Apparently it's one way that school principals are spying on students. They can find out who did what, then hand out punishments accordingly.
In this case it was also motivated by school politics - an ongoing vendeta between her+the school board against a popular teacher who had the vocal support of a lot of the students, whose contract was not renewed.
The problem is more complicated than you make it appear. Quebec has one of the lowest per-capita incomes in all of continental North America - and that's before you add the highest taxes in the world.
So a level of tuition fees that would be affordable anywhere else is going to have a severe impact, because affordability is related directly to after-tax income.
It's true that much of this damage is self-inflicted - Montreal used to be the head-office capital of Canada, but 50 years of language laws (started in 1969, before the Parti Quebecois came to power in the '70s), the resulting migration of almost a million people from Quebec to the Rest of Canada in just a few short years, and the willingness of politicians of all political stripes to play the game and suck up to Quebec Nationalists when votes are at stake are also part of the problem.
It's in the country's best interest that Quebecers get as much education as possible, not just for the same reasonas as anyone else, but also because a more educated workforce is more likely to have to look elsewhere (the rest of Canada) for jobs because they won't be able to use their skills at home.
The dissatisfaction this generates towards the nationalistic/separatist policies of Quebec among French-Quebecers is the REAL reason that the Quebec government doesn't want to increase the level of education - the less education, the less likely you are to leave the province, so the more likely you are to be vulnerable to exploitation by both government and industry (those highest taxes in the world and those lowest after-tax wages in North America).
It's also why the Quebec government made it illegal for French-Quebecers to send their kids to English schools - it reduces the ability of people to look outside the province for jobs, creating a captive labour pool. We saw this in the nurse's strike in the '90s - the nurses had the backing of the public, but the government knew that the majority of nurses, not being able to pass proficiency tests in English to work in another province or another country, would have to settle for crappy work conditions and lower wages than their more mobile counterparts in other provinces.
Historically, this is not new. The US started it the better part of a century ago; US-funded Quebec industries were notorious for treating the french as cheap labour worthy only of exploitation. The only difference is, with a policy of "maitre chez nous" ("master of our house"), it's the political elite (at the rovincial level in Quebec and the Liberal, Conservative, and NDP politicians at the federal level) who do the exploiting now, always saying stuff that appeases enough of the nationalist/separatist faction to get votes, while at the same time giving them legitimacy.
Whether it was Mulroney, Chretien, or Harper, none of them were willing to engage in realpolitik and call the Quebec provincial and Montreal municipal governments corrupt, because they always wanted enough of those "soft nationalist" votes to hold onto power (and because they too were corrupted).
The solution is complicated.
First, Canadians are going to have to reject any more willingness to compromise with anyone who wants to break up the country. Second, get rid of all the hypenated-Canadian talk. We're all just Canadians, not French-Canadians, English-Canadians, Whatever-Canadians. Labels are used by manipulative scoundrels of all political stripes to divide people, highlighting the unimportant differences rather than the important commonality. In other words, kill off multi-culturalism. Multi-culturalism legitimized Quebec nationalism.
Second, the whole country needs to realize that bilingualism is a "good thing." Not only does it help delay the onset of Alzheimers by exercising the brain more, it also helps the country be more competitive internationally, and communicate better internally. Quebec would have to go from being officially french to officially bilingual, same as New Brunswick. Other provinces sh
He just wanted to know whats in, and whats out. Who's having sex and who's not. Who's going out on Friday nights and who's staying in. A principal that truly cares for his pupils. Either that, or he wanted in on those sexy beach pictures the cheer leading captain took with all her friends this summer.
Could you at least read the summary, if not the article? The principal is Louise Losos, a woman.
Most of the claims can't be proven - who goes around recording every phone call they get? It was just luck that someone got it on tape.
For every call that was proven to date, there were probably plenty more that were either forgotten about at the time, missed, ignored, or acted upon and the people figured "why report it - it won't change anything with this gang of crooks."
While we have students rioting in the streets because the government refuses to sit down and talk, we fine out the Education Minister took Mafia money.
The mob skims 5% off the top of all large construction projects, decides who will be "allowed" to bid, and how the contracts will be divied up. This has been going on for at least 40 years.
And of course, this is just the tip of the iceberg.
I had previously done an in-place upgrade from 11.3 to 11.4 with no problems. They only made the conversion of the email format MANDATORY for 12.1, so it only failed then.
