If you don't mind telling, what is her prognosis for recovery?
It's downright crap, to be honest. The doctors say that any brain stem function disabled by pressure to the brain should return after the crucial first 48 hours. Those passed. Now they say we're looking at months, possibly years, if ever....
I'm not particularly religious, but I highly appreciate any well wishes, absolutely including these. Many people have promised prayers in our direct surroundings and I assure you we accept them wholeheartedly. Thank you.
That's what we've indeed been focusing on the first week. And you're right. As the only tech-savvy person in the family though, I am already researching the options asked in my questions. But thanks, we definitely continue to reassure her in every possible way.
Thank you for your suggestions. I have written emails to both Mr. Guenther and the Unlock team. They seem to be operating in a small section of the United States, but not asking is a definite 'no'. So to speak. We'll see.
You're right of course. It's not the OS' fault. You know this, and so do I. But it's beside the point. To make a succesful desktop OS you needn't concern yourself (like, ever) with those driver issues.
It's understandable, but then again, it really isn't.
But it always felt a little ironic that Ubuntu crashes about once every 5 times on my desktop while Win8 (dual boot) runs flawlessly.
I mean c'mon, just make it f-in work out of the box. Won't install it anymore. Especially with a raspberry in my network for my dicking around in a linux distro.
Seems to me that a plane flying into space and land by itself should be the real race shouldn't it? This doesn't seem very low cost (relatively maybe). Is this a necessary step engineering-wise?
You have far too much invested in your argument at this point
Ow yeah, forgot to mention, check the thread for seeing me drastically changing my mind. I at one point admit that I was convinced by others that even blocking child porn might be a bad idea. Maybe you can at least concur that when you implied I was unable to change my mind in this discussion, it wasn't entirely accurate. This is me:
You misinterpret that quote, it wasn't at all in the 'think of the children' context. But I am not going to put everything into perspective, because probably if I have trouble translating it to you, other will as well. Maybe it's a language thing. You do realize probably that with the whole 'I'm not expecting an apology from you' statement you rig the discussion just as hard as you accused me of doing don't you? Anyway, it's been good talking to you, honestly. We're strangers which would have never met or spoken a word otherwise. Good luck.
Hamlet. Nice and all. I'll play ball once more, since you took the time in the GP post to type up some stuff. As you can read in the entire thread, I felt it was hugely interesting to discuss this topic. Even though people got emotional, and offended, that didn't happen to me. If you disagree, I'd like a quote from me somewhere that showed offence. Not an appeal to common courtesy, offence. Things like 'fuck you mr. dictator' don't bother me in the slightest, but it does make it difficult for me to take that opinion seriously because I don't know if someone like that is even interested in a discussion.
There are allot of inaccurate statements in what you said.
People, like cablepokerface, that argue for X at the expense of Y because X is so very bad nothing else can matter are doing so often based on feelings
Check my very first post, root level. I explicitly encouraged people to keep emotions out of it. And didn't repeat them after that.
cablepokerface just introduced a non-rational argument into a rational discussion
lol. At almost no point it was a rational discussion, but I worked very hard to try to keep it that. I replied to anyone (including you) to make sure the root level post wasn't troll-intended, but a question if some censorship is needed for certain reasons. Some replies were not entirely content based because people posted non-content related things for me to address.
Now I could be off about the details on this particular debate but what I'm saying is a very real thing. For whatever reason it is much more allowed for people to introduce non-rational, to the point of them being non-nonsensical, point after point into a debate and it is expected that the reaction is to be calm in facing them. If the person on the other side of the debate has the temerity to become emotional in response they then are the person who has done wrong and then the person who pushed for X, even in non-rational ways, now has their non-rational arguments still on the table but is the victim as well in their cards.
Without a doubt true about lots of discussions, but if you think it applied here, you either wanted to show your knowledge on interpersonal engagements (which you without a doubt have), but more likely, you stepped into the discussion too late and didn't read the whole thing.
Because that's what you and I would be doing if we didn't have this chat right here? The grand parent made clear that HIS time could be spent better, and that HE was bored with the discussion. Not that of society as a whole which you imply. We were talking about how this discussion right here, right now would be wasted time. Which I really think it isn't.
I don't think it's knee-jerk. It consider this stuff allot. Stuff like ethics and religion occupy me daily. I regret mentioning my kids, because they have nothing to do with the way I feel.
I have never seen any kind of child porn whatsoever, through any medium, in my entire life.
I haven't either, I must admit. And that includes while browsing for regular porn. And no, we're not discussing the term 'regular', if you don't mind. So good point.
Nevermind actually taking a moment to discuss it seriously.
Like someone else mentioned here. New people are born every generation, and that makes the most interesting and important discussions a thousand years old. And almost infinitely renewable.
You're right. The childporn-issue is easier to discuss, because the urgency is clear. The violence is much, much harder. I was referring to sites that instruct to kill a specific person or group. But it's undoable, and more than that, undefinable.
That may be a solution for me. I'm seriously considering OpenDNS. But the original point was that I was hoping that blocking the child pornography would affect the demand. Or maybe even nullify the supply. But I am very much aware this has huge disadvantages.
(which is what some of the others have tried expressing, just less politely)
'have tried' is crucial here. Because I noticed it, but just won't pick up on that if both the eloquence and intention is lacking. There has to be a minimum to work with.
Very insightful. So far, the debate has been enriching for me that I actually truly regret proposing that child porn should be blocked for everyone. It might actually be a bad idea. But, for the life of me, I can't put my finger on why exactly.
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Thank you, that was good advice. And uplifting for myself as well, might I add.
If you don't mind telling, what is her prognosis for recovery?
