Go with basics: EM interference/signal crossover and Electrostatic Discharge. Each one can be taught in a 30 minutes session and would provide such a foundation to further lectures.
This is only true in the right climate, electrostatic discharges don't have in some climates. No matter how long you drag your stocking feet across the carpet you can't generate a charge.
I'm not sure where it was he taught but one professor I had for physics joined the Peace Corp after he got his PhDs and taught at a university in an underdeveloped nation, and while there he tried to teach about static electricity but because the climate was too humid he couldn't actually show the students what it was.
On the other hand I liked what a teacher that I had in hr high did, in a demonstration he had us do he sprinkled iron filings on a flat surface with a magnet under it. Seeing it in action and doing it themselves made a lot of students curious.
Yes I agree there are degrees however neither I nor most other people agree with the International Olympic Committee's, IOC, definition of "female". Almost everyone says a person who gives birth to a baby is female, but not the IOC. And maybe other sports groups too, with all this ruckus about the South African woman in the news lately.
You have implied, numerous times, that everyone is either male of female.
I have not, what I have implied is that there should be more than 2 sex or gender classifications if there are any. In this whole thread I have argued against classifying people as either male or female. not as you say the opposite.
You are talking about gender identity issues
Partially but not only. I even stated that a person who had given birth to a baby was classified as a male by the Olympics Committee. That is not a gender issue, it is a reproductive issue if anything.
Their level of investigation is asking the original organization whether the information was correct. If they say yes, and it isn't correct, there's nothing you can do about it.
That sounds like Equifax, they are the hardest agency to get information corrected. With them a creditor can report that you owe money but you can send Equifax a receipt and canceled check to prove you did pay but they may not correct it anyway. As per the Fair Credit Reporting Act, or another law, credit report agencies are also supposed to allow people to include in their report statements like the receipt and canceled check in cases of dispute. But again it's hard to get Equifax to include one. People have had to sue Equifax to get them to correct info.
I am not sure what you mean. They don't have any extradition treaty that I know of with Cuba, so technically the US doesn't HAVE to extradite him
The US does have an extradition treaty with Venezuela, signed in 1922, and it was them that requested his extradition not Cuba.
I think its a pretty hypocritical move to NOT extradite him. Then again, its a pretty hypocritical move to participate in torture prosecutions for waterboarding and then use it on someone else too. Especially hypocritical to claim to respect the law and uphold the law, and NOT fully investigate claims of illegal torture....
Ooh I agree. What torture advocates don't know, or won't admit, is that even Genera George Washington forbid his troops from torturing prisoners. And waterboarding is torture, even the NAZIs and Japanese found it effective in WWII.
to harbor a criminal who was useful to the powers that be... seems about par for the course.
I agree again. The US even supported mass murderers.
Once he's in the US, they can add charges. This includes the capital crime of espionage: it's a reason many countries are cautious about extradition to the USA. (This is particularly true of our neighbors in Canada.)
Governmental memory doesn't last long, otherwise Canada wouldn't have allowed the US to subject to rendition the Canadian who the US sent to Syria for interrogation. US officials have even lied to Canadians when asking Canada to extradite someone in Canada to the US.
Remember, they got Al Capone for tax evasion, not for being a murdering crime boss.
Yeap, they couldn't get Al Capone of anything else. Not even the Saint Valentines Day Massacre. Of course he was in Florida then not Chicago. One of those killed was Frank Gusenberg, who was still alive when the bodies were found, even said "I'm not gonna talk - nobody shot me" when he was asked who shot him before he died. They killed each other but wouldn't rat on them.
In this case, the US government claims he deleted critical operating system files.
Government claims that but is it true? Even if true why didn't they have backups? It took me all of an hour for me to make a bootable clone of my OS on an external drive a few days ago. It didn't take much longer for me to backup all the user documents by cloning my user partition afterwards, and I have more than 200GB on the partition. As a matter of fact I have 3 external drives I use for backups and I'm working on a system of synchronizing the internal drive in my laptop with each of the external drives. Next I'll upgrade my tower PC and do the same.
If the systems he damaged were so important, then why were they connected to the net?
Quite simply saying this guy created $700,000 worth of damage is asinine.
And if you've never had to clean up after a cracker, let me tell you, many of them do far, far more damage than they admit, even script kiddies.
