That being said, any serious writing that I do, and certainly any collaborative work, is always done in Word.
And how compatible is your Word docs made in OS X with Office for Windows, and visa versa? I haven't used it, I use NeoOffice, so I don't know but some comments above say they are not that compatible.
If you need seamless MS Office interoperablity stick with MS Office./P.
MS Office does not offer compatibility between different versions though. If you want a document to display the same on different platforms, and do not need to edit documents then.pdf is the best format to use.
The common reason I find for people emailing word documents is when they are negotiating contracts. Then you see.docs being emailed between the parties and their advisers, with people suggesting various changes to the document.
However if different parties are using different Office versions they can have compatibility problems as people above have pointed out.
This is what happened in Tiananmen Square in China: The students who rose up were not joined by others. Military forces who were not only loyal to the regime but hostile to the students were brought in, and the students were crushed.
Yes military units had to be brought in, because local army units refused to fire on the protesters. Deng Xiaoping even "went as far as ordering the 12th Army, with which he had a close relationship, be moved to Beijing soon after 4 June to guard against a military coup".
And what would fossil fuels cost if all the externalities were assigned to the consumer? The free market is far from perfect,
It would be more expensive however it is not a free market. We go to war over oil and coal gets subsidies. Neither of these make a free market.
Oh and farm subsidies are proving to be quite beneficial right now, we're at about 2/3rds the unemployment of the great depression yet noone is starving.
Yea, but it's not farmers who benefit it's the multinational corporations like Archer Daniels Midland, AMD, and Cargill who do, they get billions of dollars in subsidies. They can then export to Mexico corn cheaper than Mexican farmers can grow it. Yes, export. The US is one of the largest exporters of agricultural products in the world. Meanwhile corporate farms drive small farmers off their own farms.
Note that you can compromise Tor a lot more easily if you can also block it.
Yes it's easy to block Tor, just cut off the net in Iran. If the net is not cut off they can't do much to compromise Tor. That's because anybody, with the skills, computer, and net access can set up Tor. Because of what's going on in Iran someone posted how to setup Tor in Ubuntu.
They could see which Iranians are using TOR which might be enough to get the user into big trouble. They might not see the originator but that doesn't really matter if they just want to collect Iranian IPs of people using TOR.
They'd only be able to get the IPs of those who used one own of their own TOR nodes first. Traffic between nodes does not reveal the IP making the request.
Either the tanks stop, or the next place the people meet is outside Mahmoud Ahmadinejads' house with brick and chain.
Assuming their army either runs out of bullets or refuses to shoot, and of course that there are actually enough people willing to risk their lives.
Some Army groups based near Beijing where Tiananmen Square is located refused to fire. The commander of the 38th Army, who feigned sickness, was one commander who refused. Because Deng Xiaoping, the Chinese leader, didn't want a military coup to happen he ordered "the 12th Army, with which he had a close relationship, be moved to Beijing soon after 4 June".
AR-15s are relatively easy to convert to automatic. Of course I'd prefer an M14 or M1. Heck I'd prefer an AK47 over an M16. When I was in the Army we used to joke that if we found an AK47 on the ground we'd drop our M16 and pick up the '47. They aren't as accurate as M16s but like Timex watches they can take a licking and keep on ticking. M16s jamb too easily.
For most people, if it doesn't have Word & Excel, it doesn't have "all the apps needed for an office".
Open Office has Writer in place of Word, and Calc for Excel. I've opened both Word and Excel documents with them. In the 4 or 5 years I've used OO I only had one problem, when I tried to open a.docx document. It wouldn't open, however I then updated OO and it opened fine. Personally I, and many others, don't like being locked into a proprietary format.
And it came with an OS from a company that treats it's customers like criminals.
Propaganda slogan.
BS!!! It's true, MS treats it's users like criminals. It's one think to require a key to use an app but it's totally different to require the app access to the net so it can contact MS's servers for Activation. It's also treating users like criminals when apps install a bunch of spyware such as Windows Genuine Advantage.
