IPCONFIG/RENEW only renews between the computer and the DHCP-Server enabled router. This part of my network is rock-solid. It's the DHCP for the ISP that gets renewed between the Cable Modem and the ISP's DHCP that needs renewing. A long time ago, I knew how to hack into my cable modem, but to be honest, I've forgotten how and the 2 or 3 hours I've spend trying to "re-find" the information has been fruitless.
This $hit pisses me off. I went YEARS with no break in services (ok, except during very heavy rains when ALL of cable went out). So one day I decide to try out Limewire. Things are good for a few months. THEN! I start dropping connection all the time. I call their tech support and they SWEAR they don't traffic shape. "Your cable modem is 5 years old, it's time to buy another one", is what I'm told. Bull$hit. I couldn't go 2 DAYS without a dropout when I had Limewire and/or XBOX360 (playing on-line).
I have since moved my gear and computer, and now, 3 months later, I am back to before where it never drops. The difference? No P2P. There's simply no other way to explain it.
The only way I think I could prove it is if I could packet sniff on the outbound side of the cable modem. The activity light never stops, but I lose connection. Rebooting instantly gets connectivity back to the defauly gateway...the only educated guess I can provide is that they drop your IP off the leased list, and reconnecting renews your IP.
I was in a little too much of a hurry...I was leaving work and was trying to get out the door. I was referring to the Elite model and didn't type in that one important word. I've had several references to $10 HDMI...and I'll reply like I did to them...provide a name of store, and/or link. I've supplied two (Best Buy and Circuit City) which are 80-120. I've also seen them at distributors for over $30 (distributors are usually 50% of a dealers price).
You're making the assumption digital is somehow better. In data communications and certain types of telephony, you'd be right. However, there is no signaling between the TV and DVD player. So what are you left with? Just a means of transmitting Green Red and Blue information between two devices. If anything, you're now at the mercy of your HDTV's digital to digital conversion.
Don't believe the hype. My HD DVD with quality component cables at 1080p will look identical on my 46" LCD as the HDMI cable. The only people who will tell you there is a definate difference are the people trying to sell you HDMI.
DVI vs. HDMI vs. Component Video -- Which is Better
Also, you have to deal with multiple and changing HDMI formats. I've read countless industry articles on the debate of HDMI Vs Component, and there's never a clear winner. So, if I have to spend $30 or $90....I'm going $30. Now others have posted they can get HDMI for $10....I haven't seen them with my eyes, however, again, I'm not going to lock myself into a proprietary cable. If component can transfer the full image of 1080p, then that's fine with me. Hell, I can't tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p. Most of the content out there is still below 720 anyway.
Can you provide names or reference links? That's about 6X lower than wholesale pricing I've seen for HDMI interconnect cables. I was at a wholesale distributor and their HDMI cables were $30 each for 3 foot...6 foot was about the same.
Yes, that's a given that component is video. So I spend $30 on the component, and then about 5-15$ for analog audio or digital audio cable. I'm still way ahead. Yes, you can get a XBOX360 cable for close to that, but it's only for your XBOX360. You can't use it for your DVD player, TIVO, or anything else. If I could have used it to connect my DVD to my HDTV I would have gotten it. However, why would I? Almost everything I own has a component in or out...nothing but the HDTV has HDMI. My 3 year old high-end A/V switching receiver, which will switch up to 1080p and upscale, only has component. Yes the new version has HDMI....but again, why would I limit myself and use something with interconnect cables over 3X more expensive?
Yep, you hit the nail straight on the head. I laugh at the amount of money wasted, but it's all marketing. The best example my marketing professor gave me was toothpaste. Go look at a supermarket aisle for toothpaste. You've got about 3 or 4 DOZEN brands of the same stuff....some has crystals, other baking soda, but it's all just paste.
At home depot there's simple example of what you describe. Look at the 2 conductor, 16 or 18 gauge lamp cord. Now look at the 2 conductor, 16 or 18 speaker wire. Huge difference in price. It's still copper stranded wire of the same quality and I'd almost argue the insulation is BETTER for the cheaper lamp cord.
