I've got 2! a VR319 I do BnW stuff on (amazing resolution compared to a color monitor doing BnW) and a VRT19, 20" trinitron tube (that's the size of the image not the size of the monitor)
Got both of them of a skip, the trick is to be able to drive them because they only do fixed sync and worse, they sync-on-green (but I've seen on the net that you can solder in some resistors and get it driven by external sync, too!!!)
So how do you do fixed sync/ sync-on-green monitor to work with linux?
Get yourself a millennium 1/2 maybe the new G200/G400 do it too and stick a sync_on_green option in your XF86Config:
(I've seen some 1024x768 modelines for the VRT19 but I don't care, as long as 1280x1024 works)
and that's it, you're all set!
Don't forget your friendly
Visual "GrayScale"
in your screen/svga section and you'll enjoy your black'n'white monitor even better!
That's for X, I haven't checked if SVGATextMode works with these monitors, 'coz driving characters at 1280x1024 maybe a little too fast for a millennium 2 but! you never know:-)
Now, to get two of these suckers on your desk, use x2x or better, xfree86 4 (which I still have to try when I have time to spare)
If you are serious about imaging, buy yourself some of these OLD monitors, you won't regret it, they are well worth the 20$ you'll pay for them at a computer fair (because nobody knows how to drive them with PCs...)
Only drawback appart from being fixed frequency... they run hot... something to consider if you have them at home.
Back to the subject, olvwm is your WM if you run 256 colors. Slick and functional.
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Re:64bit? you mean it will work on alpha procs????
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Hey Thanks!
In the old days however, Tru64 would only work on Digital Mobos, not on alphaPCs.
On alphapcs, only NT and linux would work. I wonder if that's still the case.
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Okay, so I have this box, a ruffian-21164-600Mhz running debian 2.1 and that's slow as shit running POV (at least as slow as my PII-233)
BUT! It's a 64bit machine... and what I'm reading about XFS sounds interesting. At least I could turn it into a half decent file server.
Anybody knows how stable 2.4.0pre is on the alpha? what about XFS? and what about how optimised GCC is become for the 21x64 processors?
Has compaq got their own journaling fs and a NIX system that works on alphaPC platforms?
I live in Liverpool, but I guess it's about the same in most towns in the UK:
You'd have to be CRAZY to ride a bike around here!!!! Ask yourself:
bike lanes? what bike lanes??? kids get run over 'coz there aren't even red lights so that they can cross some dangerous roads safely... (kids and drunk students;)
Are you sure it is your job to filter the pollution with your very own set of lungs?
Do you think you can win against a doubledecker in case of frontal collision (still not used those cars driving the WRONG $^$%^%& side of the road;)
Are you rich enough to pay fines for riding on the pavements... or to pay for a new one, when your bike gets stollen?
mmhh... thought not. The only alternative I found to be half viable is to rollerblade to the uni. I found these nifty skates with a blade that comes of the shoe, it's pretty cool to go inside shops and stuff. Still doesn't solve the problem of car pollution, but at least you can still ride on the pavement (towns like manchester forbid it:(((( )
Oh well, I guess at some point I'll have to learn how to drive a car and start contributing to air pollution myself...
Does anybody know of an firewall/NAT OpenBSD Floppy/LS120 project? you know, something like Linux Router which boots from [insert your favorite media] and decompresses in RAM
BTW, is a cut-down version of OpenBSD still OpenBSD?
Okay I have to admit I don't know shit about BSD, but I could see the point to have such a project... Even if it's just to say to your boss "look pops, it's OpenBSD booting a write-protected media, it's bound to be secure!"
Now that you mention it, the plastic does seem to yellow after some years:-)
Not that I'm still using a VT101 (never quite understood why pine and other programs would confuse the term, after all if it's a VT101, it's supposed to be VT100 compatible, right?), but it's funny to notice on my desk (I have an extra-large one:) that the VT320 case does not have the same color as the keyb I use with it (an LK401 I found in our dump) or the same color as my 19" BW monitor (VR319) or the 19" color monitor (VRT19).
