A dual chip system would certainly be good for most "desktop users" who run one application at a time. These users tend to also run operating systems which use cooperative multitasking at some level or another. With two processors, you can have one running their copy of Word, and the other running the base OS.
I know a lot of people probably have an MP3 player and other applications in their system tray. Maybe they're "not on the screen," but they're still competing for resources. --
"Ultimate Chaos is hosting the Ultimate AOL CD Invention contest here (grand prize is an IDE RAID controller!)"
Wow! I'm so glad they're giving out such an apropos prize for the competition. I mean, with IDE RAID, I can finally get the data mirroring capabilties of SCSI.. without the ability to have more than two devices per channel, the speed, nor the reliability. Now I can use those amazingly reliable Maxtor harddrives to make two of their 40gb drives into one, big 80gb drive!
Kinda like how AOL gives you connections to other people, without all that Internet stuff you'll never use.
Thank you, Ultimate Chaos!
(PS: irony is a key factor in this post. Everyone should get a certain amount of it in their daily diet.) --
I don't know about you, but I like to be paid only so I can afford to live in society and retire someday. Programming is something I'd do if I wasn't paid for it. The only problem then is how to pay rent, food, clothing, etc. --
What's wrong with MySQL? We've never had it crash as a result of internal problems in MySQL. The one time it did crash, was because rusty's code couldn't handle the load and apache/mod_perl started going wonky in how it spoke to MySQL (back in July). But Scoop has improve, and the MySQL we are using is a few versions past what was installed there.
Really, 3.23.x is stable in its latest builds:-P --
As the 'security guy' for my home, Kuro5hin.org, and other firewalls I've setup for people I know, I can tell you that:
"after all, a bunch of them are probably not even very much up-to-date and it takes a lots of time and experience to secure properly a Linux server. "
Is wrong! It's very simple: you need three things to lock down a box from remote root: nmap, lsof, and kill. Find what's open (nmap scan TCP), find out what 'owns' the port (lsof), and kill it. Then set your system to not run it. The RPC services should be turned off without even bothering to check if they're running -- every distro has them one by default (why!?). ps -ax|grep rpc.. kill. Then go and chmod -x all those binaries. No remote root. Simple, effective. You could probably have perl scripts do it:-)
Otherwise, it's just watch bugtraq, watch your box, and be suspicous. Oh, and don't run Washington University code;-) --
If you live in a city where the police are corrupt, but lie to everyone that they aren't.. a city which also has a mafia which does not lie about what it does.. which would you have a clearer conscience supporting?
It's a Kobayashi Maru situation. You can't win. But this way, I know my money is not going to the bigger, less obvious criminals. If I don't support them, then I'm at least doing more than 99% of the people. --
Erh, how are 'The Sims' like a MUD? In a MUD, you interact with other people. In 'The Sims,' you just interact with your simulated people. If we ever had a large online world of it, chances are you'd only through a few layers of simulated people be able to communicate.
That's not a MUD at all because you don't directly control your avatar. --
Today I had to flash the firmware on a Pioneer drive so I could watch a DVD at a friend's place (he came back from China with X-Men on DVD, and I wanted to see it. Based on the quality and such, I'm assuming the MPAA didn't see any money from it, so my concience is clear).
I'm sorry that Fujitsu had to do this. Now I either have to stop supporting them (probably what I'll do), or deal with having to work around their silly artificial limitations on my usage of a device (like I did with the region coding). Hopefully they'll learn their lesson and end this madness. Either that, or I buy more Seagate drives:-) --
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Maybe I'm not the one to speak for Kuro5hin, being second in command.
But.. what?!
VA Linux gave us a server. If we hadn't been given the server, we'd have had to frickin' wait for about 10 years before banner ads paid for something more powerful than our old PPro! There's no control there, just a donation.
Oh well.. your comment is a good laugh. Hopefully someone will properly rate it as funny:-) --
And I suppose classical music is crap because it was written by poor ol' Bach, Bethoven, and the other great support-contract musicians of the middle-ages rather than after they signed rights to some big record giant?
You used to get it, man! Then k5 went down, and you got a job. And that haircut (it's so evil). And you stopped smoking pot and doing the heroin. You've changed, man!
