Apples culture is a play, and goes down according to a script written by a marketing guru. You can go on and on about what you believe HE thinks he's doing, but if you look at his policies and what he has done, jobs only vision is that of a dollar bill. He has a cute way of exorcising his greed, and its not quite perfect yet, but in its core, apple is probably the greediest computer company out there.
Could you define groundbreaking? I seem to be mising something.
Could you tell me whats ground breaking about organ bank parts stacked in an aquarim case with an apple logo slapped on it complete with to big price tag?
Must users may not want to put their hands in the system, but it doesn't leave many options for the growing mass of us who do.
In addition, supporing apple because they're not microsoft is like courting the lion because it's not the bear. If they're hardware prices had been reasonable oh so long ago, apple would be the $800 pound gorilla, not microsoft, and from the corporate yes corporate policies they have now, would be infinitaly worse to deal with.
The G4 might be really cool, but apple products have never even come close to living up to apple hype, which is at least as misleading as that of the "evil empire" of microsoft.
Don't fool yourselves guys. Apple has always been driven by greed, not creativity. Greed often leads to creativity, but that creativity rarely leads to something that is truly A Good Thing(tm). Greed is the driving force, primary goal, and consuming fire of the fruit company.
If you feel that you could say something that would cause to to be defamed, then do it anonymously and ignore it.
Either way however, if your take yourself so seriously that you think "you've got a right to compensation from someone" because of a slashdot post, then you should be moderated right off of the forum.
When ever you say something in a public forum you open yourself to all forms of ridicule and criticism, much of which might even be slanderous or "defamitory." By no doing so anonymously it's sort of implied that your taking that risk, and are willing to accept the consequences. Maybe somewhere rob should put that in real terms if people don't get it.
Hey, and that other guy over there running openBSD doesn't have a clue either. What about the BSDi guys? And (god forbid) mac os X which is supposed to be BSD based?
xBSD is no better off for this kinda stuff than linux is. freeBSD might haver better docs than netBSD, just like Caldera has better docs than slackware.
Those issues are not the ones that are important. Most things work on most linux distro's. its the how do you make it work on any distro (or even the distro of your choice) thats important, and even with the parenthetical piece there much of the information carries over.
Mac users who have interestes in darwin and mac os X are not the bread and butter of the apple universe.
Splitting themselves into two companies and opening competition by forcing software makers to lisence os goodies from the hardware company whould probably of made the physical platform far far more successfull.
Maybe the sofware companie would of died. woopie. Mac os X is just NeXTSTEP with a (IMHO UGLY)facelift. I'd rather have NeXT alive than Apple Software Co. Mac OS itself, well.. sucks, and even apple knows it.
In the mean time, they've taken a hurky jerky muddled buisness plan mixed up with software and hardware that haven't been significantly ahead in years (and have probably been behind for a couple now), significantly overpriced it (even now, though they're getting better), and decided that they invented sillicon and have sued everyone in sight while fiercely defending a niche market that noone can quite define with users more rabid than even the true linux shock troopers out there.
I love their hardware. I hate their prices. Their "buisness" is too stupid for comment.
I might kill him because he would be so insanely dangerous, but pity is an emotion that crops up long before hate to anyone with either 2 brain cells or a heart.
They're cool for desktop publishing, but they've long since lost any edge that they had in any of the standard graphics markets, and are (Despite they're current efforts) worthless for 3D.
The Mindcraft Results didn't really prove anything. (Not even a superior threading model.) except that a finely honed OS/hardware/app combo in an envirnment that favors it above all others can beat others that are neither honed nor in their forte environment. Everybody knows Arnold Schwartzanigger could of lifted more weight that bruce lee, but bruce would of kicked his ass.
The NT box had each interrupt from each of the 4 network adapters bound to a processor.
That makes the job of thread scheduler (for that benchmark anyway) significantly easier.
You can't make an argument for Henry Ford, or anyone else really using that logic.
Henry's creations where amalgamations of other peoples ideas sure with his own twist, but how about we give the guy who invented the internal combustion engine the award for maing something for henry ford to produce.
Why don't we just vote adam&eve or romulus and ramus or austrolophitacine or whatever man/woman of the universe for just plain started the whole mess.
But linus is on the list for the same reason that adof hiltler is there instead of whoever the original head of the nazi party was.
Hitler made things happen. He took a backward semi-broken politcal party, used it to take over a broken and indebted nation, and turned that into an earth shattering machine.
Technically Franko and Mousalini did it first. but who do we remember?
Raymond and Stallman may have been around first but they're projects did bring anywhere near the kind of strength and activisim to the community that linus' has had.
And linux, because of it's philosophy, not its technoligy, or its age, belongs there.
Culture?
Apples culture is a play, and goes down according to a script written by a marketing guru. You can go on and on about what you believe HE thinks he's doing, but if you look at his policies and what he has done, jobs only vision is that of a dollar bill. He has a cute way of exorcising his greed, and its not quite perfect yet, but in its core, apple is probably the greediest computer company out there.
The iMac was groundbreaking
Could you define groundbreaking?
I seem to be mising something.
Could you tell me whats ground breaking
about organ bank parts stacked in an aquarim
case with an apple logo slapped on it complete with to big price tag?
-T
Macs are toys.
Customization?
what, changing colors?
big deal.
The guts of the system are undocumented and locked up tight, and if you do figure something out, you get sued.
