well I am in the same situation as is described here and I would love to have broadband internet. I live near one of the largest cities in Missouri, Columbia, Missouri population 90,000 however due to licensing and franchise rules No other companies can enter the local market besides centurytell. One of the worlds worst telephone companies and ISPs.
Where I live I cant use cellphones as the signal fades out about a mile away. I have to get in the car and drive down to the church a mile away to call anyone on a cell phone. DSL quits around 2 miles away and cable modems services quit 5 miles from me. A doctor who lives on my road has had ISDN service installed at his house but he had to pay $5000 to have the wires installed to his house and pays around $400 a month for service that is only three times faster than dial-up. Missouri and many midwest areas are "serviced"? by local telephone companies that I refer to as ma and pa kettle telephone companies that have the local monopoly and have the local political clout to prevent any other company from entering the market.
Every neighbor of mine uses a different phone company as I live where 4 cities meet. So I have to use a phone card to make a long distance call to call any of my neighbors but I can get on the net and email friends in Australia or europe easier than calling next door. If there were broadband service available in this area I would have to pay not only for the broadband internet service I want but would have to buy a package of television that I don't watch and landline telephone service that I also hope to do without. as well as long distance service that I simply never use. The local ISP uses broadband as a means to drag in customers for its unwanted long distance service.
I have been promised DSL service here for the last 4 years. I am still waiting. Recently two other ISP's have announced they will be offering naked DSL service here "any day now". But has been tied up in court for two years but is now having to install their own telephone switching equipment in order to offer broadband. The funny thing is those in more remote rural counties often do get faster and more available Internet service than we do. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to the availability of Internet service in Missouri.
You do realize that all fileing a lawsuit in federal court actually means is that you have $50 in your pocket you don't need for anything else. You can file suit against god in court if you wish and you can find a way to send the paperwork to serve him notice. Anyone can file suit about anything. It does not mean that this case wont get dismissed for any of several reasons such as showing cause. That you personally were injured by this. Not the "people" or anyone else but you personally were harmed. just what did bush, chaney etc. do to you personally? Did they read your mail? Did they send the IRS,FBI,CIA after you? Get you fired from your job? Shoot your cat? Nope, I didn't think so.
This is simply another example of a useless lawsuit filed either for entertainment purposes or to aid in fundraiseing from the clueless.
For those Americans and others who read this and assume it actually means something. The NDP is a small party full of crackpots and prairie halfwits. Think the US green party added to the moveone.org loons gives you a fairly good idea of what will happen to anything they propose.
Even if this was the greatest Idea in the world most people in other areas than Sask and a few cities in British Columbia will quit listening the second they hear that the NDP was the one that proposed it. This is the fate of most good ideas that are buried in a endless stream of drivel from crazies. After a while people tune out all ideas even the good ones.
Any use of X11 is proof that Gimp is totally unacceptable as a useable graphics program. I'll be happy to use Gimp even with its other many interface failings as soon as they come up with a real OSX (as in non X11) version. Ever wonder why so few mac users use openoffice or gimp? Because their is not as of yet a OSX version. Drop all X11 versions and quit wasteing time on that dog of a version.
sam goodman nemesis@tranquility.net
Anyone want to bet within 6 months of starting this program that it will be extended to things such as gender or ethnic studies or worse yet political science or liberal arts that there is a oversupply of already? This is simply another in a long line of efforts to attempt to buy votes. In Anchorage, Alaska their is a bar called "Chilkoot Charlies" the sign out front says "We steal from the other guys and pass the savings unto you". Well I and most people think that that sign is funny but this is another attempt by congress to do what that bar sign says.
When the Government says they are going to give you something for free put one hand over your wallet and the other over your privates and run like hell. There is nothing that is free in this life and if you wonder who is going to end up paying for this? Just look in the mirror.
I help lots of friends with installing and using software and am a big supporter of OSS. Some OSS works great and nothing in the commercial world can come close such as ffmpegx http://www.ffmpegx.com/, or VLC http://www.videolan.org/vlc/. Some OSS such as gimp and open office though are crap pure and simple.
What is the difference? Well for one thing X11. When someone downloads an OSS app such as VLC or ffmpeg they get a DMG (disk Image) file they click on and a window comes up where they simply drag the icon to their hard drive to install. When they next want to use the app there is an icon they click on. Click on the icon and the app opens and the normal menu items are there where they are used to them. File, Edit, View. The user needs to download no extra files and needs to do no command line commands in the terminal etc.
It simply works and the user needs no instructions either to install or use.
Compare that to open office. They download the file the same as they are used to.
Get a file they have no idea what to do with. Finally go back to the site and are told they must install an X server app but one is available called X11.
Read thru pages of documentation and find that their are several versions of X11 they can install but none of them are at all easy.
Try to find that 3rd disk that came with the OS, find out that they have lost it because they have never opened it because everything else was installed when they bought the computer or had some friend that installed it for them. They call the computer store and are told by some salesperson that yea we can't sell you just a single disk we need to sell you the complete OS in a newer version.
Then they find out by searching online that all the X11 servers are free downloads and they can get them for free but which one to use?
