Yes, I agree that the bogus charges against him are a Bad Thing. But they have nothing to do with online harassment, i.e. the point of this article.
If Weev had sometime been hit by a drunk driver, would we derail the thread talking about how important the dangers of drunk driving are in society?
If Weev had sometime learned a foreign language, would we derail the thread talking about important and useful it is to learn a foreign language?
If Weev got sick from spoiled food at a restaurant, would we derail the thread talking about the failures of food inspection and how it affects us all?
...I suppose not. So why is it so worth derailing the thread to talk about how he was arrested for something which has nothing to do with the original article? It simply comes off as a way of belittling and minimizing online harassment. "Sure he did this evil shit, but look over here at this other unrelated incident: something bad happened to HIM, so that's more important!"
Marie-Louis O'Murphy was 14 when this nude portrait of her was painted by Francois Boucher in 1752. It seems pretty obviously erotic. (A nude portrait of her caused her to come to the king's attention, and he took her on as another of his lovers.)
I guess anyone in the UK who views this famous painting (which currently hangs in a German art gallery) and thus has the image in their browser cache might get in legal trouble.
That Gimp (and more and more other programs) require systemd (which is supposedly merely "an init system") is the really evil thing. Poettering & Red hat are explicitly trying to force all Linuxes to have systemd.
I don't trust Poettering & Co's track record, nor competence, nor intentions (e.g. seeing him use sleazy manipulative rhetoric in a conference video where he accused a systemd opponent of not caring about handicapped people), and I sure don't want their unnecessary huge mass of dubious code on my machine. (Though I'm sure the NSA will be happy for the increased opportunities of exploits in such a huge messy mass of code.) And even if this "init system" were somehow really necessary for Gnome, I don't use Gnome.
They have lied, e.g. claiming that systemd is just an init system, or that it is not a big monolithic chunk of code, yet it becomes more and more monolithic. E.g. I just watched a week or two ago as several libsystemd packages in debian became merged into a single package while one user was trying to create a stub for one of them to satisfy some needless systemd dependencies by some applications.
I am becoming increasingly convinced that Ignorant Guru is right, and Linux is being manipulated for corporate interests, not users' interests.
http://igurublog.wordpress.com...
If you're worried that your computer is unsafe and surreptitiously keylogging, then you shouldn't even read your email from that computer anyway, since your email account will typically give access to all that other stuff too.
Interesting; sounds like that was a different phenomenon if all list messages were being marked as spam, because all the other list members' emails come to my inbox fine. It's just one member's emails who always get flagged as spam. (And other list members report having the same problem with that one guy.) We hypothesize it might be due to his having a yahoo.com email address, but I dunno.
I (and most gmail users I know) almost never get spam in my gmail inbox. Dunno why your experience is so different.
The only complaint I have is one particular sender on on particular email list whose emails are consistently misclassed as spam. I always mark them as not spam, and have even sent them to google's spam team for analysis when offered that dialog, but gmail every time misclasses his emails as spam. That is annoying and weird, but it's the only problem I have with gmail spam filtering.
Why would you believe that all men are bad people?
Noting that a lot of women get harassed by stupid trolls who are men in no way implies that all men are that way. I've seen a LOT of comments about this subject, especially lately, and I don't recall anyone ever claiming all men are bad. I just see lots of anti-feminists CLAIMING that women think all men are bad.
This persistent meme that women talking about this issue are man-haters trying to build a matriarchy is just paranoid conspiracy theory, if not outright trolling.
Extreme harassment by sociopathic trolls and anonymous internet lynch mobs is also a big picture problem that's getting worse and worse. And it is the subject of the article, unlike the derailing subject of his trial for something unrelated to the article.
Sure, I know why companies want to control the use of language. But in the end, speakers, not corporate lawyers, determine language use. And most speakers don't really feel a strong obligation to protect the trademark of some multimillion dollar company. There aren't usually outraged comments when someone says kleenex or xerox or google or any of zillions of other trademarks "inappropriately", so why the outrage about using "lego" to refer to the brick instead of the company that makes the brick? It seems oddly inconsistent.
