You still do not get it. The only thing Belkin's mistake (url redirect) has in common with Parental Control is that it happened to bring up a sign up page for Parental Control (it could have brought up the greatest thing since sliced bread and I still would have mentioned it). I was not trying to make parental control relevant to the conversation.
CONTRARY EVIDENCE SUPPLIED HERE: "BTW, the Parental Control Feature is fairly innovative"(See you made me quote myself again)... BTW commonly used in forums and chats means "By the way" as in possibly not relevant, applicable, or remotely related to current subject.
Case closed counselor (hopefully, but I doubt it).
The fact that I agreed with 100% of the other posters is not relevant as 99% of them had never used a Belkin router before making their comments. My comments came from a position of truly understanding the nature and scope of the problem. I believed my comments added some well needed information that/. users might appreciate. I am sorry that you did not, but you can't please everyone.
Nonetheless, way to keep gripping. Seems our side rant should best be put to rest. So please let me sum up what we have learned in the aforementioned rant.
1. Belkin screwed the pooch on this one
2. It is almost a crime as great as the Holocaust (not really, just a bit of exaggerated comparison meant to grab your attention, much like redirecting urls)
3. Parental Control is not relevant to the discussion
4. BTW means By the way
5. Principal is the guy's office you tried to avoid in high school.
6. Understanding the principles of the matter is priceless.
7. My sarcasm about your mental strength was not a personal attack just as your sarcasm about Hitler science experiments was not true comparison.
Well now that we've moved from Holocaust to cell phone service charges, I figure we may end up on comparing my initial post to getting a piece of junk toy in a great tasting box of Kracker Jacks.
Nonetheless, if I may quote myself (first time ever... hopefully the last). From initial post: "Belkin obviously was mistaken to redirect ANY url request"... "Belkin does need to (and looks like they are gonna) step up, re-tool, fix and move on.". If that sounds like the principle is lost on me then let me make an exaggerated comparison... You are as deaf, dumb and blind as Helen Keller (my apologies to all the deaf, dumb and blind people - I know this puts you down more than digitalvengence).
Please let two concurrent and unrelated thoughts coexist in your brain. 1) Belkin made bad mistake, must fix problem. 2) Parental Control cool for Privacy advocates.
It is good to see that you "analyze" your spelling.
The principle of the matter is not lost on me. I feel the need to place it in scope and use the tried and true method of research to understand the true scope so that exaggerations do not dilute the issue. I do hope that Belkin responds appropriately.
BTW, don't take my word on all of this. Analyze for yourself.
Stayed tuned. Parental Control ip traffic analysis is coming.
Way to relate the Holocaust with a sign-up page. I am sure that the millions that died appreciate your insight. Your obvious asinine comments only prove my point. But please do flame on.
BTW, I do not see the "advertisement methodology". They are (in a poor manner) asking if you would like to sign up for a feature displayed on the box. That is not an ad. Focus on the issue. Redirecting of any url request is bad.
When did slashdot.org member become a bunch of flamers? Do the research. Become informed. Make insightful comments.
Belkin obviously was mistaken to redirect ANY url request, but if you would have bothered to check the behavior of this you would have found a couple interesting things. First, the url redirect apparently only happens at the start of a new http session. Those of you downloading the cure for cancer for you children need not be alarmed. Your precious cargo will not be mingled with a Parental Control Sign-up page. That's right folks, it is a signup page. Not that it makes right. Belkin does need to (and looks like they are gonna) step up, re-tool, fix and move on. Second, no active http sessions are interrupted (at least during the last 10 hours I have been probing... picked up the Register article some time ago... never got around to playing with it). Do not fear, your porn will come thru without a redirect Theoretically, I suppose if you allow pop-ups and other such scripts to run then those new http sessions may be tagged for the redirect... at least in theory.
BTW, the Parental Control feature is fairly innovative. Privacy advocates like yourselves should check it out, provide criticism and help good ideas evolve. It is a good way to keep your unsuspecting spouses and children away from the true internet vultures out there that try to do real harm.
Bottom line... If someone from Belkin reads this (and you can bet the farm they are) I suggest the following. Add the Parental Control Sign-up to your "EZ Install" process. If you are afraid of losing potential Parental Control customers then make the first attempt o log into YOUR ROUTER prompt your trusting customers for permission to sign them up for Parental control next time the router gets an active internet connect.