I have always known it, but I had the advantage of growing up with an avionics mechanic. My dad wired planes for AA for over 37 years before retiring. He told me how small a gauge it took to reliable send signals all over a huge aircraft and meet strict FAA specs...so I quickly figured out (plus he'd laugh at the money I wasted as a teenager in the car audio scene) it was overkill. If you can ARC weld with 0 gauge, you really don't need it for your 500 watt stereo amp.
We commonly get asked, "Whats the difference between HDMI and Component?". Our answer (tongue in cheek) is, "About $20 a foot". I bought a 1080i LCD Sony Bravia HDTV and I got a DVD at the same level. When I got to interconnect cables, I saw $30 for a reasonable set of Monster component cables. The no-brand HDMI 3 foot cable was $90. It's silly if you think about it. OK, supposedly there's a sync difference and the "transmission is faster" for HDMI, but last I checked, component video hasn't had a lag problem in anyone's home theater I've seen. You can send 1080p just fine over component, and not be worried about anything holding your performance back. This is why I laughed at the XBOX360 HDMI only output....please...when will manufacturers figure out that when you limit choices it just pisses people off?
I googled it too. Did you ever find the "Air Force" removal from civil service? I couldn't find it after, like you, I saw how much "chaff" came up with it. I just thought it was odd that you could find someone's federal service removal online.
OK, to counter the counter point... The last couple paragraphs just re-state what I've summed up, which was, they are not mutually inclusive. You can have each by themselves and each independantly (privacy and security).
I would submit that the RIAA is finding it's NOT that simple as to assume the public IP address is there for all to see and easily identifiable. Otherwise, they'd never be wrong. I'm willing to concede that I wasn't using the legal definition of privacy, but the practical. However, I could argue you've made the same leap with the 2nd paragraph by stating,
no reasonable expectation of privacy not because it's traffic is unsecured between endpoints but because it takes no steps to obfuscate the end user
which implies that I WOULD expect privacy if it's obfustcated, which back to what I think is your most valid point, would STILL not give a reasonable expectation of privacy.
It's all great fodder for debate. I could argue this point either way (file sharing by its very nature removes reasonable expectation of privacy VS secure, NAT'd and shared networks imply anonominity, and hence, privacy).
Then that would mean the original statement has no point, since I'm responding to the claim that a open security model implies no privacy. I would never say they're mutually inclusive, but the author's statement seems to directly correlate the two. If you go into the bathroom and leave the door unlocked, you're entitled to expecting privacy. The author implies that because I went into a room (not bathroom) with the door unlocked, I expect no privacy because the door isn't locked. I was merely stating the door is indeed secure because of the Rottweiler he parked right in front of it with the command, "Sick Balls". 8-D
That's going to be a difficult argument to make, given that Kazaa's default settings give users no reasonable expectation of privacy
I was say it's a great deal easier if you widen your scope to include hardware. Thousands, if not millions, of PC users use Residential Gateways, which specifically state "increased security, yada yada yada" on the box. So although the SOFTWARE may be configured to be open (such as LimeWire), the user could easily argue that the HARDWARE provided the expectation. With NAT and obfuscated IP addresses it's a technicially sufficient explanation.
What about just linking to a place where the key is posted? The courts in the DeCSS case wrestled with the proper test to apply when someone links to a location where a circumvention tool can be found. Ultimately, the district court held that an injunction against linking could be issued after a final judgment if a the plaintiff could show, by clear and convincing evidence,
"that those responsible for the link (a) know at the relevant time that the offending material is on the linked-to site, (b) know that it is circumvention technology that may not lawfully be offered, and (c) create or maintain the link for the purpose of disseminating that technology."
and then earlier in the article, which has a link to Google, they state,
the futile mission of trying to get every instance of at least one key (hint: it begins with 09 f9) removed from the Internet
They just created a link to a site that provide the means, and knew the link would have the information to crack, and they know it's illegal to crack...so all 3 criteria set are met for infringement under DMCA.
I really hate this DMCA. I think it's the stupidest law since prohibition.
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Las Vegas agents storm the rooms of every single Rainbow6: Las Vegas game owner.