Talking of the VR319, the one I was using blew-up on me (actually, it just smoked and the screen collapsed into a single spot, just like in the movies 8) and this is quite a bad news for me, because I was using it for displaying my medical images (CT scans), while doing the color 3D rendering on the VRT19...
Do you know know if compaq still sells 19" BW monitors? Last I checked, there was some kind of exchange program but I could not find the specs of the advertised monitor (PCXAV Auto-Scan, Monochrome Grayscale Monitor) anywhere else...
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Isn't there a pit in some versions of the game?
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At least in France and Russia, I'm sure there is...
as in
pit is covered by paper cisors fall in the pit
can't remember if stone destroys the pit or stone falls in the pit
probably depends on the size of the stone or something (haven't played the game in a lonnnng while;-)
But do I have to buy it bundled with MacOS even if I only want to use linux? Just imagine the cost for building such a cluster... Wasn't motorola trying to sell OSless mobos and got stopped by Apple or something? And what's this about the bios being built kind of to stop people from booting something else? No wonder people building linux clusters go for x86s or alphas... Oh well, this has already been said a zillion times, I guess... Still, nice to see linux running on another plateform even if it's not the most cost effective one.
Hehe, you render bones, I render prostates for radiotherapy treatment planning. Still I guess that like me you're only rendering isosurfaces, not CT or MRI voxel data.
For this purpose, one would need proper raytracing acceleration and I don't think 3D accelerators do raytracing stuff...
Anyway, that would be a nice feature on a videocard... hardware povray:-) (like povray compiled on a playstation 2 which came pretty high in the povray benchmark)
Oh well, that's just me mumbling about how great it would be to get cheapo 3D harware into hospitals to do therapy planning...
In my uni, there's a feeling that upgrading to win1900 will give more hassle than it's worth...
Unless there's a timebomb in SP6a, we're not likely to change the NT servers to 1900 anytime soon. Anyway, dual P333/256Mb RAM may probably not be enough to cope with the 1900 OS overhead....
Us changing the server to Linux probably has a higher chance than betting on us going for win1900.
Actually, the same happened with 3.51.... took us some time to decide NT4 was safe enuf... and then we regretted the change for some time:-) Not likely we'll do the same mistake twice!
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If you wonder what da heck is a joyboard...
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guru meditation n.
Amiga equivalent of `panic' in Unix (sometimes just called a `guru' or `guru event'). When the system crashes, a cryptic message of the form "GURU MEDITATION #XXXXXXXX.YYYYYYYY" may appear, indicating what the problem was. An Amiga guru can figure things out from the numbers. Sometimes a guru event must be followed by a Vulcan nerve pinch.
This term is (no surprise) an in-joke from the earliest days of the Amiga. An earlier product of the Amiga corporation was a device called a `Joyboard' which was basically a plastic board built onto a joystick-like device; it was sold with a skiing game cartridge for the Atari game machine. It is said that whenever the prototype OS crashed, the system programmer responsible would calm down by concentrating on a solution while sitting cross-legged on a Joyboard trying to keep the board in balance. This position resembled that of a meditating guru. Sadly, the joke was removed fairly early on (but there's a well-known patch to restore it in more recent versions).
Last time I checked, broadlogic supports linux (that is at the hardware level, they're not ISP) in their PCI receiver cards. Not only that, but they even use linux in some of their stand alone receivers. Cool hey?
So maybe they're the people to ask and the website to check first. My guess is that because you have the satellite receiver inside your computer, you should get a pretty high transfer rate to the HD or memory or whatever talks to the bus.
Whether such a data bandwidth is already available on some sats and/or from ISPs is another question.
Have you actually tried any of their intelligence tests?
I had to do some because that's (or that was) the way they recrute you in France in the Army.