The subsequent attempt of a fresh install for 11.4 also mandates the new email format - it's only if you're installing 11.4 as an upgrade that the old format is preserved.
So if you're going to call anyone a moron throwing around BS, it should be yourself. Oh, that's right - another attack by a cowardly freetard who doesn't like it when someone points out problems in their cultish view of open source "perfection".
Open source is every bit as buggy as closed source. Instead of trying to add more useless "features" that introduce new bugs, maybe a year off to just do bug fixes would help.
We're finding that even exposure to less-than-concussive force has an effect. Do you really think it would be ethical to conduct the type of experiment that would be required to answer the question with 100% certainty, or should we not err on the side of caution? How would you want YOUR kids to be treated? Would you wack them on the head to "learn them a good lesson?"
As for boxing, why should we allow two people to do in a ring something that is illegal everywhere else in public - assault and battery with intent to harm? We don't allow dog fights in public or in private. We don't allow snuff films between consenting adults. We do have limits. Boxing has been "grandfathered in" - and it's time to remove that exception.
everybody has to pick and chose to come to some kind of halfway coherent interpretation
You're assuming that people can't hold simultaneous contradictory views... whereas cognitive dissonance is very common.
I'm not sure how you define atheism, but do you think you can disprove the existence of a hypothetical god? If not then I think you either need to stop calling yourself an atheist, or use the same label for him.
I don't have to disprove anything. As an atheist, unlike Dawkins, I completely reject even the possibility of the existence of any sort of god. Dawkins allows for some (low) probability. that's not atheism - that's agnosticism (the belief that we cannot say for certain one way or the other).
As far as I'm concerned any and every claim that there is even a possibility of the existence of one or more gods is extraordinary, and would require extraordinary proof. Instead, we don't see even a smidgen of proof. If you want to get technical, there's more proof that I'm god than that any of the biblical ones is. After all, there is not much doubt that I exist. And, like the "god" of the bible, I to can say "I am that I am." Doesn't mean squat, now does it?
But no evidence on the relative age of chicken eggs
I've got some evidence that addresses exactly that issue - the "best before" date on the end of the egg carton.
Seriously, I must say, I do like your argument - "I believe in evidence". Unfortunately it just shifts the debate over to "what do you believe constitutes evidence".
They do the usual "the new testament covenant vs the old law" thing. And yes, I've met people who believe that "fish are not animals, they're fish!" And people who believe that since I'm an atheist, I must be a communist. Just like Richard Dawkins believes he's an atheist, but he ultimately falls short when he says "why there is almost certainly no god." That's not an atheist - that's an agnostic.
It's actually a good example. There's no copyright protection for ideas, just specific implementations of them, so Microsoft was free to take any ideas they liked from Java (that weren't protected by patents or trademarks) and incorporate them into any language they choose - same as anyone else can.
The point is that cumulative brain damage is not the sort of thing that any child should be having to make a decision about. There is no "safe" level of brain damage, last time I looked. Football and boxing should be banned, not just in schools but at all levels, including "pro."
Boxing is especially execrable - where's the "sport" in beating your opponent unconscious?
You missed the entire point - you do not need a license to implement a java runtime - the license is for the use of the Java name, the coffe-cup logo, certification that your implementation meets the requirements of the TCK, etc.
In addition, Java was fragmentted by SUN. Java ME (mobile edition) is an absolute mess, with major incompatibilities, so the entire "OMG Android fragments the java platform" argument is a lie. It's even more of a lie because Android is not Java.
Sun's former CEO has testified that there's no problem with people making unlicensed implementations - the java language is open and free for anyone to use. Oracle has stipulated in court that this is true. Same as the c language is open and free for anyone to use. Same as if you're not happy with the c++ STL, you're free to implement your own version (and there are multiple implementations of the STL). BASIC. Pascal. C#. While you can copyright an implementation, you cannot copyright the idea behind the implementation, any more than you can copyright the rules of a game.
As for Android being commercial - so what? Anyone is free to implement a Java-to-whatever translator, just as Google bought a Java-to-dalvik translator called Android. Just like you're free to implement a BASIC-to-c translator, or a Java-to-c translator. The language is free for anyone to use. Even Oracle has agreed - in court - that this is the case.
