I'm curious why people choose to leave Microsoft for a company which does even more DRM and lock-in...
The only lockin Apple has is the OS running only on Apple hardware. Seeing as how Apple is a system's integrator and makes the hardware as well as software, I'm not surprised. That's why and how Apple is able to make sure things "just work". However Apple did at one tyme license the Mac OS to third party OEMs. This was while Steve Jobs was gone. When he was brought back he looked at the numbers and saw that by licensing the OS Apple was losing more in lost hardware sales than they made in licenses, so he ended it.
Maybe because their stuff works?
Yeap! My first computer was a used Mac SE30 I bought in 1992. Up until it died in 2000, 8 year later, the only problem I had with it was that it wasn't expandable. My first new computer was a Windows PC from Gateway I bought in 1997 and it ran Win95. A few months after I got it the harddisk died. One week shy of having it a year the motherboard died. I used it 2 years and in that tyme I called tech support and after going through diagnostics they had me reinstall Windows a half dozen tymes. In 2000 I bought a new HP PC Pavilion running WinME. Again within a year the hdd and mb had to be replaced. Also in 2000 I bought another used Mac, PowerMac 7300/200. It worked until 2006 when it refused to bootup. It lasted me 6 years, and it was a few years old, well maybe 3, when I got it.
But it does raise the question -- why not Linux? It'd be much cheaper.
I bet the single biggest reason why more people don't use Linux is because there aren't many PCs that come with Linux preinstalled. And most people don't install an OS, they just buy a computer from the store, plug everything in and power up. They want it working right out of the box.
I don't want vista either, I'd rather stick with XP, but I'll be buying it next year, several copies in fact. So will almost everyone on slashdot, unless they're really linux only bods.
I won't touch Vista with a ten foot pole unless I absolutely have to. And I'm not a Linux only person. Actually, while I do have two PCs running Linux one dualbooting Linux and NT 4.0, I'm typing this on a Macbook Pro. If Microsoft hadn't decided to treat me like a criminal, which is what Activation, WGA/WPA, and all the spyware is there for, I might of stayed with Windows.
Yes, read his blog. He states that he's done this several times before, and he knew what they were going to do. I'd have a completely different attitude if this guy innocently ran into the situation, but he did not.
Ok, sorry about my attitude then.
I wonder why he started it. People don't typically just start something like this on a whim.
Windows 7 will be the product that decides the future of Microsoft. They simply can't afford two crappy releases in a row.
It's too late for that, MS already has a string of bad releases. The only MS Windows version I have not had trouble with was NT 4.0. While I haven't, and refuse to, use Vista the very first tyme I used XP it was on a brand new Dell. I pushed the power button and waited, and waited, and waited. Five minutes later I gave it the three finger salute, once, twice, then a third tyme before I held in the power button. Once, and the first tyme at that, was enough for me.
It has been 3 years since WinXP Service Pack 2 was released, even though updating Windows XP from an SP2 CD requires downloading more than 170 Megabytes of files, a difficult problem when there is no internet connection or only a dial-up connection. The Windows XP updates of just August's Patch Tuesday were more than 20 Megabytes. Microsoft seems to have delayed releasing an SP3 for Windows XP to try to discourage people from using Windows XP.
I don't mean to defend Microsoft, afterall their actions that treat me like a criminal have caused me to migrate to Linux and OS X, but doesn't MS offer upgrade disks now? I ordered one online several years ago and paid $20 for it. I got it in the mail within a few days.
There's one like it for photographers, The Photographer's Right. It's based on the Bust Card. It's recommended they carry it with them because a lot of photographers have been stopped and questioned if not have had their cameras taken while out shooting since 911. One student photographer at the college I was attend then was questioned while working on an assignment for a class. So naturally this became a big topic in the photo classes. Some made commends they didn't want to go out in public to shoot.
He wasn't standing up for his rights - he was being an asshole that started the whole thing on purpose. He was not an innocent bystander that had his rights violated, he purposely picked a fight because he KNEW what was going to happen.
Did you really just equate "showing your receipt upon leaving a retail store" with death?