I don't even know who you are anymore. I'm porting Scoop to PHP. You're dead to me now. --
You may be asking yourself, "why is this frontpage news?"
I think I'm to blame..
<rusty> maybe it was cause you practially begged for it;-)
<rusty> "Heck,
<rusty> it'd be nifty if others
gave us coverage;)"
I meant that it'd be nice if/. gave a holler when we were up for business (hopefully soon), not about some small update written in the wee hours in the morning:) --
Midnight Commander has in it a nice user-space VFS layer (which is set to become the Gnome VFS layer). You just hit enter on a tgz or zip file, and you 'view' it much like RAR did in DOS years ago.
Another cool thing is you can also have ftpfs, undelfs, and other interesting file systems through this MC VFS. The power is really apprent when you need a single file from a archive on an FTP site. Just connect to the FTP, browse to the dir, hit enter on the archive, browse to the file, and hit F5 to copy to the other pane (which has the proper CWD:)). Then just exit. Very clean and fast. --
I have a Linux Developer's Resource CD-ROM in my hand. It has Slackware 2.3 with ELF beta. It also has Red Hat Mother's Day release +0.1. It's dated August 1995, and also has things like tsx-11.mit.edu, sunsite.unc.edu, Kernels 1.2.13 and 1.3.15, XFree86 3.1.2, Japanese Linux stuff, and Doom:-)
From this, one could assume that Slackware was further ahead of RH on the great "ELF changeover," as RH seems to have been pre-1.0 back then. Any other Linux History majors care to clear this up? --
The agreement basically says:
1) You agree that by agreeing, you are agreeing.
And by agreeing, you are bound by this contract.
2) We host the code, we don't give you dialup/WAN access.
3) Give us your real name. Mike Hunt is not a valid name.
4) You're responsible for your content. If you're going to host code, it has to be open source (as defined by OSI guidlines) as that's the focus of our site.
5) Don't resell this service.
6) We reserve the right to limit the service if need be (i.e.: bandwidth cap, file sizes cap).
7) Violation of our TOS, abuse of the site, a request for removal, and court order are valid reasons for removing a hosted site.
8) This is the web, we have links. If you link to DeCSS, we're not responsible
9) We're not liable for what we can't control.
10) Our trademarks are ours, and your are yours
11) Ditto for copyrights. Tell us if people violate this and #10.
12) This contract is the only thing you have to sign for us (sourceforge admins). Nothing more is required for hosting, etc.
13) Violations of this should be reported.
Hardly the totalitarian dictatorship conspiracy by ESR, RMS, VA, etc.. In fact, grepping for "sell," the only occurance of it is in point #5 about not reselling service!
If you're so afraid of people selling code you've worked on, don't make it opensource!
If you're like me and think that cat/etc/sendmail.cf | perl would produce the code to Netscape v4, you can look into a great alternative called postfix.
Very nice.. Perl compatible regular expressions, SQL, and human-readable config files. It also lends itself to chrooting, has never had a known security problem, outperforms sendmail, etc.
But why doesn't it shut off when you have your security level set as high as it can be? Why didn't they place the controls for such a device in a more obvious location? Does "user data persistence" even give you a clue as to what it's actually doing?
Deleting all cookies, emptying the cache and removing everything from the Temporary Internet Files folder does not make a difference. Hmmm, eh? Why go to the trouble of making it so hard to find this, even for people who know where to look?
There's not even an option for you to be warned when servers set data...
Most average windows users don't even know of that final tab to the IE config which has a list of random options in random order (how helpful of the programmers).
I, for one, am glad I don't use IE at all on my workstation [dual boot] (revenge of mozilla is your friend:)). --
Most cases today are designed such that all ports are in the back. With the older AT motherboard layout, you could have long internal cables connecting the appropriate motherboard connector to a front panel one, but the ATX motherboards have the ports rather firmly attached at the rear.
A possible solution is to develop a generic case that has front plate mounts, and hope it is adopted as a standard. Then people can have a comm port, USB connector, and firewire port on the front as standard (as well as add-in connectors for audio jacks and the like).