If I buy software the most that I should need to use it is to type a product key, that came in the box, it shouldn't require contacting the mother ship. Or phoning the office. Yet MS is the only one I know that requires that. Neither Linux nor Macs do. I don't know but I heard Autocad also requires it.
My other reason was because I got sick and tired of my Windows PCs constantly crashing
Funny thing, my Windows PC does not crash.
Two out of three Windows PCs I bought new did. The third one didn't crash but because it's CPU was a DEC Alpha and it ran NT4 Workstation I was barely able to get software installed on it so I didn't use it much. Also the first tyme I used a PC with XP, installed on a brand new PC the college I was taking a class at just got, it froze while booting up. All I could do to get it running was holding the power button in and doing a hard reboot. Windows 2000 PCs I used in classes also crashed, and gave me the Blue Screen of Death.
I also had to have hardware replaced on my PCs, I had to replace the motherboards and harddisks on two new Windows PC within a year. Okay so one was a Gateway so not that good however the other was an HP. On both I had to reinstall Windows along with all my software as well. And I didn't decide to do it on my own. I'd have a problem with the Gateway and would call tech support. After the tech had me run through some tests I was told I needed to reformat and reinstall Windows. This happened a couple of more tymes the first year. This when I got the HP I had similar problems and ended up reinstalling Windows on it too.
having to replace hardware
On a Windows PC you actually *can* replace hardware.
There's a different between being able to replace or install hardware and having to because the hardware failed. As I said above I had to have hardware replaced when it failed. I have also added hardware. When I bought it I also bought a harddisk and a graphics card I then installed on the HP. I wanted a second harddisk because I was going to set the PC up dualboot and install Linux on it. The second graphics card was so I could drive two monitors. I never did install Linux though, because the original hardware was not compatible. So I ended up using the second drive for more storage.
After going through BS trying to use Windows PCs for years I gave up and switched.
where the integration and form factor are hidden behind a desk or in a server room, I could just as well grab a non-Apple machine and be just as happy. But for laptops, imacs, and even powermacs, you just can't get a machine with matching integration and ergonomics from commodity components as such.
Depending on who makes the server hardware OEM prices can be either less or more than Macs. The Mac Pro is a good workstation and when I configured Dell and HP workstations they cost considerably more than the Mac Pro. And what many may not know is that Apple also makes some good mass storage systems, such as the Xsan, and servers like the Xserve.
But for laptops, imacs, and even powermacs
Personally I think the all-in-ones, whether the iMac or Dell's or HP's offerings are a waste. As is the Mac Mini. The integration of the various lines are pretty good though I don't care about some of them. Such as the built-in iSight camera. Others obviously love it though, any number of tymes I walked into an Apple store and saw teens playing around with them.
Personally if I wanted a web cam I'd prefer one with higher resolution. That's why I haven't gotten a digital camera yet, I want one with high res. Then again I want to start working as a photographer. So until I can afford a good DSRL I'll stick with my 35mm and scan my film.
It is still a failure. All these years, they've been employing a group of programmers writing their own version of Linux. Think about the costs.
It's not a failure, it would have been if they had rushed into switching over. But I agree they could have saved money by using a disto that was available instead of programming their own.
This is a perfect example of how Open Source cult is a cost to the many
Really? Linux and open source is costly? The last new PC I bought cost me $200 and came with Linux preinstalled as well as all the apps needed for an office except a database, which I could have downloaded. The cheapest Windows PC fro the same store was twice that. And it came with an OS from a company that treats it's customers like criminals. That was one of 2 big reasons I switched from Windows, to Linux and Mac. My other reason was because I got sick and tired of my Windows PCs constantly crashing, having to replace hardware, and reinstalling Windows. What's more costly is paying for something that is not usable!!!
The first tyme I used one Dell, a brand new one with XP, it froze while booting up. The only thing I could do to get it working was to push in the power button until it powered down then reboot.
What's your point?
You bad mouthed Macs so I listed all the problems with Windows PCs I've had. That's my point!
Oh, and get this: I get the latest version of my OS of choice too!