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You still do not get it. The only thing Belkin's mistake (url redirect) has in common with Parental Control is that it happened to bring up a sign up page for Parental Control (it could have brought up the greatest thing since sliced bread and I still would have mentioned it). I was not trying to make parental control relevant to the conversation. CONTRARY EVIDENCE SUPPLIED HERE: "BTW, the Parental Control Feature is fairly innovative"(See you made me quote myself again) ... BTW commonly used in forums and chats means "By the way" as in possibly not relevant, applicable, or remotely related to current subject.
Case closed counselor (hopefully, but I doubt it).
The fact that I agreed with 100% of the other posters is not relevant as 99% of them had never used a Belkin router before making their comments. My comments came from a position of truly understanding the nature and scope of the problem. I believed my comments added some well needed information that /. users might appreciate. I am sorry that you did not, but you can't please everyone.
Nonetheless, way to keep gripping. Seems our side rant should best be put to rest. So please let me sum up what we have learned in the aforementioned rant.
1. Belkin screwed the pooch on this one
2. It is almost a crime as great as the Holocaust (not really, just a bit of exaggerated comparison meant to grab your attention, much like redirecting urls)
3. Parental Control is not relevant to the discussion
4. BTW means By the way
5. Principal is the guy's office you tried to avoid in high school.
6. Understanding the principles of the matter is priceless.
7. My sarcasm about your mental strength was not a personal attack just as your sarcasm about Hitler science experiments was not true comparison.
Well now that we've moved from Holocaust to cell phone service charges, I figure we may end up on comparing my initial post to getting a piece of junk toy in a great tasting box of Kracker Jacks.
... hopefully the last). From initial post: "Belkin obviously was mistaken to redirect ANY url request" ... "Belkin does need to (and looks like they are gonna) step up, re-tool, fix and move on.". If that sounds like the principle is lost on me then let me make an exaggerated comparison ... You are as deaf, dumb and blind as Helen Keller (my apologies to all the deaf, dumb and blind people - I know this puts you down more than digitalvengence).
Nonetheless, if I may quote myself (first time ever
Please let two concurrent and unrelated thoughts coexist in your brain. 1) Belkin made bad mistake, must fix problem. 2) Parental Control cool for Privacy advocates.
But thanks for the lesson on principles.
It is good to see that you "analyze" your spelling. The principle of the matter is not lost on me. I feel the need to place it in scope and use the tried and true method of research to understand the true scope so that exaggerations do not dilute the issue. I do hope that Belkin responds appropriately. BTW, don't take my word on all of this. Analyze for yourself. Stayed tuned. Parental Control ip traffic analysis is coming.
Good Job.
Way to relate the Holocaust with a sign-up page. I am sure that the millions that died appreciate your insight. Your obvious asinine comments only prove my point. But please do flame on.
BTW, I do not see the "advertisement methodology". They are (in a poor manner) asking if you would like to sign up for a feature displayed on the box. That is not an ad. Focus on the issue. Redirecting of any url request is bad.
When did slashdot.org member become a bunch of flamers? Do the research. Become informed. Make insightful comments.
... picked up the Register article some time ago ... never got around to playing with it). Do not fear, your porn will come thru without a redirect Theoretically, I suppose if you allow pop-ups and other such scripts to run then those new http sessions may be tagged for the redirect ... at least in theory.
... If someone from Belkin reads this (and you can bet the farm they are) I suggest the following. Add the Parental Control Sign-up to your "EZ Install" process. If you are afraid of losing potential Parental Control customers then make the first attempt o log into YOUR ROUTER prompt your trusting customers for permission to sign them up for Parental control next time the router gets an active internet connect.
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Belkin obviously was mistaken to redirect ANY url request, but if you would have bothered to check the behavior of this you would have found a couple interesting things. First, the url redirect apparently only happens at the start of a new http session. Those of you downloading the cure for cancer for you children need not be alarmed. Your precious cargo will not be mingled with a Parental Control Sign-up page. That's right folks, it is a signup page. Not that it makes right. Belkin does need to (and looks like they are gonna) step up, re-tool, fix and move on. Second, no active http sessions are interrupted (at least during the last 10 hours I have been probing
BTW, the Parental Control feature is fairly innovative. Privacy advocates like yourselves should check it out, provide criticism and help good ideas evolve. It is a good way to keep your unsuspecting spouses and children away from the true internet vultures out there that try to do real harm.
Bottom line
Just my two cents when it counts
Flame on.