sorry best buy, you have lost a customer from your actions.
I am...err... was a consistent shopper there.
i personally will not buy from best buy again till this case is resolved, and never again if BB wins it.
i'm utterly sick of large corperations trying ot sling their laywer might around onto undeserving people.
i guess BB's just one more tagged onto the list of places/corperations i will not buy from due to their actions.
RIAA **AA's---buy used! (or not at all) MPAA Wallyworld M$ Lexmark gamespy and now.. Best buy!
funny too... because i was just going to head down to best buy next weekend for a large chunk of my christmas shopping... (i cant forget to buy myself a present or two now can i?!).... i'm in the market for a printer as well.. ha.. and sice i've been playing online games more, i WAS going to get a copy of gamespy too...
speaking with your wallet--the only language corperations understand.
yea. lets indroduce a virus to wipe out the cane toad! The only problem you see...is there's this thing that viruses have a tendancy to do now and then--ever hear of viruses jumping form one species to another?
i have no desire to see a mode of transportation that IS GOVERNEMNT SUBSIDISED kept in operation when, still, only the obscenely rich consiter using it.
to all the tards who claim its the schools bandwith. the students are footing the bill directly for a connection. the schools in turn should be acting as an ISP does..
people who say go find another provider should shut their pie holes. Most college people i know are pretty damn poor, and i cant see them being able to justify spending even 15 a month for a SECOND internet connection.
if they gave the ports those utilities use a very low QOS, that in my eyes would be acceptable.
there is a ton that can be done with traffic shaping to alleviate the problem of a certain app or virus whoring all of the bandwith...RED, givign packets a certain QOS, etc. Those admins are tards if they figure out how to implement RED and QOS on problem ports.
they outlaw one program.... then who's to stop them from outlawing another one that they just dont like people using... or some other application that takes up a lot of bandwith but it perfectly legit...
the cost of building things as cheap as solar panels generally isnt that big of a deal. The real cost for small ticket items is getting them into orbit and beyond.
when looking at other small ticket items such as astronaut's foods.. you may as well give them the ultra ultra premium brand name shit, because who cares if you save 20 bucks by getting them the generic brand when it costs #,000's just to send it up.
it'd be cool if a p2p im project got off the ground.
imagine crypto communication standard, with a decentralised redundant fault tolerant database which will store a contact list for when you log in through a new pc, and one page with enough criteria to make searching for users a reality if they choose to add in contact into, while mainting unique numeric identity for each user. (none of that unique name billybob802.11g crap..somethign similar to icq). the hardest thing i see in a system like this would be keeping spammers off it, that and possibly keeping a 'friendly' databse host from attempting to crack some/all of the users login information their helping to host.
i'm of the opinion that nothing should be filtered or blocked. The isp i think should help INFORM the users how to protect their PC's at THE USERS END. perhaps even provide links, perhaps suggested 'easy generic fixes', or provide tech support (for a fee) to help protect their machines.
Sure, they block something *most* people do not need to use today when an exploit hits and its all peachy everyone screams (YAY!), what will you do when they block ssh, or your precious yahoo IM, when an exploit is discovered for those, but you have it patched? Do you think once they block it, it'll ever be opened back up? I think not.
My isps's recently blocked icmp8 (ping!) due the recent worm. how long before i'll get my ability to ping back? i dunno. I would leave their sorry asses JUST FOR THAT if there were competition. however my town has one high speed isp. (local cable monopolies rule!)
Now, getting side trcked some a subect thats very similar. i will say this:
i LOATHE isp's who ban "servers". If its a residental person using a webserver for a personal use, or whatnot. there should be no problem. If its for a commercial use, make em pay more. And if their worried about a residental user whoring bandwith, use some adaptive throtteling based on local IP addressed! too many places use a FIFO queue (first in first out) setup, and THAT is what'll make a bandwith whoor suck to have on the network...
my isp technically disallows any 'servers' in their contract (sshd included! they actually told me to take sshd down, cause its a sever!.. i log in remotely once maybe every 4 months? wow!)
So. it basically means they can tell you to stop using any service they dont want you to.
I'd like see the backlash they'd get if they tried telling all the Yahoo IM, icq, and MSN users to shut off their "server"
for anyone wanting to know more info on my quality isp, visit them at:
www.the-bridge.net
&
www.rangebroadband.com
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"It will be the society of the rich people, for the rich people, by the rich people."
oh PLEASSE, get off your crack... and get into reality... i mean where have you been?