I have the lated updated version of one of my OSes of choice, 10.5.7. And I plan to install another choice for an OS, Ubuntu Studio 9.04. I've been waiting for a book about it to come out, I see Amazon is now carrying "Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop Handbook" which I'll check later today to see if local book stores have it so I can check it out. I'd rather get one about 9.04 like "A Practical Guide to Ubuntu Linux" but it's not out yet.
There's nothing special about mac hardware. It doesn't last long. Apple is an OEM. Maybe quality was better back in the day
My Mac lasted more than twice as long without problems as 2 of my Windows PCs and one and a half tymes as long as a Linux PC.
Maybe quality was better back in the day, but brown iPhones, aluminum macs (seriously? it's not even thick!)
Either you're trolling or you're ignoring I said. I wouldn't get an iPhone. And my MacBook Pro is less than 2 years old. As for Macs being thin, I'd rather that than carrying a ton around, though I admit I might get a pro Mac laptop if Apple made one like a Panasonic Toughbook. And as for easy breakage, I had a Gateway laptop that I was carrying in a bag when I slipped on ice getting out of my car. It was less than 3' off the ground yet the LCD cracked. I called tech support and they said they didn't cover that. So I asked how much it would cost to repair and they couldn't even tell me, they just said between $300 and $1200. Twelve hundred dollars? That's half what I paid for it. After having it less than 3 months it became useless.
Foxconn motherboards (*shudder*)
I don't know who makes Mac logic boards but Foxconn makes motherboards for PCs. I've been thinking about getting a new mobo for my Linux PC, but I don't know what I'll get. I know it depends on what CPU I'd get but I'm not sure which one I'll get either. I know I'd like the mobo to have both USB2 and Firewire 800 and the CPU be good to use in a server, development platform, and graphics editing.
and all the issues with magsafe make me stamp a big "DONOTWANT" over apple parts.
10% of desktops running Linux 6 years after the migration started?? It's an utter failure.
First it's not been 6 years, it hasn't been more than 4 years. Yes, the migration was supposed to start in 2003, however it was put on hold. In 2004 they decided a study was needed "to clear up legal insecurities related to software patents. The actual migration has been running since 2005."
Secondly they never meant to switch over to Linux all at once. Instead they planned to switch people to FOOS applications first. Meaning switching from IE to Firefox, MS Office to OpenOffice, Outlook to Thunderbird. Once people could use those then the OS would be switched to Linux. And for those apps that are needed but can't be replaced by a FOOS app, then run it in WINE.
While only 10% of the desktops have been migrated to Linux 60% of users use OpenOffice.org instead of MS Office.
Bearing in mind that the have migrated only 10% of desktops in 6 years
One reason the migrations has been slow is because in 2004 they decided they wanted to do a study, the "study was conducted to clear up legal insecurities related to software patents. The actual migration has been running since 2005." Still it has been a long tyme.
The Declaration of Independence: The LiMux Project in Munich has more info on the failure. For instance one reason the migration has been delayed is because of concern about software patents, the city wanted to do a study because of legal insecurities.
Can you tell me how a business with no revenue can make $140 million in profits in the first quarter? Or did you mean Apple not Red Hat? Apple's Q1 profits were $2,971.00 billion.
trolling or not but the guy might be onto something with the last one, what profit did Canonical make recently?
I don't know about Canonical but Red Hat's Q1, first quarter, profits were $140.57 million and Novell's Q2 were $170.31 million. Those aren't in Microsoft's ballpark but there is profit being made. Now IBM's, who's a big player in Linux, Q1 profit was $9,430.00 billion whereas Microsoft's was 10,834.00. MS beats IBM but only by $1.4 billion.
I would never buy a Mac especially not with all the reliability problems they have
I say the same about PCs. I am typing this on my first new Mac and I've owned it about 22 months. The first, and only, hardware problem I have had with it I had repaired about 5 months ago. And I have only had to reinstall the OS twice, one of those when I replaced the original harddisk drive with a bigger one. On the other hand I bought 4 new PCs 3 of which I had to have the motherboard and 2 of which of which I had to have the harddisk drive replaced in the first year. Of the 4 new PCs only one did not have to be repaired in the first year. Two of the 3 I also had to reinstall the OS at least once the first year and repeatedly afterwards.