Oh well, I failed... below average intelligence. Not because I deliberately tried to fail them, more because they are designed for mainstream thinking and that's something I don't have... little squares, numbers, letter series, tree drawing, all looks like the same crap to me.
Well, that didn't prevent me from doing a PhD, just prevented me from doing something really stupid.
About your marks going down and stuff, well, the system sucks. It took you some time to discover it, but same story here, you'll just have to live with it. Maths/physics/hard-core-science are the only things left that are of some value in education, because it's supposed to teach you some logic, anyway you look at it. You can look at it your very own specific way and still get to the answer, because that's the way maths work,,, that is if your teacher is worth two tosses.
For swords, I was more into two handed hammers, when I was playing ADD in the Alsacian forest with my other looser friends... Ahhhhh brings back memories:~)
Don't be too bitter, it's not worth it. Keep a low profile, and you'll have a chance to get out of it alive.
Man, my post was supposed to be funny... I sure hope Bruce understood it as in: I too have bad morning syndrome (BMS?) sometimes, heck, I sure know exactly how you feel, don't be too depressed though, you are still our god:-)
I somehow think you are barking at the wrong tree...
You made one good point though, let's not spoil Bruce's day any further, I think he's deserved enough of our kind help for one day! (BTW, for the humour impaired reader, this is called sarcasm...)
You're a respected figure as far as the free software Ultimate Goal is concerned, same whenever you talk about Debian, GNU or Linux and are also admired by billions of people who read/.
"look at his karma maaaaaaan, who is he? Is he... God??"
Besides, you can't just go around and say stuff like
"I think it's time to start talking lawsuit."
As usual, you got moderated up because you spoke, and Your Words made the exclusive/. news 5 minutes later, and MSNBC, MSBBC, MSCNN or MSTimes the day after... Hell I'm sure you'd get moderated up to +5 insightful if you posted your shopping list or something...
Just wondering, as I've seen 3 systems of teaching so far...
In France, exams are designed so that even if your calculator is full of the lectures and stuff, you don't win: it's not about what you know, it's about how you think, and you how get to the point. (anyway, it was like that in my time (20 to5 years ago)
In Britain, exams are bullshit. You learn the day before as much as you can for the exam, and calculators with memory are forbidden unless they're reset before the exam...
I don't know much about the russian system, but from what I've experienced, it's closer to the french system while the general knowledge is even more widespread across fields.
So of course, when I design exam questions, I keep this in mind, that just maybe it is not that important to remember what ASCII stands for, but rather that a standardized code is very important if you want to exchange files between different computers...
Is this bullshit as in (hey! look at me I'll be the human encyclopedia 'till 5PM!) a trend for excusing bad teachers and bad lecturers (and bad lecturing habits, such as using somebody else's teaching notes and teaching a subject you don't even fsckin understand) a general rule nowadays? is it like that too in the US or in other countries?
I'm working on radiotherapy planning, and I can tell you that for interactive rendering, hardware accelerated OpenGL is just... so smooth:-)
BUT! It's okay when nothing complicated is involved.. as in just the data m'am. In my case that would be the bladder/prostate/rectum compound, no texture, 1 or 2 lights, no shadow... If I were to add the patient skin with realistic semi-transparence and wanted to do functional animation as well, things bet much messier, and I (would) do that in pov... The problem then becomes, okay, everybody does it with clusters, but why? is it because 3D accelerated hardware is looked at the wrong way, or is it because this is not really the main focus (a.k.a games!:)
A card designed for med imaging would need to do clever things as marching cubes maybe, and also raytracing from voxels (any other suggestions?:) A side note: for hardware accelerated opengl and computation, I use IDL on NT but am waiting for a comparable solution in Linux (yep, sure do!)
You know, what makes me think that the boundary between interactive and "off-line" rendering hardware is getting blurred is stuff like the PS2 rendering engine doing stuff like povbench
As always on the internet, this has to be taken with a bit of caution, I don't even know if this is for real or not... but you get the idea.
