When all comnpanies are finally cool intel will be one of the last ones to have made it there.
Why? They're not fun. I remember a day when I was sitting at a truly arcane 8086 intel development system to bring up the ROMS for an 8086 version of the companies 8085 based product. Other people were using macs. And having fun doing their work. I was suffering with segment registers. Not cool.
Even IBM is slightly more cool than intel. I can't believe I'm saying this.
Usually, it's the flashy fast-talking man who gets the press.
Maybe that's why google has 10X the number of hits for
"father of the internet" cerf
than with Kahns name. Bob did the vast majority of the work on TCP/IP and is still a scientist, Vint is the Madonna of the modern internet. Capable, but truly adept at shameless self promotion.
Bob Matcalf (who invented ethernet) called Vint "Darth Cerf".
Last year a buddy got fed up not being able to so anytbhing on his compaq laptop and against my vehement proetstations bought an iMac. I was at his place working for 2 weeks and had to use nothing but this iMac. From that point on I felt no reason to buy anoither PC, ever. (I feel non-OSX macs still suck and always have)
He bought about five of them over the next year and gave me one he got for a "2 for $175" deal. It's by far the most popular computer in our house among family and friends that want to check their email.
Point is he got these cheap and now that the mini is out older OSX macs are going to plummit.
It wouldn't surprise me to find decent $100 OSX macs on say craigslist now or very soon. That's a real easy way to try it out without plonking down $500.
But do try it. You'll fucking love it. I work for a living and the notion of a computer that doesn't crash all the time is tres appealing.
Besides at these prices you can buy a Beowolf cluster of them.
If you havn't figured this out yet you need to download another one.
Don't wory though, it's stil better than windows, 100% of all windows software is crap because the operating system, as Dan Bernstein so aptly put it "Just doesn't work".
"Honestly, who wants to run Linux on a MAC when they are able to run MacOS-X on it. Doesn't make much sense to me"
No kidding. We're finally able to buy cheap functional BSD or BSDesque machines and people want to install Linux on top of that? Why? Not enough security problems? A fixation to put things in the wrong place ? An aversion to dp->d_type ?
Chuck Bigelow deserves a medal for crafting Lucida and making it freely available.
Verdana sort of looks ok and Georgia is damn ugly IMO, I find myself using "Lucida Sans Unicode, Ludica Grande" these days as they work on both Windoze and Macs out of the box and look better than anything else.
Course if it iwas up to me I'd use Arnold Bocklin everywhere. Now you know why it's not up to me.
"I hope we see more and more of this. Eventually people have got to realize how stupid our copyright laws have become, and we can get back to common sense."
Intellectual property laws are means to protect the creators of works. They are not designed to make things easy for consumers use - modulo the "fair use" exemption in copyright law.
Would it be fair for somebody to create an identical statue? Probbaly not, that's copying. But you expect it to be ok to photograph it? That's also a copy.
Where do you draw the line?
I side with those who think it's retarded you can't take a picture of a statue in a park, but I understand the law. Having said that, IMO this is a dumb application of the law and the artist/city are assholes for taking a position against photgraphing it.
So, say you paint a painting and it's really really good. But you need money for heroin or a new Beowolf cluster so you sell it for $100. Buyer then issues 5000 limited edition prints and makes $10M. Is this fair?
Think you can walk into any museum and (possibly covertly) take pictures of all the paintings by artists both dead and alive and sell the photos in book? Is this fair?
You folks that are outraged seem to think this is not fair. It doesn't have to be fair, it has to be legal.
Mr. Bush has made this place quite popular. Used to be in this very rural neo-artic wasteland that I live in the first thing you'd say to somebody moving in was "So what part of tronnoare you from?" but now we're getting peopele from Georgia, Indiana, Maine, you name it.
Oh and bring Euros. Your dollar is near worthless now.
The best best best part about Opera is that it doesn't check with the server when you hit the back button!
What he said.
and has saved me hundreds of hours
Ditto. Squared.
When you hit 'back' in Opera, the browser simply redisplays (from the cache) what was there before.
Uh, yeah well, roughly haldf the time a form with typed in data that you've clicked submit to then gone back to will, not display correctly. Do a bunch of work in a bunch of windows and go back to a form page ad you get what it was originally rendered as, no the latest that has valid form data. Sometimes.
Still it's the browser I use 99.99% of the time. I can get so much more work done with Opera than any other browser it's just not funny.
I only use IE roughly twice a week to see if stuff renders ok for the masses. It almost always does these days.
Google has enough infrastructure to be the only DNS nameserver that you need, worldwide. Screw decentralized[1], they can have the entire DNS tree "in house" and you woudln't need to check 8 servers just to get to Yahoo's web page. They could handle all domain registration and maintenance.
I've been told "they're not ready for this yet".
Pity.
[1] you could still list yourself as secondary if you really wanted to take that kind of performance hit.
" _real hackers_ would use straight TeX or runoff or raw postscript!"