Oracle thought they'd get a big payday from patents, but most of those have been struck down by the USPTO reviews, so now they're down to whining about stupidity like 9 lines in a sort routine that aren't even theirs - they were imported from the timsort routine in python.
Remember, the issue is that Google used the Java specification to create a competing virtual machine, not that Google used the Java APIs to create a Java application.
There are plenty of competing virtual machines. IBM made one, Kaffe is another. GNU classpath is yet another. BTW - dalvik is not a java virtual machine. It can't run Java programs.
... but Eve already had her full complement of egg folicles at the time of her creation. While men create new sperm through out their lifetime, it doesn't work the same for women, which is why exposure to teratogenic chemicals, radiation, etc., has much more devastating consequences - it's cumulative.
BTW - anyone can already make an incompatible implementation of Java - just so long as they don't call it Java. Oracle has already conceded this point.
After all, if all APIs are copyrightable, IBM wants to talk to Oracle about royalties for SQL.
And Dennis Ritchie's estate would like to talk to them about all the royalties they need to cough up for using the c standard library.
And Bjarne Stroustrup and Bell Labs want to talk to them about royalties for using classes, and the whole dot syntax, and the whole of Java being just a poor man's c++.
There is absolutely no way that Oracle is going to win this one - even they know that the immediate consequences would be disasterous for them, as the whole world drops Java for anything else.
Teens who take risks in relatively safe situations exercise the circuitry and develop the skills to âoeput on the brakesâ in more dangerous situations."
What a complete and utter lie. Kids who "get away with something" once not only tend to repeat the risky behaviour - they encourage their peers to. After all, they've "proven" that it's safe.
Case in point - one of the kids at my daughter's school died of sniffing PAM. While the media tried to portray it as a first-time accidental sort of thing, the fact was that he had been doing it for a while, and trying to get other kids to join him.
We see the same pattern with kids huffing gasoline, street racing in their riced-up cars, "couch surfing" (tying a couch to the back of a car with a long rope and driving along the highway - doesn't turn out so well when the couch goes into the oncoming lane).
The endorphin rush from beating the odds of risky behaviour just increases the "need" to get that endorphin high by engaging in more risky behaviur - until the odds catch up. The house always wins in the long run.
Prior to the fall, there was no such thing as mating, and hence there wouldn't be eggs.
Where does it say there was no sex before the fall? It seems to me that there would have been lots of it - all risk-free, no worries about the kids walking in, etc. The forbidden fruit was the knowledge of good and evil - not the knowledge of sex.
Genesis 2:24 - the whole "and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." - before the fall - that "one flesh" sounds like doing the double-backed monster to me.
Also, where does it say that eggs or reproduction are required for sex?
You're telling me they wouldn't be able to understand the simple sentence, "this may have permanent future consequences?" They understand it, whether they pay attention to it or not is up to them and their parents.
While a 13-year-old might "understand" it in a purely academic sense, they don't have the experience to comprehend the full implications. And if the consequences really are bad enough that they should involve only those with informed consent, then they are already at the point where they should not be allowed for minors to be making the decisions.
According to your theory, they should also be given unfettered access to alcohol during school hours - after all, as long as they can at some level "understand the consequences", it's okay for them to do it in school.
Your theory leaves no accounting for either parental guidance, role models, and the fact that individual students have different maturation paths. It also fails to account for peer and teacher pressure. Even adults succumb to peer pressure - look at the behaviour of mobs.
Hang on - creation basically says "god made chickens"
Um... no, it doesn't. Since creationists take the bible literally, and since chickens aren't one of the animals listed as being created fully formed, she must have created chicken eggs.
(nobody actually does that with the whole text, there are no real literalists, only people who haven't read it all)
How strange, because I've run into people who *do* take the whole mish-mash literally (which is, of course, their right). And this isn't just limited to Xians. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
As for me, I'm still waiting for the cross between the chicken and the octopus - everyone gets a drumstick!
And yet studies show that soccer players who header the ball also experience cognitive loss (I posted one example further up-thread). And unlike football players, soccer players don't have any head protection. You don't have to get a concussion to have damage.
Objective: To determine the presence of chronic traumatic brain injury in professional soccer players.
Methods: Fifty-three active professional soccer players from several professional Dutch soccer clubs were compared with a control group of 27 elite noncontact sport athletes. All participants underwent neuropsychological examination. The main outcome measures were neuropsychological tests proven to be sensitive to cognitive changes incurred during contact and collision sports.
