Guess what... they know this, marketting departments the world over have spent millions in research. You (and all those who claim to be advertisment adverse) are such a small demographic that they don't care... and even if they did, the truth is most people who are advertistment adverse simple disregard ads, they don't actually write the company off.
So in other words, no harm done if you don't click on the ad.
One thing we all seem to forget, ads are out there because they make people money, simple as that. Now, I'm all for the arguments against deceptive advertising (i.e. looks like an OS or anti-virus warning), but really, you say right in your message...
I will NEVER click an ad
so then, why should they bother catering to you in anyway?
If you consider most modem users to be on a 28.8 connection...
50KB download times in seconds
28.8kbps: 13.3
56kbps: 7.1
728kbps (common dsl):.6
5mbps (fastest cable in my area):.08
Ok... I just don't wanna work, ok? Enjoy the numbers.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, I didn't RTFA... but isn't this a system which you sign up for? So if you want to include google text ads, then you put the appropriate HTML on your page and they figure out which ads will get the most click-thrus, and if you want to included google image ads, you put that HTML on your page and then they figure it out.
Lots of discussion here about the front page of google and how this is going to change it drastically, but I don't see anything in the description which implies google putting anything anywhere other than on sites which request it.
I couldn't agree more. We've become so used to thinking Internet ad's == bad. But really, for me that's because of a handful of things...
1) Intrusive ads (pop up/unders) 2) Ads which take longer to download than the content 3) Mis-leading ads 4) Completely random ads.
Personally I've never cared or complained about the Slashdot banner ads, or a myriad of other well executed ads. But I won't even consider browsing to MSN.com anymore because of the intrusiveness... especially the ads they try to disguise as articles.
Personally, I like to buy things, I don't always know everything I want to buy upfront, advertising targetted to my demographic is not something I see any reason to shun... especially seeing as it's revenue is what allows for alot of content.
I'm sure this will be said a million times during this thread, but this has nothing to do with multiple heads... it has to do with multiple cards serving 1 head.
I am... I drive a 91 Mercedes 560 SEL, and I live in the city now... that's a big car with a 5.6liter V8 which won't run on anything less than premium gas.
Given my old driving patterns (namely 2 people using the car for alot of 2-3 mile drives) with these new prices, I was spending around a hundred dollars a week on gas. (12 mpg in the city you see, much much better on the highway) So I take more public transportation, walk more, am considering changing cars, etc. etc. Problem is, I also do alot of distance driving, and I really don't want a different car for those 1000 mile hauls, the thing is so damn comfortable.
Yes, sure, I'll use a bike for a fourty mile northern city suburban commute... no problem! Or, I'll ride my bike wearing a suit in a snowstorm on my way to a sales meeting.
To be fair, this isn't my situation, I have a 2 block walk... but as nice as bikes are, they're not a practical replacement for a car for most people. They're a wonderful supplement for most of us, and a replacement for about 3 of us.
As far as the hybrid being the dumbest thing ever because it's more expensive... this is the problem with being ecologically friendly in general, it costs more to do so... if you're buying a hybrid to save money, you're either a moron, or you drive hundreds of highway miles a day. If you're buying it to help the environment, kudos to you... at least based on the original claims.
To me that's pretty much the whole point of this article... the one reason there was to buy a hybrid has now gone out the window.
I think it's more likely welcome Indiana. Companies which can gain from outsourcing aren't really going to change for this. But new startups with 1-50 employees likely are... given that (by my knowledged at least) most of the software development in this state is done in Chicago & the Champaign-Urbana area... that puts those companies between 15-60 minutes of the Indiana border... almost makes more sense to just lengthen everyone's commute.
Then again, I'm sensing a typical slashdot response of... THIS IS AWFUL, HOW COULD THEY!... without any real knowledge of the situation, myself included. Do other states do this, and if so what percent. The headline is a bit misleading, he's not really talking about some special tax, he's basically saying software falls into a grey area because it's often licensed and leased rather than sold.
Given that I work for a company which leases software, I'm very curious to see where this goes.
A Pentium-M what? They range from the ultra-low power 1GhZ (or do they go all the way down to 800MhZ?) and up to 1.7GhZ (before today anyway).
Personally, I run a 1.6 Pentium-M with 768Megs of RAM and it's perfectly fine running XP and Linux with KDE 3.2 (2.4 Kernel). The only downside I have is the harddrive is kind of slow, so file access is a bit of a bear
Personally, I think the grandparent hits it dead on, it's important for any computer with a modern OS to have sufficient RAM, it's doubly important for us laptop users because we have slow harddrives for the most part.
No, I'm not, but 99% of the population shouldn't be mucking in a desktop either. My point is, plenty of us can.