How much damage they say or know they caused? I bet those are different, those who want to cause damage say they caused more than they did while those who don't want to cause damage underestimate it I bet.
Falcon
Ooh, believe me when I say I know how important backups are. When my desktop, er tower, PC had to be repaired the motherboard had to be replaced. Because I bought a 2 year extended service plan with it and only had it 10 months before the motherboard died I took it to the store where I bought it for servicing. After the mobo was swapped the OS had to be reinstalled, if they were the same I don't know why, and in case of that I specifically included instructions for them. Because the PC only came with a 40GB HDD I bought a 750GB disk at the same tyme and paid them to install it so I could use it for the user files. I had more than 500GB of data on the drive so in the instructions I specifically wrote that I did not want the disk formatted, I even talked to the tech and told him that. While he didn't format the disk himself he did put the OS install routine on auto-pilot which did format the disk. So I lost more than 500GB of data.
Well hopefully not lost, I'm going to try to recover the data by cloning the disk then try to unformat the clone.
I'm hoping they can also help me get financial aid so I can get back into college. Between the three, people I'm working with, social activities, and college I'm hoping to start dating again as well as make friends.
I hope it works out for you.
Thanks, though an introvert friends are important to me irl. In college after taking the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator I told my advisor that I was introverted, and she said there was no way I could be introverted as I was too much outward going and had number of friends. So I copied a case study of someone with my type for her to read, when she did she said I was exactly like the person in the study.
As far as rejection goes, I figure that people rarely do anything against you, they do it for themselves. So they're really trying to get themselves out of an uncomfortable situation with minimum embarrassment. Some of them do that by "trying to let you down easy" some of them by being rude. Either way it's just a "no" and there are plenty more to ask. It's worse to have a secret crush on someone than an open rejection from them. Much better to have rejection than pine for someone you fear to talk to.
I agree in part. For a long tyme though I actually thought I'd rather fall into a romantic relationship with a close friend. We'd already know each other however nothing romantic was established until something thrust us together.
I agree that there are some double-standards on the part of the US authorities - but then the relationship with Venezuela in 1922 (when the treaty was written) was probably different to what it is now....
US history is filled with the government having double standards. As for our relationship with Venezuela and how it's changed, before and after 1922 the US practiced Gunboat diplomacy. That's where the term Banana Republic comes from, US banana and other agricultural businesses used the US military to backup by force what it wanted.
Related to it is how Panama came to be created. Panama was part of Colombia through 1903 and Teddy Roosevelt wanted a canal dug through the isthmus that connected South America to Central America, the area now comprising Panama. However the government of Colombia did not want the canal, why I don't know but they didn't. So Teddy supported a separatist movement that would allow the canal.
I included the part I found offensive, your "they are such a tiny percent of the population that it is essentially irrelevant."
It has been said that they don't fit the mold of pure male or pure female.So, someone who has a penis but has 2 X Chromosomes is not a male, and someone who has a vagina even if they have a Y Chromosome is male?
You didn't answer either to either question, is someone who has a penis a male? And is someone who has a vagina, and gives birth to a living baby, a female? Are you dodging them?
I never said that. I said that anyone with a documented gender abmormality that could cause confusion (like being XY with and giving birth, or XX with a penis) should be excluded from gender-based competition.
You never said that either, you said the Olympic Committee was right in it's decision. I even included that part, "So I would think the Olympic ruling is sane. A Y-chromosome defines male. The organs the chromosome are supposed to trigger to be made do not." I then pointed out that most people do not use your definitions of male and female.
What they are or are not isn't for you to decide.
Yet you are doing exactly that, you are deciding what they are and are not. My aim is not to decide what people are and are not, though I never did say it I fully support each individual's ability to decide for themselves what they are though I'd personally get rid of gender classifications. Actually I support research into ways to allow a person to, if they decide to, how they can become pregnant and carry a baby to birth or impregnate someone else and sire a baby. I have no problem with one person becoming pregnant and giving birth at the same tyme they fertilize another person's egg making them pregnant.
The dictionary has nothing to do with fairness or the perception thereof. This isn't about classifying them.
You define what things are and classifies them yet when I point out you're wrong, as I did providing a link to the definition of "male" and female (oops the link didn't work the first tyme you indicate I shouldn't do that.