For ease, yes. I don't know about you but to me it'd be easier to die than to live as a child that needs to have the government control me. I know it's not the state that is saying they want to see the receipt, in this case it was a store employee. However I find it easier to not shop at the store, than to put up with this.
Don't forget - from a legal perspective, once you've served your sentence, you've paid your debt to society. You have the same rights and privileges as anyone else.
Actually this isn't true, at least for felony convictions. Felony ex-cons loose their right to vote. They can petition the state's governor to reinstate the right to vote but the governor doesn't have to do so.
Finally, shouldn't the circumstances of the crime dictate the charges? I.e., charge someone with attempted murder if they actually tried to kill someone? And charge them with battery if it was a simple beating they administered?
That's how it should be however prosecutors will sometimes reduce a charge because they know there's a chance they will lose if it goes to trial, which looks bad on a prosecutor's record. And sometimes a defendant will plead guilty to a reduced charge because they feel they will loose if it goes to trial as well.
A 'poor kid' would have never had the time/resources to fight this, he would have forked over his ID, and took it because he had to.
BS! By no means am I rich; I was born low income, didn't marry rich, heck I don't even have a high paying job. What I am is disabled, however I would do the same thing, stand up for my rights. As Patrick Henry said, "Give me liberty or give me death."
All this means is that he could have avoided a lot of mess for a lot of people by just doing this annoying thing. It isn't very hard. It isn't eroding our rights.
BS! By standing up for his rights, he's standing up for everyone's rights.
'your sort'? Aren't you making a lot of assumptions about him based on a post that made no mention of his political views?
It' wasn't just the one post he read, he wrote "Looking through your other posts, you're obviously no friend of civil liberties. A cursory glance shows you arguing in favor trial-free detention of non-Americans. Why your thinly veiled propaganda gets modded up is a mystery to me."
It's completely another to be an arrogant prick, forcing your will onto others for no good reason, other than he's a complete stubborn moron.
Yeap, that door checker certainly was a stubborn moron.
There's a time and place to pick fights and this example is certainly not one of them. Some people talk about banning Circuit City. If I were running Circuit City, I would ban this asshole from ever being allowed back into the store.
Oh, I see you meant someone who stands up for his rights was the stubborn moron. If you really think that then I think you're the one it should be applied to. If people don't stand up for their rights they soon find they don't have any rights.
If it's a hard and thankless job and it doesn't pay well,
By all means, pay them more. BUT then hold them to a Code of Conduct. Actually I bet if you got rid of all of the victimless crimes on the books such as drug possession and prostitution so that law enforcement can concentrate on violent criminals and the theft and robbery of property the number of officers can be reduced while also making it safer.
Why don't you just admit that you don't like and don't want cops
Wrong. We just don't need as many as we have. On a per capita basis the US has the highest per capita prison population in the world. And a good chunk of the prison population is there for victimless crimes such as drug possession. While mandatory sentencing guidelines can put a person convicted of drug possession in prison for life, robbers, murderers, and rapists can get out after serving several years. Strike all victimless crimes from law books then less prisons will be needed to lockup dangerous criminals.
you just better be ready for a society without police officers (make sure you buy a nice gun, and know how to use it).
Most people should be able to protect themselves anyway. But where needed others can help. Instead of passersby passing by they can help a crime victim. "I don't want to get involved" is BS.
Do I have to remind people we are talking about a guy who refused to show his receipt and identification?
Which he was not required to provide. Would you like it if you were required to wear a Star of David on your sleeve? If not why not?
This isn't the American Revolutionary War. Nor is this part of some civil right movement. Give me a fucking break.
My question, to the Slashdotters of the US, when does it "become necessary"??? THAT is the real question.
It only becomes necessary to overthrow the government after using the first 3 boxes fail; the soapbox, ballot box, and the jury box. Once those have failed then the ammo box can be used.
I thought Laura Bush was a teacher... Ah, she was both. After getting her BS in Education she taught, but then went back to college and got her MS in Library Science. Thanks, I didn't know that.
Yeah, right, 3000 innocent people get killed and everybody overreacts!