Sure, just like there are not 2 Fords in the parking lot, but 2 Ford automobiles, and not 3 Pepsis on the table, but 3 Pepsi drinks, and not 4 Dells in the marketing department, but 4 Dell computers.
Speakers, not corporate lawyers, determine language use, even if corporations wish it were otherwise.
American exceptionalism justifies murdering foreign people (some intentionally targetted, some as regretable collateral damage) in foreign countries at will with no due process, so hey, hacking into a server with no due process is small potatoes in comparison. And so the Overton window shifts further and further...
" If you don't like something stop being whiny luddite bitches and fix it."
Why in the world should people have to FIX something (e.g. Gnome or systemd) which they not only don't LIKE, but don't even WANT or USE on their computers? That makes no sense.
Do YOU make a habit of fixing stuff which you neither like nor want nor use?
Exactly the same here; I got dissatisfied with all the flashy bloat in Gnome years ago, I explored alternatives, and I found that LXDE did what I wanted just fine without installing tons of crap I never used and didn't want crufting up my system. Including systemd now.
The idea is cool, but how could one verify that all the delivered hardware actually conforms to the open source hardware designs?
I.e. in principle one can review the open source designs, looking for bugs and security flaws, but I'm not sure I grok how one can be sure that the physical hardware you receive - built by someone else - was actually produced from those designs, as opposed to (e.g.) having some hidden backdoor.
What am I missing?
Indeed, it seems a rather strained idea of "doing calculus".
It's seems like saying that when I pour one liquid into another, the liquids are "doing differential equations".
Or when an apple falls, it is "doing algebra".
And when the apple falls into a group of other apples, increasing their number, it is "doing addition".
"You must not live in the USA. Esperanto is a European phenomenon mostly."
The fact that more Europeans than Americans are interested in Esperanto doesn't imply that you can't find American Esperantists. I first learned Esperanto when I lived in Austin, Texas, and I easily found other Esperantists in my city and others elsewhere in the state.
"Whoopee. Hundreds of millions can speak German, French, Chinese, Japanese, Hindi, etc. (each)."
So what? I never said that more people speak Esperanto than German, French, Chinese, etc. You, on the other hand, said that more people speak Klingon than Esperanto, which is what I responded to, with information about the numbers of speakers of Esperanto and Klingon.
"I don't bother learning Esperanto because there's no one I can talk to with it;"
You haven't looked very hard then! I know plenty of Esperanto speakers.
"I'd probably have better success learning Klingon."
Oh when will this lame joke/urban legend die? In case you actually believe it: A few dozen people can converse fluently in Klingon. Hundreds of thousands of people can converse fluently in Esperanto.
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The empty board is the start state, and certainly a member of the set of Go positions, I suspect most Go players would say. Would you say that the start state of a Chess game is not a member of the set of Chess positions?
"The number of possible Go positions is 3**(19*19) - 1, by the way."
No, 3**361 is merely an easily seen upper bound on the number of possible board positions (by considering that each point could be empty, black, or white). But a huge number of them are not actual legal positions, because they have groups with no liberties. (Why did you subtract 1 in your formula, by the way? That makes no sense to me.) The actual number of possible positions is much messier to calculate.
Yes, cubic go has been thought of by many people many times over the years. E.g. at the European Go Congress in Austria this year, there were a couple of very fancy large rather quasi-Victorian brass looking sets specially built to play it. 7x7x7 is the usual proposed size since 343 is the closest cubic number to 361=19x19.
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For the record, I agree programming a computer to play go is hard, but the fact that Go Endgames are PSPACE-Hard and similar results don't necessarily mean that in Real Life there can't be found "good enough" heuristic solutions. These sort of computational complexity arguments can be used to prove that we can't solve the Traveling Salesman problem, for instance - in one sense, yes, Traveling Salesman is theoretically intractable, but in a practical sense, there are algorithms that usually give good enough answers. To be interesting and useful, a go program doesn't have to play perfectly; it just has to usually play better than (some desired percentage of) people. If it makes mistakes sometimes, and can't consistently beat the top players in the world, so what? That's true of the top players themselves as well.:)
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If Weev had sometime been hit by a drunk driver, would we derail the thread talking about how important the dangers of drunk driving are in society?