Isn't there anything on a 3D accelerator that could be used to accelerate pov and the like?
I'm pretty new to 3D, and only rendering boring stuff like prostates, bladders and rectums, but I was wondering...
As far as I understand, all the drivers developped nowadays are for interactive 3D or real time 3D. Sometimes in scientific imaging, all you are really interested in is non-interactive rendering, like the stuff you would get from pov, renderman or radiance...
In this respect, it'd be much more interesting to use the 3D accelerator for just console-based rendering.
I know there was a plug for running mesa in parallel that would also support voodoo 1 at some point...
Is there any work done for accelerating this kind of "console" rendering or is all the work these days done on xfree drivers?
they're the people who host Thomas Pabst's site tomshardware.com
They must have plenty of bandwith if they can handle it! I'm sure Tom explained how he got to choose pair, but I can't seem to find the link (and Thomas the searchengive is dead...)
mmhhh... that's interesting... I'm doing a PhD in medical imaging in Britain and did my BS/MS here too, because basically I couldn't do an MS in med imaging in France (there's no such a thing as a specialised MS in France... (sorry, that was in 96, maybe things have changed since...))
But anyway, I'm using Linux too, I'll have a look at the mailing lists, if you have archives...
Mail moi a Eg0r, I'd be interested in hearing from you!:-)
Would it be possible to get debian to do a completely unsupervised install if you had a file with what packages you'd like to install and what the parameters are?
Slashdot Mirror
I've got 2! a VR319 I do BnW stuff on (amazing resolution compared to a color monitor doing BnW) and a VRT19, 20" trinitron tube (that's the size of the image not the size of the monitor)
Got both of them of a skip, the trick is to be able to drive them because they only do fixed sync and worse, they sync-on-green (but I've seen on the net that you can solder in some resistors and get it driven by external sync, too!!!)
So how do you do fixed sync/ sync-on-green monitor to work with linux?
Get yourself a millennium 1/2 maybe the new G200/G400 do it too and stick a sync_on_green option in your XF86Config:
You will also need the modlines: (I've seen some 1024x768 modelines for the VRT19 but I don't care, as long as 1280x1024 works) and that's it, you're all set!Don't forget your friendly
in your screen/svga section and you'll enjoy your black'n'white monitor even better!That's for X, I haven't checked if SVGATextMode works with these monitors, 'coz driving characters at 1280x1024 maybe a little too fast for a millennium 2 but! you never know :-)
Now, to get two of these suckers on your desk, use x2x or better, xfree86 4 (which I still have to try when I have time to spare)
If you are serious about imaging, buy yourself some of these OLD monitors, you won't regret it, they are well worth the 20$ you'll pay for them at a computer fair (because nobody knows how to drive them with PCs...)
Only drawback appart from being fixed frequency... they run hot... something to consider if you have them at home.
Back to the subject, olvwm is your WM if you run 256 colors. Slick and functional.
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In the old days however, Tru64 would only work on Digital Mobos, not on alphaPCs.
On alphapcs, only NT and linux would work. I wonder if that's still the case.
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BUT! It's a 64bit machine... and what I'm reading about XFS sounds interesting. At least I could turn it into a half decent file server.
Anybody knows how stable 2.4.0pre is on the alpha? what about XFS? and what about how optimised GCC is become for the 21x64 processors?
Has compaq got their own journaling fs and a NIX system that works on alphaPC platforms?
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I live in Liverpool, but I guess it's about the same in most towns in the UK:
You'd have to be CRAZY to ride a bike around here!!!! Ask yourself:
- bike lanes? what bike lanes??? kids get run over 'coz there aren't even red lights so that they can cross some dangerous roads safely... (kids and drunk students
;)
- Are you sure it is your job to filter the pollution with your very own set of lungs?