And when thousands of innocents die weekly nobody bats an eye. How about when a regime supported by the US massacres 200,000? They don't mean anything either.
Florida (concealed carry): 13.9
Hong Kong (strict gun control): 0.63
I noticed you didn't include a link, so are those homicide rates for all homicides or just those where a firearm was used? I'd like to see a breakdown in the number of homicides were committed by what types of weapons. For instance, I don't know if it's still true, but at one tyme more Japanese a country also with strong gun control laws had a high rate of homicide with swords and other bladed weapons. But even if a population is disarmed it doesn't mean there's less crime or homicides:
During the 19th century, and most of the 20th, Britain enjoyed a well-deserved reputation as an unusually safe and crime-free nation, compared to the United States or continental Europe. No longer.
To the great consternation of British authorities concerned about tourism revenue, a June CBS News report proclaimed Great Britain "one of the most violent urban societies in the Western world." Declared Dan Rather: "This summer, thousands of Americans will travel to Britain expecting a civilized island free from crime and ugliness... [but now] the U.K. has a crime problem... worse than ours."
Not surprisingly to many observers, the violent crime rate has risen dramatically and steadily since gun bans have been instituted. That's a trend seen wherever strict gun control laws have been implemented. And that's the part of the story British officials have tried to keep under wraps.
But the one thing I have learned is that any book that is even remotely controversial to the right-wings in this country is best read with a fake book sleeve covering it. Otherwise you will suffer an endless barrage of ignorance, prejudice and hate.
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I'm curious why people choose to leave Microsoft for a company which does even more DRM and lock-in...
The only lockin Apple has is the OS running only on Apple hardware. Seeing as how Apple is a system's integrator and makes the hardware as well as software, I'm not surprised. That's why and how Apple is able to make sure things "just work". However Apple did at one tyme license the Mac OS to third party OEMs. This was while Steve Jobs was gone. When he was brought back he looked at the numbers and saw that by licensing the OS Apple was losing more in lost hardware sales than they made in licenses, so he ended it.
Maybe because their stuff works?
Yeap! My first computer was a used Mac SE30 I bought in 1992. Up until it died in 2000, 8 year later, the only problem I had with it was that it wasn't expandable. My first new computer was a Windows PC from Gateway I bought in 1997 and it ran Win95. A few months after I got it the harddisk died. One week shy of having it a year the motherboard died. I used it 2 years and in that tyme I called tech support and after going through diagnostics they had me reinstall Windows a half dozen tymes. In 2000 I bought a new HP PC Pavilion running WinME. Again within a year the hdd and mb had to be replaced. Also in 2000 I bought another used Mac, PowerMac 7300/200. It worked until 2006 when it refused to bootup. It lasted me 6 years, and it was a few years old, well maybe 3, when I got it.
But it does raise the question -- why not Linux? It'd be much cheaper.
I bet the single biggest reason why more people don't use Linux is because there aren't many PCs that come with Linux preinstalled. And most people don't install an OS, they just buy a computer from the store, plug everything in and power up. They want it working right out of the box.
FalconI don't want vista either, I'd rather stick with XP, but I'll be buying it next year, several copies in fact. So will almost everyone on slashdot, unless they're really linux only bods.
I won't touch Vista with a ten foot pole unless I absolutely have to. And I'm not a Linux only person. Actually, while I do have two PCs running Linux one dualbooting Linux and NT 4.0, I'm typing this on a Macbook Pro. If Microsoft hadn't decided to treat me like a criminal, which is what Activation, WGA/WPA, and all the spyware is there for, I might of stayed with Windows.
Falconshould be:
Vista: It's New. . .er! Now with even more of the same but in Mac style!
I don't think that would be a wise move. I can see what Apple's response would be, "Why get an imitation when you can have the real thing?"
FalconYes, read his blog. He states that he's done this several times before, and he knew what they were going to do. I'd have a completely different attitude if this guy innocently ran into the situation, but he did not.
Ok, sorry about my attitude then.
I wonder why he started it. People don't typically just start something like this on a whim.
FalconWindows 7 will be the product that decides the future of Microsoft. They simply can't afford two crappy releases in a row.