Results: The professional soccer players exhibited impaired performances in memory, planning, and visuoperceptual processing when compared with control subjects. Among professional soccer players, performance on memory, planning, and visuoperceptual tasks were inversely related to the number of concussions incurred in soccer and the frequency of "heading" the ball. Performance on neuropsychological testing also varied according to field position, with forward and defensive players exhibiting more impairment.
Conclusion: Participation in professional soccer may affect adversely some aspects of cognitive functioning (i.e., memory, planning, and visuoperceptual processing).
If it happens in adults, isn't it also likely to happen in kids? They may be hard-headed at times, but still...
I wonder how long is it going to take before this turns into a "which came first, the chicken or the egg?" debate.
If you believe in evolution, the answer is obvious - the egg. There were dinosaur eggs long before there were chickens.
If you believe in creation, the answer is obvious - the egg. Because nothing, including chickens, can "evolve" from something else, so chickens come from chicken eggs, same as fish come from fish eggs and donuts come from those donut seeds you find inside every box of Cheerios.
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In this case it was also motivated by school politics - an ongoing vendeta between her+the school board against a popular teacher who had the vocal support of a lot of the students, whose contract was not renewed.
The problem is more complicated than you make it appear. Quebec has one of the lowest per-capita incomes in all of continental North America - and that's before you add the highest taxes in the world.
So a level of tuition fees that would be affordable anywhere else is going to have a severe impact, because affordability is related directly to after-tax income.
It's true that much of this damage is self-inflicted - Montreal used to be the head-office capital of Canada, but 50 years of language laws (started in 1969, before the Parti Quebecois came to power in the '70s), the resulting migration of almost a million people from Quebec to the Rest of Canada in just a few short years, and the willingness of politicians of all political stripes to play the game and suck up to Quebec Nationalists when votes are at stake are also part of the problem.
It's in the country's best interest that Quebecers get as much education as possible, not just for the same reasonas as anyone else, but also because a more educated workforce is more likely to have to look elsewhere (the rest of Canada) for jobs because they won't be able to use their skills at home.
The dissatisfaction this generates towards the nationalistic/separatist policies of Quebec among French-Quebecers is the REAL reason that the Quebec government doesn't want to increase the level of education - the less education, the less likely you are to leave the province, so the more likely you are to be vulnerable to exploitation by both government and industry (those highest taxes in the world and those lowest after-tax wages in North America).
It's also why the Quebec government made it illegal for French-Quebecers to send their kids to English schools - it reduces the ability of people to look outside the province for jobs, creating a captive labour pool. We saw this in the nurse's strike in the '90s - the nurses had the backing of the public, but the government knew that the majority of nurses, not being able to pass proficiency tests in English to work in another province or another country, would have to settle for crappy work conditions and lower wages than their more mobile counterparts in other provinces.
Historically, this is not new. The US started it the better part of a century ago; US-funded Quebec industries were notorious for treating the french as cheap labour worthy only of exploitation. The only difference is, with a policy of "maitre chez nous" ("master of our house"), it's the political elite (at the rovincial level in Quebec and the Liberal, Conservative, and NDP politicians at the federal level) who do the exploiting now, always saying stuff that appeases enough of the nationalist/separatist faction to get votes, while at the same time giving them legitimacy.
Whether it was Mulroney, Chretien, or Harper, none of them were willing to engage in realpolitik and call the Quebec provincial and Montreal municipal governments corrupt, because they always wanted enough of those "soft nationalist" votes to hold onto power (and because they too were corrupted).
The solution is complicated.
First, Canadians are going to have to reject any more willingness to compromise with anyone who wants to break up the country. Second, get rid of all the hypenated-Canadian talk. We're all just Canadians, not French-Canadians, English-Canadians, Whatever-Canadians. Labels are used by manipulative scoundrels of all political stripes to divide people, highlighting the unimportant differences rather than the important commonality. In other words, kill off multi-culturalism. Multi-culturalism legitimized Quebec nationalism.
Second, the whole country needs to realize that bilingualism is a "good thing." Not only does it help delay the onset of Alzheimers by exercising the brain more, it also helps the country be more competitive internationally, and communicate better internally. Quebec would have to go from being officially french to officially bilingual, same as New Brunswick. Other provinces sh
Could you at least read the summary, if not the article? The principal is Louise Losos, a woman.