Fink, Darwin ports apples own X server? They find that the file size is huge and comes with a large list of dependences. They have of course never heard of any of these things and so by default try to install everything. Many of these people are on dial up connections. So hours or days later they are left with a bunch of stuff that rival MS office in size and are even more complex. Now they go back and install the open office. It installs like nothing the user has ever seen. And installs it in a place they never knew existed.
Finally they have it installed and open it. Ok where do I open a new document? Go to file? Where is it on this? It isn't at the upper left corner where it is supposed to be. Its attached to the window? What's it doing there? Drag and drop a document on the icon to open it, it won't open. I must have messed up something. Well I guess MS office might be worth the money if it avoids all of this stuff and how do I get rid of fink and X11 and especially open office? If they all work like this I don't want to ever accidentally use any Open Source Software ever again.
I look at any X11 app as a testament to and complete proof that the developers are completely incompetent. I have had about 10 people so far that have tried to install and use Open office. All of them have so far decided to never use any OSS ever again and it's hard to get them to even try any workable OSS apps after trying out an x11 app. I can't say I blame them a bit.
If you want to make a Mac app make a Mac app. If you cant make a Mac app then say so and ask for a real programer to help make one. Don't make a unworkable piece of crap that 1 user in 200 might be able to get running after a fashion and claim oh! It will work on Mac too. All you are doing is making sure that users will go well out of their way to make sure that they will never use any OSS ever again. Its hard to make any Microsoft product look good but when you come up with a X11 app for OSX you are actually driving people towards buying Microsoft and away from Open Source
Actually I'm from Alaska and Senator Stevens gets support from both democrats and republicans here about equally for the same reason. He is well connected in Washington and brinks home the pork. In fact if you mention Senator pork anywhere in Alaska everyone will know instantly who you are talking about. He is also thought of as the Army's senator. Its considered a great trade off we get anything from the feds we want in return for voteing in some doddering fool who would get lost in almost any Alaska town within a short time. He stays in Washington and out of our hair,and thats just the way we like it.
At one time before the Oil boom Alaska's economy depended upon Army and Air force bases to survive.
While that is no longer the case. Its true few ever voted for him for his intelligence and litterly NO ONE has ever voted for him because of his technical expertize.
I think its time you read about american history. The Republican party only dates to slightly before the American Civil War in 1860. Their first presidental candidate was fremont followed by a guy named Abraham Lincoln. The Democrat party only really dates back to Andrew Jackson.
The first two presidents were not elected by party and The Democractic-Republican,Federalist,Anti federalist and Whig parties have fallen by the way side along with most of the smaller parties that while they might have had some local inpact have never managed to grow stong enough to elect a national ticket.
Another and probably better client for DC++ is Valknut, available for both OSX 10.3 panther and 10.4 Tiger here is the Mac precompiled binaries. I have used it for several months without a problem. Im told the linux client is equally good.
http://folk.ntnu.no/chrisj/download/
another DC++ site of intrest
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valknut_(software)
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Where I live I cant use cellphones as the signal fades out about a mile away. I have to get in the car and drive down to the church a mile away to call anyone on a cell phone. DSL quits around 2 miles away and cable modems services quit 5 miles from me. A doctor who lives on my road has had ISDN service installed at his house but he had to pay $5000 to have the wires installed to his house and pays around $400 a month for service that is only three times faster than dial-up. Missouri and many midwest areas are "serviced"? by local telephone companies that I refer to as ma and pa kettle telephone companies that have the local monopoly and have the local political clout to prevent any other company from entering the market.
Every neighbor of mine uses a different phone company as I live where 4 cities meet. So I have to use a phone card to make a long distance call to call any of my neighbors but I can get on the net and email friends in Australia or europe easier than calling next door. If there were broadband service available in this area I would have to pay not only for the broadband internet service I want but would have to buy a package of television that I don't watch and landline telephone service that I also hope to do without. as well as long distance service that I simply never use. The local ISP uses broadband as a means to drag in customers for its unwanted long distance service.
I have been promised DSL service here for the last 4 years. I am still waiting. Recently two other ISP's have announced they will be offering naked DSL service here "any day now". But has been tied up in court for two years but is now having to install their own telephone switching equipment in order to offer broadband. The funny thing is those in more remote rural counties often do get faster and more available Internet service than we do. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to the availability of Internet service in Missouri.
You do realize that all fileing a lawsuit in federal court actually means is that you have $50 in your pocket you don't need for anything else. You can file suit against god in court if you wish and you can find a way to send the paperwork to serve him notice. Anyone can file suit about anything. It does not mean that this case wont get dismissed for any of several reasons such as showing cause. That you personally were injured by this. Not the "people" or anyone else but you personally were harmed. just what did bush, chaney etc. do to you personally? Did they read your mail? Did they send the IRS,FBI,CIA after you? Get you fired from your job? Shoot your cat? Nope, I didn't think so. This is simply another example of a useless lawsuit filed either for entertainment purposes or to aid in fundraiseing from the clueless.
that is the funniest signature line i have seen in years. thanks you have brightened my day
For those Americans and others who read this and assume it actually means something. The NDP is a small party full of crackpots and prairie halfwits. Think the US green party added to the moveone.org loons gives you a fairly good idea of what will happen to anything they propose.