It's too late for that, MS already has a string of bad releases. The only MS Windows version I have not had trouble with was NT 4.0. While I haven't, and refuse to, use Vista the very first tyme I used XP it was on a brand new Dell. I pushed the power button and waited, and waited, and waited. Five minutes later I gave it the three finger salute, once, twice, then a third tyme before I held in the power button. Once, and the first tyme at that, was enough for me.
FalconIt has been 3 years since WinXP Service Pack 2 was released, even though updating Windows XP from an SP2 CD requires downloading more than 170 Megabytes of files, a difficult problem when there is no internet connection or only a dial-up connection. The Windows XP updates of just August's Patch Tuesday were more than 20 Megabytes. Microsoft seems to have delayed releasing an SP3 for Windows XP to try to discourage people from using Windows XP.
I don't mean to defend Microsoft, afterall their actions that treat me like a criminal have caused me to migrate to Linux and OS X, but doesn't MS offer upgrade disks now? I ordered one online several years ago and paid $20 for it. I got it in the mail within a few days.
FalconACLU Bustcard
There's one like it for photographers, The Photographer's Right. It's based on the Bust Card. It's recommended they carry it with them because a lot of photographers have been stopped and questioned if not have had their cameras taken while out shooting since 911. One student photographer at the college I was attend then was questioned while working on an assignment for a class. So naturally this became a big topic in the photo classes. Some made commends they didn't want to go out in public to shoot.
FalconHe wasn't standing up for his rights - he was being an asshole that started the whole thing on purpose. He was not an innocent bystander that had his rights violated, he purposely picked a fight because he KNEW what was going to happen.
Can you proof this or did you just make it up?
FalconDid you really just equate "showing your receipt upon leaving a retail store" with death?
For ease, yes. I don't know about you but to me it'd be easier to die than to live as a child that needs to have the government control me. I know it's not the state that is saying they want to see the receipt, in this case it was a store employee. However I find it easier to not shop at the store, than to put up with this.
FalconDon't forget - from a legal perspective, once you've served your sentence, you've paid your debt to society. You have the same rights and privileges as anyone else.
Actually this isn't true, at least for felony convictions. Felony ex-cons loose their right to vote. They can petition the state's governor to reinstate the right to vote but the governor doesn't have to do so.
Finally, shouldn't the circumstances of the crime dictate the charges? I.e., charge someone with attempted murder if they actually tried to kill someone? And charge them with battery if it was a simple beating they administered?
That's how it should be however prosecutors will sometimes reduce a charge because they know there's a chance they will lose if it goes to trial, which looks bad on a prosecutor's record. And sometimes a defendant will plead guilty to a reduced charge because they feel they will loose if it goes to trial as well.
A 'poor kid' would have never had the time/resources to fight this, he would have forked over his ID, and took it because he had to.
BS! By no means am I rich; I was born low income, didn't marry rich, heck I don't even have a high paying job. What I am is disabled, however I would do the same thing, stand up for my rights. As Patrick Henry said, "Give me liberty or give me death."
FalconAll this means is that he could have avoided a lot of mess for a lot of people by just doing this annoying thing. It isn't very hard. It isn't eroding our rights.
BS! By standing up for his rights, he's standing up for everyone's rights.
Falcon'your sort'? Aren't you making a lot of assumptions about him based on a post that made no mention of his political views?
It' wasn't just the one post he read, he wrote "Looking through your other posts, you're obviously no friend of civil liberties. A cursory glance shows you arguing in favor trial-free detention of non-Americans. Why your thinly veiled propaganda gets modded up is a mystery to me."
FalconYea, what's really cheap is to roll over and die.
FalconThey are there to enforce, to the best of their knowledge, the law.
No, police are there to investigate crimes. And they aren't there to enforce a law they pulled out of their ass.
FalconYes, with anarchy, ie without a ruler or rulers. Instead each person is sovereign.
FalconIt's completely another to be an arrogant prick, forcing your will onto others for no good reason, other than he's a complete stubborn moron.
Yeap, that door checker certainly was a stubborn moron.