Most of the claims can't be proven - who goes around recording every phone call they get? It was just luck that someone got it on tape.
For every call that was proven to date, there were probably plenty more that were either forgotten about at the time, missed, ignored, or acted upon and the people figured "why report it - it won't change anything with this gang of crooks."
We have the second-largest province by population basically run by the Mafia, and the RCMP wanting to keep the evidence away from an official inquiry.
While we have students rioting in the streets because the government refuses to sit down and talk, we fine out the Education Minister took Mafia money.
The mob skims 5% off the top of all large construction projects, decides who will be "allowed" to bid, and how the contracts will be divied up. This has been going on for at least 40 years.
And of course, this is just the tip of the iceberg.
The subsequent attempt of a fresh install for 11.4 also mandates the new email format - it's only if you're installing 11.4 as an upgrade that the old format is preserved.
So if you're going to call anyone a moron throwing around BS, it should be yourself. Oh, that's right - another attack by a cowardly freetard who doesn't like it when someone points out problems in their cultish view of open source "perfection".
Open source is every bit as buggy as closed source. Instead of trying to add more useless "features" that introduce new bugs, maybe a year off to just do bug fixes would help.
We're finding that even exposure to less-than-concussive force has an effect. Do you really think it would be ethical to conduct the type of experiment that would be required to answer the question with 100% certainty, or should we not err on the side of caution? How would you want YOUR kids to be treated? Would you wack them on the head to "learn them a good lesson?"
As for boxing, why should we allow two people to do in a ring something that is illegal everywhere else in public - assault and battery with intent to harm? We don't allow dog fights in public or in private. We don't allow snuff films between consenting adults. We do have limits. Boxing has been "grandfathered in" - and it's time to remove that exception.
You're assuming that people can't hold simultaneous contradictory views ... whereas cognitive dissonance is very common.
I don't have to disprove anything. As an atheist, unlike Dawkins, I completely reject even the possibility of the existence of any sort of god. Dawkins allows for some (low) probability. that's not atheism - that's agnosticism (the belief that we cannot say for certain one way or the other).
As far as I'm concerned any and every claim that there is even a possibility of the existence of one or more gods is extraordinary, and would require extraordinary proof. Instead, we don't see even a smidgen of proof. If you want to get technical, there's more proof that I'm god than that any of the biblical ones is. After all, there is not much doubt that I exist. And, like the "god" of the bible, I to can say "I am that I am." Doesn't mean squat, now does it?
I've got some evidence that addresses exactly that issue - the "best before" date on the end of the egg carton.
Seriously, I must say, I do like your argument - "I believe in evidence". Unfortunately it just shifts the debate over to "what do you believe constitutes evidence".
They do the usual "the new testament covenant vs the old law" thing. And yes, I've met people who believe that "fish are not animals, they're fish!" And people who believe that since I'm an atheist, I must be a communist. Just like Richard Dawkins believes he's an atheist, but he ultimately falls short when he says "why there is almost certainly no god." That's not an atheist - that's an agnostic.
It's actually a good example. There's no copyright protection for ideas, just specific implementations of them, so Microsoft was free to take any ideas they liked from Java (that weren't protected by patents or trademarks) and incorporate them into any language they choose - same as anyone else can.
Boxing is especially execrable - where's the "sport" in beating your opponent unconscious?
You missed the entire point - you do not need a license to implement a java runtime - the license is for the use of the Java name, the coffe-cup logo, certification that your implementation meets the requirements of the TCK, etc.
In addition, Java was fragmentted by SUN. Java ME (mobile edition) is an absolute mess, with major incompatibilities, so the entire "OMG Android fragments the java platform" argument is a lie. It's even more of a lie because Android is not Java.
Sun's former CEO has testified that there's no problem with people making unlicensed implementations - the java language is open and free for anyone to use. Oracle has stipulated in court that this is true. Same as the c language is open and free for anyone to use. Same as if you're not happy with the c++ STL, you're free to implement your own version (and there are multiple implementations of the STL). BASIC. Pascal. C#. While you can copyright an implementation, you cannot copyright the idea behind the implementation, any more than you can copyright the rules of a game.