The card issue is a seperate one... soldering was required in my case for the power supply, fix it or trash it, cause if I can't recharge the battery it gets useless quickly. Many new laptops however come with a card which is plugged in containing the bluetooth or 802.11 cards. Replacing one is now more difficult than a RAM upgrade, with the noteable exception that the cards are sometimes hidden under keyboards and palmrests.
THERE IS NOT ONE PART ON MOST LAPTOP MOTHERBOARDS YOU THE USER COULD FIX ANYWAY!
BS... there are many parts inside of laptops that a certain subset of users can fix without difficulty. I definitely don't do it regularly, but I've been inside my laptop to resolder broken points. The only difficulty I had was keeping track of all the screws.
Additionally with more and more laptops coming with built in wireless cards, there's more reason for an individual to be inside their laptop.
Yes. It was an office with a hodgepodge of computers. They had a strong desire to be completely license compliant in case of an audit. They had little to no paperwork around for many of the machines. Someone somewhere had installed office on all of them... everyone was convinced it was all legal, but no one had the proof, rather than run any risks or spend the money for 20 copies of office when their most complex task was a mail merge... we switched them over to OOo.
But cars aren't dynamite. I could be mistaken, but I'm not aware of any laws which forbid motor vehicles from being driven on an owner's private property... hence the reason you don't get pulled over for not wearing a seatbelt in a parking lot, you get it as soon as you hit the street. But, as you say, it's a state issue, so I suppose it's possible that some state somewhere says as much.
I don't get it, why is this a great argument? I don't think the problem has anything to do with having access to a licenses DVD player, I think the great question was why can't I roll my own? The only response Valenti gave was, because you're one of a few, we can't make policy decisions based on a few...
Why the hell not? I mean ok, I'll agree to an extent, we can't make policy decisions that harm many to help a few... but what's being talked about here is a policy that, for no good reason, harms these few as a side-effect. As Valenti basically says, no one gives a damn about the few thousand people who want to do it this way... so put the provisions in the law to allow it.
But the fact is, they can't actually target the real criminals, so instead, they go after law abiding individuals in an attempt to take the tools away from the criminals.
Both statements are true... PEAR has made some amazing strides in the last year or so. It is still no comparison to the massive body of code that CPAN provides.... yet.
Perhaps I'm not reading the graphs right, but more requests per second is better correct?
If so, PHP beats Perl on every graph except one, where they tie... and it has better memory utilization too... or am I way off on how I'm reading these?
Either way, they're both pretty close on that specific benchmark, I don't think I'd consider it proof of much of anything.
Playing OGG's will kill the battery faster in just about any player as the calculations are more intense... check out the iRiver battery run comparisons for real world evidence of the fact.
On the iHP's the battery life goes from around 14 hours to 12.
Whitelists suck for any business who is trying to take orders or allow customers to contact them. It's not such a great idea to just ignore emails from users who wants to do legit business with you, in most cases it's worth paying some highschool student to just delete all your spam for you instead.
And before anyone says, then email them back with a request for some sort of validation... the general idea is not to be a PITA to your customers.
Have you looked into an IBM T41... If you use the big battery you'll get significantly more than 5 hrs battery time, it ways just under five pounds... it's specs are what I'd consider very nice, don't know if they'll meet your requirements but I'm guessing they will, especially if you have serious cash and get a T41p (128 Meg video card, 1.7GhZ Pentium M, 80 Gig HD and so on)
I have a more standard T41, 32 Megs video, smaller hard drive and the like... making it cost only a little more than a Dell 600m.
Where's Debian-Laptop! Where's Linux-Laptop-Made-Really-Easy for that matter. I want it, I love it... I can't stand my poor battery life and constantly breaking XServer and no wireless.
I know I know, it's my fault for not being good enough with linux, but I'm learning, and the laptop angle is continually eating my far to few hours and the like.
Waiting for SUSE 9.1, hoping that will save me some effort as I can go straight to the 2.6 Kernel and not have to worry about upgrading alot of the things that keep setting me back.
of course, there are people who do not have corporate filter and not even a personal one -> it's their problem
This is great for the individual user. But for the small business individual it's not an option. For every false positive I could be losing a potential sale, so what, too bad for me? So, I should consider Bayesian filtering good enough, even though it lets a few through, and catches a few it shouldn't? Spam's a problem, some of us deal with it daily, some of us once and awhile, and some of us never.... but so many messages like yours, I have no problem with it, therefore you're all a bunch of whiny noobies. Ignorant, elitist, incorrect approach.
And if all of that means nothing to you, what about the enormous amounts of bandwidth being sucked down by spam? Realize it or not, but there's a chance it's affecting you.
Slashdot Mirror
Guess what... they know this, marketting departments the world over have spent millions in research. You (and all those who claim to be advertisment adverse) are such a small demographic that they don't care... and even if they did, the truth is most people who are advertistment adverse simple disregard ads, they don't actually write the company off.
