Anyway, the last 8 years of terrorism talk seem to have you unduly paranoid. A terrorist could totally cripple the US right now by targeting pipelines.
LOL and THAT's supposed to make him feel better? We're just lucky all the terrorists (domestic and foreign) haven't really thought things through all the way.
Terrorists wouldn't have to go that far to find stuff like this. Chuck Norris's movie "Invasion U.S.A. goes along this line.
Also, even if there is enough wind out there to meet our energy needs in the most technical sense (something like the same kWhs in wind per year as the US uses in a year), it doesn't account for daytime peak and seasonal usage changes.
While TFA says offshore wind farms in the Atlantic can provide a quarter of the US's electricity it doesn't say the Rockies can provide all of the need for electricity. The Wind Energy Resource Atlas of the United States lists more wind potential. Then the Sciam article "A Solar Grand Plan" details how solar power can provide 69% of the US's electricity by 2050. Add geothermal and tidal and alternative energy sources can provide all the electrical needs of the US.
We need a mix of power plant types in order to function.
Agreed!!!
base load
Geothermal can be used as a base load. And the Sciam article covers energy storage from solar.
Also weak considering the alternative is routing our energy supply through the Persian Gulf.
Though shipping oil through the Persian Gulf does affect us the US doesn't get much oil from there. Of the US's foreign oil supply 3 of the 4 largest suppliers to the US are in "our back yard". Canada is the US's biggest supplier, Mexico is the second biggest, and Venezuela is the third or fourth largest.
No, others have said something about making P2P illegal because it's used for copyright infringement. However there are perfectly legal uses for file sharing and P2P.
But I thought that 1C was the predicted temperature change after 90 more years of all of the global carbon emissions
No, "the IPCC projects a best estimate of global temperature increase of 1.8 - 4.0C with a possible range of 1.1 - 6.4C by 2100". They say the temperature has already increased 1C since the 1800s.
Not only that...I'd hope we'd NOT try to put all our country's energy eggs in this one basket.
talk about single point of failure. If another country (or terrorist) wanted to seriously hurt the US, they'd just have to target a broad swath of these offshore windmills. A pretty easy target I'd think?
Something I noticed about what TFA says, how wind power off the east coast could provide a 1/4 of the national demand, though it says that it doesn't say the wind potential of the Rockies could supply all 48 continuous states with electricity. The Wind Energy Resource Atlas of the United States lists wind resources regionally.
I'm sure there are laws about international waters, but does the closest state own the rights to waters offshore?
Coastal states can control 3 miles offshore, that's state waters. Back when divers looked for treasure in sunken ships off the Florida coast whenever treasure was recovered within state waters the state got a cut of the treasure.
I interpret that as meaning "can get broadband of some sort if they chose to pay for it"; if that's the case, then the numbers given for cities and suburbs are shockingly low -- so low, in fact, that I don't believe that the phrase means what it appears to mean. I'd guess they mean "actually have broadband in their home," in which case the figure cited for rural areas in meaningless if we're talking about potential broadband penetration.
It would be nice if we could use this new wireless network on our smart phones and then let us tether our phones to our computers so that we could use it on the go and at home for one "reasonable price."
Yea, I read in an article on CNet broadband will be fixed not mobile.
I hope no one tells him that many rich people are going to get a lot richer thanks to this. Or that it would have been done anyway without the "stimulus" because it's a huge fat cash cow!
The thing is is incumbent broadband providers are fighting tooth and nail to stop competition. I wouldn't surprised to see the same thing here.
That makes me feel a little better about the world
Depending on how you look at it, it can be either fortunate or unfortunate, but different funds focus on different criteria when deciding what corporations they invest in. Some don't invest in alcohol, firearms, and or tobacco businesses. Some invest in businesses that meet certain employment criteria, such as paying and treating employees well. Others look at businesses environmental records. A corporation that meets one fund's criteria may not meet another's. Here's more on screens SRI funds use.
Unless I can open a terminal, run something "apt-get install emacs" and have it install off
of the installation media then the OS vendor is clearly trying to hide it
To install apt-get or.deb packages on Macs with Fink or Macports can be used to install.rpm packages. It's recommended that both Fink and Macports NOT be used on the same Mac. Here's how emacs can be installed on Macs.
all of this fanboy nonsense about MacOSX being Unix is just nonsense.
Is it just as easy to install Unix programs in Solaris or Iris? What about AIX? Tru64? BSD, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, or NetBSD? If not then according to you they aren't Unices either
The problem with the idea that Apple will continue to try to build products that you want to pay for is clear: you are only one person.
