Besides transmission issues, what about land use? I mean, what will we eat if all our agricultural land is covered by wind turbines?
Actually wind turbines add another source of income to farmers. They don't take up much space, and depending on how it's structured, farmers get royalties on the energy produced. Here's a report on wind turbines in Minnesota corn fields, "Innovation in the fields". The royalties come to more than the loss of income from farming. There are also plenty of places to cite wind farms where there is little activity. The Rocky Mountains and the Southwest for instance. To the east offshore from Cape Cod to Cape Hatteras is good. Also in the east from the Appalachians up into the Catskills and Poconos Mountains there are good places.
They already do this quite regularly with the oldest green source of power you managed to omit: Hydroelectric.
According to a UN study I read hydroelectric dams are economically poor, cost more than the proposals said, and do not return the economic benefits they were sold are providing. I didn't find the study but I found this: "UN study advises caution over dams". And then there are problems with dams like those on the Klamath River in southern Oregon and northern California or the Three Gorges Dam in China. Indian tribes in Oregon by treaty have rights to salmon that use the Klamath, however the dams prevent salmon from making it to their spawning grounds. In China the government forcibly relocated more than 1 million people, and India is doing the same for a new dam there.
Luddite civilization into the stone age, and then complain about the lack of affordable power. Californians are the worst at this -- in the US, anyway.
No, I think the East Coast beats California in NIMBYs. While CA has wind and solar farms operating now, and have been running for years, on the East Coast NIMBYs do everything they can to stop wind farms off the coast from Cape Cod to Cape Hatteras.
Placing that many turbines in very remote areas is going to be ridiculously expensive to run transmission lines to
The Tech Review article "Rebuilding the Power Grid says "Grid-related power outages and problems with power quality reportedly cost the nation $80 billion to $188 billion per year" already so the grid needs to be rebuilt anyway.
we need to take a serious look at MODERN nuclear power, especially with re-using the waste,
I'll support reprocessing the waste we have now but I don't support building other new nuclear power plants. We have enough potential energy from geothermal, solar, and wind to power the US. The wind potential in the Rock Mountains alone is enough to power the 48 contiguous states. And other ares for wind as well as the west coast for solar and that's plenty of energy. Until energy storage is worked out natural gas fired and nuclear reprocessing plants could provide the baseload.
Now people are whining about the noise and environmental impact.
NIMBYs have been whinnying and blocking wind farms for years. Near Boston, Cape Cod is a good place for offshore wind farms however NIMBYs including Kennedy has opposed them.
How much energy will it take to create these wind turbines?
The last ROEI, Return on Energy Invested or the length of tyme wind genies need to run to produce as much energy as the energy needed to make the genies, was something like 5 years. Given that there are still Jacobs wind turbines still running after 50 years after the last ones were made, that's a pretty good ROEI.
Ditto for the network connecting them to the people who want to use the electricity.
That's the biggest problem to suppling enough electricity everywhere, almost no matter the source of energy. MIT's "Tech Review" published the article "Lifeline for Renewable Power" going over this. Basically HVDC, High-voltage direct current, transmission lines would have to be strung up to distribute electricity from where it's produced to where it's used. It would also require a smart grid. Even without HVDC lines strung up, the power outages or blackouts in the Northeastern US/South Eastern Canada a few years ago showed the power grids need to be upgraded.
Actually buildings and cats kill many more birds than wind turbines do. The wind genies that killed a lot of birds are the old ones that spun fast, spun at high rpms. Modern genies spin slow and are safer.
That's what I meant, if a robber breaks into your home and you have to take the tyme to unlock your gun you could end up dead. What's worse is having to unlock a gun case to get the gun.
he was a disgruntled employee with inside access, and didn't have to go through normal security
Thing is is hijackings rarely happen in the US so previous security measures worked fine. We don't need the security theatre we have own. Checking containers of liquid? Please. I always carry one of my CamelBaks with me, whether I'm working in my garden, riding my bike or rollerblading, driving, or flying.
Certainly it is best to avoid the heat of the day, but 9 or 10 at night will do as well and not make you late for work (not a problem for me since I telecommute, but for most it was).
Instead of standing up late people could get up early. As for myself I don't work and am on disability so it doesn't matter much to me either. Last year I mostly watered before hitting the sack, which was in the morning most days. This year I've only watered a few tymes.
