crystal meth all round I say.
The entire thing is just a ridiculous stunt anyway.
I wonder what's going to happen to the Cuban vote that Jeb and other Republicans counted on for as long? The Cold War bullshit has finally been dropped for Cuba decades after there was any reason to keep it up (apart from votes). Will Hillary get the Cubans or does Trump have some chance of getting them like other Republicans have before?
That's a loophole that people try to use (and in doing so accuse the drafters of the constitution of stupidity - how "patriotic" is that?), but no it means what it says.
So, those maximum security prisoners without guns are also getting their constitutional rights trampled on?
The whole "I'm part of the militia but don't have the balls to sign up and fight" second amendment word weasel games are a stupid joke pushed by a sporting club that can't even get around to promoting gun safety on the range properly.
Guns at the convention is a REALLY bad idea.
According to the NRA (and therefore the Republican Party), guns are NEVER a bad idea.
Yep, according to one of their directors, Oliver North, not even a bad idea to sell to Iran and to terrorists who killed over one hundred US Marines.
To kick an anthill, if you are all in the militia then why so much hue and cry about the draft and why did all the second amendment weenies stay weenies instead of doing their duty and signing up to go to Iraq?
Don't get me started on the NRA director that gave anti-tank weapons to Hezbolla and sold who knows what to Iran.
The above poster appears to be referring to the geography around a crossing point and walking distance around it. With the hypothetical idiocy people would be pushed out into the desert and die if it was going to be as stupid and inhuman an idea as being pushed - but it's all just talk even if it is disturbing talk.
Besides, even if Trump gets in he's got no more chance of getting his wilder and wackier ideas done (even if he actually intends to do them) than Obama had of closing GITMO. He's no Putin and can not run the country as absolutely as Putin runs Russia - we can be thankful to Washington, Jefferson and all the rest that they had a thing against despotic rule and put barriers in it's way.
This Hitler obsession is weird (especially all the people who ignore history and the dictionary to call him a socialist instead of the prime example of fascism). Even Saddam was compared to Hitler despite Saddam comparing HIMSELF to his hero the utter monster Stalin.
I sort of wish you were right but the Clinton's have been in the political game since before the civil war.
It looks like it's coming down to a contest between two "born to rule" aristocrats, the sort of people George Washington and all the rest despised.
Nice troll but most readers are not as stupid as you are pretending to be.
You fallacy depends on Hitler never telling a lie to influence people.
Only in their own minds. My sister could shoot better than most 2nd amendment nuts before she was 15.
Only because he's got a weenie little European gun instead of a God Fearing American gun :)
His little stunt with an imported gun and the caption "America" spoke volumes about a guy that owes his fortune to Saudi oil money while local producers are being driven out of business.
If that's all it takes to make someone "great" then perhaps Colonel John Nagl and a pile of other people are the "great" ones for applying, documenting and distributing it in all but the new name before Petraeus turned up.