- Do you think you can win against a doubledecker in case of frontal collision (still not used those cars driving the WRONG $^$%^%& side of the road
;)
- Are you rich enough to pay fines for riding on the pavements... or to pay for a new one, when your bike gets stollen?
mmhh... thought not. The only alternative I found to be half viable is to rollerblade to the uni. I found these nifty skates with a blade that comes of the shoe, it's pretty cool to go inside shops and stuff. Still doesn't solve the problem of car pollution, but at least you can still ride on the pavement (towns like manchester forbid itOh well, I guess at some point I'll have to learn how to drive a car and start contributing to air pollution myself...
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BTW, is a cut-down version of OpenBSD still OpenBSD?
Okay I have to admit I don't know shit about BSD, but I could see the point to have such a project... Even if it's just to say to your boss "look pops, it's OpenBSD booting a write-protected media, it's bound to be secure!"
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Not that I'm still using a VT101 (never quite understood why pine and other programs would confuse the term, after all if it's a VT101, it's supposed to be VT100 compatible, right?), but it's funny to notice on my desk (I have an extra-large one :) that the VT320 case does not have the same color as the keyb I use with it (an LK401 I found in our dump) or the same color as my 19" BW monitor (VR319) or the 19" color monitor (VRT19).
Talking of the VR319, the one I was using blew-up on me (actually, it just smoked and the screen collapsed into a single spot, just like in the movies 8) and this is quite a bad news for me, because I was using it for displaying my medical images (CT scans), while doing the color 3D rendering on the VRT19...
Do you know know if compaq still sells 19" BW monitors? Last I checked, there was some kind of exchange program but I could not find the specs of the advertised monitor (PCXAV Auto-Scan, Monochrome Grayscale Monitor) anywhere else...
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as in
pit is covered by paper
cisors fall in the pit
can't remember if
stone destroys the pit
or
stone falls in the pit
probably depends on the size of the stone or something (haven't played the game in a lonnnng while
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For this purpose, one would need proper raytracing acceleration and I don't think 3D accelerators do raytracing stuff...
Anyway, that would be a nice feature on a videocard... hardware povray :-) (like povray compiled on a playstation 2 which came pretty high in the povray benchmark)
Oh well, that's just me mumbling about how great it would be to get cheapo 3D harware into hospitals to do therapy planning...
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Unless there's a timebomb in SP6a, we're not likely to change the NT servers to 1900 anytime soon. Anyway, dual P333/256Mb RAM may probably not be enough to cope with the 1900 OS overhead....
Us changing the server to Linux probably has a higher chance than betting on us going for win1900.
Actually, the same happened with 3.51 .... took us some time to decide NT4 was safe enuf... and then we regretted the change for some time :-) Not likely we'll do the same mistake twice!
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To me guru meditation always looked like blinking BSOD (a.k.a black screen of death :)
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So maybe they're the people to ask and the website to check first. My guess is that because you have the satellite receiver inside your computer, you should get a pretty high transfer rate to the HD or memory or whatever talks to the bus.
Whether such a data bandwidth is already available on some sats and/or from ISPs is another question.
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I had to do some because that's (or that was) the way they recrute you in France in the Army.
Oh well, I failed... below average intelligence. Not because I deliberately tried to fail them, more because they are designed for mainstream thinking and that's something I don't have... little squares, numbers, letter series, tree drawing, all looks like the same crap to me.
Well, that didn't prevent me from doing a PhD, just prevented me from doing something really stupid.
About your marks going down and stuff, well, the system sucks. It took you some time to discover it, but same story here, you'll just have to live with it.
Maths/physics/hard-core-science are the only things left that are of some value in education, because it's supposed to teach you some logic, anyway you look at it. You can look at it your very own specific way and still get to the answer, because that's the way maths work,,, that is if your teacher is worth two tosses.
For swords, I was more into two handed hammers, when I was playing ADD in the Alsacian forest with my other looser friends... Ahhhhh brings back memories :~)
Don't be too bitter, it's not worth it. Keep a low profile, and you'll have a chance to get out of it alive.