As for Android being commercial - so what? Anyone is free to implement a Java-to-whatever translator, just as Google bought a Java-to-dalvik translator called Android. Just like you're free to implement a BASIC-to-c translator, or a Java-to-c translator. The language is free for anyone to use. Even Oracle has agreed - in court - that this is the case.
Oracle thought they'd get a big payday from patents, but most of those have been struck down by the USPTO reviews, so now they're down to whining about stupidity like 9 lines in a sort routine that aren't even theirs - they were imported from the timsort routine in python.
There are plenty of competing virtual machines. IBM made one, Kaffe is another. GNU classpath is yet another. BTW - dalvik is not a java virtual machine. It can't run Java programs.
... but Eve already had her full complement of egg folicles at the time of her creation. While men create new sperm through out their lifetime, it doesn't work the same for women, which is why exposure to teratogenic chemicals, radiation, etc., has much more devastating consequences - it's cumulative.
BTW - anyone can already make an incompatible implementation of Java - just so long as they don't call it Java. Oracle has already conceded this point.
And Dennis Ritchie's estate would like to talk to them about all the royalties they need to cough up for using the c standard library.
And Bjarne Stroustrup and Bell Labs want to talk to them about royalties for using classes, and the whole dot syntax, and the whole of Java being just a poor man's c++.
There is absolutely no way that Oracle is going to win this one - even they know that the immediate consequences would be disasterous for them, as the whole world drops Java for anything else.
What a complete and utter lie. Kids who "get away with something" once not only tend to repeat the risky behaviour - they encourage their peers to. After all, they've "proven" that it's safe.
Case in point - one of the kids at my daughter's school died of sniffing PAM. While the media tried to portray it as a first-time accidental sort of thing, the fact was that he had been doing it for a while, and trying to get other kids to join him.
We see the same pattern with kids huffing gasoline, street racing in their riced-up cars, "couch surfing" (tying a couch to the back of a car with a long rope and driving along the highway - doesn't turn out so well when the couch goes into the oncoming lane).
The endorphin rush from beating the odds of risky behaviour just increases the "need" to get that endorphin high by engaging in more risky behaviur - until the odds catch up. The house always wins in the long run.
Where does it say there was no sex before the fall? It seems to me that there would have been lots of it - all risk-free, no worries about the kids walking in, etc. The forbidden fruit was the knowledge of good and evil - not the knowledge of sex.
Genesis 2:24 - the whole "and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." - before the fall - that "one flesh" sounds like doing the double-backed monster to me.
Also, where does it say that eggs or reproduction are required for sex?
While a 13-year-old might "understand" it in a purely academic sense, they don't have the experience to comprehend the full implications. And if the consequences really are bad enough that they should involve only those with informed consent, then they are already at the point where they should not be allowed for minors to be making the decisions.
According to your theory, they should also be given unfettered access to alcohol during school hours - after all, as long as they can at some level "understand the consequences", it's okay for them to do it in school.
Your theory leaves no accounting for either parental guidance, role models, and the fact that individual students have different maturation paths. It also fails to account for peer and teacher pressure. Even adults succumb to peer pressure - look at the behaviour of mobs.
Um ... no, it doesn't. Since creationists take the bible literally, and since chickens aren't one of the animals listed as being created fully formed, she must have created chicken eggs.
How strange, because I've run into people who *do* take the whole mish-mash literally (which is, of course, their right). And this isn't just limited to Xians. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
As for me, I'm still waiting for the cross between the chicken and the octopus - everyone gets a drumstick!
First,that is absolutely not true. 13-year-olds are not going to understand the long-term effects of brain injuries.
Second, they also aren't going to have the wherewithal to say NO when a teacher tells them to play a game where head injuries can result.
Teenagers think they're invulnerable.
And yet studies show that soccer players who header the ball also experience cognitive loss (I posted one example further up-thread). And unlike football players, soccer players don't have any head protection. You don't have to get a concussion to have damage.
If it happens in adults, isn't it also likely to happen in kids? They may be hard-headed at times, but still ...
If you believe in evolution, the answer is obvious - the egg. There were dinosaur eggs long before there were chickens.
If you believe in creation, the answer is obvious - the egg. Because nothing, including chickens, can "evolve" from something else, so chickens come from chicken eggs, same as fish come from fish eggs and donuts come from those donut seeds you find inside every box of Cheerios.