1. Well on his Blog Jonathan says "Companies compete, communities simply fracture". What I do not agree with is that "communities simply" fracture. It sound disrespecting to communities, like the king sitting on the big throne talking about "hobbyists" as other people say.
Companies fracture as well. Companies produce products and some of these products end up having a long life cycle where as other products end up having a very short live cycle. Btw. people "fracture" as well. I believe it is in nature to "fracture". It is a life cycle thing.
2. Communities cooperate but companies have to cooperate more and more as well if they want to prosper in the 21st century. Just because SUN had a great reputation does not mean they will have on the 21st century. I believe Linux is about a highly sophisticated cooperation model. Modern companies should cooperate more like i.e. the Linux movement does with its professional kernel developers.
3. Well profit is what the stock market wants. That I can understand. But in the long run I believe great companies are about there customers and there satisfied customers. That in return returns the profit. Just doing profit for profits sake is not a long term business model for me.
4. Well yes, I believe Sun and MS will cooperate more in the future if that is what their clients want. I believe software users want more and more collaboration across platforms and software. I believe Sun and Microsoft will share and compete in the future as Gentoo and Ubuntu do. They compete but they still inter operate. The isolationistic approach of one standard for all does not work in a modern democracy as everybody wants to be as individual as possible. So yes, if the customer profits you will see a collaboration between Sun and MS. Btw MS is trying to get into the Linux business by their own: sining up with Novell, Linspire and a few others. That is the Bill Gates approach;).
5. I believe great software is about individual leaders, great people and their compassion for software. Linus is a role model and he must be granted that leadership. The more companies like MS and Sun admit that themself the more they will prospers as well. In other words; the sooner SUN gives out their ZFS under GPLv2 the better for SUN! The faster SUN can learn and will prosper because the actively participate in a modern model of software development. SUN can profit heeps from the Linux software development model. I'm sure Blender is great as well but I believe that the Linux Kernel is the better role model.
6. Now this point is highly interesting. Who is looking on whom and who can profit from whom! That is indeed a very good question. I believe SUN can profit a lot more from Linux then Linux from SUN. With "profit" I actually mean learn. Learn and observe how the kernel development process works. Learn how GIT works. Use GIT to develop and improve ZFS.
The question - to me - is not if it is in SUN's interests or not. The question is how fast SUN realizes that it is in SUN's interest to inter operate with the OSS world.
I believe it is the companies who have to look to the Linux kernel development process and not vice versa. Of course both have great people but it is not only about the people but how to get the most from the developers and their creative minds. That is where Linus and the Linux development model excel the more/most.
7. I do understand that SUN has liabilities to its customers, but: If the court is need to step into an new development process then the court is need. Still I believe it is not about the court, its about the process to develop software in the 21st century. It is about interoperability and customer satisfaction. Linux customers are among the happiest in the world because the kernel model produces great software. Because the process of the Linux kernel model to produce great software works and is a 21st century role model.
Linux also has compliance issues (SCO, Microsoft) but they do not build software "in fear of compliance" issues. They build software because they believe
This is very interesting. I got some questions:
1. How can you say, that companies and communities do not compete? That is total Bullshit! Communities and Companies compete more then ever these days. The same as Bloggers compete with the old school media. There is a hell of a lot competition going on. Gnome and KDE are another wonderful example of how communities compete against each other. Ubuntu and Gentoo are another wonderful example!
2. The Old Software development and distribution models do not work anymore and Sun will find out, if they want or if they do not want. Sun needs to learn more - lots more - from the OpenSource development model if they want to prosper in the future.
3. As Linus puts it, merely trying to take away the best people from the Linux Kernel will not work. Sun needs to realize that they must organize them selfs more and more like the Kernel development model is organized.
4. OpenSource tactics can and will be implemented in the Future business world as well.
5. Linux is a 21st century role model.
Very interesting! I'm curious when Google will start using this to sort their results.
InfoCodex already does all this today with the help of a linguistical database and synonym and/or similarity search across 5 languages (German, French, Italian, English and Spanish). With InfoCodex you can search for a block of text in one language and it will find you all the similar documents in the other languages as well. All of this is done without one single minute of training - because of the linguistical database (Ontology) that contains 2.9 Mio words and terms (i.e. "European Court of Justice" or "The President of the United States" are terms and reconized as such).
