It sure is! Unfortunately, we're a republic. Apparently this fact means that our constitution is a nothing more than a set of decent but arguable suggestions.
So I'm ignorant and am not exactly sure what the FBI can determine from my financial records, but I'm still annoyed over this. This seemingly recent trend of similar bills should be cause for alarm. I know we're a republic, but it's still a democratic republic, dammit. I consider one of my personal best interests the right to privacy. I'm not a politician, so why am I subject to the same scrutiny?
I wouldn't even mind so much if Apple charged extra to ship a "nicer" two button mouse. But a lot of college kids I know got Dells as graduation gifts, and most came with two button ball-mice (they didn't even have scrollwheels).
Granted, though. You can go out and buy almost any USB mouse you want and use it instead. I have several Logitech optical wheelmice scattered here and there to plug into my iBook. It seems the mouse issue isn't a huge one, merely an annoyance.
Hey, at least they don't ship those god-awful hockeypucks with the G5s.
I'm sorry, I've been confused from the original documentation that came with my OS X 10.0 disc. A quick check of their website reveals this:
The most widely-distributed UNIX-based operating system, Mac OS X offers a unique combination of technical elements to the discerning geek, such as the fine-grained multithreading of the Mach 3.0 kernel, tight hardware integration and SMP-safe drivers, as well as zero configuration networking. Panther integrates features from state-of-the-art FreeBSD 5 into Darwin, the Open Source base of Mac OS X, to provide enhanced performance, compatibility and usability.
I wasn't wrong in assuming BSD features, but you're right; it looks like it's built on a Mach 3.0 kernel, not BSD.
I absolutely agree. And funny that it should happen after they've finally fully embraced open souce (OSX). Let THAT be a lesson to the MS-Rest of the world.
Hey, I'm no the engineer. I don't question the guys when I'm on the operating table. If they think that's the best place, then so be it. It's not like there aren't other really important body parts in the vacinity. I, for one, will trust my re-creators.
So do these things have good tensile strength if you pack them in bundles? Because when they rebuild me, I want them to use nanotubes. They're definitely the "in" thing right now. Just imagine...legs that can literally "remember."
South Park had it right: "If you don't like the home team, get the hell out of the stadium."
The point has been made that we're not forced to come here. I understand concern over homeland policies though. If and when the system is abused, well, we'll cross that bridge when we get there. Hopefully we'll be putting the right person in office next year. It'll be interesting to see if this becomes a hot issue.
I already said...if these systems were deployed generally in public, I'd have a problem with it. Yes. I'm just saying I don't believe this is part of some huge conspiracy to track us. If you buy all the theories, you probably believe they already have other ways of doing this.
The technology CAN be abused. The fact that we know it exists and where they use it is good. If you really don't like it, I don't think anybody will fault you for taking the bus or train.
Well, that could be...maybe they do file and track this, but how is it any different from them obtaining your name from check-in records maintained by the airlines? It seems to me like it's nothing more than a redundant system to keep us safe while we're flying. I only fly a few times a year, but considering I'm not breaking any laws and that the government can already get our names from us checking in at the counter before we board our flight, and again when we actually get on the plane, I still don't see why this is such a big issue.
I suppose I might, but when I was a kid my folks took me down to be fingerprinted. I always assumed it wasn't any different than the census. And now I'm honestly wondering...do they still require this? I figured if you were a citizen, your fingerprints were on file. That's why I don't personally have a problem with this.
I don't think this is a problem. I see how some people think this might be an invasion of privacy, and hey, if they put this thing in random public places, especially without letting us know, yes I'd be upset. But this is in AIRPORTS. You're required to check in before you ever get on the plane anyway. I think it's just another means of making sure that people who are on these planes really are who they say they are. That can't be a bad thing.
it dosent matter which performa you want to talk about they were either 16mhz 68030 or 25mhz 68030 or 25mhz 68040 so I dont know how you will even expect to boot the CD on them to start "install"
It's a 637CD, actually. I mentioned it because it's based on that 68040 (technically the 68LC040, which lacks the FPU), the same chip used in the LC series which I was originally talking about. Pop in a PPC upgrade (100MHz) and you're up to OS 8.1 (supported) but technically, stip down 9 and it WILL work; granted there are some mods that simply won't run on this chipset, but it looks, acts, and feels like 9. It says it's 9. It's still 8 with some 9 features. But when it says "OS9," I'll claim 9.
