Here is the thing. Software companies using cheap labor dont care about quality. Its cheaper for them to fix reported bugs using offshore labor than it is to pay someone to do it right the first time. They still come out ahead after support pack 5 is released.
Their attitude is like "Hey, who cares if this shit works. We sure dont!"
Anyone looking to start a career in IT better know someone in their senators office, or be prepared for a bumpy ride.
I would personally go out and get red carpet going. Same thing, and a pretty slick front end. And if you dont work for a company that has a license, you can get slicked back at http://open-carpet.org for about the same thing.
The idea of ease of use seems to be floating through this post. Here is my take. Microsoft has become the default standard of useability for the IT community as it relates to end users. I dont like it, most people reading this won't, but thats the way it is. To tell someone who is new to linux "Just go to the command line and its so much faster" is about the most counter-intuitive thing they have ever heard.
However, I agree with another earlier post. What will drive Linux will be businesses adopting Linux, and then people bringing it home.
"Where are all the icons?" will be replaced with "Wow, Linux is actually pretty cool and most of the time it is very stable and usable."
Anyway, since the point of the thread seems to be whether or not Fedora is going to be cool or not, let me suggest something else. SuSE 9.1. Its free as long as you can download some.ISO files. You can also get the preview version where you just boot off a CD and check it out.
Novell is doing a great job with this. Why dick around with Red Hat when you have all this sweet stuff from SuSE? They are still providing desktop support, they are not giving the finger to the community that got them where they are.
Go SuSE, screw Red Hat. Like I want their stupid "bleeding edge" crap.
So it kills me that the Debian servers got hacked. Is apt-get such a great idea? How hard would it be to insert a little something something that gets updated on all the Debian boxes out there?
I wonder if all the Debian freaks will now calm down a little. Of course, it might be like someone peeing in your corn flakes, resulting in massive hysteria, rioting in the slashdot forums, the unwashed masses clamoring for blood and the elimination of the letter "M" from the english alphabet.
Seriously folks, lets look at Windows 2003 server. I'm kidding. I wonder how many people will flame me.
My point is this. Linux is not the be all end all of existence. Its a great OS, with problems just like anything else. Lets keep this in its proper perspective and try to ignore the hysterical ranting of the Debian wackos.
I disagree with your comments. I am not being a troll, just stating what Novell has previously stated in multiple articles, interviews, etc. (do a search for Novell on google news.)
Novell has been very clear about its intentions. They intend to provide top to bottom enterprise level support to the Linux platform and offer all of the services traditionally associated with Netware on the Linux kernel. I dont know how much more you need.
In fact, you can now say that SuSE will be backed by a company that clears over a billion dollars of revenue a year (and has done that for the last 10 years) and has committed their entire organization to Linux.
Red Hat on the other hand, counts its revenue in millions and its profits in the thousands, and has just announced that they intend to kill the Red Hat linux distro's that most SMB's would use.
If your customers can afford to pay thousands of dollars a year in licensing costs to Red Hat, thats great. However, I would imagine that most of the small companies that you describe would prefer not to.
But who is putting the future of supported Linux into question? Red Hat is screwing every person that relies on them to keep their systems up to date and for support. Unless you sign up for a contract whether you want to or not. Sounds like a Microsoft deal to me.
Anyway, I would say that your fears are completely unfounded. If anything, you and your customers are in a position to benefit from this new development.
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Here is the thing. Software companies using cheap labor dont care about quality. Its cheaper for them to fix reported bugs using offshore labor than it is to pay someone to do it right the first time. They still come out ahead after support pack 5 is released.
Their attitude is like "Hey, who cares if this shit works. We sure dont!"
Anyone looking to start a career in IT better know someone in their senators office, or be prepared for a bumpy ride.
I would personally go out and get red carpet going. Same thing, and a pretty slick front end. And if you dont work for a company that has a license, you can get slicked back at http://open-carpet.org for about the same thing.
.ISO files. You can also get the preview version where you just boot off a CD and check it out.
The idea of ease of use seems to be floating through this post. Here is my take. Microsoft has become the default standard of useability for the IT community as it relates to end users. I dont like it, most people reading this won't, but thats the way it is. To tell someone who is new to linux "Just go to the command line and its so much faster" is about the most counter-intuitive thing they have ever heard.
However, I agree with another earlier post. What will drive Linux will be businesses adopting Linux, and then people bringing it home.
"Where are all the icons?" will be replaced with "Wow, Linux is actually pretty cool and most of the time it is very stable and usable."
Anyway, since the point of the thread seems to be whether or not Fedora is going to be cool or not, let me suggest something else. SuSE 9.1. Its free as long as you can download some
Novell is doing a great job with this. Why dick around with Red Hat when you have all this sweet stuff from SuSE? They are still providing desktop support, they are not giving the finger to the community that got them where they are.
Go SuSE, screw Red Hat. Like I want their stupid "bleeding edge" crap.
That would work pretty good. I would suggest the following additional commands:
wack mode on
find wacker
find wacksource
fsck wacker
execute highspeed fastwack
execute source clean
So it kills me that the Debian servers got hacked. Is apt-get such a great idea? How hard would it be to insert a little something something that gets updated on all the Debian boxes out there?
I wonder if all the Debian freaks will now calm down a little. Of course, it might be like someone peeing in your corn flakes, resulting in massive hysteria, rioting in the slashdot forums, the unwashed masses clamoring for blood and the elimination of the letter "M" from the english alphabet.
Seriously folks, lets look at Windows 2003 server. I'm kidding. I wonder how many people will flame me.
My point is this. Linux is not the be all end all of existence. Its a great OS, with problems just like anything else. Lets keep this in its proper perspective and try to ignore the hysterical ranting of the Debian wackos.
I disagree with your comments. I am not being a troll, just stating what Novell has previously stated in multiple articles, interviews, etc. (do a search for Novell on google news.)
Novell has been very clear about its intentions. They intend to provide top to bottom enterprise level support to the Linux platform and offer all of the services traditionally associated with Netware on the Linux kernel. I dont know how much more you need.
In fact, you can now say that SuSE will be backed by a company that clears over a billion dollars of revenue a year (and has done that for the last 10 years) and has committed their entire organization to Linux.
Red Hat on the other hand, counts its revenue in millions and its profits in the thousands, and has just announced that they intend to kill the Red Hat linux distro's that most SMB's would use.
If your customers can afford to pay thousands of dollars a year in licensing costs to Red Hat, thats great. However, I would imagine that most of the small companies that you describe would prefer not to.
But who is putting the future of supported Linux into question? Red Hat is screwing every person that relies on them to keep their systems up to date and for support. Unless you sign up for a contract whether you want to or not. Sounds like a Microsoft deal to me.
Anyway, I would say that your fears are completely unfounded. If anything, you and your customers are in a position to benefit from this new development.