Now I said above this was my first new Mac, but I also have bought 2 used Macs. The first one was a Mac SE30 I bought in 1992, 4 years after it was released. It lasted without hardware problems until 2000. A few months after it died I bought a Powermac 7300/200 made in 1997. It lasted until 2006 without hardware problems. And I did not have to reinstall any software on either one.
Quite simply Macs tend to last longer than Windows PCs.
why pay more (the Apple tax) for less hardware
Before buying my MacBook Pro I compared it's price to various Windows OEM laptops, and it's price was comparable to them. Some were cheaper but others were more expensive. A similarly configured Dell was $200 more.
So I am not surprised at all that currently people at open-source conferences are using iPhones. I recently bought one for myself
I'd replace my MBP with a new one and would buy a Mac Pro for a desktop workstation/server and maybe an Apple Cinema Display, that's all the Apple hardware I'm interested in buying. I have no interest in an iPod or any other mpg player. And for now my 3 year old cellphone works fine for me. I'd only replace it with with a cellphone I could tether my laptop to for broadband access, which the iPhone does not do.
how can the price/performance ratio be unbeatable, when they use the same products, but charge more for them?
2009 calling. Mac prices have been relatively comparable to Windows PC prices for years, why does this mime not die? Of course a buyer has to start with a Mac then configure a PC for similar specs, you can't just say you want a mini or mid tower then try to get a Mac version. Apple doesn't make one.
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Why would I or Amazon have to pay taxes twice or more for something?
Do you know how much superhighways take to maintain? The Internet is the information superhighway, so the taxes go to pay for travel on it.
I already pay to maintain the internet infrastructure, when I pay my ISP.
Falcon
That being said, any serious writing that I do, and certainly any collaborative work, is always done in Word.
And how compatible is your Word docs made in OS X with Office for Windows, and visa versa? I haven't used it, I use NeoOffice, so I don't know but some comments above say they are not that compatible.
Falcon
If you need seamless MS Office interoperablity stick with MS Office./P.
MS Office does not offer compatibility between different versions though. If you want a document to display the same on different platforms, and do not need to edit documents then .pdf is the best format to use.
Falcon
The common reason I find for people emailing word documents is when they are negotiating contracts. Then you see .docs being emailed between the parties and their advisers, with people suggesting various changes to the document.
However if different parties are using different Office versions they can have compatibility problems as people above have pointed out.
Falcon
This is what happened in Tiananmen Square in China: The students who rose up were not joined by others. Military forces who were not only loyal to the regime but hostile to the students were brought in, and the students were crushed.
Yes military units had to be brought in, because local army units refused to fire on the protesters. Deng Xiaoping even "went as far as ordering the 12th Army, with which he had a close relationship, be moved to Beijing soon after 4 June to guard against a military coup".
Falcon
How come nobody talks what has happened this past week and is still happening in Honduras?
And what about the coup in Madagascar?
Falcon
And what would fossil fuels cost if all the externalities were assigned to the consumer? The free market is far from perfect,
It would be more expensive however it is not a free market. We go to war over oil and coal gets subsidies. Neither of these make a free market.
Oh and farm subsidies are proving to be quite beneficial right now, we're at about 2/3rds the unemployment of the great depression yet noone is starving.
Yea, but it's not farmers who benefit it's the multinational corporations like Archer Daniels Midland, AMD, and Cargill who do, they get billions of dollars in subsidies. They can then export to Mexico corn cheaper than Mexican farmers can grow it. Yes, export. The US is one of the largest exporters of agricultural products in the world. Meanwhile corporate farms drive small farmers off their own farms.
Falcon
Note that you can compromise Tor a lot more easily if you can also block it.
Yes it's easy to block Tor, just cut off the net in Iran. If the net is not cut off they can't do much to compromise Tor. That's because anybody, with the skills, computer, and net access can set up Tor. Because of what's going on in Iran someone posted how to setup Tor in Ubuntu.
Falcon
They could see which Iranians are using TOR which might be enough to get the user into big trouble. They might not see the originator but that doesn't really matter if they just want to collect Iranian IPs of people using TOR.
