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I am running OpenBSD firewall... I have the pf and ftp-proxy configured correctly (checked by someone who knows this by heart), still can't have the ftp working for the internal network. Gone through all configurations, docs, still don't have it working. Have to waste more time on this later, just because the users 'need' the ftp to download shit from other firm...
Sorry, but the pf/ftp-proxy combination works as advertised. I'd suggest your configuration is wrong. Asserting that it doesn't work because "someone who knows this by heart" examined it is meaningless.
Fix your configuration and stop complaining. Both pf and ftp-proxy can do detailed logging. If you understand FTP, and you examine the logged output, you'll quickly find the source of your errors and, by extension, the solution.
Granted FTP is a creaky protocol, and while it's true that most people don't understand it (even those that claim they do), it's just as true that it ain't going anywhere. Maybe it's time to brush up on the RFCs?
The key part of "Repetitive Strain Injury" is "Repetitive". I'm pretty sure spending hours learning to touch type by typing ZCA CZA KLM LPN KPL over and over again from the traditional centered-keyboard home-row position is going to give you carpel tunnel a LOT faster than "normal" typing.
I'm afraid you don't understand the concept of technique. The idea is to be able to type ZCA CZA KLM LPN KPL over and over again without effort, strain, or injury, while developing the desired speed. If you can't do that, then, as any music instructor will tell you, you're not doing it right.
Musicians, incidentally, typically practise more hours in a day than anyone spends typing, and more hours than most of us spend at work (unless your a sysadmin). None of them require "ergonomic" fretboards or keyboards, and would balk at the idea of gel-filled rests for their arms, writs, or hands. What they do require is ideal technique and the dedication to endless hours of careful (and possibly boring) practice.
Then again, most people are lazy. Why exercise the weakest fingers? Why play scales? Why hold your wrists up? Why learn to sit with your back straight, when it takes more effort? Why indeed. Better to sit back in that bean-bag chair with a drink nearby and call it a day.
As for the article submitter, I'd suggest that if he wants to improve his technique, he'll have to "unlearn" his current one. That means learning (or re-learning) the rules so that he can break them, and then onnly if needed or desired. Stopping and going backwards so that he can move forward again, if you will. Musicians that deviate or otherwise use their own uniquely-inspired variations of standard techniques typically do so after years of pedagogic instruction and careful supervision. The ones that don't are one in a million. Everyone else is forever stuck at some level of mediocre proficiency (impressing friends and family, no doubt) and is talking out their ass.
If you can type anywhere near 100wpm with "non-standard" technique AND your typing is accurate AND your typing is effortless, then you're a one in a million. Changing your technique may offer improvements, but I suspect those improvements will be subtle, and the gains relatively minor. Me, I can probably learn to do a consistent 120wpm. Practically spekaing, though, it's not worth the dedication or the effort, so I generally coast along at 80-90. Laziness and comfort is not something to aspire to (or advocate), but in measured doses, can be a good thing.
The younguns should note the suit and tie. It was how we got things done. That's right. Getting things done required a Real Man wearing a Real Suit And Tie. Or labcoat and tie.
I've experienced the exact opposite problem. I searched both my right and left hip pockets and found nothing at all. Then I realised I don't even own a cell phone.
Next time I'll be more careful. As my dad used to say, "It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man."
That money is not created, it is bled from the rest of the economy... please do not confuse the exploited creators with the exploitative publishers... profit and greed is what you claim as their one saving grace...
LOL. I don't know whether you're a troll, having a bad day, or just can't read. In no way did I claim anything, or espouse any point of view. I merely pointed out that the sum total of what you find so easy to dismiss represents a huge and growing chunk of the economy (i.e., real money and real jobs). Anybody living in the real world knows that when there's money at stake, people sit up and listen to the stakeholders.