See the following links: http://www.ywesee.com/pmwiki.php/Ywesee/InfoCodexP rocedure http://www.ywesee.com/uploads/Ywesee/archimag-e.pd f http://www.ywesee.com/uploads/Ywesee/Evaluationsen tscheid-e.pdf http://www.ywesee.com/uploads/Main/USP_e.pdf
I believe there is also another method to do text mining even more efficiently; with a linguistical database.
InfoCodex comes with a linguistical database containing 3.2 Mio words in German, English, Italian, French and Spanish.
So by using InfoCodex you can do a similarity search by entering the search string only in one language, i.e. InfoCodex will find you all the documents in the other languages as well, without entering the translated search string. Examples: Patentsearch or finding similar documents across 5 different languages.
Hey Sean
This really makes sense here what you are saying. And it would not make such a big dent into Googles Business world either. It also does not tie down the google movement unnecessarily. It would make Google a lot more precise though. Nice advice, Google should hire you or pay you for that if they are smart.
Best
Zeno
1. Has anybody heard of YAML? That is an XML replacement too.
2. Giving descriptive names to documents is WIKI-Style and makes sense to me. This makes things more human readable and that is good.
I posted a news item some days ago about oddb.org (see also linuxmednews.org). The complete 'datastructure' of oddb.org is done with Madlaine - a prevayler solution as mnemonic. Yes it has sped up development, yes the search queries are delivered faster, yes we are very happy with this new technology. You can have a look at our source at download.ywesee.com/ruby/oddb.org. You can test online at http://www.oddb.org.
We are using Madlaine also on other mission-critical projects and it also works great there.
Slashdot Mirror
Thanks! Yes, I do not like the post features of Slashdot too much. Not very user friendly. I forgot to put in the br-Tags, sorry.
g -discussion-from-slashdot/
This may be an easier read for you:
http://zdavatz.wordpress.com/2007/06/14/continuin
At the moment I am enjoying Steven Pressfield's "Gates of Fire".
But I will check out your recommendation!
1. Well on his Blog Jonathan says "Companies compete, communities simply fracture". What I do not agree with is that "communities simply" fracture. It sound disrespecting to communities, like the king sitting on the big throne talking about "hobbyists" as other people say. Companies fracture as well. Companies produce products and some of these products end up having a long life cycle where as other products end up having a very short live cycle. Btw. people "fracture" as well. I believe it is in nature to "fracture". It is a life cycle thing. 2. Communities cooperate but companies have to cooperate more and more as well if they want to prosper in the 21st century. Just because SUN had a great reputation does not mean they will have on the 21st century. I believe Linux is about a highly sophisticated cooperation model. Modern companies should cooperate more like i.e. the Linux movement does with its professional kernel developers. 3. Well profit is what the stock market wants. That I can understand. But in the long run I believe great companies are about there customers and there satisfied customers. That in return returns the profit. Just doing profit for profits sake is not a long term business model for me. 4. Well yes, I believe Sun and MS will cooperate more in the future if that is what their clients want. I believe software users want more and more collaboration across platforms and software. I believe Sun and Microsoft will share and compete in the future as Gentoo and Ubuntu do. They compete but they still inter operate. The isolationistic approach of one standard for all does not work in a modern democracy as everybody wants to be as individual as possible. So yes, if the customer profits you will see a collaboration between Sun and MS. Btw MS is trying to get into the Linux business by their own: sining up with Novell, Linspire and a few others. That is the Bill Gates approach ;).
5. I believe great software is about individual leaders, great people and their compassion for software. Linus is a role model and he must be granted that leadership. The more companies like MS and Sun admit that themself the more they will prospers as well. In other words; the sooner SUN gives out their ZFS under GPLv2 the better for SUN! The faster SUN can learn and will prosper because the actively participate in a modern model of software development. SUN can profit heeps from the Linux software development model. I'm sure Blender is great as well but I believe that the Linux Kernel is the better role model.
6. Now this point is highly interesting. Who is looking on whom and who can profit from whom! That is indeed a very good question. I believe SUN can profit a lot more from Linux then Linux from SUN. With "profit" I actually mean learn. Learn and observe how the kernel development process works. Learn how GIT works. Use GIT to develop and improve ZFS.