A soaker on a timer works well for avoiding the hot hours. Adding pine bark over the soil cuts way down on evaporation.
I hadn't thought of using a timer, but I do use mulch. Many stores sell mulch, Home Depot has bags of cypress, coconut husks, and peanut shells among others. However my city cuts whole trees down as well as trims them then shreds the wood. It then takes the mulch to various locations throughout the city where people can collect it.
For the washing machine, I rigged a garden hose onto the machine. I attached the hook shaped end of the original drain hose onto the end of the garden hose so we can hook it over a 50 gallon trash barrel that sits just outside the door.
You use the barrel as a cistern then. They're not for greywater but gardening centers around here sell cisterns that store water from the rain runoff from roofs. I'd like to do both, collect rainwater and greywater.
Speaking of cisterns, until recently it was illegal to catch rainwater in Colorado. The state recently made it legal. Now many people will question why it was illegal. That's because of the Colorado River Compact. The compact is an agreement between 8 states in the west, mostly desert, to share water from the Colorado River. It used to be that the river drained into the Sea of Cortez or Gulf of California. Though by treaty Mexico has rights to water from the river, very little water ever reaches the Gulf.
I'd like to re-run the tub drain as well, but I'd have to tear out half of the bathroom to do it.
Because of leaks we had to do that to my mother's house. The bathtub, sink, and the toilet all started leaking so we ended up breaking through the concrete floor and digging out the dirt under it to fix the leaks. I didn't know better then, but if I had to redo it I'd set up a cistern to catch the water.
cash gets an IMMEDIATE credit to your account whereas a check, regardless of who issues it, means at least a ten day hold on the funds.
Only if you have a history of writing/depositing hot checks.
It may work that way where you bank, but it's not that way everywhere. I am on disability however my sister gets the money not me. She has the money electronically deposited in an account she opened up as my representative in the same bank I have my own account. She then writes me a check from that account. Now if I deposit the check into my account at the bank before, I think it's 1 pm, I have to way at least one day before the money is available. If it's after that I have to wait at least 2 days. I once had to wait a week, even though the check was from the same bank as my account is in. Because of this I started cashing the check after which I'll deposit the cash in my account. If I do that the money is available right away.
Well, I don't like them because they keep forgetting about the Second Amendment.
The NRA and others already fight for those issues.
I didn't know before but ACLU opposes the individual right to bear arms. ACLU's position is that the right to bare arms is a collective right. I used to support them, but I longer can. It'd be fine if they held no position but in opposing an individual right, when all the other rights in the Bill of Rights are individual rights, I will no longer support them.
all this guy did was hold up other travelers who were trying to get to their destination and make life harder for himself.
No, by doing what he did he's stood up for everybody's rights. You may be willing to give up liberty so you can feel safe, even though you never will be, but many of us prefer to live as freemen.
If the ACLU has their way, then security will removed completely
Well, it's been almost eight years since a plane has been hijacked.
And how many hijacks were carried out before DHS? Sure 5 planes were hijacked in one day but when was the last one before that? Searching, the last hijacking I found that happened before 911 in the US was FedEx Flight 705 on 7 April 1994, 7 years before 911.
Except most of the people who are getting burned weren't thinking about the "long term".
Unfortunately this is all too true. Too many people, including business types, only think about the quick buck. Sure I'd like the quick buck too but I'm willing to wait and let compound interest work. I don't work and don't own my own place, however my sister does own the apartment building I live in and her plan is to sell the property to me for the amount left on the mortgage when I can qualify. When I finally own it I want to save and invest as much money as I can then buy another building. As it is now because I don't work, I'm on disability, I expect it take a long tyme before I can qualify but I hope to start working as a photographer/web developer RSN.
As far as airports are concerned, unless government owns the airport it should not be screening people. Now I have no problem if an airliner wants to screen people boarding their planes but not the government.
The legal limit for carrying cash is $9,999 (or maybe $10,000).
There is no legal limit to carrying cash. Financial institutions do have to report cash transactions of $10,000 or more but it's still legal to have on your person more than that.
It is no different how you are being a big dick by not letting me look through all of your possessions, with the poor excuses of "They aren't yours" and "These things are mine" and "You have no right to touch and keep my property"
A person standing up for their rights is not a dick, however making demands you have to right to make is being one.