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I too have bad morning syndrome (BMS?) sometimes, heck, I sure know exactly how you feel, don't be too depressed though, you are still our god
I somehow think you are barking at the wrong tree...
You made one good point though, let's not spoil Bruce's day any further, I think he's deserved enough of our kind help for one day! (BTW, for the humour impaired reader, this is called sarcasm...)
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You're a respected figure as far as the free software Ultimate Goal is concerned, same whenever you talk about Debian, GNU or Linux and are also admired by billions of people who read /.
Besides, you can't just go around and say stuff like
As usual, you got moderated up because you spoke, and Your Words made the exclusive /. news 5 minutes later, and MSNBC, MSBBC, MSCNN or MSTimes the day after... Hell I'm sure you'd get moderated up to +5 insightful if you posted your shopping list or something...
So be careful,
But anyway, who am I to dare talking to You?
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In France, exams are designed so that even if your calculator is full of the lectures and stuff, you don't win: it's not about what you know, it's about how you think, and you how get to the point. (anyway, it was like that in my time (20 to5 years ago)
In Britain, exams are bullshit. You learn the day before as much as you can for the exam, and calculators with memory are forbidden unless they're reset before the exam...
I don't know much about the russian system, but from what I've experienced, it's closer to the french system while the general knowledge is even more widespread across fields.
So of course, when I design exam questions, I keep this in mind, that just maybe it is not that important to remember what ASCII stands for, but rather that a standardized code is very important if you want to exchange files between different computers...
Is this bullshit as in (hey! look at me I'll be the human encyclopedia 'till 5PM!) a trend for excusing bad teachers and bad lecturers (and bad lecturing habits, such as using somebody else's teaching notes and teaching a subject you don't even fsckin understand) a general rule nowadays? is it like that too in the US or in other countries?
Or.. Am I Just Not Getting It?
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BUT! It's okay when nothing complicated is involved.. as in just the data m'am. In my case that would be the bladder/prostate/rectum compound, no texture, 1 or 2 lights, no shadow... :)
If I were to add the patient skin with realistic semi-transparence and wanted to do functional animation as well, things bet much messier, and I (would) do that in pov... The problem then becomes, okay, everybody does it with clusters, but why? is it because 3D accelerated hardware is looked at the wrong way, or is it because this is not really the main focus (a.k.a games!
A card designed for med imaging would need to do clever things as marching cubes maybe, and also raytracing from voxels (any other suggestions? :)
A side note: for hardware accelerated opengl and computation, I use IDL on NT but am waiting for a comparable solution in Linux (yep, sure do!)
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As always on the internet, this has to be taken with a bit of caution, I don't even know if this is for real or not... but you get the idea.
Isn't there anything on a 3D accelerator that could be used to accelerate pov and the like?
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As far as I understand, all the drivers developped nowadays are for interactive 3D or real time 3D. Sometimes in scientific imaging, all you are really interested in is non-interactive rendering, like the stuff you would get from pov, renderman or radiance...
In this respect, it'd be much more interesting to use the 3D accelerator for just console-based rendering.
I know there was a plug for running mesa in parallel that would also support voodoo 1 at some point...
Is there any work done for accelerating this kind of "console" rendering or is all the work these days done on xfree drivers?
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They must have plenty of bandwith if they can handle it! I'm sure Tom explained how he got to choose pair, but I can't seem to find the link (and Thomas the searchengive is dead...)
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Nothing mentioned about security, stability, scalability... people seem just not to care.
And when you are a linux fan, that can hurt a lot...
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But anyway, I'm using Linux too, I'll have a look at the mailing lists, if you have archives...
Mail moi a Eg0r, I'd be interested in hearing from you! :-)
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yummeeeeeee :-)
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That would be... Neat :-)
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ffff... ffff... ffffffff...
nah, forget it :-)
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