They'd only be able to get the IPs of those who used one own of their own TOR nodes first. Traffic between nodes does not reveal the IP making the request.
falcon
Either the tanks stop, or the next place the people meet is outside Mahmoud Ahmadinejads' house with brick and chain.
Assuming their army either runs out of bullets or refuses to shoot, and of course that there are actually enough people willing to risk their lives.
Some Army groups based near Beijing where Tiananmen Square is located refused to fire. The commander of the 38th Army, who feigned sickness, was one commander who refused. Because Deng Xiaoping, the Chinese leader, didn't want a military coup to happen he ordered "the 12th Army, with which he had a close relationship, be moved to Beijing soon after 4 June".
Falcon
I'm not holding my breath for an M14 or M16.
AR-15s are relatively easy to convert to automatic. Of course I'd prefer an M14 or M1. Heck I'd prefer an AK47 over an M16. When I was in the Army we used to joke that if we found an AK47 on the ground we'd drop our M16 and pick up the '47. They aren't as accurate as M16s but like Timex watches they can take a licking and keep on ticking. M16s jamb too easily.
Falcon
Seeing as how you do not want to have a reasonable and rational discussion this is my last reply.
Go troll somewhere else.
Falcon
For most people, if it doesn't have Word & Excel, it doesn't have "all the apps needed for an office".
Open Office has Writer in place of Word, and Calc for Excel. I've opened both Word and Excel documents with them. In the 4 or 5 years I've used OO I only had one problem, when I tried to open a .docx document. It wouldn't open, however I then updated OO and it opened fine. Personally I, and many others, don't like being locked into a proprietary format.
And it came with an OS from a company that treats it's customers like criminals.
Propaganda slogan.
BS!!! It's true, MS treats it's users like criminals. It's one think to require a key to use an app but it's totally different to require the app access to the net so it can contact MS's servers for Activation. It's also treating users like criminals when apps install a bunch of spyware such as Windows Genuine Advantage.
If I buy software the most that I should need to use it is to type a product key, that came in the box, it shouldn't require contacting the mother ship. Or phoning the office. Yet MS is the only one I know that requires that. Neither Linux nor Macs do. I don't know but I heard Autocad also requires it.
My other reason was because I got sick and tired of my Windows PCs constantly crashing
Funny thing, my Windows PC does not crash.
Two out of three Windows PCs I bought new did. The third one didn't crash but because it's CPU was a DEC Alpha and it ran NT4 Workstation I was barely able to get software installed on it so I didn't use it much. Also the first tyme I used a PC with XP, installed on a brand new PC the college I was taking a class at just got, it froze while booting up. All I could do to get it running was holding the power button in and doing a hard reboot. Windows 2000 PCs I used in classes also crashed, and gave me the Blue Screen of Death.
I also had to have hardware replaced on my PCs, I had to replace the motherboards and harddisks on two new Windows PC within a year. Okay so one was a Gateway so not that good however the other was an HP. On both I had to reinstall Windows along with all my software as well. And I didn't decide to do it on my own. I'd have a problem with the Gateway and would call tech support. After the tech had me run through some tests I was told I needed to reformat and reinstall Windows. This happened a couple of more tymes the first year. This when I got the HP I had similar problems and ended up reinstalling Windows on it too.
having to replace hardware
On a Windows PC you actually *can* replace hardware.
There's a different between being able to replace or install hardware and having to because the hardware failed. As I said above I had to have hardware replaced when it failed. I have also added hardware. When I bought it I also bought a harddisk and a graphics card I then installed on the HP. I wanted a second harddisk because I was going to set the PC up dualboot and install Linux on it. The second graphics card was so I could drive two monitors. I never did install Linux though, because the original hardware was not compatible. So I ended up using the second drive for more storage.
After going through BS trying to use Windows PCs for years I gave up and switched.
Falcon
where the integration and form factor are hidden behind a desk or in a server room, I could just as well grab a non-Apple machine and be just as happy. But for laptops, imacs, and even powermacs, you just can't get a machine with matching integration and ergonomics from commodity components as such.