So in other words, no harm done if you don't click on the ad.
One thing we all seem to forget, ads are out there because they make people money, simple as that. Now, I'm all for the arguments against deceptive advertising (i.e. looks like an OS or anti-virus warning), but really, you say right in your message...
I will NEVER click an ad
so then, why should they bother catering to you in anyway?
If you consider most modem users to be on a 28.8 connection... 50KB download times in seconds 28.8kbps: 13.3 56kbps: 7.1 728kbps (common dsl): .6
5mbps (fastest cable in my area): .08
Ok... I just don't wanna work, ok? Enjoy the numbers.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, I didn't RTFA... but isn't this a system which you sign up for? So if you want to include google text ads, then you put the appropriate HTML on your page and they figure out which ads will get the most click-thrus, and if you want to included google image ads, you put that HTML on your page and then they figure it out.
Lots of discussion here about the front page of google and how this is going to change it drastically, but I don't see anything in the description which implies google putting anything anywhere other than on sites which request it.
I couldn't agree more. We've become so used to thinking Internet ad's == bad. But really, for me that's because of a handful of things...
... especially the ads they try to disguise as articles.
1) Intrusive ads (pop up/unders)
2) Ads which take longer to download than the content
3) Mis-leading ads
4) Completely random ads.
Personally I've never cared or complained about the Slashdot banner ads, or a myriad of other well executed ads. But I won't even consider browsing to MSN.com anymore because of the intrusiveness
Personally, I like to buy things, I don't always know everything I want to buy upfront, advertising targetted to my demographic is not something I see any reason to shun... especially seeing as it's revenue is what allows for alot of content.
I'm sure this will be said a million times during this thread, but this has nothing to do with multiple heads... it has to do with multiple cards serving 1 head.
So in short, it's the definition of pollution that's been screwing up so many slashdotter's today. (myself included)
Not that you used it consistently... but your point is taken, thanks for the explanation.
I am... I drive a 91 Mercedes 560 SEL, and I live in the city now... that's a big car with a 5.6liter V8 which won't run on anything less than premium gas. Given my old driving patterns (namely 2 people using the car for alot of 2-3 mile drives) with these new prices, I was spending around a hundred dollars a week on gas. (12 mpg in the city you see, much much better on the highway) So I take more public transportation, walk more, am considering changing cars, etc. etc. Problem is, I also do alot of distance driving, and I really don't want a different car for those 1000 mile hauls, the thing is so damn comfortable.
Yes, sure, I'll use a bike for a fourty mile northern city suburban commute... no problem! Or, I'll ride my bike wearing a suit in a snowstorm on my way to a sales meeting.
To be fair, this isn't my situation, I have a 2 block walk... but as nice as bikes are, they're not a practical replacement for a car for most people. They're a wonderful supplement for most of us, and a replacement for about 3 of us.
As far as the hybrid being the dumbest thing ever because it's more expensive... this is the problem with being ecologically friendly in general, it costs more to do so... if you're buying a hybrid to save money, you're either a moron, or you drive hundreds of highway miles a day. If you're buying it to help the environment, kudos to you... at least based on the original claims.
To me that's pretty much the whole point of this article... the one reason there was to buy a hybrid has now gone out the window.
I think it's more likely welcome Indiana. Companies which can gain from outsourcing aren't really going to change for this. But new startups with 1-50 employees likely are... given that (by my knowledged at least) most of the software development in this state is done in Chicago & the Champaign-Urbana area... that puts those companies between 15-60 minutes of the Indiana border... almost makes more sense to just lengthen everyone's commute.
Then again, I'm sensing a typical slashdot response of... THIS IS AWFUL, HOW COULD THEY!... without any real knowledge of the situation, myself included. Do other states do this, and if so what percent. The headline is a bit misleading, he's not really talking about some special tax, he's basically saying software falls into a grey area because it's often licensed and leased rather than sold.
Given that I work for a company which leases software, I'm very curious to see where this goes.
A Pentium-M what? They range from the ultra-low power 1GhZ (or do they go all the way down to 800MhZ?) and up to 1.7GhZ (before today anyway).
Personally, I run a 1.6 Pentium-M with 768Megs of RAM and it's perfectly fine running XP and Linux with KDE 3.2 (2.4 Kernel). The only downside I have is the harddrive is kind of slow, so file access is a bit of a bear
Personally, I think the grandparent hits it dead on, it's important for any computer with a modern OS to have sufficient RAM, it's doubly important for us laptop users because we have slow harddrives for the most part.
No, I'm not, but 99% of the population shouldn't be mucking in a desktop either. My point is, plenty of us can.
The card issue is a seperate one... soldering was required in my case for the power supply, fix it or trash it, cause if I can't recharge the battery it gets useless quickly. Many new laptops however come with a card which is plugged in containing the bluetooth or 802.11 cards. Replacing one is now more difficult than a RAM upgrade, with the noteable exception that the cards are sometimes hidden under keyboards and palmrests.