The question - to me - is not if it is in SUN's interests or not. The question is how fast SUN realizes that it is in SUN's interest to inter operate with the OSS world.
I believe it is the companies who have to look to the Linux kernel development process and not vice versa. Of course both have great people but it is not only about the people but how to get the most from the developers and their creative minds. That is where Linus and the Linux development model excel the more/most.
7. I do understand that SUN has liabilities to its customers, but: If the court is need to step into an new development process then the court is need. Still I believe it is not about the court, its about the process to develop software in the 21st century. It is about interoperability and customer satisfaction. Linux customers are among the happiest in the world because the kernel model produces great software. Because the process of the Linux kernel model to produce great software works and is a 21st century role model.
Linux also has compliance issues (SCO, Microsoft) but they do not build software "in fear of compliance" issues. They build software because they believe
This is very interesting. I got some questions: 1. How can you say, that companies and communities do not compete? That is total Bullshit! Communities and Companies compete more then ever these days. The same as Bloggers compete with the old school media. There is a hell of a lot competition going on. Gnome and KDE are another wonderful example of how communities compete against each other. Ubuntu and Gentoo are another wonderful example! 2. The Old Software development and distribution models do not work anymore and Sun will find out, if they want or if they do not want. Sun needs to learn more - lots more - from the OpenSource development model if they want to prosper in the future. 3. As Linus puts it, merely trying to take away the best people from the Linux Kernel will not work. Sun needs to realize that they must organize them selfs more and more like the Kernel development model is organized. 4. OpenSource tactics can and will be implemented in the Future business world as well. 5. Linux is a 21st century role model.
Very interesting! I'm curious when Google will start using this to sort their results.P rocedure d f n tscheid-e.pdf
InfoCodex already does all this today with the help of a linguistical database and synonym and/or similarity search across 5 languages (German, French, Italian, English and Spanish). With InfoCodex you can search for a block of text in one language and it will find you all the similar documents in the other languages as well. All of this is done without one single minute of training - because of the linguistical database (Ontology) that contains 2.9 Mio words and terms (i.e. "European Court of Justice" or "The President of the United States" are terms and reconized as such).
See the following links:
http://www.ywesee.com/pmwiki.php/Ywesee/InfoCodex
http://www.ywesee.com/uploads/Ywesee/archimag-e.p
http://www.ywesee.com/uploads/Ywesee/Evaluationse
http://www.ywesee.com/uploads/Main/USP_e.pdf
I totally agree. Check this out:
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I believe there is also another method to do text mining even more efficiently; with a linguistical database.
InfoCodex comes with a linguistical database containing 3.2 Mio words in German, English, Italian, French and Spanish.
So by using InfoCodex you can do a similarity search by entering the search string only in one language, i.e. InfoCodex will find you all the documents in the other languages as well, without entering the translated search string. Examples: Patentsearch or finding similar documents across 5 different languages.
Check out the procedure of InfoCodex:
http://www.ywesee.com/pmwiki.php/Ywesee/InfoCodex
InfoCodex also just won the i-Expo price of Paris:
http://www.ywesee.com/uploads/Ywesee/archimag-e.p
Best wishes
Zeno Davatz
+41 43 540 05 50
Hey Sean This really makes sense here what you are saying. And it would not make such a big dent into Googles Business world either. It also does not tie down the google movement unnecessarily. It would make Google a lot more precise though. Nice advice, Google should hire you or pay you for that if they are smart. Best Zeno
1. Has anybody heard of YAML? That is an XML replacement too. 2. Giving descriptive names to documents is WIKI-Style and makes sense to me. This makes things more human readable and that is good.
I posted a news item some days ago about oddb.org (see also linuxmednews.org). The complete 'datastructure' of oddb.org is done with Madlaine - a prevayler solution as mnemonic. Yes it has sped up development, yes the search queries are delivered faster, yes we are very happy with this new technology. You can have a look at our source at download.ywesee.com/ruby/oddb.org. You can test online at http://www.oddb.org. We are using Madlaine also on other mission-critical projects and it also works great there.