If Weev had sometime learned a foreign language, would we derail the thread talking about important and useful it is to learn a foreign language?
If Weev got sick from spoiled food at a restaurant, would we derail the thread talking about the failures of food inspection and how it affects us all?
...I suppose not. So why is it so worth derailing the thread to talk about how he was arrested for something which has nothing to do with the original article? It simply comes off as a way of belittling and minimizing online harassment. "Sure he did this evil shit, but look over here at this other unrelated incident: something bad happened to HIM, so that's more important!"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Marie-Louis O'Murphy was 14 when this nude portrait of her was painted by Francois Boucher in 1752. It seems pretty obviously erotic. (A nude portrait of her caused her to come to the king's attention, and he took her on as another of his lovers.)
I guess anyone in the UK who views this famous painting (which currently hangs in a German art gallery) and thus has the image in their browser cache might get in legal trouble.
The shellshock exploits I've read about are not related to system init.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shellshock_%28software_bug%29
Or are you suggesting that people with systemd don't even have bash on their systems?
Or are you arguing that because bash has (had) a serious bug, it means we shouldn't be concerned about other software like systemd having bugs?
I don't trust Poettering & Co's track record, nor competence, nor intentions (e.g. seeing him use sleazy manipulative rhetoric in a conference video where he accused a systemd opponent of not caring about handicapped people), and I sure don't want their unnecessary huge mass of dubious code on my machine. (Though I'm sure the NSA will be happy for the increased opportunities of exploits in such a huge messy mass of code.) And even if this "init system" were somehow really necessary for Gnome, I don't use Gnome.
They have lied, e.g. claiming that systemd is just an init system, or that it is not a big monolithic chunk of code, yet it becomes more and more monolithic. E.g. I just watched a week or two ago as several libsystemd packages in debian became merged into a single package while one user was trying to create a stub for one of them to satisfy some needless systemd dependencies by some applications.
I am becoming increasingly convinced that Ignorant Guru is right, and Linux is being manipulated for corporate interests, not users' interests. http://igurublog.wordpress.com...
If you're worried that your computer is unsafe and surreptitiously keylogging, then you shouldn't even read your email from that computer anyway, since your email account will typically give access to all that other stuff too.
Interesting; sounds like that was a different phenomenon if all list messages were being marked as spam, because all the other list members' emails come to my inbox fine. It's just one member's emails who always get flagged as spam. (And other list members report having the same problem with that one guy.) We hypothesize it might be due to his having a yahoo.com email address, but I dunno.
I (and most gmail users I know) almost never get spam in my gmail inbox. Dunno why your experience is so different. The only complaint I have is one particular sender on on particular email list whose emails are consistently misclassed as spam. I always mark them as not spam, and have even sent them to google's spam team for analysis when offered that dialog, but gmail every time misclasses his emails as spam. That is annoying and weird, but it's the only problem I have with gmail spam filtering.
Noting that a lot of women get harassed by stupid trolls who are men in no way implies that all men are that way. I've seen a LOT of comments about this subject, especially lately, and I don't recall anyone ever claiming all men are bad. I just see lots of anti-feminists CLAIMING that women think all men are bad.
This persistent meme that women talking about this issue are man-haters trying to build a matriarchy is just paranoid conspiracy theory, if not outright trolling.
Extreme harassment by sociopathic trolls and anonymous internet lynch mobs is also a big picture problem that's getting worse and worse. And it is the subject of the article, unlike the derailing subject of his trial for something unrelated to the article.
Sure, I know why companies want to control the use of language. But in the end, speakers, not corporate lawyers, determine language use. And most speakers don't really feel a strong obligation to protect the trademark of some multimillion dollar company. There aren't usually outraged comments when someone says kleenex or xerox or google or any of zillions of other trademarks "inappropriately", so why the outrage about using "lego" to refer to the brick instead of the company that makes the brick? It seems oddly inconsistent.
