Complaining about the license fee is like complaining that for a measly 1/4 of what the USA spends per head, we get universal health care with no co-pay and fixed prescription costs.
And you may have to wait for health care. While not everyone in the US has access to good health care many international patients come to the US for diagnosis and surgery. In a way I find it weird that while people in northern US states cross the border to buy prescriptions in Canada, Canadians would can afford it go south to cross the border to have surgery in the US. The article "An expensive way to die - criticism of national health insurance" goes over some of this.
public network run as a wholesale service whereby the service providers buy capacity and resell it
That's more than the government needs to be involved in to fix things. All they need to do is provide *fiber* for service providers to resell. Keep it to the absolute minimum that has a natural monopoly, and let the market take care of everything where competition can be provided.
How many fibers will government provide to profit making businesses? Why should my tax money be given to businesses so they can make more money? ComCast's 4Q gross profit was more than $5 Billion and Time Warner Cable's was almost $2.5 Billion. Government or a separate entity building and owning the fiber which then has open access would be better. Best may be to have a coop own it.
Reading your previous post it looks like you're suggesting this. But in this post I'm not sure what you mean. GP says the public owns the infrastructure then wholesales it but you say "That's more than the government needs to be involved in to fix things".
In a way I agree about one entity owning the infrastructure with the requirement that that infrastructure be open. However who's going to spend the money to do research? Without research we wouldn't have fiber.
Blanket labels like that are rather shortsighted. There are many socialized services that do very well and are required for quality of life in the US. Medicaid, medicare, social security, police, fire, public schooling, etc.
While Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security are federal the rest of these are state at most but more likely locally controlled. As for Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security I think it would be better if they were privatized or opened to a free market. Because of a disability and being turned down for health insurance I collect SSI and have Medicare and I don't believe hard working taxpayers should be paying my for disability or health care. As for retirement everyone should plan for and save and invest while they are working for when they do retire.
Your problem is that you seem to have quoted that out of context.
Except I included the part I was replying to, "You can just download and install it." There much more than simply downloading and install it.
You also make one major error in your argument. You have 4 ways to run it.
What 4 ways are there to run it without installing it? Other than the live disk, those you list still require you install it. There is more than one way to install it though. Do you install a 32 bit or 64 bit version? Do you install the desktop, server, or studio version? Do you install the regular or the alternative way? Maybe you'll do a compleat install by erasing the disk, create partitions and keep the current OS. Or maybe you'll install it in a VM with Wubi in the current OS.
3) Let it install, in which case it will give you the choice of doing everything automatically....
Even an average mom and pop can install it with the third method with very little chance of messing it up, even if they have a dual boot set up.
Not if you have uncommon or unusual hardware. Even if you don't it not quite so simple. I hsve a Mac laptop, which are not that uncommon yet if you want the keyboard to work right you have to download and install additional drivers as well as edit a configuration file. Here's a post from someone who had such a problem, "The keyboard backlight on the MacBook 5.1 is not supported as of Jaunty (Ubuntu 9.04) Alpha 5." Now that may of been fixed, but it might not be.
Fact is is I spent a few hours googling on how to install Jaunty Jackalope on my MBP but haven't found anything yet.
Given that it's April now, you need to know what day in April to determine whether it's 33 or 34 years old. Your result may be correct, but your reasoning is spurious...
Microsoft was founded on 4 April 1975. That makes it just over 34 years old.
No, 10.4 to 10.4.1 to 10.4.2 etc. is a service pack.
And Apple doesn't sale those. As I said you pay when going from 10.4 to 10.5. However if you're a developer you don't even pay for that.
10.0, 10.1, and sorta 10.2 weren't great upgrades. Since then each.X has been pretty significant.
10.5 added a lot, however I don't think it's as stable as 10.4 was. I didn't have trouble with it but with 10.5 Finder keeps on freezing on me.
And at least each version is only about $100, and comes in only 1 version.