Oh, please, can we? I had one of the first postscript printers (on my Amiga 1000, serial #27) and while the language HP lasers used - HPGL seemed nice, Postscript seemed scary and complex; but it was obviously the one true way. Anything looking that much like FORTH had to be the answer.
So I bought the red book. I bought the blue book. I looked for the green book. I cultivated the Reid brothers as friends. I read comp.lang.postscipt. I imaged film at 1250 and then 2450 dpi. I typeset a book on my amiga that actually got printed. I became a barely competant PS hacker. I was ready for the postscript revolution!
Wake me up when it happens. Until then I have to put a gray border around some assholes webpage because his accountant wants it...
dup showpage
this, bitch.
To comment on the original topic, I was an Assembly progammmer from 70 to about 93 and I'm telling you people the problem with code bloat is C++.
Go back to C and check to see if it generated nice code and you can fit things on floppies again.
I'm a contract programming whore but you can't pay me to use C++. I'd sooner do COBOL.
Now, the interesting thing is there were TWO languages to come out of Bell Labs after C. C++ was only one of them, but it's creater had a Cerfian sense of self promotion and the language was popularized much to our collective dismay.
Jim Fleming aquired the rights to the other language, it's called C@+ and pronounced "cat".
A C@+ compiler written in C+@, fits on a floppy. I have one here. It's what we should be using if you want to use anything other than C.
"We've had periods of very intense volcanic acivity over the last 200,000 years, for example, and the atmosphere and oceans have been able to balance out. Back then, though, the coral reefs weren't dying off, the northern oceans weren't overfished, and there was twice as much old growth and rain forest as there is now. How does a planet adjust when the natural carbon sinks aren't there?"
Ouch.
OTOH, it's the warmest winter here on record. Again. Usually it's -44 this month in the frozen neo arctic county in Ontario I live in. It's been balmy all waeek and I worked on my car in a T shirt one afternoon.
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When all comnpanies are finally cool intel will be one of the last ones to have made it there.
Why? They're not fun. I remember a day when I was sitting at a truly arcane 8086 intel development system to bring up the ROMS for an 8086 version of the companies 8085 based product. Other people were using macs. And having fun doing their work. I was suffering with segment registers. Not cool.
Even IBM is slightly more cool than intel. I can't believe I'm saying this.
Maybe that's why google has 10X the number of hits for than with Kahns name. Bob did the vast majority of the work on TCP/IP and is still a scientist, Vint is the Madonna of the modern internet. Capable, but truly adept at shameless self promotion.
Bob Matcalf (who invented ethernet) called Vint "Darth Cerf".
... and YOU WERE THERE
Last year a buddy got fed up not being able to so anytbhing on his compaq laptop and against my vehement proetstations bought an iMac. I was at his place working for 2 weeks and had to use nothing but this iMac. From that point on I felt no reason to buy anoither PC, ever. (I feel non-OSX macs still suck and always have)
He bought about five of them over the next year and gave me one he got for a "2 for $175" deal. It's by far the most popular computer in our house among family and friends that want to check their email.
Point is he got these cheap and now that the mini is out older OSX macs are going to plummit.
It wouldn't surprise me to find decent $100 OSX macs on say craigslist now or very soon. That's a real easy way to try it out without plonking down $500.
But do try it. You'll fucking love it. I work for a living and the notion of a computer that doesn't crash all the time is tres appealing.
Besides at these prices you can buy a Beowolf cluster of them.
Having said that the notion that somebody with Debian in production can just switch in a Mac Mini has tremendous appeal.
Segments are for worms.
If you havn't figured this out yet you need to download another one.
Don't wory though, it's stil better than windows, 100% of all windows software is crap because the operating system, as Dan Bernstein so aptly put it "Just doesn't work".
"Honestly, who wants to run Linux on a MAC when they are able to run MacOS-X on it. Doesn't make much sense to me"
No kidding. We're finally able to buy cheap functional BSD or BSDesque machines and people want to install Linux on top of that? Why? Not enough security problems? A fixation to put things in the wrong place ? An aversion to dp->d_type ?
Didn't Opera win a lawsuit against MS for their selective CSS for different browsers?
Chuck Bigelow deserves a medal for crafting Lucida and making it freely available.
Verdana sort of looks ok and Georgia is damn ugly IMO, I find myself using "Lucida Sans Unicode, Ludica Grande" these days as they work on both Windoze and Macs out of the box and look better than anything else.
Course if it iwas up to me I'd use Arnold Bocklin everywhere. Now you know why it's not up to me.
"I hope we see more and more of this. Eventually people have got to realize how stupid our copyright laws have become, and we can get back to common sense."
Intellectual property laws are means to protect the creators of works. They are not designed to make things easy for consumers use - modulo the "fair use" exemption in copyright law.
Would it be fair for somebody to create an identical statue? Probbaly not, that's copying. But you expect it to be ok to photograph it? That's also a copy.