My sentiments are inline with yours, but I'd be a fool, as you would be, to think that anyone in power gives a damn about advancing noble causes or has time to listen to vague, handwavy notions of participitory experiences. Their responsibilities are, for better or worse, to maintain things the way they are because everyone is depending on it. And those figures and words I cited? Those are echoed all the way up the food chain. The conversation you're trying to have is just background noise.
You know what else represents a good chunk of our economy? Financial services. Those folks don't make anything either. So if you want to rail against real exploitation, that would be a good place to start. Good luck with that, too.
To be honest the internet is a threat to the digital economy --------- of the middle men, those that contribute nothing but, hmm, bullshit.
Contribute nothing? Perhaps, but consider the following (selected at random from the US Chamber of Commerce website):
The intellectual property (IP) generated by U.S. companies is critical to America's prosperity and leadership in the global economy. America's IP-intensive industries employ nearly 18 million workers, account for more than 50% of all U.S. exports, and represent 40% of the country's growth (Department of Commerce).
U.S. intellectual property is worth between $5 trillion and $5.5 trillion--more than the nominal gross domestic product (GDP) of any other country (USA for Innovation).
So yeah, you could make an argument that such companies contribute nothing, or make nothing, but you'd have to agree there's an awful lot of money and jobs (and corresponding political influence) tied up in those numbers, and without those companies doing the nothing that they do so well, a chunk of the economy goes poof.
It should be noted that Google is not breaking youtube for IE6 users(the poor bastards). Doing so would be pretty stupid...
Correct on both counts. From the fine article:
YouTube will have an interstitial appear when users on older browser try to watch a video on YouTube. Google says the interstitial will show up indefinitely every two weeks until the user upgrades to the most recent version of their browser.
Implicit in the approach is an attempt to shame the user. That, combined with the presentation of a list of options (supported browsers) will go a long way to dispel the erroneous notions of folks who associate the internet with the Big Blue "e", or otherwise think the world begins and ends with Microsoft products. Overstated? Perhaps, but if I was Microsoft, I'd prefer not having one of the world's best known companies reminding my customers that my products suck.
In the lawsuit... MagicJack alleged that these statements were false, misleading, and had irreparably harmed MagicJack's reputation by exposing it to "hate, ridicule and obloquy".
Someone's got to say it...
Our three weapons are... hate, ridicule and obloquoy!
I know people who kept every postcard and letter they'd ever received - I doubt you could say the same about that with email. People still just don't consider email a serious medium.
Which is my point. If digital files aren't considered "serious", how can elaborate backup schemes and distributed network storage amount to anything more than transient (albeit reliable) storage?
The irony is that those letters and diaries of days gone by may not have been considered "serious" either, but they did outlive their original owners.
How long an individual disk or SSD or stone tablet lasts is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to the prospects for information longevity, given the network, and new levels of automated distribution that will take place on it going forward.
I don't know that I agree with that.
Compare, for example, letters written during the Civil War, with email messages sent and received by those involved in either of the Gulf Wars. Which do you think had, at the time they were written, a better chance of being available to future historians?
I'd suggest we are in danger of losing our history. What's odd is how blithe we are about it.
The point is testing this on smaller TLD. We have been working with.ORG and other TLDs to test DNSSEC for a while now. When the time comes for a signed root and.COM and.NET signed, we will be ready.
While there are many early adopters of DNSSEC today, including many Top Level Domains (TLDs) the linchpin event that most people are waiting for in order to get really excited about DNSSEC deployment is the signing of the root zone. The plans for this have been laid, and the first stages of the deployment of the signed zone are already under way. You can read all about these plans, and the projected timetable at http://www.root-dnssec.org/. The key elements of the timetable are that by the end of May all root name servers will be serving a zone that contains DNSSEC signatures, although they will be unvalidatable (for a variety of complicated reasons outside the scope of this document). Assuming that there are no show-stopping problems in the initial deployment phases by July 1st the real root zone keys will have been published, and the real zone will be signed on the root name servers.
If you follow the link for that announcement, you can read more about Bind-specific issues, and Bind issues as they relate to FreeBSD.