However, until a standard appears, anything possible will likely be a hack that won't work the same on similar boxes. --
I see you've tried 2.4.. on what hardware setup? 2.4.0-test6 on my K6-III 400 w/ 128 mb of ram produces a very noticeably different behaviour under load (as compared to 2.2.16 and 2.2.17).
For me, the difference was that make -j 27 (which help get a ludicrous load) didn't destroy interactiveness. I was able to type, etc, as if nothing else was happening on the system. This partially has to do with the atomic timeslice going from 200ms to 50ms, and partially from the general updates to 2.4. If you've not tried -test6, I suggest you do:) --
Step 1: make sure that the system's locale related stuff is owned by a secure account and permissioned accordingly so that others can't modify it.
Step 2: Ensure any setuid and setgid programs ignore user specified or non-system locales.
This way, the user can affect only their own account. They cannot give their specially made locales to setuid and setgid programs, and the setuid and setgid programs can still benefit from the system (presumed secure) locales.
It's no different from having properly permissioned/etc directory, with programs which can read a config from/etc and a user specific location. --
BUT: somehow, you say that the expense of producing copies of an artist's work without permission is OK as long as you pay for it?
I think this logic train derailed somewhere near the love canal....
Things that are OK: protesting unfair price gouging, protesting unfair fair-use removal (like thisguilty until proven innocent tax).
Things that are not OK: randoming warezing and copying anything you bloody well feel like just because you can. If everyone did things because they could, the GPL and the like wouldn't be enforcable. That's Bad.
In conclusion: how did "I paid for a burner so I can warez"get to +4?!
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A dual chip system would certainly be good for most "desktop users" who run one application at a time. These users tend to also run operating systems which use cooperative multitasking at some level or another. With two processors, you can have one running their copy of Word, and the other running the base OS.
I know a lot of people probably have an MP3 player and other applications in their system tray. Maybe they're "not on the screen," but they're still competing for resources.
--
"Ultimate Chaos is hosting the Ultimate AOL CD Invention contest here (grand prize is an IDE RAID controller!)"
Wow! I'm so glad they're giving out such an apropos prize for the competition. I mean, with IDE RAID, I can finally get the data mirroring capabilties of SCSI.. without the ability to have more than two devices per channel, the speed, nor the reliability. Now I can use those amazingly reliable Maxtor harddrives to make two of their 40gb drives into one, big 80gb drive!
Kinda like how AOL gives you connections to other people, without all that Internet stuff you'll never use.
Thank you, Ultimate Chaos!
(PS: irony is a key factor in this post. Everyone should get a certain amount of it in their daily diet.)
--
If you bother to scan the kernel archives, you'll see a lot of stuff from @yggdrasil.com.
So, no, they've not been completely in limbo.
--
I don't know about you, but I like to be paid only so I can afford to live in society and retire someday. Programming is something I'd do if I wasn't paid for it. The only problem then is how to pay rent, food, clothing, etc.
--
What's wrong with MySQL? We've never had it crash as a result of internal problems in MySQL. The one time it did crash, was because rusty's code couldn't handle the load and apache/mod_perl started going wonky in how it spoke to MySQL (back in July). But Scoop has improve, and the MySQL we are using is a few versions past what was installed there.
:-P
Really, 3.23.x is stable in its latest builds
--
heh, well.. it was understable :) The load spiked to 17 almost as it clicked over, I thought it was Hemos' doing..
:)
As is, we've had ~900 new users, and a near-rewrite by a panicy rusty while I baby-sat MySQL/Apache all day..
Wooo.. now it works and is not slow under load
--
As the 'security guy' for my home, Kuro5hin.org, and other firewalls I've setup for people I know, I can tell you that:
.. kill. Then go and chmod -x all those binaries. No remote root. Simple, effective. You could probably have perl scripts do it :-)
;-)
"after all, a bunch of them are probably not even very much up-to-date and it takes a lots of time and experience to secure properly a Linux server. "
Is wrong! It's very simple: you need three things to lock down a box from remote root: nmap, lsof, and kill. Find what's open (nmap scan TCP), find out what 'owns' the port (lsof), and kill it. Then set your system to not run it. The RPC services should be turned off without even bothering to check if they're running -- every distro has them one by default (why!?). ps -ax|grep rpc
Otherwise, it's just watch bugtraq, watch your box, and be suspicous. Oh, and don't run Washington University code
--
If you live in a city where the police are corrupt, but lie to everyone that they aren't.. a city which also has a mafia which does not lie about what it does.. which would you have a clearer conscience supporting?