There are many others who buy Apple products as well.
Apple is trying to serve the lowest common denominator.
Quite the contrary, Apple is more elitist than pro common man. Steve Jobs has said as much when he said he did not want to serve those who wanted a cheap expandable Mac. I love Macs, I'm typing this on my MacBook Pro, but I hate this elitism. As many other/.ers have pointed out there could be a big market for OS X on cheap PCs.
Apple is about peer pressure. It is not about providing the most technically superior product.
I did not get my Mac because of peer pressure, almost everyone I know or knew uses Windows, I switched to Macs and Linux from Windows PCs because it is a superior product. I have had problems with Macs, last Thursday I picked mine up from an Apple store where I took it because it did not waken up right. But I've had many more problems with Windows, and a Linux PC, than with Macs. I also switched because I don't like being treated like a criminal, which Microsoft does.
In the end, it is still only about the money because that is the way we measure everything.
Money is part of it but not everyone cares only about it. About 10% of mutual fund investors invest in SRI, Socially Responsible Investment funds. While not everyone is into SRI, it does have a significant impact. For instance it had a big impact in ending apartheid in South Africa.
For example, consider the differences on OSX between how a typical app uses shared libraries (or rather doesn't) and a typical POSIX app uses shared libraries.
Xll comes on the OS X DVD, it does not need to be downloaded, or at least not anymore than it does for Linux. I installed X from the DVD that came with my Mac. When I install Linux, I may install Ubuntu on my Mac, I will also have to install X.
Like what, specifically? What characteristics of unix do you feel MacOSX doesn't have?
No usable gui
I'm using the Mac GUI right now and I find it quite usable. However if I wanted I could also use X11 which I have installed. Actually it is less usable than the OS X GUI to me.
I believe more "average people" (primarily Windows refugees since 90% of desktop users are currently using Windows) can quickly get comfortable with Ubuntu or even Fedora, than with OS X.
I don't know but I'd think it would be roughly evenly split for people switching from Windows to Linux or Macs. I switched from Windows to first Linux then OS X and I found OS X a little easier. The biggest difference between them was the mouse, er trackpad on my Mac, which only has one button. However two button mice work with OS X, my trackball has two buttons. However I use key press/clicks as I did with Windows and I picked up on that pretty quickly.
Certainly Open Office and Evolution are more like the familiar Microsoft Office and Outlook than are the equivalent OS X apps.
Open Office has a version I have installed on my Mac. There is also Evolution for OS X.
Any OS requiring >90% of configuration changes to be made in a GUI does not count as UNIX, in my book.
So you don't agree that many apps that run in Linux are Unix apps? Google's Linux Software Repositories has instructions on GUI Configuration on Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty). The net is filled with instructions on how to configure app GUIs.
regardless of whether the jury is instructed that they can use jury nullification, or even if they're instructed that they can't use it, a jury may possibly refuse to convict anyway. In that case, I don't believe there's anything the judge or prosecutor or anyone else can do.
The thing is is I doubt many people have ever heard of never mind know about jury nullification.
Calling MacOSX a 'commercial unix' just doesn't taste right coming out of the mouth.
Mac OSX doesn't sound or look like a commercial Unix because of it's nice, which some disagree with, and shiny GUI. Apple doesn't spend much billing it as Unix either.
I could understand if defense attorneys or judges are barred from instructing the jury that they're allowed to use jury nullification, but I can't see how the practice can be stopped.
It's not just that judges are barred from letting juries know about jury nullification, some make an effort to make sure juries will not use it. As for stopping the practice, that's not hard because most people don't even know jury nullification exists. Sure some slashdotters know about it but some don't and/.ers are rather unusual and know, or think they know, more about rights than the general population. Most people I know have never even heard of it, or know what a Fully Informed Jury, FIJA, is.
If the jury finds that a defendant is not guilty, is there any circumstance under which a judge can set that judgement aside and order that the defendant be found guilty?
That I know of, and I'm not any sort of legal scholar, there's only one way a judge can set aside a jury verdict. They have to declare a mistrial, but that I know of that's only used when a jury can't make a decision.
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Anyway, the last 8 years of terrorism talk seem to have you unduly paranoid. A terrorist could totally cripple the US right now by targeting pipelines.
LOL and THAT's supposed to make him feel better? We're just lucky all the terrorists (domestic and foreign) haven't really thought things through all the way.
Terrorists wouldn't have to go that far to find stuff like this. Chuck Norris's movie "Invasion U.S.A. goes along this line.