Leopard cost $130 for a single pack and $200 for the family pack. However that's for the regular version, there is another one. Leopard Server costs $500 for a 10 client license or $1000 for an unlimited client license.
Except for 8.10, which was enough of a disaster that I had to re-install from scratch.
Was 8.10 really a disaster for you? I was thinking of installing 9.04 on my MacBook Pro but after a few hours googling the closest I could find to installing it on MBPs was to install 8.10 then upgrade it.
Shuttleworth has already announced that the color scheme will be changed for 9.10, Karmic Koala. I havn't seen what color it actually is gonna be, but its not brown.
There's a lot of "it's pretty, it's pretty, it's quick, it's pretty"... but no details and no screenshots.
Did you miss the part where TFA says "You won't be able to notice the vast improvement in Ubuntu's desktop experience over the past six months by browsing screenshot galleries of 9.04"? While those screen shots may not have helped a video could, and there's one on YouTube.
Ubuntu 9.04 is not out-of-the-box prettier than previous versions, the author even says not to bother with looking at screenshots, they won't tell you anything useful.
Registry cleaners or defragmentation tools, while seemingly useful, do not have any measurable effect on system speed. It's a great marketing pitch though.
It depends on how much docs are modified and much the hard drive holds. I had one disk about 90% full and it was a bit slow but after I defragged it it ran noticeably faster.
Looks like *someone* is doing their math with an old Pentium.
Unfortunately my brain has been damaged so it throws arithmetic errs such as those old Pentiums Intel didn't acknowledge at first that had a problem. Unfortunately I survived a Traumatic Brain Injury. Yes survived, while I was in a coma the docs told my family it's be a miracle if I lived. If I could I've argue with them about that. I'm trying but I'm not successful much.
there is absolutely no sane reason to use a system like Java with the overhead of a VM when you already know what architecture the binaries will be running on when you build them.
Java let's you run anywhere, you don't need to port software for every platform.
Falcon
Natalie Portman is a killer in "Leon, The Professional".
chrome starts pretty instantly with multiple tabs while firefox starts like it is on life support.
Were you using Firefox 3? I'm still using Firefox 2 and have launched it with a bunch of tabs open. The only issue I ever had, as far as having a bunch of tabs open when launching, was a warning that there were too many tabs and it might run out of memory. On the other hand I've had Firefox crash with just a couple of tabs open.
6. Multi-tasking. Windows 95 just barely had working multi-tasking. Burning a CD back then was a crap shoot. because chances are your computer would freeze up and mess up your PC.
While I've had problems with Win95 burning CDs wasn't one of them. I had no problem burning disks, and that was my backups.
Isn't it strange that people are still surprised that their computers are fast? Computers have gotten ridiculously fast compared during the last 20 years, and still they seem slow to many of us. Is that just the result of crappy programming, or is there more to it?
No it isn't really strange. Just as computers have gotten faster and disk storage bigger applications have kept up the demand. I recall when a cassette tape deck was mass storage. Software can be trimmed so they're not as bloated ans slow but programming is not how it used to be.
Ironically, some would say Microsoft coming into existence is what killed competition, and strangely enough, them leaving the market despite being one less player would allow plenty more to enter, survive, and prosper.
A smaller Microsoft would have the same effect, allow more competitors to survive and prosper.
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Complaining about the license fee is like complaining that for a measly 1/4 of what the USA spends per head, we get universal health care with no co-pay and fixed prescription costs.
And you may have to wait for health care. While not everyone in the US has access to good health care many international patients come to the US for diagnosis and surgery. In a way I find it weird that while people in northern US states cross the border to buy prescriptions in Canada, Canadians would can afford it go south to cross the border to have surgery in the US. The article "An expensive way to die - criticism of national health insurance" goes over some of this.
Falcon
But a private network is NEVER for the public good, and ALWAYS motivated by profit.
Not if it's a coop, specifically a subscriber coop.