In most cases, hermaphodites are sterile
I don't know the ratio of those intersexuals who are fertile to those who are sterile, however some can have babies:
They don't have to delete information more than 7 years old. They have to delete negative credit information more than 7 years old.
Alias names, SSNs, and DOBs are bad info. People have gotten arrested because of these. As for deleting info after 7 years, you're right. Looking at a credit report from Equifax I got late last year it lists an address almost 10 years old (as of the date of the report). It also has an employer I last worked for more than 15 years go. It doesn't list my last employment though, from 13 years ago, I wonder if Experian or TransUnion lists it.
And the "alias" isn't credit information so it can remain indefinitely as well.
But if it's inaccurate or incomplete info they still have to investigate and correct it if is wrong. The Fair Credit Reporting Act requires it.
Does the US have an extradition treaty with Venezuela?
"President Chavez emphasized that terrorist Luis Posada Carriles should be extradited to Venezuela, according to the extradition treaty between governments in Caracas and Washington."
True - but in all the hubbub about al-Magrehi there's a lot of hidden sub-texts that made that hubbub all the louder:
Maybe I should have phrased it differently. When I mentioned the hubbub I meant all the voices against his release with shouts about there being deals made. A lot of Americans opposed his released, when as you say there are questions as to his guilt, but there's no outcry from Americans for the government to hand over another accused terrorist.
which was misplaced, it lies with one of the following:
a) Incompetent in-house security/administration
The correct answer is a, incompetent in-house security/administration. See here from the BBC:
"I found out that the US military use Windows," said Mr McKinnon in that BBC interview. "And having realised this, I assumed it would probably be an easy hack if they hadn't secured it properly."
Someone might say Microsoft shares responsibility but the Windows license states they are not responsible, and in some cases I imagine like this the software used has to have a special classification. The software has to be usable for mission critical applications, I don't recall exactly what it said but I seem to recall an MS license specifically stating it is not to be used in a critical system.
Basically the Government did not have a firewall or any security systems in place at all to stop someone from Remoting in. Thats like leaving your door open, and expecting someone not to enter without permission. Someone walks inside, does that constitute as breaking and entering?
Strictly speaking even though nothing is broken it's still breaking and entering when you enter a house you're not invited to enter by the owners or renters. I've had both police officers and lawyers tell me that.
The government already pays people to find security holes. They don't pay you. Perhaps this will teach some people that if you don't want to pay the fines for breaking the law, then don't break the law!
Here's a big pothole, the US government won't extradite a man it paid as a CIA spy so he can stand trial for blowing up an airliner.
And I get annoyed with anyone who suggests their country is deserving of any manner of special treatment. If they insist on acting like douchebags, (and I live in the US...so thats exactly what "they" do) then I say.... treat them like douchebags.
Does treating them like douche bags apply to the US? Or do you agree the US should not extradite Luis Posada Carriles to Venezuela to stand trial for blowing up Cubana Flight 455? Although he was arrested for illegally entering the US the US will not extradite him.
The summary is heavily confused (not odd for/., I will admit).
Summaries, which link to original articles, usually get something wrong. Using the link articles should be read. I know, I know, slashdotters don't read articles.
As for the rest, if anything they should pay this guy for showing weaknesses in the system. And maybe pay him more to fix it, though I'd demand the vendor fix it or pay him to fix it.
Personally this reinforces my fear of my government, and citizens shouldn't fear government, government should fear citizens.
and, due to the federal computers involved, espionage.
Then they can charge him with espionage. Did they? No. They billed him for fixing holes he discovered in their system.
This also provides plenty of fascinating legal grounds for extradition.
The US has hardly any grounds to demand extradition when it won't extradite Cuban-born Venezuelan Luis Posada Carriles to stand trial for blowing up Cubana Flight 455. Venezuela has been demanding his extradition. And despite refusing to do so, he was arrested for illegally entering the US.
Despite all the hubbub about Scotland freeing the Libyan who was found guilty of blowing up Pan Am Flight 103, I bet most people never heard of Luis Posada Carriles.
I dont really agree that he should have to pay to fix the holes, but if he took data, which is essentialy property he should be held accountable.
That property or data is still there unless he deleted it and there was no backup, so there was no theft. At most it would be copy infringement. Or maybe a case of spying can be made, if the data classified.
Again we need to stop blaming the victim.
I'll stop blaming government when I can know what it does. Government is supposed to be the servant of the people and it should fear the people not the people fear the government.