Falcon
Also, even if there is enough wind out there to meet our energy needs in the most technical sense (something like the same kWhs in wind per year as the US uses in a year), it doesn't account for daytime peak and seasonal usage changes.
While TFA says offshore wind farms in the Atlantic can provide a quarter of the US's electricity it doesn't say the Rockies can provide all of the need for electricity. The Wind Energy Resource Atlas of the United States lists more wind potential. Then the Sciam article "A Solar Grand Plan" details how solar power can provide 69% of the US's electricity by 2050. Add geothermal and tidal and alternative energy sources can provide all the electrical needs of the US.
We need a mix of power plant types in order to function.
Agreed!!!
base load
Geothermal can be used as a base load. And the Sciam article covers energy storage from solar.
Falcon
Also weak considering the alternative is routing our energy supply through the Persian Gulf.
Though shipping oil through the Persian Gulf does affect us the US doesn't get much oil from there. Of the US's foreign oil supply 3 of the 4 largest suppliers to the US are in "our back yard". Canada is the US's biggest supplier, Mexico is the second biggest, and Venezuela is the third or fourth largest.
Falcon
No, others have said something about making P2P illegal because it's used for copyright infringement. However there are perfectly legal uses for file sharing and P2P.
Falcon
But I thought that 1C was the predicted temperature change after 90 more years of all of the global carbon emissions
No, "the IPCC projects a best estimate of global temperature increase of 1.8 - 4.0C with a possible range of 1.1 - 6.4C by 2100". They say the temperature has already increased 1C since the 1800s.
Falcon
Not only that...I'd hope we'd NOT try to put all our country's energy eggs in this one basket.
talk about single point of failure. If another country (or terrorist) wanted to seriously hurt the US, they'd just have to target a broad swath of these offshore windmills. A pretty easy target I'd think?
Something I noticed about what TFA says, how wind power off the east coast could provide a 1/4 of the national demand, though it says that it doesn't say the wind potential of the Rockies could supply all 48 continuous states with electricity. The Wind Energy Resource Atlas of the United States lists wind resources regionally.
Falcon
I'm sure there are laws about international waters, but does the closest state own the rights to waters offshore?
Coastal states can control 3 miles offshore, that's state waters. Back when divers looked for treasure in sunken ships off the Florida coast whenever treasure was recovered within state waters the state got a cut of the treasure.
Falcon
I interpret that as meaning "can get broadband of some sort if they chose to pay for it"; if that's the case, then the numbers given for cities and suburbs are shockingly low -- so low, in fact, that I don't believe that the phrase means what it appears to mean. I'd guess they mean "actually have broadband in their home," in which case the figure cited for rural areas in meaningless if we're talking about potential broadband penetration.
Even in New York City broadband isn't available everywhere.
Falcon
It would be nice if we could use this new wireless network on our smart phones and then let us tether our phones to our computers so that we could use it on the go and at home for one "reasonable price."
Yea, I read in an article on CNet broadband will be fixed not mobile.
Falcon
I hope no one tells him that many rich people are going to get a lot richer thanks to this. Or that it would have been done anyway without the "stimulus" because it's a huge fat cash cow!
The thing is is incumbent broadband providers are fighting tooth and nail to stop competition. I wouldn't surprised to see the same thing here.
Falcon
That makes me feel a little better about the world
Depending on how you look at it, it can be either fortunate or unfortunate, but different funds focus on different criteria when deciding what corporations they invest in. Some don't invest in alcohol, firearms, and or tobacco businesses. Some invest in businesses that meet certain employment criteria, such as paying and treating employees well. Others look at businesses environmental records. A corporation that meets one fund's criteria may not meet another's. Here's more on screens SRI funds use.
Falcon
Unless I can open a terminal, run something "apt-get install emacs" and have it install off of the installation media then the OS vendor is clearly trying to hide it
To install apt-get or .deb packages on Macs with Fink or Macports can be used to install .rpm packages. It's recommended that both Fink and Macports NOT be used on the same Mac. Here's how emacs can be installed on Macs.
all of this fanboy nonsense about MacOSX being Unix is just nonsense.
Is it just as easy to install Unix programs in Solaris or Iris? What about AIX? Tru64? BSD, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, or NetBSD? If not then according to you they aren't Unices either
Falcon
Okay, thanks for explaining that.
Falcon
The problem with the idea that Apple will continue to try to build products that you want to pay for is clear: you are only one person.
There are many others who buy Apple products as well.
Apple is trying to serve the lowest common denominator.