Depending on who makes the server hardware OEM prices can be either less or more than Macs. The Mac Pro is a good workstation and when I configured Dell and HP workstations they cost considerably more than the Mac Pro. And what many may not know is that Apple also makes some good mass storage systems, such as the Xsan, and servers like the Xserve.
But for laptops, imacs, and even powermacs
Personally I think the all-in-ones, whether the iMac or Dell's or HP's offerings are a waste. As is the Mac Mini. The integration of the various lines are pretty good though I don't care about some of them. Such as the built-in iSight camera. Others obviously love it though, any number of tymes I walked into an Apple store and saw teens playing around with them.
Personally if I wanted a web cam I'd prefer one with higher resolution. That's why I haven't gotten a digital camera yet, I want one with high res. Then again I want to start working as a photographer. So until I can afford a good DSRL I'll stick with my 35mm and scan my film.
Falcon
It is still a failure. All these years, they've been employing a group of programmers writing their own version of Linux. Think about the costs.
It's not a failure, it would have been if they had rushed into switching over. But I agree they could have saved money by using a disto that was available instead of programming their own.
This is a perfect example of how Open Source cult is a cost to the many
Really? Linux and open source is costly? The last new PC I bought cost me $200 and came with Linux preinstalled as well as all the apps needed for an office except a database, which I could have downloaded. The cheapest Windows PC fro the same store was twice that. And it came with an OS from a company that treats it's customers like criminals. That was one of 2 big reasons I switched from Windows, to Linux and Mac. My other reason was because I got sick and tired of my Windows PCs constantly crashing, having to replace hardware, and reinstalling Windows. What's more costly is paying for something that is not usable!!!
Falcon
I've got Dell hardware from the 90s working fine.
The first tyme I used one Dell, a brand new one with XP, it froze while booting up. The only thing I could do to get it working was to push in the power button until it powered down then reboot.
What's your point?
You bad mouthed Macs so I listed all the problems with Windows PCs I've had. That's my point!
Oh, and get this: I get the latest version of my OS of choice too!
I have the lated updated version of one of my OSes of choice, 10.5.7. And I plan to install another choice for an OS, Ubuntu Studio 9.04. I've been waiting for a book about it to come out, I see Amazon is now carrying "Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop Handbook" which I'll check later today to see if local book stores have it so I can check it out. I'd rather get one about 9.04 like "A Practical Guide to Ubuntu Linux" but it's not out yet.
There's nothing special about mac hardware. It doesn't last long. Apple is an OEM. Maybe quality was better back in the day
My Mac lasted more than twice as long without problems as 2 of my Windows PCs and one and a half tymes as long as a Linux PC.
Maybe quality was better back in the day, but brown iPhones, aluminum macs (seriously? it's not even thick!)
Either you're trolling or you're ignoring I said. I wouldn't get an iPhone. And my MacBook Pro is less than 2 years old. As for Macs being thin, I'd rather that than carrying a ton around, though I admit I might get a pro Mac laptop if Apple made one like a Panasonic Toughbook. And as for easy breakage, I had a Gateway laptop that I was carrying in a bag when I slipped on ice getting out of my car. It was less than 3' off the ground yet the LCD cracked. I called tech support and they said they didn't cover that. So I asked how much it would cost to repair and they couldn't even tell me, they just said between $300 and $1200. Twelve hundred dollars? That's half what I paid for it. After having it less than 3 months it became useless.
Foxconn motherboards (*shudder*)
I don't know who makes Mac logic boards but Foxconn makes motherboards for PCs. I've been thinking about getting a new mobo for my Linux PC, but I don't know what I'll get. I know it depends on what CPU I'd get but I'm not sure which one I'll get either. I know I'd like the mobo to have both USB2 and Firewire 800 and the CPU be good to use in a server, development platform, and graphics editing.
and all the issues with magsafe make me stamp a big "DONOTWANT" over apple parts.
I have not had a problem with the magsafe.
Falcon
10% of desktops running Linux 6 years after the migration started?? It's an utter failure.
First it's not been 6 years, it hasn't been more than 4 years. Yes, the migration was supposed to start in 2003, however it was put on hold. In 2004 they decided a study was needed "to clear up legal insecurities related to software patents. The actual migration has been running since 2005."