But I have to give you that it isn't fully OS9. Not 100%. Granted, that is a stretch.
Second, here is the LC520 itself. It's about 10 years old, a 25MHz 68030 CPU, one cryptic expansion slot, no ethernet. No more needs to be said.
Actually, that expansion slot was typically filled with one of two things:
A) an extra logic card which basically just increased the power of the math coprocessor, and
B) an ethernet adaptor.
I have both onhand; the ethernet is actually a 10BaseT and works fairly well; the software was the problem, but after actually getting System7 to run I was online and surfing (albeit very slowly).
Considering the kernel for which Xgrid was written, though, is it unreasonable to consider that a person might be able to work with a custom, stripped down compile of BSD? Granted, there would have to be a few necessary X modules, but what I'm wondering is if a person would have to go your route (writing the trick bios, etc.) or if it would be easier just to start with BSD and build from scratch?
Well, for what it's worth, people are compiling some very cool things these days; why not drop modules in the kernel until it works? I think it's worth a shot at least. Definitely a weekend project (or many, many weekends).
If it works, just think of all the happy legacy owners!
Kill practically everything you don't need in the kernel (which is a lot). I've made OS9 work with Performas. Of course I haven't tried yet with the 520, but if RedHat9 runs on a 66DX, why not OSX on an LC with an extra logic card? Yes, it's a helluva stretch. If it works, I'll do a write-up on it. If not, no huge loss, I'm just back at square one.
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It sure is! Unfortunately, we're a republic. Apparently this fact means that our constitution is a nothing more than a set of decent but arguable suggestions.
Damon,
So I'm ignorant and am not exactly sure what the FBI can determine from my financial records, but I'm still annoyed over this. This seemingly recent trend of similar bills should be cause for alarm. I know we're a republic, but it's still a democratic republic, dammit. I consider one of my personal best interests the right to privacy. I'm not a politician, so why am I subject to the same scrutiny?
Damon,
Did your boss pay extra?
I wouldn't even mind so much if Apple charged extra to ship a "nicer" two button mouse. But a lot of college kids I know got Dells as graduation gifts, and most came with two button ball-mice (they didn't even have scrollwheels).
Granted, though. You can go out and buy almost any USB mouse you want and use it instead. I have several Logitech optical wheelmice scattered here and there to plug into my iBook. It seems the mouse issue isn't a huge one, merely an annoyance.
Hey, at least they don't ship those god-awful hockeypucks with the G5s.
I'm sorry, I've been confused from the original documentation that came with my OS X 10.0 disc. A quick check of their website reveals this:
The most widely-distributed UNIX-based operating system, Mac OS X offers a unique combination of technical elements to the discerning geek, such as the fine-grained multithreading of the Mach 3.0 kernel, tight hardware integration and SMP-safe drivers, as well as zero configuration networking. Panther integrates features from state-of-the-art FreeBSD 5 into Darwin, the Open Source base of Mac OS X, to provide enhanced performance, compatibility and usability.
I wasn't wrong in assuming BSD features, but you're right; it looks like it's built on a Mach 3.0 kernel, not BSD.
You learn something new every day.
Damon,
I won't argue with you there. I love the Apple mouse; I'd love it more with two buttons. As it stands, I'll just keep using CTRL+click.
embraced I never said OS X is open source. I said Apple embraced open source and then mentioned OS X, which is built on a BSD kernel.
That one may only have one button, but it's of much higher build quality than the cheap two-button mice shipped by oh, say, Dell.
I absolutely agree. And funny that it should happen after they've finally fully embraced open souce (OSX). Let THAT be a lesson to the MS-Rest of the world.
Damon,
You know, you're obviously right. ;)
Thanks for the link, though. Looks like some good reading.
Hey, I'm no the engineer. I don't question the guys when I'm on the operating table. If they think that's the best place, then so be it. It's not like there aren't other really important body parts in the vacinity. I, for one, will trust my re-creators.
Damon,
Elementary, my dear Watson - BACKUP!!
One step closer!
We can rebuild him. We have the technology.
So do these things have good tensile strength if you pack them in bundles? Because when they rebuild me, I want them to use nanotubes. They're definitely the "in" thing right now. Just imagine...legs that can literally "remember."