Falcon
just throwing pork at privately owned companies is pretty far from socialism, and calling it that is a sign either of confusion or dishonesty.
No, that's called corporate socialism.
Falcon
public network run as a wholesale service whereby the service providers buy capacity and resell it
That's more than the government needs to be involved in to fix things. All they need to do is provide *fiber* for service providers to resell. Keep it to the absolute minimum that has a natural monopoly, and let the market take care of everything where competition can be provided.
How many fibers will government provide to profit making businesses? Why should my tax money be given to businesses so they can make more money? ComCast's 4Q gross profit was more than $5 Billion and Time Warner Cable's was almost $2.5 Billion. Government or a separate entity building and owning the fiber which then has open access would be better. Best may be to have a coop own it.
Reading your previous post it looks like you're suggesting this. But in this post I'm not sure what you mean. GP says the public owns the infrastructure then wholesales it but you say "That's more than the government needs to be involved in to fix things".
Falcon
In a way I agree about one entity owning the infrastructure with the requirement that that infrastructure be open. However who's going to spend the money to do research? Without research we wouldn't have fiber.
Falcon
it's what got us here in the first place
Blanket labels like that are rather shortsighted. There are many socialized services that do very well and are required for quality of life in the US. Medicaid, medicare, social security, police, fire, public schooling, etc.
While Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security are federal the rest of these are state at most but more likely locally controlled. As for Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security I think it would be better if they were privatized or opened to a free market. Because of a disability and being turned down for health insurance I collect SSI and have Medicare and I don't believe hard working taxpayers should be paying my for disability or health care. As for retirement everyone should plan for and save and invest while they are working for when they do retire.
Falcon
Giving shit-tons of money to the nation's largest corporations is not quite socialism.
I call that corporate socialism.
200 billion could have bought a LOT of fibre and routing gear, but instead it bought a bunch of hookers, yachts and bonuses.
As is typical in the US government gives away billions of taxpayer dollars without any oversight.
Falcon
My television viewing is probably about 99% on DVR
Other than CNN about all I watch is movies on DVD and tape.
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They most of been slashdotted as neither is available for me.
Falcon
Your problem is that you seem to have quoted that out of context.
Except I included the part I was replying to, "You can just download and install it." There much more than simply downloading and install it.
You also make one major error in your argument. You have 4 ways to run it.
What 4 ways are there to run it without installing it? Other than the live disk, those you list still require you install it. There is more than one way to install it though. Do you install a 32 bit or 64 bit version? Do you install the desktop, server, or studio version? Do you install the regular or the alternative way? Maybe you'll do a compleat install by erasing the disk, create partitions and keep the current OS. Or maybe you'll install it in a VM with Wubi in the current OS.
3) Let it install, in which case it will give you the choice of doing everything automatically....
Even an average mom and pop can install it with the third method with very little chance of messing it up, even if they have a dual boot set up.
Not if you have uncommon or unusual hardware. Even if you don't it not quite so simple. I hsve a Mac laptop, which are not that uncommon yet if you want the keyboard to work right you have to download and install additional drivers as well as edit a configuration file. Here's a post from someone who had such a problem, "The keyboard backlight on the MacBook 5.1 is not supported as of Jaunty (Ubuntu 9.04) Alpha 5." Now that may of been fixed, but it might not be.
Fact is is I spent a few hours googling on how to install Jaunty Jackalope on my MBP but haven't found anything yet.
Falcon
34, it was founded in April.
Given that it's April now, you need to know what day in April to determine whether it's 33 or 34 years old. Your result may be correct, but your reasoning is spurious...
Microsoft was founded on 4 April 1975. That makes it just over 34 years old.
Falcon
No, 10.4 to 10.4.1 to 10.4.2 etc. is a service pack.
And Apple doesn't sale those. As I said you pay when going from 10.4 to 10.5. However if you're a developer you don't even pay for that.
10.0, 10.1, and sorta 10.2 weren't great upgrades. Since then each .X has been pretty significant.