It's a Kobayashi Maru situation. You can't win. But this way, I know my money is not going to the bigger, less obvious criminals. If I don't support them, then I'm at least doing more than 99% of the people.
--
Erh, how are 'The Sims' like a MUD? In a MUD, you interact with other people. In 'The Sims,' you just interact with your simulated people. If we ever had a large online world of it, chances are you'd only through a few layers of simulated people be able to communicate.
That's not a MUD at all because you don't directly control your avatar.
--
Today I had to flash the firmware on a Pioneer drive so I could watch a DVD at a friend's place (he came back from China with X-Men on DVD, and I wanted to see it. Based on the quality and such, I'm assuming the MPAA didn't see any money from it, so my concience is clear).
:-)
I'm sorry that Fujitsu had to do this. Now I either have to stop supporting them (probably what I'll do), or deal with having to work around their silly artificial limitations on my usage of a device (like I did with the region coding). Hopefully they'll learn their lesson and end this madness. Either that, or I buy more Seagate drives
--
"If you look on the site, rusty all but asks for a post."
:-)
Well, maybe we need to get you some new reading specs.. "[Update by Inoshiro, 13-09-2000 11:20:00 UTC]"
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Maybe I'm not the one to speak for Kuro5hin, being second in command.
:-)
But.. what?!
VA Linux gave us a server. If we hadn't been given the server, we'd have had to frickin' wait for about 10 years before banner ads paid for something more powerful than our old PPro! There's no control there, just a donation.
Oh well.. your comment is a good laugh. Hopefully someone will properly rate it as funny
--
And I suppose classical music is crap because it was written by poor ol' Bach, Bethoven, and the other great support-contract musicians of the middle-ages rather than after they signed rights to some big record giant?
You used to get it, man! Then k5 went down, and you got a job. And that haircut (it's so evil). And you stopped smoking pot and doing the heroin. You've changed, man!
I don't even know who you are anymore. I'm porting Scoop to PHP. You're dead to me now.
--
Sell out!
(I still get 50%, right?)
--
You may be asking yourself, "why is this frontpage news?"
;-)
;)"
/. gave a holler when we were up for business (hopefully soon), not about some small update written in the wee hours in the morning :)
I think I'm to blame..
<rusty> maybe it was cause you practially begged for it
<rusty> "Heck,
<rusty> it'd be nifty if others
gave us coverage
I meant that it'd be nice if
--
Midnight Commander has in it a nice user-space VFS layer (which is set to become the Gnome VFS layer). You just hit enter on a tgz or zip file, and you 'view' it much like RAR did in DOS years ago.
:)). Then just exit. Very clean and fast.
Another cool thing is you can also have ftpfs, undelfs, and other interesting file systems through this MC VFS. The power is really apprent when you need a single file from a archive on an FTP site. Just connect to the FTP, browse to the dir, hit enter on the archive, browse to the file, and hit F5 to copy to the other pane (which has the proper CWD
--
I have a Linux Developer's Resource CD-ROM in my hand. It has Slackware 2.3 with ELF beta. It also has Red Hat Mother's Day release +0.1. It's dated August 1995, and also has things like tsx-11.mit.edu, sunsite.unc.edu, Kernels 1.2.13 and 1.3.15, XFree86 3.1.2, Japanese Linux stuff, and Doom :-)
From this, one could assume that Slackware was further ahead of RH on the great "ELF changeover," as RH seems to have been pre-1.0 back then. Any other Linux History majors care to clear this up?
--
What's wrong with their terms of serivce?
The agreement basically says:
1) You agree that by agreeing, you are agreeing.
And by agreeing, you are bound by this contract.
2) We host the code, we don't give you dialup/WAN access.
3) Give us your real name. Mike Hunt is not a valid name.