Must users may not want to put their hands in the system, but it doesn't leave many options for the growing mass of us who do.
In addition, supporing apple because they're not microsoft is like courting the lion because it's not the bear. If they're hardware prices had been reasonable oh so long ago, apple would be the $800 pound gorilla, not microsoft, and from the corporate yes corporate policies they have now, would be infinitaly worse to deal with.
The G4 might be really cool, but apple products have never even come close to living up to apple hype, which is at least as misleading as that of the "evil empire" of microsoft.
Don't fool yourselves guys. Apple has always been driven by greed, not creativity. Greed often leads to creativity, but that creativity rarely leads to something that is truly A Good Thing(tm). Greed is the driving force, primary goal, and consuming fire of the fruit company.
If you feel that you could say something that would cause to to be defamed, then do it anonymously and ignore it.
Either way however, if your take yourself so seriously that you think "you've got a right to compensation from someone" because of a slashdot post, then you should be moderated right off of the forum.
When ever you say something in a public forum you open yourself to all forms of ridicule and criticism, much of which might even be slanderous or "defamitory." By no doing so anonymously it's sort of implied that your taking that risk, and are willing to accept the consequences. Maybe somewhere rob should put that in real terms if people don't get it.
That's a really laughable comparison.
kinda like saying, my flags better than
your flag because that guy over there
is wearing green sunglasses.
blink.
gotta love non-sequitor flame-bait.
all i have to say is
ewwww
no, it's not a completely
different os.
Is based on BSD which is the common
denominator. xBSD might be (IYHO) might
be the best bsd, but bsd's just a really
fragmented free unix.
And this post isn't.
A juvenille post about juvenille postings.
Noone's forcing you to read anything.
Crawl back into your hole.
but i'm running netBSD, what good's your manual?
Hey, and that other guy over there running openBSD doesn't have a clue either. What about the BSDi guys? And (god forbid) mac os X which is supposed to be BSD based?
xBSD is no better off for this kinda stuff than linux is. freeBSD might haver better docs than netBSD, just like Caldera has better docs than slackware.
Those issues are not the ones that are important.
Most things work on most linux distro's. its the how do you make it work on any distro (or even the distro of your choice) thats important, and even with the parenthetical piece there much of the information carries over.
Mac users who have interestes in darwin and mac os X are not the bread and butter of the apple universe.
Splitting themselves into two companies and opening competition by forcing software makers to lisence os goodies from the hardware company whould probably of made the physical platform far far more successfull.
Maybe the sofware companie would of died.
woopie. Mac os X is just NeXTSTEP with a (IMHO UGLY)facelift. I'd rather have NeXT alive than Apple Software Co. Mac OS itself, well.. sucks, and even apple knows it.
In the mean time, they've taken a hurky jerky muddled buisness plan mixed up with software and hardware that haven't been significantly ahead in years (and have probably been behind for a couple now), significantly overpriced it (even now, though they're getting better), and decided that they invented sillicon and have sued everyone in sight while fiercely defending a niche market that noone can quite define with users more rabid than even the true linux shock troopers out there.
I love their hardware.
I hate their prices.
Their "buisness" is too stupid for comment.
Are you braindead?
I might kill him because
he would be so insanely dangerous,
but pity is an emotion that crops
up long before hate to anyone with
either 2 brain cells or a heart.
Yup, it will be absolutely useless to
the average mac user.
Apple ruined it's own buisness through
greed long long ago.
Killing the clones saved apples buiseness,
sorta, but they shoulda split into a hardware
and software company eons ago.
It's not the machine
thats bitty and crappy.
It's the os.
Do you think that you could possibly
remove your distribution war stupidity
from your your idiotic conjecture.
You've got the gimp
ac3d and the blender
to start with, and
the povray tools.
And Maya's already in
the process of being ported.
Don't have a caniption yet.
They're cool for desktop publishing,
but they've long since lost any edge
that they had in any of the standard
graphics markets, and are (Despite
they're current efforts) worthless
for 3D.
The Mindcraft Results didn't really prove anything. (Not even a superior threading model.)
except that a finely honed OS/hardware/app combo in an envirnment that favors it above all others can beat others that are neither honed nor in their forte environment. Everybody knows Arnold Schwartzanigger could of lifted more weight that bruce lee, but bruce would of kicked his ass.
The NT box had each interrupt from each
of the 4 network adapters bound to a processor.
That makes the job of thread scheduler (for
that benchmark anyway) significantly easier.
You can't make an argument for Henry Ford, or anyone else really using that logic.
Henry's creations where amalgamations of other peoples ideas sure with his own twist, but how about we give the guy who invented the internal combustion engine the award for maing something for henry ford to produce.
Why don't we just vote adam&eve or romulus and ramus or austrolophitacine or whatever man/woman of the universe for just plain started the whole mess.
Yah, there were.
But linus is on the list for the same reason
that adof hiltler is there instead of whoever
the original head of the nazi party was.
Hitler made things happen. He took a backward
semi-broken politcal party, used it to take over
a broken and indebted nation, and turned that
into an earth shattering machine.
Technically Franko and Mousalini did it first.
but who do we remember?
Raymond and Stallman may have been around first
but they're projects did bring anywhere near
the kind of strength and activisim to the
community that linus' has had.
And linux, because of it's philosophy, not its
technoligy, or its age, belongs there.
But an OS can't be person of the year.
why not Linus?