There's a time and place to pick fights and this example is certainly not one of them. Some people talk about banning Circuit City. If I were running Circuit City, I would ban this asshole from ever being allowed back into the store.
Oh, I see you meant someone who stands up for his rights was the stubborn moron. If you really think that then I think you're the one it should be applied to. If people don't stand up for their rights they soon find they don't have any rights.
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.
When they came for me,
Falconthere was no one left to speak out.
If it's a hard and thankless job and it doesn't pay well,
By all means, pay them more. BUT then hold them to a Code of Conduct. Actually I bet if you got rid of all of the victimless crimes on the books such as drug possession and prostitution so that law enforcement can concentrate on violent criminals and the theft and robbery of property the number of officers can be reduced while also making it safer.
Why don't you just admit that you don't like and don't want cops
Wrong. We just don't need as many as we have. On a per capita basis the US has the highest per capita prison population in the world. And a good chunk of the prison population is there for victimless crimes such as drug possession. While mandatory sentencing guidelines can put a person convicted of drug possession in prison for life, robbers, murderers, and rapists can get out after serving several years. Strike all victimless crimes from law books then less prisons will be needed to lockup dangerous criminals.
you just better be ready for a society without police officers (make sure you buy a nice gun, and know how to use it).
Most people should be able to protect themselves anyway. But where needed others can help. Instead of passersby passing by they can help a crime victim. "I don't want to get involved" is BS.
Do I have to remind people we are talking about a guy who refused to show his receipt and identification?
Which he was not required to provide. Would you like it if you were required to wear a Star of David on your sleeve? If not why not?
This isn't the American Revolutionary War. Nor is this part of some civil right movement. Give me a fucking break.
Give me a break from tyranny!!!
FalconMy question, to the Slashdotters of the US, when does it "become necessary"??? THAT is the real question.
It only becomes necessary to overthrow the government after using the first 3 boxes fail; the soapbox, ballot box, and the jury box. Once those have failed then the ammo box can be used.
FalconI thought Laura Bush was a teacher... Ah, she was both. After getting her BS in Education she taught, but then went back to college and got her MS in Library Science. Thanks, I didn't know that.
FalconNah, neither of these titles would faze this admin, they don't know what either one is.
FalconYeah, right, 3000 innocent people get killed and everybody overreacts!
And when thousands of innocents die weekly nobody bats an eye. How about when a regime supported by the US massacres 200,000? They don't mean anything either.
FalconHomicide rates: per 100,000 pop. (Wikipedia)
Florida (concealed carry): 13.9
Hong Kong (strict gun control): 0.63
I noticed you didn't include a link, so are those homicide rates for all homicides or just those where a firearm was used? I'd like to see a breakdown in the number of homicides were committed by what types of weapons. For instance, I don't know if it's still true, but at one tyme more Japanese a country also with strong gun control laws had a high rate of homicide with swords and other bladed weapons. But even if a population is disarmed it doesn't mean there's less crime or homicides:
Dave Kopel, Dr. Paul Gallant and Dr. Joanne Eisen
Thursday, March 22, 2001
During the 19th century, and most of the 20th, Britain enjoyed a well-deserved reputation as an unusually safe and crime-free nation, compared to the United States or continental Europe. No longer.
To the great consternation of British authorities concerned about tourism revenue, a June CBS News report proclaimed Great Britain "one of the most violent urban societies in the Western world." Declared Dan Rather: "This summer, thousands of Americans will travel to Britain expecting a civilized island free from crime and ugliness ... [but now] the U.K. has a crime problem ... worse than ours."
Not surprisingly to many observers, the violent crime rate has risen dramatically and steadily since gun bans have been instituted. That's a trend seen wherever strict gun control laws have been implemented. And that's the part of the story British officials have tried to keep under wraps.
FalconBut the one thing I have learned is that any book that is even remotely controversial to the right-wings in this country is best read with a fake book sleeve covering it. Otherwise you will suffer an endless barrage of ignorance, prejudice and hate.
The same thing's true from the left-wingers.
FalconI bought this 2600 in the news stand at the airport HONEST!!
And what about that "Blacklisted 411!?
Falcon