I think the question assumes a level of reliability that's typically not available with self hosting. That said, it's hardly unusual for small businesses do just that, with the smarter ones getting redundant connections (from different providers). And yes, those small businesses are limited to the same DSL and cable offerings just like the rest of are either because of geography or affordability issues.
A nitpick. Your "I'm not using running a business" disclaimer is relevant only insofar as you've signed up for a "residential type" of account, and what you meant to say is that you're not running any publically accessible services that may prohibited.
For cable and DSL, the distinctions between residential and business are mostly marketing, though there is a small price premium or added cost for "business class" service however its defined and/or marketed. ATT, for example, will be happy to give you a/29 for an extra $20 or so per month that you can use however you see fit (IIRC, it's called the Elite Plan, or something similarly stupid). Likewise, Time Warner offers fixed IPs on an a la carte basis for a few bucks each.
So self host? Sure. But not for a high volume website, or where downtime can be associated with real money being lost.
Lofty goals. This isn't enforceable, legally or practically. Three strikes and you get kicked off the internet? How?
You underestimate the power of the courts, and the effectiveness of bureauracies. Ever been the subject of a court order, or known someone who has? You'd be surprised at how a simple and seemingly narrow thing can have wide ranging implications. A small claims judgment, court-order child support, or a DUI can bring a lot of third-parties into the mix.
For hypothetical "DMCA Plus" offenses, things could remain simple. A signed order that requires the guilty party to "not use a computer or the internet" would suffice. Pissing off a judge by disregarding his or her order could easily result in, at minimum, increasingly harsh fines or penalties. And losing service from your ISP? Well, how many do you really have to choose from in your area?
I see your username is ElectricTurtle. Let me just look that up.
We have voice control now. It's just annoying, and practically speaking, I don't think current generations want to talk to their computers.
I'm sorry. I didn't quite get that.
If you want to post a comment, say "Comment". If you want to troll, say "Troll". If you're aiming for plus funny, just say "Funny". You can also say things like "Tech Support", or "I Don't Know".
Apparently you've forgotten the dark days of Windows 95 or 98, where you would click on an icon, and have to wait 1-2 minutes for the OS to finish thrashing your HDD, due to not having enough RAM to run properly.
For yucks, install Win95 or Win98 on modern hardware and see how the GUI performs. If the near-instantaneous drawing of windows doesn't startle you, wait till you go back to using your spiffy new box for your regular OS and discover things work a lot slower than you thought.
Back to memory, though. I suspect one of the underlying problems with people understanding how memory is used is how Windows reports things. For most, I guess, that's a field or two in taskmgr.exe. For my money, the output of top on a Unix system is far more useful. From a FreeBSD system:
Food is very cheap in comparison to the value of a person's labor
Perhaps in some sense. But you'll have to come up with a way of explaining away why food banks in the US are having trouble meeting the needs of the working poor (this was true before the recent financial crisis), and why it is that the working poor are (still) lining up for food.
Personally, I'd settle for one that "looked" the part, even if all it did was say "Guy killed me, Mal. He killed me with a sword. How weird is that?" Or something like that.
We are all in a global recession. As such, there are no "Glory Days" for anyone anywhere. I wouldn't count Silicon Valley out just yet.
A fair comment, but describing things globally may too generalised. What happens in Silicon Valley does not have to be the same as what happens elsewhere. One data point in the news recently: North Jersey Finds Popularity as Home for Data Centers.
On PBS, Nova is sponsored by the Howard Hughes Medical Institute. The NewsHour is funded by Chevron, Intel, BNSF Railway, Bank of America, Toyota, and Monsanto. Other PBS offerings are underwritten by local real estate companies, investment companies, and law firms. In each case, there is no "product" being hawked.
What, for example, does Archer Daniels Midland sell, and where can you buy it? Dunno? Neither do I, but I'm sure they understand why it is they're spending money on advertising (along with the benefits of doing so) better than the rest of us.