It sounds as if you're implying that our society isnt like this already!
sorry best buy,
you have lost a customer from your actions.
I am...err... was a consistent shopper there.
i personally will not buy from best buy again till this case is resolved, and never again if BB wins it.
i'm utterly sick of large corperations trying ot sling their laywer might around onto undeserving people.
i guess BB's just one more tagged onto the list of places/corperations i will not buy from due to their actions.
RIAA **AA's---buy used! (or not at all)
MPAA
Wallyworld
M$
Lexmark
gamespy
and now.. Best buy!
funny too... because i was just going to head down to best buy next weekend for a large chunk of my christmas shopping... (i cant forget to buy myself a present or two now can i?!).... i'm in the market for a printer as well.. ha.. and sice i've been playing online games more, i WAS going to get a copy of gamespy too...
speaking with your wallet--the only language corperations understand.
yea. lets indroduce a virus to wipe out the cane toad! The only problem you see...is there's this thing that viruses have a tendancy to do now and then--ever hear of viruses jumping form one species to another?
good fucking riddance.
i have no desire to see a mode of transportation that IS GOVERNEMNT SUBSIDISED kept in operation when, still, only the obscenely rich consiter using it.
to all the tards who claim its the schools bandwith. the students are footing the bill directly for a connection. the schools in turn should be acting as an ISP does..
... or some other application that takes up a lot of bandwith but it perfectly legit...
people who say go find another provider should shut their pie holes. Most college people i know are pretty damn poor, and i cant see them being able to justify spending even 15 a month for a SECOND internet connection.
if they gave the ports those utilities use a very low QOS, that in my eyes would be acceptable.
there is a ton that can be done with traffic shaping to alleviate the problem of a certain app or virus whoring all of the bandwith...RED, givign packets a certain QOS, etc. Those admins are tards if they figure out how to implement RED and QOS on problem ports.
they outlaw one program.... then who's to stop them from outlawing another one that they just dont like people using
the cost of building things as cheap as solar panels generally isnt that big of a deal. The real cost for small ticket items is getting them into orbit and beyond.
when looking at other small ticket items such as astronaut's foods.. you may as well give them the ultra ultra premium brand name shit, because who cares if you save 20 bucks by getting them the generic brand when it costs #,000's just to send it up.
it'd be cool if a p2p im project got off the ground.
imagine crypto communication standard, with a decentralised redundant fault tolerant database which will store a contact list for when you log in through a new pc, and one page with enough criteria to make searching for users a reality if they choose to add in contact into, while mainting unique numeric identity for each user. (none of that unique name billybob802.11g crap..somethign similar to icq). the hardest thing i see in a system like this would be keeping spammers off it, that and possibly keeping a 'friendly' databse host from attempting to crack some/all of the users login information their helping to host.
damn, somedays i wish i were a coder.
i'm of the opinion that nothing should be filtered or blocked. The isp i think should help INFORM the users how to protect their PC's at THE USERS END. perhaps even provide links, perhaps suggested 'easy generic fixes', or provide tech support (for a fee) to help protect their machines. Sure, they block something *most* people do not need to use today when an exploit hits and its all peachy everyone screams (YAY!), what will you do when they block ssh, or your precious yahoo IM, when an exploit is discovered for those, but you have it patched? Do you think once they block it, it'll ever be opened back up? I think not. My isps's recently blocked icmp8 (ping!) due the recent worm. how long before i'll get my ability to ping back? i dunno. I would leave their sorry asses JUST FOR THAT if there were competition. however my town has one high speed isp. (local cable monopolies rule!) Now, getting side trcked some a subect thats very similar. i will say this: i LOATHE isp's who ban "servers". If its a residental person using a webserver for a personal use, or whatnot. there should be no problem. If its for a commercial use, make em pay more. And if their worried about a residental user whoring bandwith, use some adaptive throtteling based on local IP addressed! too many places use a FIFO queue (first in first out) setup, and THAT is what'll make a bandwith whoor suck to have on the network... my isp technically disallows any 'servers' in their contract (sshd included! they actually told me to take sshd down, cause its a sever!.. i log in remotely once maybe every 4 months? wow!) So. it basically means they can tell you to stop using any service they dont want you to. I'd like see the backlash they'd get if they tried telling all the Yahoo IM, icq, and MSN users to shut off their "server" for anyone wanting to know more info on my quality isp, visit them at: www.the-bridge.net & www.rangebroadband.com