4) You're responsible for your content. If you're going to host code, it has to be open source (as defined by OSI guidlines) as that's the focus of our site.
5) Don't resell this service.
6) We reserve the right to limit the service if need be (i.e.: bandwidth cap, file sizes cap).
7) Violation of our TOS, abuse of the site, a request for removal, and court order are valid reasons for removing a hosted site.
8) This is the web, we have links. If you link to DeCSS, we're not responsible
9) We're not liable for what we can't control.
10) Our trademarks are ours, and your are yours
11) Ditto for copyrights. Tell us if people violate this and #10.
12) This contract is the only thing you have to sign for us (sourceforge admins). Nothing more is required for hosting, etc.
13) Violations of this should be reported.
Hardly the totalitarian dictatorship conspiracy by ESR, RMS, VA, etc.. In fact, grepping for "sell," the only occurance of it is in point #5 about not reselling service!
If you're so afraid of people selling code you've worked on, don't make it opensource!
Otherwise, you're just being a troll.
--
If you're like me and think that cat /etc/sendmail.cf | perl would produce the code to Netscape v4, you can look into a great alternative called postfix.
:-)
Very nice.. Perl compatible regular expressions, SQL, and human-readable config files. It also lends itself to chrooting, has never had a known security problem, outperforms sendmail, etc.
Try it.. you'll be happy you did
--
Alright, so it can be disabled there.
:)).
But why doesn't it shut off when you have your security level set as high as it can be? Why didn't they place the controls for such a device in a more obvious location? Does "user data persistence" even give you a clue as to what it's actually doing?
Deleting all cookies, emptying the cache and removing everything from the Temporary Internet Files folder does not make a difference. Hmmm, eh? Why go to the trouble of making it so hard to find this, even for people who know where to look?
There's not even an option for you to be warned when servers set data...
Most average windows users don't even know of that final tab to the IE config which has a list of random options in random order (how helpful of the programmers).
I, for one, am glad I don't use IE at all on my workstation [dual boot] (revenge of mozilla is your friend
--
Most cases today are designed such that all ports are in the back. With the older AT motherboard layout, you could have long internal cables connecting the appropriate motherboard connector to a front panel one, but the ATX motherboards have the ports rather firmly attached at the rear.
A possible solution is to develop a generic case that has front plate mounts, and hope it is adopted as a standard. Then people can have a comm port, USB connector, and firewire port on the front as standard (as well as add-in connectors for audio jacks and the like).
However, until a standard appears, anything possible will likely be a hack that won't work the same on similar boxes.
--
I see you've tried 2.4.. on what hardware setup? 2.4.0-test6 on my K6-III 400 w/ 128 mb of ram produces a very noticeably different behaviour under load (as compared to 2.2.16 and 2.2.17).
:)
For me, the difference was that make -j 27 (which help get a ludicrous load) didn't destroy interactiveness. I was able to type, etc, as if nothing else was happening on the system. This partially has to do with the atomic timeslice going from 200ms to 50ms, and partially from the general updates to 2.4. If you've not tried -test6, I suggest you do
--
It's very, very simple.
/etc directory, with programs which can read a config from /etc and a user specific location.
Step 1: make sure that the system's locale related stuff is owned by a secure account and permissioned accordingly so that others can't modify it.
Step 2: Ensure any setuid and setgid programs ignore user specified or non-system locales.
This way, the user can affect only their own account. They cannot give their specially made locales to setuid and setgid programs, and the setuid and setgid programs can still benefit from the system (presumed secure) locales.
It's no different from having properly permissioned
--
Do you think that means they'll start making a profit?
--
Maybe I'm reading this wrong...
BUT: somehow, you say that the expense of producing copies of an artist's work without permission is OK as long as you pay for it?
I think this logic train derailed somewhere near the love canal....
Things that are OK: protesting unfair price gouging, protesting unfair fair-use removal (like this guilty until proven innocent tax).
Things that are not OK: randoming warezing and copying anything you bloody well feel like just because you can. If everyone did things because they could, the GPL and the like wouldn't be enforcable. That's Bad.
In conclusion: how did "I paid for a burner so I can warez" get to +4?!
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