Advertise Linux? My opinion is that it's an excellent idea.
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I am running OpenBSD firewall ... I have the pf and ftp-proxy configured correctly (checked by someone who knows this by heart), still can't have the ftp working for the internal network. Gone through all configurations, docs, still don't have it working. Have to waste more time on this later, just because the users 'need' the ftp to download shit from other firm...
Sorry, but the pf/ftp-proxy combination works as advertised. I'd suggest your configuration is wrong. Asserting that it doesn't work because "someone who knows this by heart" examined it is meaningless.
Fix your configuration and stop complaining. Both pf and ftp-proxy can do detailed logging. If you understand FTP, and you examine the logged output, you'll quickly find the source of your errors and, by extension, the solution.
Granted FTP is a creaky protocol, and while it's true that most people don't understand it (even those that claim they do), it's just as true that it ain't going anywhere. Maybe it's time to brush up on the RFCs?
You could drive 100km on a jug of milk
I once went over 200km with a gallon of milk.
I think it was bad by the time I got home cuz the wife was real mad.
The key part of "Repetitive Strain Injury" is "Repetitive". I'm pretty sure spending hours learning to touch type by typing ZCA CZA KLM LPN KPL over and over again from the traditional centered-keyboard home-row position is going to give you carpel tunnel a LOT faster than "normal" typing.
I'm afraid you don't understand the concept of technique. The idea is to be able to type ZCA CZA KLM LPN KPL over and over again without effort, strain, or injury, while developing the desired speed. If you can't do that, then, as any music instructor will tell you, you're not doing it right.
Musicians, incidentally, typically practise more hours in a day than anyone spends typing, and more hours than most of us spend at work (unless your a sysadmin). None of them require "ergonomic" fretboards or keyboards, and would balk at the idea of gel-filled rests for their arms, writs, or hands. What they do require is ideal technique and the dedication to endless hours of careful (and possibly boring) practice.
Then again, most people are lazy. Why exercise the weakest fingers? Why play scales? Why hold your wrists up? Why learn to sit with your back straight, when it takes more effort? Why indeed. Better to sit back in that bean-bag chair with a drink nearby and call it a day.
As for the article submitter, I'd suggest that if he wants to improve his technique, he'll have to "unlearn" his current one. That means learning (or re-learning) the rules so that he can break them, and then onnly if needed or desired. Stopping and going backwards so that he can move forward again, if you will. Musicians that deviate or otherwise use their own uniquely-inspired variations of standard techniques typically do so after years of pedagogic instruction and careful supervision. The ones that don't are one in a million. Everyone else is forever stuck at some level of mediocre proficiency (impressing friends and family, no doubt) and is talking out their ass.
If you can type anywhere near 100wpm with "non-standard" technique AND your typing is accurate AND your typing is effortless, then you're a one in a million. Changing your technique may offer improvements, but I suspect those improvements will be subtle, and the gains relatively minor. Me, I can probably learn to do a consistent 120wpm. Practically spekaing, though, it's not worth the dedication or the effort, so I generally coast along at 80-90. Laziness and comfort is not something to aspire to (or advocate), but in measured doses, can be a good thing.
Back when men were men, this is what a manly console looked like; http://www.columbia.edu/acis/history/360-91-panel.jpg
The younguns should note the suit and tie. It was how we got things done. That's right. Getting things done required a Real Man wearing a Real Suit And Tie. Or labcoat and tie.
I've experienced the exact opposite problem. I searched both my right and left hip pockets and found nothing at all. Then I realised I don't even own a cell phone.
Next time I'll be more careful. As my dad used to say, "It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man."
That money is not created, it is bled from the rest of the economy ... please do not confuse the exploited creators with the exploitative publishers ... profit and greed is what you claim as their one saving grace ...