I suspect they meant for the hand held + only between midnight and 10A.M. to get people to just give up on watering.
Do they require watering between midnight and 10am? Early morning is actually the best tyme to water, it's still cool. Watering while it's still cool allows more water to soak into the ground and reach plant roots. If you water when it's warmer or hotter more of the water will evaporate. Though not all the tyme I try to water my garden in the morning before the sun rises for this reason.
Last year, because my bathtub was clogged and didn't drain, I even used the bath water to water my garden. I have a 5 gallon container I'd fill up with water from the tub then use a 1 gallon watering can to apply the water directly at the base of the plant stems. My landlord finally sent a plumber to fix the drain, after months, but I've been thinking about using a stopper to allow the tub to fill up while I take a shower when showering. But I hate standing in the dirty water. Perhaps I can put a foot stool or something in the tub to stand on.
However it's done, I'd like to use the greywater from the tub, sinks, and washing machine to water my garden.
I do not believe a single international standard is practical. I believe it should remain at a national level.
I both agree and disagree. Each nation should be able to use it's own standard, but at the same tyme a bunch of standards would create more burdens on international trade.
Or if one nation (as the U.S. did before) had a standard, and others established an exchange rate.
This ma cause other problems. Say one nation sets an exchange rate based on the US dollar then it's economy crashes. What effect will that have on the US dollar?
Last year, we were permitted to water plants for 1 hour every other day but only with a single hand held hose. Other outdoor water use including car washing was prohibited.
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moving power over a thousand miles normally is wasteful even though there are a few places in the world where it is done.
Long distance isn't that wasteful if the electricity is High-voltage direct current. According to the wiki article losses are about 3% per 1,000 km.
Falcon
Besides transmission issues, what about land use? I mean, what will we eat if all our agricultural land is covered by wind turbines?
Actually wind turbines add another source of income to farmers. They don't take up much space, and depending on how it's structured, farmers get royalties on the energy produced. Here's a report on wind turbines in Minnesota corn fields, "Innovation in the fields". The royalties come to more than the loss of income from farming. There are also plenty of places to cite wind farms where there is little activity. The Rocky Mountains and the Southwest for instance. To the east offshore from Cape Cod to Cape Hatteras is good. Also in the east from the Appalachians up into the Catskills and Poconos Mountains there are good places.
Falcon
They already do this quite regularly with the oldest green source of power you managed to omit: Hydroelectric.
According to a UN study I read hydroelectric dams are economically poor, cost more than the proposals said, and do not return the economic benefits they were sold are providing. I didn't find the study but I found this: "UN study advises caution over dams". And then there are problems with dams like those on the Klamath River in southern Oregon and northern California or the Three Gorges Dam in China. Indian tribes in Oregon by treaty have rights to salmon that use the Klamath, however the dams prevent salmon from making it to their spawning grounds. In China the government forcibly relocated more than 1 million people, and India is doing the same for a new dam there.
Falcon
Luddite civilization into the stone age, and then complain about the lack of affordable power. Californians are the worst at this -- in the US, anyway.
No, I think the East Coast beats California in NIMBYs. While CA has wind and solar farms operating now, and have been running for years, on the East Coast NIMBYs do everything they can to stop wind farms off the coast from Cape Cod to Cape Hatteras.
Placing that many turbines in very remote areas is going to be ridiculously expensive to run transmission lines to
The Tech Review article "Rebuilding the Power Grid says "Grid-related power outages and problems with power quality reportedly cost the nation $80 billion to $188 billion per year" already so the grid needs to be rebuilt anyway.
we need to take a serious look at MODERN nuclear power, especially with re-using the waste,
I'll support reprocessing the waste we have now but I don't support building other new nuclear power plants. We have enough potential energy from geothermal, solar, and wind to power the US. The wind potential in the Rock Mountains alone is enough to power the 48 contiguous states. And other ares for wind as well as the west coast for solar and that's plenty of energy. Until energy storage is worked out natural gas fired and nuclear reprocessing plants could provide the baseload.
Falcon
Now people are whining about the noise and environmental impact.
NIMBYs have been whinnying and blocking wind farms for years. Near Boston, Cape Cod is a good place for offshore wind farms however NIMBYs including Kennedy has opposed them.
Falcon
How much energy will it take to create these wind turbines?