Damon,
Illegal aliens?
South Park had it right: "If you don't like the home team, get the hell out of the stadium."
The point has been made that we're not forced to come here. I understand concern over homeland policies though. If and when the system is abused, well, we'll cross that bridge when we get there. Hopefully we'll be putting the right person in office next year. It'll be interesting to see if this becomes a hot issue.
Damon,
I already said...if these systems were deployed generally in public, I'd have a problem with it. Yes. I'm just saying I don't believe this is part of some huge conspiracy to track us. If you buy all the theories, you probably believe they already have other ways of doing this.
The technology CAN be abused. The fact that we know it exists and where they use it is good. If you really don't like it, I don't think anybody will fault you for taking the bus or train.
Damon,
Well, that could be...maybe they do file and track this, but how is it any different from them obtaining your name from check-in records maintained by the airlines? It seems to me like it's nothing more than a redundant system to keep us safe while we're flying. I only fly a few times a year, but considering I'm not breaking any laws and that the government can already get our names from us checking in at the counter before we board our flight, and again when we actually get on the plane, I still don't see why this is such a big issue.
Damon,
I suppose I might, but when I was a kid my folks took me down to be fingerprinted. I always assumed it wasn't any different than the census. And now I'm honestly wondering...do they still require this? I figured if you were a citizen, your fingerprints were on file. That's why I don't personally have a problem with this.
Damon,
I don't think this is a problem. I see how some people think this might be an invasion of privacy, and hey, if they put this thing in random public places, especially without letting us know, yes I'd be upset. But this is in AIRPORTS. You're required to check in before you ever get on the plane anyway. I think it's just another means of making sure that people who are on these planes really are who they say they are. That can't be a bad thing.
Damon,
*Bows* thank you very much. It's too easy to get taken seriously around here.
it dosent matter which performa you want to talk about they were either 16mhz 68030 or 25mhz 68030 or 25mhz 68040 so I dont know how you will even expect to boot the CD on them to start "install"
It's a 637CD, actually. I mentioned it because it's based on that 68040 (technically the 68LC040, which lacks the FPU), the same chip used in the LC series which I was originally talking about. Pop in a PPC upgrade (100MHz) and you're up to OS 8.1 (supported) but technically, stip down 9 and it WILL work; granted there are some mods that simply won't run on this chipset, but it looks, acts, and feels like 9. It says it's 9. It's still 8 with some 9 features. But when it says "OS9," I'll claim 9.
But I have to give you that it isn't fully OS9. Not 100%. Granted, that is a stretch.
Damon,
Second, here is the LC520 itself. It's about 10 years old, a 25MHz 68030 CPU, one cryptic expansion slot, no ethernet. No more needs to be said.
Actually, that expansion slot was typically filled with one of two things:
A) an extra logic card which basically just increased the power of the math coprocessor, and
B) an ethernet adaptor.
I have both onhand; the ethernet is actually a 10BaseT and works fairly well; the software was the problem, but after actually getting System7 to run I was online and surfing (albeit very slowly).
Damon,
Considering the kernel for which Xgrid was written, though, is it unreasonable to consider that a person might be able to work with a custom, stripped down compile of BSD? Granted, there would have to be a few necessary X modules, but what I'm wondering is if a person would have to go your route (writing the trick bios, etc.) or if it would be easier just to start with BSD and build from scratch?
Damon,
Looks cool; I'll check it out. Thanks!
Well, true, the usefulness of such a project would well remain to be discovered. I want to do it simply to see if it can be done. No harm in that!
And hey, if it can, private labs will have a use for all those older G3s lying around. You have to start somewhere.
Damon,
Well, for what it's worth, people are compiling some very cool things these days; why not drop modules in the kernel until it works? I think it's worth a shot at least. Definitely a weekend project (or many, many weekends).
If it works, just think of all the happy legacy owners!
Damon,
OSX on an LC520?
Kill practically everything you don't need in the kernel (which is a lot). I've made OS9 work with Performas. Of course I haven't tried yet with the 520, but if RedHat9 runs on a 66DX, why not OSX on an LC with an extra logic card? Yes, it's a helluva stretch. If it works, I'll do a write-up on it. If not, no huge loss, I'm just back at square one.
Damon,