LOL. I don't know whether you're a troll, having a bad day, or just can't read. In no way did I claim anything, or espouse any point of view. I merely pointed out that the sum total of what you find so easy to dismiss represents a huge and growing chunk of the economy (i.e., real money and real jobs). Anybody living in the real world knows that when there's money at stake, people sit up and listen to the stakeholders.
My sentiments are inline with yours, but I'd be a fool, as you would be, to think that anyone in power gives a damn about advancing noble causes or has time to listen to vague, handwavy notions of participitory experiences. Their responsibilities are, for better or worse, to maintain things the way they are because everyone is depending on it. And those figures and words I cited? Those are echoed all the way up the food chain. The conversation you're trying to have is just background noise.
You know what else represents a good chunk of our economy? Financial services. Those folks don't make anything either. So if you want to rail against real exploitation, that would be a good place to start. Good luck with that, too.
To be honest the internet is a threat to the digital economy --------- of the middle men, those that contribute nothing but, hmm, bullshit.
Contribute nothing? Perhaps, but consider the following (selected at random from the US Chamber of Commerce website):
So yeah, you could make an argument that such companies contribute nothing, or make nothing, but you'd have to agree there's an awful lot of money and jobs (and corresponding political influence) tied up in those numbers, and without those companies doing the nothing that they do so well, a chunk of the economy goes poof.
It should be noted that Google is not breaking youtube for IE6 users(the poor bastards). Doing so would be pretty stupid ...
Correct on both counts. From the fine article:
Implicit in the approach is an attempt to shame the user. That, combined with the presentation of a list of options (supported browsers) will go a long way to dispel the erroneous notions of folks who associate the internet with the Big Blue "e", or otherwise think the world begins and ends with Microsoft products. Overstated? Perhaps, but if I was Microsoft, I'd prefer not having one of the world's best known companies reminding my customers that my products suck.
Sued for defamation? That's not the half of it!
Someone's got to say it ...
I know people who kept every postcard and letter they'd ever received - I doubt you could say the same about that with email. People still just don't consider email a serious medium.
Which is my point. If digital files aren't considered "serious", how can elaborate backup schemes and distributed network storage amount to anything more than transient (albeit reliable) storage?
The irony is that those letters and diaries of days gone by may not have been considered "serious" either, but they did outlive their original owners.
How long an individual disk or SSD or stone tablet lasts is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to the prospects for information longevity, given the network, and new levels of automated distribution that will take place on it going forward.
I don't know that I agree with that.
Compare, for example, letters written during the Civil War, with email messages sent and received by those involved in either of the Gulf Wars. Which do you think had, at the time they were written, a better chance of being available to future historians?
I'd suggest we are in danger of losing our history. What's odd is how blithe we are about it.
The point is testing this on smaller TLD. We have been working with .ORG and other TLDs to test DNSSEC for a while now. When the time comes for a signed root and .COM and .NET signed, we will be ready.
Less vague (from http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2010-February/009908.html):
If you follow the link for that announcement, you can read more about Bind-specific issues, and Bind issues as they relate to FreeBSD.
I think the question assumes a level of reliability that's typically not available with self hosting. That said, it's hardly unusual for small businesses do just that, with the smarter ones getting redundant connections (from different providers). And yes, those small businesses are limited to the same DSL and cable offerings just like the rest of are either because of geography or affordability issues.
A nitpick. Your "I'm not using running a business" disclaimer is relevant only insofar as you've signed up for a "residential type" of account, and what you meant to say is that you're not running any publically accessible services that may prohibited.
For cable and DSL, the distinctions between residential and business are mostly marketing, though there is a small price premium or added cost for "business class" service however its defined and/or marketed. ATT, for example, will be happy to give you a /29 for an extra $20 or so per month that you can use however you see fit (IIRC, it's called the Elite Plan, or something similarly stupid). Likewise, Time Warner offers fixed IPs on an a la carte basis for a few bucks each.
So self host? Sure. But not for a high volume website, or where downtime can be associated with real money being lost.