Lego are children's toys, leave your goddamn advertisements and product placements out of them.
Speakers, not corporate lawyers, determine language use, even if corporations wish it were otherwise.
Heh, fair point! :)
American exceptionalism justifies murdering foreign people (some intentionally targetted, some as regretable collateral damage) in foreign countries at will with no due process, so hey, hacking into a server with no due process is small potatoes in comparison. And so the Overton window shifts further and further...
Why in the world should people have to FIX something (e.g. Gnome or systemd) which they not only don't LIKE, but don't even WANT or USE on their computers? That makes no sense.
Do YOU make a habit of fixing stuff which you neither like nor want nor use?
Exactly the same here; I got dissatisfied with all the flashy bloat in Gnome years ago, I explored alternatives, and I found that LXDE did what I wanted just fine without installing tons of crap I never used and didn't want crufting up my system. Including systemd now.
The idea is cool, but how could one verify that all the delivered hardware actually conforms to the open source hardware designs? I.e. in principle one can review the open source designs, looking for bugs and security flaws, but I'm not sure I grok how one can be sure that the physical hardware you receive - built by someone else - was actually produced from those designs, as opposed to (e.g.) having some hidden backdoor. What am I missing?
Indeed, it seems a rather strained idea of "doing calculus". It's seems like saying that when I pour one liquid into another, the liquids are "doing differential equations". Or when an apple falls, it is "doing algebra". And when the apple falls into a group of other apples, increasing their number, it is "doing addition".
"You must not live in the USA. Esperanto is a European phenomenon mostly."
The fact that more Europeans than Americans are interested in Esperanto doesn't imply that you can't find American Esperantists. I first learned Esperanto when I lived in Austin, Texas, and I easily found other Esperantists in my city and others elsewhere in the state.
"Whoopee. Hundreds of millions can speak German, French, Chinese, Japanese, Hindi, etc. (each)."
So what? I never said that more people speak Esperanto than German, French, Chinese, etc. You, on the other hand, said that more people speak Klingon than Esperanto, which is what I responded to, with information about the numbers of speakers of Esperanto and Klingon.
"I don't bother learning Esperanto because there's no one I can talk to with it;"
You haven't looked very hard then! I know plenty of Esperanto speakers.
"I'd probably have better success learning Klingon."
Oh when will this lame joke/urban legend die? In case you actually believe it: A few dozen people can converse fluently in Klingon. Hundreds of thousands of people can converse fluently in Esperanto.
The empty board is the start state, and certainly a member of the set of Go positions, I suspect most Go players would say. Would you say that the start state of a Chess game is not a member of the set of Chess positions?
"The number of possible Go positions is 3**(19*19) - 1, by the way." No, 3**361 is merely an easily seen upper bound on the number of possible board positions (by considering that each point could be empty, black, or white). But a huge number of them are not actual legal positions, because they have groups with no liberties. (Why did you subtract 1 in your formula, by the way? That makes no sense to me.) The actual number of possible positions is much messier to calculate.
Yes, cubic go has been thought of by many people many times over the years. E.g. at the European Go Congress in Austria this year, there were a couple of very fancy large rather quasi-Victorian brass looking sets specially built to play it. 7x7x7 is the usual proposed size since 343 is the closest cubic number to 361=19x19.
For the record, I agree programming a computer to play go is hard, but the fact that Go Endgames are PSPACE-Hard and similar results don't necessarily mean that in Real Life there can't be found "good enough" heuristic solutions. These sort of computational complexity arguments can be used to prove that we can't solve the Traveling Salesman problem, for instance - in one sense, yes, Traveling Salesman is theoretically intractable, but in a practical sense, there are algorithms that usually give good enough answers. To be interesting and useful, a go program doesn't have to play perfectly; it just has to usually play better than (some desired percentage of) people. If it makes mistakes sometimes, and can't consistently beat the top players in the world, so what? That's true of the top players themselves as well. :)
From a recent discussion on how to learn Latin by self-study: http://community.livejournal.com/latin/326666.html