"Gary McKinnon, whose tribulations we have followed for several years now, is the UK hacker trying to escape extradition to the US. It appears he is expected to foot the bill for the US Government patching holes his breaching uncovered -- to the tune of $700,000. It's not really the norm for someone to pay for exploits to be patched -- damages fixed, yes, but this is a very different thing."
This is BS!!! If anything the government should thank him and give him an award for pointing out how weak security was.
Saudi Arabia is still a state [onelook.com] and you said "the degree of protection of children that the State is warranted in exercising." A state does not preclude a theocracy.
That's completely true, and completely unrelated to the object of the definite article in my sentence.:)
It is very pertinent unless you meant something other than government for "State". You may of meant society, but even society shouldn't be dictating how people will live as long as they are not harming another person, and if I drink raw milk I am not harming anyone except potentially myself.
As for children if the state wants to tell me how to raise my own children when I disagree with it it can remove them from my cold dead fingers. Otherwise I can demand children not be taught religion which kills many more people than raw milk.
1) the weapon is a short burst weapon, and no, it can't kill you, it only causes discomfort while you;re in the beam, and it causes no cell disruption or actual biurns, only burning SENSATION.
From a military pdf, "With respect to concerns about skin damage, in most instances there is no after-effect. On occasion, some skin reddening and irritation has been observed. The 11,000 exposures
produced only eight second-degree burns, six of which consisted of pea-size blisters that
healed without medical attention. The other two required medical care; both individuals
recovered fully without complications." However it does not say how long exposure was. I bet if you're trapped inside the beam and unable to get away you will be burned.
You misunderstand the difference between DNA and LIFE
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Go with basics: EM interference/signal crossover and Electrostatic Discharge. Each one can be taught in a 30 minutes session and would provide such a foundation to further lectures.
This is only true in the right climate, electrostatic discharges don't have in some climates. No matter how long you drag your stocking feet across the carpet you can't generate a charge.
I'm not sure where it was he taught but one professor I had for physics joined the Peace Corp after he got his PhDs and taught at a university in an underdeveloped nation, and while there he tried to teach about static electricity but because the climate was too humid he couldn't actually show the students what it was.
On the other hand I liked what a teacher that I had in hr high did, in a demonstration he had us do he sprinkled iron filings on a flat surface with a magnet under it. Seeing it in action and doing it themselves made a lot of students curious.
Falcon
Yes I agree there are degrees however neither I nor most other people agree with the International Olympic Committee's, IOC, definition of "female". Almost everyone says a person who gives birth to a baby is female, but not the IOC. And maybe other sports groups too, with all this ruckus about the South African woman in the news lately.
Falcon
You have implied, numerous times, that everyone is either male of female.
I have not, what I have implied is that there should be more than 2 sex or gender classifications if there are any. In this whole thread I have argued against classifying people as either male or female. not as you say the opposite.
You are talking about gender identity issues
Partially but not only. I even stated that a person who had given birth to a baby was classified as a male by the Olympics Committee. That is not a gender issue, it is a reproductive issue if anything.
Falcon
Their level of investigation is asking the original organization whether the information was correct. If they say yes, and it isn't correct, there's nothing you can do about it.
That sounds like Equifax, they are the hardest agency to get information corrected. With them a creditor can report that you owe money but you can send Equifax a receipt and canceled check to prove you did pay but they may not correct it anyway. As per the Fair Credit Reporting Act, or another law, credit report agencies are also supposed to allow people to include in their report statements like the receipt and canceled check in cases of dispute. But again it's hard to get Equifax to include one. People have had to sue Equifax to get them to correct info.
Falcon
I am not sure what you mean. They don't have any extradition treaty that I know of with Cuba, so technically the US doesn't HAVE to extradite him
The US does have an extradition treaty with Venezuela, signed in 1922, and it was them that requested his extradition not Cuba.
I think its a pretty hypocritical move to NOT extradite him. Then again, its a pretty hypocritical move to participate in torture prosecutions for waterboarding and then use it on someone else too. Especially hypocritical to claim to respect the law and uphold the law, and NOT fully investigate claims of illegal torture....
Ooh I agree. What torture advocates don't know, or won't admit, is that even Genera George Washington forbid his troops from torturing prisoners. And waterboarding is torture, even the NAZIs and Japanese found it effective in WWII.
to harbor a criminal who was useful to the powers that be... seems about par for the course.