Even if this was the greatest Idea in the world most people in other areas than Sask and a few cities in British Columbia will quit listening the second they hear that the NDP was the one that proposed it. This is the fate of most good ideas that are buried in a endless stream of drivel from crazies. After a while people tune out all ideas even the good ones.
Any use of X11 is proof that Gimp is totally unacceptable as a useable graphics program. I'll be happy to use Gimp even with its other many interface failings as soon as they come up with a real OSX (as in non X11) version. Ever wonder why so few mac users use openoffice or gimp? Because their is not as of yet a OSX version. Drop all X11 versions and quit wasteing time on that dog of a version. sam goodman nemesis@tranquility.net
When the Government says they are going to give you something for free put one hand over your wallet and the other over your privates and run like hell. There is nothing that is free in this life and if you wonder who is going to end up paying for this? Just look in the mirror.
What is the difference? Well for one thing X11. When someone downloads an OSS app such as VLC or ffmpeg they get a DMG (disk Image) file they click on and a window comes up where they simply drag the icon to their hard drive to install. When they next want to use the app there is an icon they click on. Click on the icon and the app opens and the normal menu items are there where they are used to them. File, Edit, View. The user needs to download no extra files and needs to do no command line commands in the terminal etc.
It simply works and the user needs no instructions either to install or use.
Compare that to open office. They download the file the same as they are used to. Get a file they have no idea what to do with. Finally go back to the site and are told they must install an X server app but one is available called X11. Read thru pages of documentation and find that their are several versions of X11 they can install but none of them are at all easy.
Try to find that 3rd disk that came with the OS, find out that they have lost it because they have never opened it because everything else was installed when they bought the computer or had some friend that installed it for them. They call the computer store and are told by some salesperson that yea we can't sell you just a single disk we need to sell you the complete OS in a newer version.
Then they find out by searching online that all the X11 servers are free downloads and they can get them for free but which one to use?
Fink, Darwin ports apples own X server? They find that the file size is huge and comes with a large list of dependences. They have of course never heard of any of these things and so by default try to install everything. Many of these people are on dial up connections. So hours or days later they are left with a bunch of stuff that rival MS office in size and are even more complex. Now they go back and install the open office. It installs like nothing the user has ever seen. And installs it in a place they never knew existed.
Finally they have it installed and open it. Ok where do I open a new document? Go to file? Where is it on this? It isn't at the upper left corner where it is supposed to be. Its attached to the window? What's it doing there? Drag and drop a document on the icon to open it, it won't open. I must have messed up something. Well I guess MS office might be worth the money if it avoids all of this stuff and how do I get rid of fink and X11 and especially open office? If they all work like this I don't want to ever accidentally use any Open Source Software ever again.
I look at any X11 app as a testament to and complete proof that the developers are completely incompetent. I have had about 10 people so far that have tried to install and use Open office. All of them have so far decided to never use any OSS ever again and it's hard to get them to even try any workable OSS apps after trying out an x11 app. I can't say I blame them a bit.
If you want to make a Mac app make a Mac app. If you cant make a Mac app then say so and ask for a real programer to help make one. Don't make a unworkable piece of crap that 1 user in 200 might be able to get running after a fashion and claim oh! It will work on Mac too. All you are doing is making sure that users will go well out of their way to make sure that they will never use any OSS ever again. Its hard to make any Microsoft product look good but when you come up with a X11 app for OSX you are actually driving people towards buying Microsoft and away from Open Source
Actually I'm from Alaska and Senator Stevens gets support from both democrats and republicans here about equally for the same reason. He is well connected in Washington and brinks home the pork. In fact if you mention Senator pork anywhere in Alaska everyone will know instantly who you are talking about. He is also thought of as the Army's senator. Its considered a great trade off we get anything from the feds we want in return for voteing in some doddering fool who would get lost in almost any Alaska town within a short time. He stays in Washington and out of our hair,and thats just the way we like it. At one time before the Oil boom Alaska's economy depended upon Army and Air force bases to survive. While that is no longer the case. Its true few ever voted for him for his intelligence and litterly NO ONE has ever voted for him because of his technical expertize.
I think its time you read about american history. The Republican party only dates to slightly before the American Civil War in 1860. Their first presidental candidate was fremont followed by a guy named Abraham Lincoln. The Democrat party only really dates back to Andrew Jackson. The first two presidents were not elected by party and The Democractic-Republican,Federalist,Anti federalist and Whig parties have fallen by the way side along with most of the smaller parties that while they might have had some local inpact have never managed to grow stong enough to elect a national ticket.
Another and probably better client for DC++ is Valknut, available for both OSX 10.3 panther and 10.4 Tiger here is the Mac precompiled binaries. I have used it for several months without a problem. Im told the linux client is equally good. http://folk.ntnu.no/chrisj/download/ another DC++ site of intrest http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valknut_(software)