The last ROEI, Return on Energy Invested or the length of tyme wind genies need to run to produce as much energy as the energy needed to make the genies, was something like 5 years. Given that there are still Jacobs wind turbines still running after 50 years after the last ones were made, that's a pretty good ROEI.
Ditto for the network connecting them to the people who want to use the electricity.
That's the biggest problem to suppling enough electricity everywhere, almost no matter the source of energy. MIT's "Tech Review" published the article "Lifeline for Renewable Power" going over this. Basically HVDC, High-voltage direct current, transmission lines would have to be strung up to distribute electricity from where it's produced to where it's used. It would also require a smart grid. Even without HVDC lines strung up, the power outages or blackouts in the Northeastern US/South Eastern Canada a few years ago showed the power grids need to be upgraded.
Falcon
...would be bloody terminal.
Actually buildings and cats kill many more birds than wind turbines do. The wind genies that killed a lot of birds are the old ones that spun fast, spun at high rpms. Modern genies spin slow and are safer.
Falcon
When the US dictates the law. Of course it makes sure there're loopholes for it.
Falcon
Your second example, though genuine, did not happen in a world where the internet abounds.
And how well is the internet working in Iran? Or China?
Falcon
Robber: *Bang*, you're dead.
Gun: lies uselessly by gun-owner's side.
That's what I meant, if a robber breaks into your home and you have to take the tyme to unlock your gun you could end up dead. What's worse is having to unlock a gun case to get the gun.
Falcon
he was a disgruntled employee with inside access, and didn't have to go through normal security
Thing is is hijackings rarely happen in the US so previous security measures worked fine. We don't need the security theatre we have own. Checking containers of liquid? Please. I always carry one of my CamelBaks with me, whether I'm working in my garden, riding my bike or rollerblading, driving, or flying.
Falcon
Certainly it is best to avoid the heat of the day, but 9 or 10 at night will do as well and not make you late for work (not a problem for me since I telecommute, but for most it was).
Instead of standing up late people could get up early. As for myself I don't work and am on disability so it doesn't matter much to me either. Last year I mostly watered before hitting the sack, which was in the morning most days. This year I've only watered a few tymes.
A soaker on a timer works well for avoiding the hot hours. Adding pine bark over the soil cuts way down on evaporation.
I hadn't thought of using a timer, but I do use mulch. Many stores sell mulch, Home Depot has bags of cypress, coconut husks, and peanut shells among others. However my city cuts whole trees down as well as trims them then shreds the wood. It then takes the mulch to various locations throughout the city where people can collect it.
For the washing machine, I rigged a garden hose onto the machine. I attached the hook shaped end of the original drain hose onto the end of the garden hose so we can hook it over a 50 gallon trash barrel that sits just outside the door.
You use the barrel as a cistern then. They're not for greywater but gardening centers around here sell cisterns that store water from the rain runoff from roofs. I'd like to do both, collect rainwater and greywater.
Speaking of cisterns, until recently it was illegal to catch rainwater in Colorado. The state recently made it legal. Now many people will question why it was illegal. That's because of the Colorado River Compact. The compact is an agreement between 8 states in the west, mostly desert, to share water from the Colorado River. It used to be that the river drained into the Sea of Cortez or Gulf of California. Though by treaty Mexico has rights to water from the river, very little water ever reaches the Gulf.
I'd like to re-run the tub drain as well, but I'd have to tear out half of the bathroom to do it.
Because of leaks we had to do that to my mother's house. The bathtub, sink, and the toilet all started leaking so we ended up breaking through the concrete floor and digging out the dirt under it to fix the leaks. I didn't know better then, but if I had to redo it I'd set up a cistern to catch the water.
Falcon
coke was a nickel
...
I presume that means that cokes were 6 oz.
I seem to recall paying a dime for a 16 oz long neck bottle of Coke, with a deposit.
a gallon of gas was a quarter
Yeap, that's what I paid for gas when I mowed lawns.
Falcon
cash gets an IMMEDIATE credit to your account whereas a check, regardless of who issues it, means at least a ten day hold on the funds.
Only if you have a history of writing/depositing hot checks.