Where do you draw the line?
I side with those who think it's retarded you can't take a picture of a statue in a park, but I understand the law. Having said that, IMO this is a dumb application of the law and the artist/city are assholes for taking a position against photgraphing it.
Didn't anybody check the EULA on this thing?
So, say you paint a painting and it's really really good. But you need money for heroin or a new Beowolf cluster so you sell it for $100. Buyer then issues 5000 limited edition prints and makes $10M. Is this fair?
Think you can walk into any museum and (possibly covertly) take pictures of all the paintings by artists both dead and alive and sell the photos in book? Is this fair?
You folks that are outraged seem to think this is not fair. It doesn't have to be fair, it has to be legal.
"Since when is "rust" copyrightable?"
Only when it's moving. So, not a problem.
Take a number.
Mr. Bush has made this place quite popular. Used to be in this very rural neo-artic wasteland that I live in the first thing you'd say to somebody moving in was "So what part of tronnoare you from?" but now we're getting peopele from Georgia, Indiana, Maine, you name it.
Oh and bring Euros. Your dollar is near worthless now.
Yeah, I can sleep in in the morning without those noisy friggin birds clammering.
Although I would like some GM crows that sound like peacocks for my neighbor (the one with the weed whackere that only works at 7:30 AM)
Screw that. How about a lawn with a high THC content?
The best best best part about Opera is that it doesn't check with the server when you hit the back button!
What he said.
and has saved me hundreds of hours
Ditto. Squared.
When you hit 'back' in Opera, the browser simply redisplays (from the cache) what was there before.
Uh, yeah well, roughly haldf the time a form with typed in data that you've clicked submit to then gone back to will, not display correctly. Do a bunch of work in a bunch of windows and go back to a form page ad you get what it was originally rendered as, no the latest that has valid form data. Sometimes.
Still it's the browser I use 99.99% of the time. I can get so much more work done with Opera than any other browser it's just not funny.
I only use IE roughly twice a week to see if stuff renders ok for the masses. It almost always does these days.
It looks like Mesothelioma is at about $51. Asbestos at $16 and Asbestosis at $4
Which begs the qustion, what are other high paying ad keywords? I know there's a $10 "monte carlo simulation" ad sometimes...
People still use Orkut?
Google search runs on 10,000+ Linux PC's.
Orkut runs on 6 NT servers.
Can't or won't?
Google has enough infrastructure to be the only DNS nameserver that you need, worldwide. Screw decentralized[1], they can have the entire DNS tree "in house" and you woudln't need to check 8 servers just to get to Yahoo's web page. They could handle all domain registration and maintenance.
I've been told "they're not ready for this yet".
Pity.
[1] you could still list yourself as secondary if you really wanted to take that kind of performance hit.
"At what point does Google turn from everybody's favorite company, to the next Microsoft?"
When it stops being a usefull tool.
If they ever do pr0n I've got a great name for them.
Opening up word, typing Hello world!/ecode and saving it yields a 24K file.
Oddly, doing the samr thing with vi results in a 12 byte file.
Oh, please, can we? I had one of the first postscript printers (on my Amiga 1000, serial #27) and while the language HP lasers used - HPGL seemed nice, Postscript seemed scary and complex; but it was obviously the one true way. Anything looking that much like FORTH had to be the answer.
So I bought the red book. I bought the blue book. I looked for the green book. I cultivated the Reid brothers as friends. I read comp.lang.postscipt. I imaged film at 1250 and then 2450 dpi. I typeset a book on my amiga that actually got printed. I became a barely competant PS hacker. I was ready for the postscript revolution!
Wake me up when it happens. Until then I have to put a gray border around some assholes webpage because his accountant wants it... this, bitch.
To comment on the original topic, I was an Assembly progammmer from 70 to about 93 and I'm telling you people the problem with code bloat is C++.
Go back to C and check to see if it generated nice code and you can fit things on floppies again.
I'm a contract programming whore but you can't pay me to use C++. I'd sooner do COBOL.
Now, the interesting thing is there were TWO languages to come out of Bell Labs after C. C++ was only one of them, but it's creater had a Cerfian sense of self promotion and the language was popularized much to our collective dismay.
Jim Fleming aquired the rights to the other language, it's called C@+ and pronounced "cat".
A C@+ compiler written in C+@, fits on a floppy. I have one here. It's what we should be using if you want to use anything other than C.
"We've had periods of very intense volcanic acivity over the last 200,000 years, for example, and the atmosphere and oceans have been able to balance out. Back then, though, the coral reefs weren't dying off, the northern oceans weren't overfished, and there was twice as much old growth and rain forest as there is now. How does a planet adjust when the natural carbon sinks aren't there?"
Ouch.
OTOH, it's the warmest winter here on record. Again. Usually it's -44 this month in the frozen neo arctic county in Ontario I live in. It's been balmy all waeek and I worked on my car in a T shirt one afternoon.
I'm sure it's justcoincidence.