You're doing an excellent job of profiling the political thinking of ca..01 of 1% of the green movement
Thank you! Perhaps my repeated use of the term "eco-whacko" was a dead giveaway?;-)
However, treating these stories as representative of the movement as a whole is simplistic
Treating these my posts as representative of my opinion of the "green" movement as a whole is simplistic, and an uncritical way to swallow the posts here at slashdot.
I have to say that environmentalism is not a very Leftist thing any more so much as it is a realistic evaluation
Spoken like a true believer. That which we ourselves categorically accept is always characterized (by us) as wholly rational. That it is still a Leftist pathology is evident from the fact that the environmentalists always resort to various forms of people control as the only possible means by which their goals can be achieved. Thus environmentalism is just the same old Leftism; it just has a new(er) excuse today for the abuses of liberty that it attempts to justify.
The message of those eco-whacko Leftists is: Minimize your footprint.
By cutting off your feet.
Reduce your energy consumption.
By not consuming any at all - unless you're an eco-whacko Leftist on the way to protest SUVs, in which case it's perfectly acceptable to fly a polluting jet airplane
Reduce your soil consumption.
I'm safe here; I don't eat dirt. However, the eco-whacko Left would prefer that I reduce it anyway by composting myself - as soon as possible
Reduce your area consumption.
By living in straw huts packed with 20 people
Be more efficient.
By vandalizing and destroying other people's goods (so that they must consume more resources in order to repair or replace them) and setting traps for lumberjacks (so that they "reduce their energy consumption").
Except for the fact that the eco-whacko Left doesn't want windmills (or anything else) "defiling" the "pristine" countryside, and they don't want dams filling the canyons, and they don't like nukes, either. You can't please these people except by dying.
Why, if we have millions of years' worth of plants as the source of our oil, and if we only consume a year's worth of plants for our cars each day, then we've got enough fossil fuels to last for centuries!
Let's pretend that we've got just 5 million years' worth of plants as the source for all the oil. That gives us 13,000+ years of oil for our cars. Even if we assume that all other uses of fossil fuels amount to 10 times as much use per year, that still gives us well over 1200 years worth of energy.
Maybe by then the eco-whacko Left will allow us to build nuclear power plants again. I know, I know. Call me a dreamer...
If you think that Democrats either don't or haven't committed election fraud, then you absolutely don't have it right. Think: Chicago Democrats. Think: LBJ's stuffed ballot boxes in Texas.
It's despicable no matter who does it, and the perpetrators - whether Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, or whatever - should be thrown in prison.
If *that* is what you think, then as a matter of fact you do have it right;-)
Dropping the laws would be nothing short of suicidal in terms of maintaining control over a fundamentally lawless population.
Here you suggest that people must be "controlled" - which implies that people are incapable of controlling themselves. Then, in the very next paragraph, you say:
Your freedom comes with responsibility.
This implies that people *are* capable of controlling themselves.
You can't have it both ways: people who exercise self-control do *not* need to be micro-managed by the government.
I disagree with your apparent belief that a repeal of the bulk of the laws on the books would lead inevitably to cultural suicide, because I disagree that people are "fundamentally lawless". If they were, then no amount of laws would be sufficient to control the people, because the people would simply ignore the laws.
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Thank you! Perhaps my repeated use of the term "eco-whacko" was a dead giveaway? ;-)
However, treating these stories as representative of the movement as a whole is simplistic
Treating these my posts as representative of my opinion of the "green" movement as a whole is simplistic, and an uncritical way to swallow the posts here at slashdot.
I have to say that environmentalism is not a very Leftist thing any more so much as it is a realistic evaluation
Spoken like a true believer. That which we ourselves categorically accept is always characterized (by us) as wholly rational. That it is still a Leftist pathology is evident from the fact that the environmentalists always resort to various forms of people control as the only possible means by which their goals can be achieved. Thus environmentalism is just the same old Leftism; it just has a new(er) excuse today for the abuses of liberty that it attempts to justify.
By cutting off your feet.
Reduce your energy consumption.
By not consuming any at all - unless you're an eco-whacko Leftist on the way to protest SUVs, in which case it's perfectly acceptable to fly a polluting jet airplane
Reduce your soil consumption.
I'm safe here; I don't eat dirt. However, the eco-whacko Left would prefer that I reduce it anyway by composting myself - as soon as possible
Reduce your area consumption.
By living in straw huts packed with 20 people
Be more efficient.
By vandalizing and destroying other people's goods (so that they must consume more resources in order to repair or replace them) and setting traps for lumberjacks (so that they "reduce their energy consumption").
Except for the fact that the eco-whacko Left doesn't want windmills (or anything else) "defiling" the "pristine" countryside, and they don't want dams filling the canyons, and they don't like nukes, either. You can't please these people except by dying.
Let's pretend that we've got just 5 million years' worth of plants as the source for all the oil. That gives us 13,000+ years of oil for our cars. Even if we assume that all other uses of fossil fuels amount to 10 times as much use per year, that still gives us well over 1200 years worth of energy.
Maybe by then the eco-whacko Left will allow us to build nuclear power plants again. I know, I know. Call me a dreamer...
If you think that Democrats either don't or haven't committed election fraud, then you absolutely don't have it right. Think: Chicago Democrats. Think: LBJ's stuffed ballot boxes in Texas.
It's despicable no matter who does it, and the perpetrators - whether Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, or whatever - should be thrown in prison.
If *that* is what you think, then as a matter of fact you do have it right ;-)
The vast majority of people do not ignore the laws. This is why it's silly to say that Americans are "fundamentally lawless".
Here you suggest that people must be "controlled" - which implies that people are incapable of controlling themselves. Then, in the very next paragraph, you say:
Your freedom comes with responsibility.
This implies that people *are* capable of controlling themselves.
You can't have it both ways: people who exercise self-control do *not* need to be micro-managed by the government.
I disagree with your apparent belief that a repeal of the bulk of the laws on the books would lead inevitably to cultural suicide, because I disagree that people are "fundamentally lawless". If they were, then no amount of laws would be sufficient to control the people, because the people would simply ignore the laws.