I agree again. The US even supported mass murderers.
Falcon
Once he's in the US, they can add charges. This includes the capital crime of espionage: it's a reason many countries are cautious about extradition to the USA. (This is particularly true of our neighbors in Canada.)
Governmental memory doesn't last long, otherwise Canada wouldn't have allowed the US to subject to rendition the Canadian who the US sent to Syria for interrogation. US officials have even lied to Canadians when asking Canada to extradite someone in Canada to the US.
Remember, they got Al Capone for tax evasion, not for being a murdering crime boss.
Yeap, they couldn't get Al Capone of anything else. Not even the Saint Valentines Day Massacre. Of course he was in Florida then not Chicago. One of those killed was Frank Gusenberg, who was still alive when the bodies were found, even said "I'm not gonna talk - nobody shot me" when he was asked who shot him before he died. They killed each other but wouldn't rat on them.
In this case, the US government claims he deleted critical operating system files.
Government claims that but is it true? Even if true why didn't they have backups? It took me all of an hour for me to make a bootable clone of my OS on an external drive a few days ago. It didn't take much longer for me to backup all the user documents by cloning my user partition afterwards, and I have more than 200GB on the partition. As a matter of fact I have 3 external drives I use for backups and I'm working on a system of synchronizing the internal drive in my laptop with each of the external drives. Next I'll upgrade my tower PC and do the same.
If the systems he damaged were so important, then why were they connected to the net?
Quite simply saying this guy created $700,000 worth of damage is asinine.
And if you've never had to clean up after a cracker, let me tell you, many of them do far, far more damage than they admit, even script kiddies.
How much damage they say or know they caused? I bet those are different, those who want to cause damage say they caused more than they did while those who don't want to cause damage underestimate it I bet.
Falcon
Ooh, believe me when I say I know how important backups are. When my desktop, er tower, PC had to be repaired the motherboard had to be replaced. Because I bought a 2 year extended service plan with it and only had it 10 months before the motherboard died I took it to the store where I bought it for servicing. After the mobo was swapped the OS had to be reinstalled, if they were the same I don't know why, and in case of that I specifically included instructions for them. Because the PC only came with a 40GB HDD I bought a 750GB disk at the same tyme and paid them to install it so I could use it for the user files. I had more than 500GB of data on the drive so in the instructions I specifically wrote that I did not want the disk formatted, I even talked to the tech and told him that. While he didn't format the disk himself he did put the OS install routine on auto-pilot which did format the disk. So I lost more than 500GB of data.
Well hopefully not lost, I'm going to try to recover the data by cloning the disk then try to unformat the clone.
Falcon
I'm hoping they can also help me get financial aid so I can get back into college. Between the three, people I'm working with, social activities, and college I'm hoping to start dating again as well as make friends.
I hope it works out for you.
Thanks, though an introvert friends are important to me irl. In college after taking the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator I told my advisor that I was introverted, and she said there was no way I could be introverted as I was too much outward going and had number of friends. So I copied a case study of someone with my type for her to read, when she did she said I was exactly like the person in the study.
As far as rejection goes, I figure that people rarely do anything against you, they do it for themselves. So they're really trying to get themselves out of an uncomfortable situation with minimum embarrassment. Some of them do that by "trying to let you down easy" some of them by being rude. Either way it's just a "no" and there are plenty more to ask. It's worse to have a secret crush on someone than an open rejection from them. Much better to have rejection than pine for someone you fear to talk to.
I agree in part. For a long tyme though I actually thought I'd rather fall into a romantic relationship with a close friend. We'd already know each other however nothing romantic was established until something thrust us together.
Falcon
I agree that there are some double-standards on the part of the US authorities - but then the relationship with Venezuela in 1922 (when the treaty was written) was probably different to what it is now....
US history is filled with the government having double standards. As for our relationship with Venezuela and how it's changed, before and after 1922 the US practiced Gunboat diplomacy. That's where the term Banana Republic comes from, US banana and other agricultural businesses used the US military to backup by force what it wanted.
Related to it is how Panama came to be created. Panama was part of Colombia through 1903 and Teddy Roosevelt wanted a canal dug through the isthmus that connected South America to Central America, the area now comprising Panama. However the government of Colombia did not want the canal, why I don't know but they didn't. So Teddy supported a separatist movement that would allow the canal.