Lofty goals. This isn't enforceable, legally or practically. Three strikes and you get kicked off the internet? How?
You underestimate the power of the courts, and the effectiveness of bureauracies. Ever been the subject of a court order, or known someone who has? You'd be surprised at how a simple and seemingly narrow thing can have wide ranging implications. A small claims judgment, court-order child support, or a DUI can bring a lot of third-parties into the mix.
For hypothetical "DMCA Plus" offenses, things could remain simple. A signed order that requires the guilty party to "not use a computer or the internet" would suffice. Pissing off a judge by disregarding his or her order could easily result in, at minimum, increasingly harsh fines or penalties. And losing service from your ISP? Well, how many do you really have to choose from in your area?
The subject of drone pilots was recently covered in a PBS Front Line documentary called Digital Nation, specifically Immersion Training, and Remote Control War.
Worth watching.
I see your username is ElectricTurtle. Let me just look that up.
We have voice control now. It's just annoying, and practically speaking, I don't think current generations want to talk to their computers.
I'm sorry. I didn't quite get that.
If you want to post a comment, say "Comment". If you want to troll, say "Troll". If you're aiming for plus funny, just say "Funny". You can also say things like "Tech Support", or "I Don't Know".
Apparently you've forgotten the dark days of Windows 95 or 98, where you would click on an icon, and have to wait 1-2 minutes for the OS to finish thrashing your HDD, due to not having enough RAM to run properly.
For yucks, install Win95 or Win98 on modern hardware and see how the GUI performs. If the near-instantaneous drawing of windows doesn't startle you, wait till you go back to using your spiffy new box for your regular OS and discover things work a lot slower than you thought.
Back to memory, though. I suspect one of the underlying problems with people understanding how memory is used is how Windows reports things. For most, I guess, that's a field or two in taskmgr.exe. For my money, the output of top on a Unix system is far more useful. From a FreeBSD system:
Doesn't require advanced knowledge to make sense of that ouput, or understand how memory is being used. And no third-party tools required.
Size doesn't matter. There is infinite storage capacity in /dev/null.
Astute observation. For those interested in trying such an approach, note that it's a bitch getting stuff out.
Food is very cheap in comparison to the value of a person's labor
Perhaps in some sense. But you'll have to come up with a way of explaining away why food banks in the US are having trouble meeting the needs of the working poor (this was true before the recent financial crisis), and why it is that the working poor are (still) lining up for food.
Build me a robot that ...
Personally, I'd settle for one that "looked" the part, even if all it did was say "Guy killed me, Mal. He killed me with a sword. How weird is that?" Or something like that.
Plus they can eat prey up to 1.5x their size, so trying to keep it in the bathtub without telling your wife probably isn't going to turn out well...
I keep my eels in a hovercraft. Maybe that would work for squid?
We are all in a global recession. As such, there are no "Glory Days" for anyone anywhere. I wouldn't count Silicon Valley out just yet.
A fair comment, but describing things globally may too generalised. What happens in Silicon Valley does not have to be the same as what happens elsewhere. One data point in the news recently: North Jersey Finds Popularity as Home for Data Centers.
what's the point in it having it's own advert?
On PBS, Nova is sponsored by the Howard Hughes Medical Institute. The NewsHour is funded by Chevron, Intel, BNSF Railway, Bank of America, Toyota, and Monsanto. Other PBS offerings are underwritten by local real estate companies, investment companies, and law firms. In each case, there is no "product" being hawked.
What, for example, does Archer Daniels Midland sell, and where can you buy it? Dunno? Neither do I, but I'm sure they understand why it is they're spending money on advertising (along with the benefits of doing so) better than the rest of us.
Advertise Linux? My opinion is that it's an excellent idea.
And that's the problem when you give your data to the biggest data whore in the known universe.
But you regularly suck on the teat of that giant whore, yes?
It's not just Bing. You have to say BING!!! Like it's a bell. BING!!!
It's time for ...
What's brown and sounds like a bell?