Secondly they never meant to switch over to Linux all at once. Instead they planned to switch people to FOOS applications first. Meaning switching from IE to Firefox, MS Office to OpenOffice, Outlook to Thunderbird. Once people could use those then the OS would be switched to Linux. And for those apps that are needed but can't be replaced by a FOOS app, then run it in WINE.
While only 10% of the desktops have been migrated to Linux 60% of users use OpenOffice.org instead of MS Office.
Falcon
I'm wondering if they have a percentage of the city employees who, after using Linux at work, have migrated over to Linux at home?
Now I'd think that would be a better indication of Linux's success or failure.
Falcon
Bearing in mind that the have migrated only 10% of desktops in 6 years
One reason the migrations has been slow is because in 2004 they decided they wanted to do a study, the "study was conducted to clear up legal insecurities related to software patents. The actual migration has been running since 2005." Still it has been a long tyme.
Falcon
The Declaration of Independence: The LiMux Project in Munich has more info on the failure. For instance one reason the migration has been delayed is because of concern about software patents, the city wanted to do a study because of legal insecurities.
Falcon
I might concede however NT4 is normally used on servers (it's a bit expensive for the desktop)
For my personal use, I have NY 4 Workstation on an old PC. I don't recall how much it cost but I don't think that NT4 was that expensive.
And BTW it was the best version of Windows I've used.
Falcon
well if you have 0% revenue
Can you tell me how a business with no revenue can make $140 million in profits in the first quarter? Or did you mean Apple not Red Hat? Apple's Q1 profits were $2,971.00 billion.
Falcon
trolling or not but the guy might be onto something with the last one, what profit did Canonical make recently?
I don't know about Canonical but Red Hat's Q1, first quarter, profits were $140.57 million and Novell's Q2 were $170.31 million. Those aren't in Microsoft's ballpark but there is profit being made. Now IBM's, who's a big player in Linux, Q1 profit was $9,430.00 billion whereas Microsoft's was 10,834.00. MS beats IBM but only by $1.4 billion.
Falcon
I would never buy a Mac especially not with all the reliability problems they have
I say the same about PCs. I am typing this on my first new Mac and I've owned it about 22 months. The first, and only, hardware problem I have had with it I had repaired about 5 months ago. And I have only had to reinstall the OS twice, one of those when I replaced the original harddisk drive with a bigger one. On the other hand I bought 4 new PCs 3 of which I had to have the motherboard and 2 of which of which I had to have the harddisk drive replaced in the first year. Of the 4 new PCs only one did not have to be repaired in the first year. Two of the 3 I also had to reinstall the OS at least once the first year and repeatedly afterwards.
Now I said above this was my first new Mac, but I also have bought 2 used Macs. The first one was a Mac SE30 I bought in 1992, 4 years after it was released. It lasted without hardware problems until 2000. A few months after it died I bought a Powermac 7300/200 made in 1997. It lasted until 2006 without hardware problems. And I did not have to reinstall any software on either one.
Quite simply Macs tend to last longer than Windows PCs.
why pay more (the Apple tax) for less hardware
Before buying my MacBook Pro I compared it's price to various Windows OEM laptops, and it's price was comparable to them. Some were cheaper but others were more expensive. A similarly configured Dell was $200 more.
So I am not surprised at all that currently people at open-source conferences are using iPhones. I recently bought one for myself
I'd replace my MBP with a new one and would buy a Mac Pro for a desktop workstation/server and maybe an Apple Cinema Display, that's all the Apple hardware I'm interested in buying. I have no interest in an iPod or any other mpg player. And for now my 3 year old cellphone works fine for me. I'd only replace it with with a cellphone I could tether my laptop to for broadband access, which the iPhone does not do.
Falcon
how can the price/performance ratio be unbeatable, when they use the same products, but charge more for them?
2009 calling. Mac prices have been relatively comparable to Windows PC prices for years, why does this mime not die? Of course a buyer has to start with a Mac then configure a PC for similar specs, you can't just say you want a mini or mid tower then try to get a Mac version. Apple doesn't make one.
Falcon