Falcon
I included the part I found offensive, your "they are such a tiny percent of the population that it is essentially irrelevant."
It has been said that they don't fit the mold of pure male or pure female.So, someone who has a penis but has 2 X Chromosomes is not a male, and someone who has a vagina even if they have a Y Chromosome is male?
You didn't answer either to either question, is someone who has a penis a male? And is someone who has a vagina, and gives birth to a living baby, a female? Are you dodging them?
I never said that. I said that anyone with a documented gender abmormality that could cause confusion (like being XY with and giving birth, or XX with a penis) should be excluded from gender-based competition.
You never said that either, you said the Olympic Committee was right in it's decision. I even included that part, "So I would think the Olympic ruling is sane. A Y-chromosome defines male. The organs the chromosome are supposed to trigger to be made do not." I then pointed out that most people do not use your definitions of male and female.
What they are or are not isn't for you to decide.
Yet you are doing exactly that, you are deciding what they are and are not. My aim is not to decide what people are and are not, though I never did say it I fully support each individual's ability to decide for themselves what they are though I'd personally get rid of gender classifications. Actually I support research into ways to allow a person to, if they decide to, how they can become pregnant and carry a baby to birth or impregnate someone else and sire a baby. I have no problem with one person becoming pregnant and giving birth at the same tyme they fertilize another person's egg making them pregnant.
The dictionary has nothing to do with fairness or the perception thereof. This isn't about classifying them.
You define what things are and classifies them yet when I point out you're wrong, as I did providing a link to the definition of "male" and female (oops the link didn't work the first tyme you indicate I shouldn't do that.
In most cases, hermaphodites are sterile
I don't know the ratio of those intersexuals who are fertile to those who are sterile, however some can have babies:
"A variety of factors go into this decision. Important goals in deciding sex assignment include preserving fertility where possible"
And, oddly enough, from the definition you posted, an infertile person, regardless of reason, is neither male nor female.
male "noun: a person who belongs to the sex that cannot have babies".
Falcon
They don't have to delete information more than 7 years old. They have to delete negative credit information more than 7 years old.
Alias names, SSNs, and DOBs are bad info. People have gotten arrested because of these. As for deleting info after 7 years, you're right. Looking at a credit report from Equifax I got late last year it lists an address almost 10 years old (as of the date of the report). It also has an employer I last worked for more than 15 years go. It doesn't list my last employment though, from 13 years ago, I wonder if Experian or TransUnion lists it.
And the "alias" isn't credit information so it can remain indefinitely as well.
But if it's inaccurate or incomplete info they still have to investigate and correct it if is wrong. The Fair Credit Reporting Act requires it.
Falcon
Does the US have an extradition treaty with Venezuela?
"President Chavez emphasized that terrorist Luis Posada Carriles should be extradited to Venezuela, according to the extradition treaty between governments in Caracas and Washington."
True - but in all the hubbub about al-Magrehi there's a lot of hidden sub-texts that made that hubbub all the louder:
Maybe I should have phrased it differently. When I mentioned the hubbub I meant all the voices against his release with shouts about there being deals made. A lot of Americans opposed his released, when as you say there are questions as to his guilt, but there's no outcry from Americans for the government to hand over another accused terrorist.
Falcon
which was misplaced, it lies with one of the following:
a) Incompetent in-house security/administration
The correct answer is a, incompetent in-house security/administration. See here from the BBC:
"I found out that the US military use Windows," said Mr McKinnon in that BBC interview. "And having realised this, I assumed it would probably be an easy hack if they hadn't secured it properly."
Someone might say Microsoft shares responsibility but the Windows license states they are not responsible, and in some cases I imagine like this the software used has to have a special classification. The software has to be usable for mission critical applications, I don't recall exactly what it said but I seem to recall an MS license specifically stating it is not to be used in a critical system.
Falcon
Basically the Government did not have a firewall or any security systems in place at all to stop someone from Remoting in. Thats like leaving your door open, and expecting someone not to enter without permission. Someone walks inside, does that constitute as breaking and entering?
Strictly speaking even though nothing is broken it's still breaking and entering when you enter a house you're not invited to enter by the owners or renters. I've had both police officers and lawyers tell me that.