It's downright crap, to be honest. The doctors say that any brain stem function disabled by pressure to the brain should return after the crucial first 48 hours. Those passed. Now they say we're looking at months, possibly years, if ever....
I'm not particularly religious, but I highly appreciate any well wishes, absolutely including these. Many people have promised prayers in our direct surroundings and I assure you we accept them wholeheartedly. Thank you.
That's what we've indeed been focusing on the first week. And you're right. As the only tech-savvy person in the family though, I am already researching the options asked in my questions. But thanks, we definitely continue to reassure her in every possible way.
Dasher is a solid suggestion too. It's new to me. I'm am currently looking into what hardware it best suits. Thank you.
Thank you for your suggestions. I have written emails to both Mr. Guenther and the Unlock team. They seem to be operating in a small section of the United States, but not asking is a definite 'no'. So to speak. We'll see.
You're right of course. It's not the OS' fault. You know this, and so do I. But it's beside the point. To make a succesful desktop OS you needn't concern yourself (like, ever) with those driver issues.
It's understandable, but then again, it really isn't.
But it always felt a little ironic that Ubuntu crashes about once every 5 times on my desktop while Win8 (dual boot) runs flawlessly.
I mean c'mon, just make it f-in work out of the box. Won't install it anymore. Especially with a raspberry in my network for my dicking around in a linux distro.
Seems to me that a plane flying into space and land by itself should be the real race shouldn't it? This doesn't seem very low cost (relatively maybe). Is this a necessary step engineering-wise?
who in their right mind, puts high reliability, crucial work in a server room on freakin' Windows?!?
Me. I would totally do that. And have in the past. To much satisfaction. Especially 2008 r2. It's awesome. (haven't tried 2012 in the enterprise)
Then again, they probably couldn't agree on the champagne brand alone
pps. I won't be monitoring this thread anymore. (does slashdot have thread notifications?) Feel free to send me a PM if you posted something new.
You have far too much invested in your argument at this point
Ow yeah, forgot to mention, check the thread for seeing me drastically changing my mind. I at one point admit that I was convinced by others that even blocking child porn might be a bad idea. Maybe you can at least concur that when you implied I was unable to change my mind in this discussion, it wasn't entirely accurate. This is me:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4022577&cid=44400111
You misinterpret that quote, it wasn't at all in the 'think of the children' context. But I am not going to put everything into perspective, because probably if I have trouble translating it to you, other will as well. Maybe it's a language thing. You do realize probably that with the whole 'I'm not expecting an apology from you' statement you rig the discussion just as hard as you accused me of doing don't you? Anyway, it's been good talking to you, honestly. We're strangers which would have never met or spoken a word otherwise. Good luck.
There are allot of inaccurate statements in what you said.
People, like cablepokerface, that argue for X at the expense of Y because X is so very bad nothing else can matter are doing so often based on feelings
Check my very first post, root level. I explicitly encouraged people to keep emotions out of it. And didn't repeat them after that.
cablepokerface just introduced a non-rational argument into a rational discussion
lol. At almost no point it was a rational discussion, but I worked very hard to try to keep it that. I replied to anyone (including you) to make sure the root level post wasn't troll-intended, but a question if some censorship is needed for certain reasons. Some replies were not entirely content based because people posted non-content related things for me to address.
Now I could be off about the details on this particular debate but what I'm saying is a very real thing. For whatever reason it is much more allowed for people to introduce non-rational, to the point of them being non-nonsensical, point after point into a debate and it is expected that the reaction is to be calm in facing them. If the person on the other side of the debate has the temerity to become emotional in response they then are the person who has done wrong and then the person who pushed for X, even in non-rational ways, now has their non-rational arguments still on the table but is the victim as well in their cards.
Without a doubt true about lots of discussions, but if you think it applied here, you either wanted to show your knowledge on interpersonal engagements (which you without a doubt have), but more likely, you stepped into the discussion too late and didn't read the whole thing.
At not point, not once, I actually got offended. As I said; I request courtesy, I don't require it.
Because that's what you and I would be doing if we didn't have this chat right here? The grand parent made clear that HIS time could be spent better, and that HE was bored with the discussion. Not that of society as a whole which you imply. We were talking about how this discussion right here, right now would be wasted time. Which I really think it isn't.
If that is a given, an absolute irrefutable fact, then there is indeed nothing we can do but never allow any censorship.
How would that work? Remove commercialization.
I have never seen any kind of child porn whatsoever, through any medium, in my entire life.
I haven't either, I must admit. And that includes while browsing for regular porn. And no, we're not discussing the term 'regular', if you don't mind. So good point.
Nevermind actually taking a moment to discuss it seriously.
Like someone else mentioned here. New people are born every generation, and that makes the most interesting and important discussions a thousand years old. And almost infinitely renewable.
You're right. The childporn-issue is easier to discuss, because the urgency is clear. The violence is much, much harder. I was referring to sites that instruct to kill a specific person or group. But it's undoable, and more than that, undefinable.
The Netherlands here. I doubt it'll happen here. Although the UK thing keeps the discussion very much alive.
That may be a solution for me. I'm seriously considering OpenDNS. But the original point was that I was hoping that blocking the child pornography would affect the demand. Or maybe even nullify the supply. But I am very much aware this has huge disadvantages.
(which is what some of the others have tried expressing, just less politely)
'have tried' is crucial here. Because I noticed it, but just won't pick up on that if both the eloquence and intention is lacking. There has to be a minimum to work with.
Very insightful. So far, the debate has been enriching for me that I actually truly regret proposing that child porn should be blocked for everyone. It might actually be a bad idea. But, for the life of me, I can't put my finger on why exactly.