It may work that way where you bank, but it's not that way everywhere. I am on disability however my sister gets the money not me. She has the money electronically deposited in an account she opened up as my representative in the same bank I have my own account. She then writes me a check from that account. Now if I deposit the check into my account at the bank before, I think it's 1 pm, I have to way at least one day before the money is available. If it's after that I have to wait at least 2 days. I once had to wait a week, even though the check was from the same bank as my account is in. Because of this I started cashing the check after which I'll deposit the cash in my account. If I do that the money is available right away.
Falcon
Well, I don't like them because they keep forgetting about the Second Amendment.
The NRA and others already fight for those issues.
I didn't know before but ACLU opposes the individual right to bear arms. ACLU's position is that the right to bare arms is a collective right. I used to support them, but I longer can. It'd be fine if they held no position but in opposing an individual right, when all the other rights in the Bill of Rights are individual rights, I will no longer support them.
Falcon
all this guy did was hold up other travelers who were trying to get to their destination and make life harder for himself.
No, by doing what he did he's stood up for everybody's rights. You may be willing to give up liberty so you can feel safe, even though you never will be, but many of us prefer to live as freemen.
If the ACLU has their way, then security will removed completely
Good!!!
making not only air travel unsafe
Proof it!!!
Falcon
The last flight hijacked that originated in the US before 9/11 was in 1976.
In 1994 an employee of FedEx tried to hijack a FedEx plane, FedEx Flight 705.
Falcon
Well, it's been almost eight years since a plane has been hijacked.
And how many hijacks were carried out before DHS? Sure 5 planes were hijacked in one day but when was the last one before that? Searching, the last hijacking I found that happened before 911 in the US was FedEx Flight 705 on 7 April 1994, 7 years before 911.
Falcon
Except most of the people who are getting burned weren't thinking about the "long term".
Unfortunately this is all too true. Too many people, including business types, only think about the quick buck. Sure I'd like the quick buck too but I'm willing to wait and let compound interest work. I don't work and don't own my own place, however my sister does own the apartment building I live in and her plan is to sell the property to me for the amount left on the mortgage when I can qualify. When I finally own it I want to save and invest as much money as I can then buy another building. As it is now because I don't work, I'm on disability, I expect it take a long tyme before I can qualify but I hope to start working as a photographer/web developer RSN.
Falcon
As far as airports are concerned, unless government owns the airport it should not be screening people. Now I have no problem if an airliner wants to screen people boarding their planes but not the government.
Falcon
The legal limit for carrying cash is $9,999 (or maybe $10,000).
There is no legal limit to carrying cash. Financial institutions do have to report cash transactions of $10,000 or more but it's still legal to have on your person more than that.
Falcon
It is no different how you are being a big dick by not letting me look through all of your possessions, with the poor excuses of "They aren't yours" and "These things are mine" and "You have no right to touch and keep my property"
A person standing up for their rights is not a dick, however making demands you have to right to make is being one.
Falcon
I suspect they meant for the hand held + only between midnight and 10A.M. to get people to just give up on watering.
Do they require watering between midnight and 10am? Early morning is actually the best tyme to water, it's still cool. Watering while it's still cool allows more water to soak into the ground and reach plant roots. If you water when it's warmer or hotter more of the water will evaporate. Though not all the tyme I try to water my garden in the morning before the sun rises for this reason.
Last year, because my bathtub was clogged and didn't drain, I even used the bath water to water my garden. I have a 5 gallon container I'd fill up with water from the tub then use a 1 gallon watering can to apply the water directly at the base of the plant stems. My landlord finally sent a plumber to fix the drain, after months, but I've been thinking about using a stopper to allow the tub to fill up while I take a shower when showering. But I hate standing in the dirty water. Perhaps I can put a foot stool or something in the tub to stand on.
However it's done, I'd like to use the greywater from the tub, sinks, and washing machine to water my garden.
Falcon
I do not believe a single international standard is practical. I believe it should remain at a national level.
I both agree and disagree. Each nation should be able to use it's own standard, but at the same tyme a bunch of standards would create more burdens on international trade.
Or if one nation (as the U.S. did before) had a standard, and others established an exchange rate.
This ma cause other problems. Say one nation sets an exchange rate based on the US dollar then it's economy crashes. What effect will that have on the US dollar?
Falcon
Last year, we were permitted to water plants for 1 hour every other day but only with a single hand held hose. Other outdoor water use including car washing was prohibited.
That's stupid, they should allow soaker hoses.
Falcon