Quite the contrary, Apple is more elitist than pro common man. Steve Jobs has said as much when he said he did not want to serve those who wanted a cheap expandable Mac. I love Macs, I'm typing this on my MacBook Pro, but I hate this elitism. As many other /.ers have pointed out there could be a big market for OS X on cheap PCs.
Apple is about peer pressure. It is not about providing the most technically superior product.
I did not get my Mac because of peer pressure, almost everyone I know or knew uses Windows, I switched to Macs and Linux from Windows PCs because it is a superior product. I have had problems with Macs, last Thursday I picked mine up from an Apple store where I took it because it did not waken up right. But I've had many more problems with Windows, and a Linux PC, than with Macs. I also switched because I don't like being treated like a criminal, which Microsoft does.
Falcon
In the end, it is still only about the money because that is the way we measure everything.
Money is part of it but not everyone cares only about it. About 10% of mutual fund investors invest in SRI, Socially Responsible Investment funds. While not everyone is into SRI, it does have a significant impact. For instance it had a big impact in ending apartheid in South Africa.
Falcon
For example, consider the differences on OSX between how a typical app uses shared libraries (or rather doesn't) and a typical POSIX app uses shared libraries.
OS X is fully POSIX and UNIX03 certified, I don't know about shared libraries though.
The fact is that OSX and standard OSX software is designed with VERY, VERY different ideas than UNIX software.
Yea, I can just drag and drop to install software on my Mac.
Falcon
so it's not a realman's Unix.
Xll comes on the OS X DVD, it does not need to be downloaded, or at least not anymore than it does for Linux. I installed X from the DVD that came with my Mac. When I install Linux, I may install Ubuntu on my Mac, I will also have to install X.
Falcon
Like what, specifically? What characteristics of unix do you feel MacOSX doesn't have?
No usable gui
I'm using the Mac GUI right now and I find it quite usable. However if I wanted I could also use X11 which I have installed. Actually it is less usable than the OS X GUI to me.
Falcon
I believe more "average people" (primarily Windows refugees since 90% of desktop users are currently using Windows) can quickly get comfortable with Ubuntu or even Fedora, than with OS X.
I don't know but I'd think it would be roughly evenly split for people switching from Windows to Linux or Macs. I switched from Windows to first Linux then OS X and I found OS X a little easier. The biggest difference between them was the mouse, er trackpad on my Mac, which only has one button. However two button mice work with OS X, my trackball has two buttons. However I use key press/clicks as I did with Windows and I picked up on that pretty quickly.
Certainly Open Office and Evolution are more like the familiar Microsoft Office and Outlook than are the equivalent OS X apps.
Open Office has a version I have installed on my Mac. There is also Evolution for OS X.
Falcon
Any OS requiring >90% of configuration changes to be made in a GUI does not count as UNIX, in my book.
So you don't agree that many apps that run in Linux are Unix apps? Google's Linux Software Repositories has instructions on GUI Configuration on Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty). The net is filled with instructions on how to configure app GUIs.
Falcon
regardless of whether the jury is instructed that they can use jury nullification, or even if they're instructed that they can't use it, a jury may possibly refuse to convict anyway. In that case, I don't believe there's anything the judge or prosecutor or anyone else can do.
The thing is is I doubt many people have ever heard of never mind know about jury nullification.
Falcon
That's a different question.
Though many don't look or see it that way Apple does support Unix.
Falcon
Calling MacOSX a 'commercial unix' just doesn't taste right coming out of the mouth.
Mac OSX doesn't sound or look like a commercial Unix because of it's nice, which some disagree with, and shiny GUI. Apple doesn't spend much billing it as Unix either.
Falcon
I could understand if defense attorneys or judges are barred from instructing the jury that they're allowed to use jury nullification, but I can't see how the practice can be stopped.
It's not just that judges are barred from letting juries know about jury nullification, some make an effort to make sure juries will not use it. As for stopping the practice, that's not hard because most people don't even know jury nullification exists. Sure some slashdotters know about it but some don't and /.ers are rather unusual and know, or think they know, more about rights than the general population. Most people I know have never even heard of it, or know what a Fully Informed Jury, FIJA, is.
If the jury finds that a defendant is not guilty, is there any circumstance under which a judge can set that judgement aside and order that the defendant be found guilty?
That I know of, and I'm not any sort of legal scholar, there's only one way a judge can set aside a jury verdict. They have to declare a mistrial, but that I know of that's only used when a jury can't make a decision.
Falcon
Who's to say that Windows 7 is going to be much better than Vista?
All of the beta testers for Windows 7 I've heard says it is better than Vista.
Falcon