10.5 added a lot, however I don't think it's as stable as 10.4 was. I didn't have trouble with it but with 10.5 Finder keeps on freezing on me.
And at least each version is only about $100, and comes in only 1 version.
Leopard cost $130 for a single pack and $200 for the family pack. However that's for the regular version, there is another one. Leopard Server costs $500 for a 10 client license or $1000 for an unlimited client license.
Falcon
Except for 8.10, which was enough of a disaster that I had to re-install from scratch.
Was 8.10 really a disaster for you? I was thinking of installing 9.04 on my MacBook Pro but after a few hours googling the closest I could find to installing it on MBPs was to install 8.10 then upgrade it.
Falcon
Shuttleworth has already announced that the color scheme will be changed for 9.10, Karmic Koala. I havn't seen what color it actually is gonna be, but its not brown.
Actually there is brown in Karmic Koala.
Falcon
There's a lot of "it's pretty, it's pretty, it's quick, it's pretty"... but no details and no screenshots.
Did you miss the part where TFA says "You won't be able to notice the vast improvement in Ubuntu's desktop experience over the past six months by browsing screenshot galleries of 9.04"? While those screen shots may not have helped a video could, and there's one on YouTube.
Falcon
Ubuntu 9.04 is not out-of-the-box prettier than previous versions, the author even says not to bother with looking at screenshots, they won't tell you anything useful.
The video on YouTube of 9.04 looks pretty slick.
Falcon
Registry cleaners or defragmentation tools, while seemingly useful, do not have any measurable effect on system speed. It's a great marketing pitch though.
It depends on how much docs are modified and much the hard drive holds. I had one disk about 90% full and it was a bit slow but after I defragged it it ran noticeably faster.
Falcon
I'm typing this on a 20 month old MacBook Pro and I'm thinking about installing Ubuntu on it.
Falcon
Looks like *someone* is doing their math with an old Pentium.
Unfortunately my brain has been damaged so it throws arithmetic errs such as those old Pentiums Intel didn't acknowledge at first that had a problem. Unfortunately I survived a Traumatic Brain Injury. Yes survived, while I was in a coma the docs told my family it's be a miracle if I lived. If I could I've argue with them about that. I'm trying but I'm not successful much.
Falcon
there is absolutely no sane reason to use a system like Java with the overhead of a VM when you already know what architecture the binaries will be running on when you build them.
Java let's you run anywhere, you don't need to port software for every platform.
Falcon
Natalie Portman is a killer in "Leon, The Professional".
chrome starts pretty instantly with multiple tabs while firefox starts like it is on life support.
Were you using Firefox 3? I'm still using Firefox 2 and have launched it with a bunch of tabs open. The only issue I ever had, as far as having a bunch of tabs open when launching, was a warning that there were too many tabs and it might run out of memory. On the other hand I've had Firefox crash with just a couple of tabs open.
Falcon
6. Multi-tasking. Windows 95 just barely had working multi-tasking. Burning a CD back then was a crap shoot. because chances are your computer would freeze up and mess up your PC.
While I've had problems with Win95 burning CDs wasn't one of them. I had no problem burning disks, and that was my backups.
Falcon
Isn't it strange that people are still surprised that their computers are fast? Computers have gotten ridiculously fast compared during the last 20 years, and still they seem slow to many of us. Is that just the result of crappy programming, or is there more to it?
No it isn't really strange. Just as computers have gotten faster and disk storage bigger applications have kept up the demand. I recall when a cassette tape deck was mass storage. Software can be trimmed so they're not as bloated ans slow but programming is not how it used to be.
Falcon
Compare, Gimp with Photoshop
You should compare CinePaint to Photoshop not GIMP.
Falcon
Ironically, some would say Microsoft coming into existence is what killed competition, and strangely enough, them leaving the market despite being one less player would allow plenty more to enter, survive, and prosper.
A smaller Microsoft would have the same effect, allow more competitors to survive and prosper.
Falcon