THERE IS NOT ONE PART ON MOST LAPTOP MOTHERBOARDS YOU THE USER COULD FIX ANYWAY!
BS... there are many parts inside of laptops that a certain subset of users can fix without difficulty. I definitely don't do it regularly, but I've been inside my laptop to resolder broken points. The only difficulty I had was keeping track of all the screws.
Additionally with more and more laptops coming with built in wireless cards, there's more reason for an individual to be inside their laptop.
Yes. It was an office with a hodgepodge of computers. They had a strong desire to be completely license compliant in case of an audit. They had little to no paperwork around for many of the machines. Someone somewhere had installed office on all of them... everyone was convinced it was all legal, but no one had the proof, rather than run any risks or spend the money for 20 copies of office when their most complex task was a mail merge... we switched them over to OOo.
All humor noted... the UofC scavenger hunt has regularly included a road trip team as part of every group. So, nothing knew here.
But cars aren't dynamite. I could be mistaken, but I'm not aware of any laws which forbid motor vehicles from being driven on an owner's private property... hence the reason you don't get pulled over for not wearing a seatbelt in a parking lot, you get it as soon as you hit the street. But, as you say, it's a state issue, so I suppose it's possible that some state somewhere says as much.
I don't get it, why is this a great argument? I don't think the problem has anything to do with having access to a licenses DVD player, I think the great question was why can't I roll my own? The only response Valenti gave was, because you're one of a few, we can't make policy decisions based on a few...
Why the hell not? I mean ok, I'll agree to an extent, we can't make policy decisions that harm many to help a few... but what's being talked about here is a policy that, for no good reason, harms these few as a side-effect. As Valenti basically says, no one gives a damn about the few thousand people who want to do it this way... so put the provisions in the law to allow it.
But the fact is, they can't actually target the real criminals, so instead, they go after law abiding individuals in an attempt to take the tools away from the criminals.
Bad comparison with the car... you need to have it licensed to drive on the street.
You can feel free to drive that home built car all over your private property as much as you like.
The 412 yes? 4 for the number of supercharges and 12 for the number of cylinders...
Google Search
Both statements are true... PEAR has made some amazing strides in the last year or so. It is still no comparison to the massive body of code that CPAN provides.... yet.
Perhaps I'm not reading the graphs right, but more requests per second is better correct?
If so, PHP beats Perl on every graph except one, where they tie... and it has better memory utilization too... or am I way off on how I'm reading these?
Either way, they're both pretty close on that specific benchmark, I don't think I'd consider it proof of much of anything.
Playing OGG's will kill the battery faster in just about any player as the calculations are more intense... check out the iRiver battery run comparisons for real world evidence of the fact.
On the iHP's the battery life goes from around 14 hours to 12.
Whitelists suck for any business who is trying to take orders or allow customers to contact them. It's not such a great idea to just ignore emails from users who wants to do legit business with you, in most cases it's worth paying some highschool student to just delete all your spam for you instead.
And before anyone says, then email them back with a request for some sort of validation... the general idea is not to be a PITA to your customers.
Have you looked into an IBM T41... If you use the big battery you'll get significantly more than 5 hrs battery time, it ways just under five pounds... it's specs are what I'd consider very nice, don't know if they'll meet your requirements but I'm guessing they will, especially if you have serious cash and get a T41p (128 Meg video card, 1.7GhZ Pentium M, 80 Gig HD and so on)
I have a more standard T41, 32 Megs video, smaller hard drive and the like... making it cost only a little more than a Dell 600m.
Where's Debian-Laptop! Where's Linux-Laptop-Made-Really-Easy for that matter. I want it, I love it... I can't stand my poor battery life and constantly breaking XServer and no wireless.
I know I know, it's my fault for not being good enough with linux, but I'm learning, and the laptop angle is continually eating my far to few hours and the like.
Waiting for SUSE 9.1, hoping that will save me some effort as I can go straight to the 2.6 Kernel and not have to worry about upgrading alot of the things that keep setting me back.
of course, there are people who do not have corporate filter and not even a personal one -> it's their problem
This is great for the individual user. But for the small business individual it's not an option. For every false positive I could be losing a potential sale, so what, too bad for me? So, I should consider Bayesian filtering good enough, even though it lets a few through, and catches a few it shouldn't? Spam's a problem, some of us deal with it daily, some of us once and awhile, and some of us never.... but so many messages like yours, I have no problem with it, therefore you're all a bunch of whiny noobies. Ignorant, elitist, incorrect approach.
And if all of that means nothing to you, what about the enormous amounts of bandwidth being sucked down by spam? Realize it or not, but there's a chance it's affecting you.
Bah, I feel trolled, good night.