Falcon
I don't think so, government should fear people not people fear government.
Falcon
The government already pays people to find security holes. They don't pay you. Perhaps this will teach some people that if you don't want to pay the fines for breaking the law, then don't break the law!
Here's a big pothole, the US government won't extradite a man it paid as a CIA spy so he can stand trial for blowing up an airliner.
Falcon
And I get annoyed with anyone who suggests their country is deserving of any manner of special treatment. If they insist on acting like douchebags, (and I live in the US...so thats exactly what "they" do) then I say.... treat them like douchebags.
Does treating them like douche bags apply to the US? Or do you agree the US should not extradite Luis Posada Carriles to Venezuela to stand trial for blowing up Cubana Flight 455? Although he was arrested for illegally entering the US the US will not extradite him.
Falcon
Thats a very different situation from the article, where a broken door is created by the robber.
TFA does not say he broke the lock or door.
Falcon
The summary is heavily confused (not odd for /., I will admit).
Summaries, which link to original articles, usually get something wrong. Using the link articles should be read. I know, I know, slashdotters don't read articles.
As for the rest, if anything they should pay this guy for showing weaknesses in the system. And maybe pay him more to fix it, though I'd demand the vendor fix it or pay him to fix it.
Personally this reinforces my fear of my government, and citizens shouldn't fear government, government should fear citizens.
Falcon
What seems fair to me is they pay him for showing them a weakness in their system.
Falcon
That's trespass and theft
It may of been trespass but it was not theft.
and, due to the federal computers involved, espionage.
Then they can charge him with espionage. Did they? No. They billed him for fixing holes he discovered in their system.
This also provides plenty of fascinating legal grounds for extradition.
The US has hardly any grounds to demand extradition when it won't extradite Cuban-born Venezuelan Luis Posada Carriles to stand trial for blowing up Cubana Flight 455. Venezuela has been demanding his extradition. And despite refusing to do so, he was arrested for illegally entering the US.
Despite all the hubbub about Scotland freeing the Libyan who was found guilty of blowing up Pan Am Flight 103, I bet most people never heard of Luis Posada Carriles.
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I dont really agree that he should have to pay to fix the holes, but if he took data, which is essentialy property he should be held accountable.
That property or data is still there unless he deleted it and there was no backup, so there was no theft. At most it would be copy infringement. Or maybe a case of spying can be made, if the data classified.
Again we need to stop blaming the victim.
I'll stop blaming government when I can know what it does. Government is supposed to be the servant of the people and it should fear the people not the people fear the government.
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"Gary McKinnon, whose tribulations we have followed for several years now, is the UK hacker trying to escape extradition to the US. It appears he is expected to foot the bill for the US Government patching holes his breaching uncovered -- to the tune of $700,000. It's not really the norm for someone to pay for exploits to be patched -- damages fixed, yes, but this is a very different thing."
This is BS!!! If anything the government should thank him and give him an award for pointing out how weak security was.
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Saudi Arabia is still a state [onelook.com] and you said "the degree of protection of children that the State is warranted in exercising." A state does not preclude a theocracy.
That's completely true, and completely unrelated to the object of the definite article in my sentence. :)
It is very pertinent unless you meant something other than government for "State". You may of meant society, but even society shouldn't be dictating how people will live as long as they are not harming another person, and if I drink raw milk I am not harming anyone except potentially myself.
As for children if the state wants to tell me how to raise my own children when I disagree with it it can remove them from my cold dead fingers. Otherwise I can demand children not be taught religion which kills many more people than raw milk.
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1) the weapon is a short burst weapon, and no, it can't kill you, it only causes discomfort while you;re in the beam, and it causes no cell disruption or actual biurns, only burning SENSATION.
From a military pdf, "With respect to concerns about skin damage, in most instances there is no after-effect. On occasion, some skin reddening and irritation has been observed. The 11,000 exposures produced only eight second-degree burns, six of which consisted of pea-size blisters that healed without medical attention. The other two required medical care; both individuals recovered fully without complications." However it does not say how long exposure was. I bet if you're trapped inside the beam and unable to get away you will be burned.
You misunderstand the difference between DNA and LIFE
BS! And I end there.
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That must be a nifty trick, to be able to tell what someone's sexual orientation is just by looking at them. How do you do that?
I look at them...
And you are 100% correct? I seriously doubt it.
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