Police spokesperson Lt. Sehkrew Emhard stated, "We were alarmed that it had very realistic scenes of Fremont Street. I mean, it had the street, the casinos and even burning cars. We have confiscated every object with a pointy end and any books they may have possessed. Troublemakers are known to often read before murdering." Parents were aghast when they learned their teens had purchased a game marked M for Mature. One mother was overheard saying, "I just can't believe my little Johnny. He was always so nice and quiet, yet for months he virtually ran through halls shooting people with a Desert Eagle and sent two co-horts to do much of his dirty work for him. I was physically ill!"
Police state they will be shackled and shipped off to an unnamed island for long-term observation. UbiSoft was unavailable for comment. An employee, who refused to be identified because he is not authorized to speak about these types of events, is quoted as saying, "but it's still a really cool game. We just released 4 new levels for multiplayer and new types of combat, one of which is called Assassin....errr...wait....nevermind."
When I worked at Nextel, the "Guys in Suits" had a server set up in our transport room (where the OC-92 and other fiber came in to the demarc). We had no real input, but one person (not me) was responsible for admin of it (in case it needed reboot, etc). It's now able to be public, but we had to keep it hush-hush that there was no way to tap Direct Connect for quite some time. It's able now, but it was more difficult with Direct Application Processors (DAP - used to process Direct connect traffic). Nextel is/was TDMA.
Sprint had it, but visibility was 0 even at the 2nd tier technical support level. Sprint uses CDMA.
In both cases, it's fairly straightforward to tap a normal cell phone call. Any switch that processes your call sees the flag and adds the additional phone tap and then sends the data to a predetermined trunk leading to the CALEA servers. Only trusted and specifically trained people are allowed to touch the servers, and calls from law enforcement are directed to a group which knows how to process and execute legal wire tap requests.
That's not right: people (even smart ones) make mistakes. Lives can be ruined when an errant legal system driven by irrational fears and political posturing goes overboard and crushes a young person like a bug.
Which was the point I originally brought up and agreed with the post I originally replied. I was trying to be brief, but this was part of the reason I brought up the elevator. You probably do more real damage sticking a penny in an elevator (not sure this still works, but in 1988 it did at the Kerr Dorms at Oklahoma State University). Productivity was affected (people were late), resources wasted (staff getting calls "elevator is stuck again), and other affects I probably never could guess, however, it's not worth a feloney. However, with computers it goes to an automatic knee jerk reaction to the "worst case scenario" and you've got your first strike (3 in Cali and you're in prison for life...the next one could be something as little as walking out of a store and forgetting to pay for a slice of pizza).
It's easy for the under-achievers and people without imagination to sit back and say, "it serves you right," because they'll never strike out in a new direction. I would point out the reference awhile back to an experiment where three monkeys were put in a room with a ladder and a cluster of bannanas hanging in the middle of the room. Everytime one monkey would reach for a bannana the other two would get a shock. I won't go through the whole thing, but through socialization and replacement, it got to the point where monkeys who never got shocked would still beat the hell out of any monkey who even reached for the ladder (for fear of the shock...which they themselves never got). I'd even say you could extend it to the event that founded our country (at least in folklore)....throwing away a major, exportable resource...or tea in Boston.
They'd be felons using this same logic. Innocent actions often have unintended consequences. I'm sure when they threw the tea, they were more pissed than intending to spark a revolutionary new country. And from Britains perspective, I'm sure they were a nuisance that deserved a long spell in the slammer. I'm sure it, "would have served them right," from many Britains' perspective.
Your reply hits many points, dead on (pardon the pun when combined with the guns reference). Technically, I "broke" Sprint PCS security policy by showing them a hole in 3G data services (around 98/99). The security guys were certain they were applying the layers of security but forgot about a fundamental shift in types of traffic (tunneling within a tunnel) used in 3G. I said, "OK, if it's secure, how is it I can ping the billing server from my "public" computer".....I could technically have been in the same boat as some others (not this kid...he was clever).
Which brings up your main, and correct, point. It's sad when we penalize so harshly for students just being clever. Would they have suspended him for a year for putting a penny in the dorm elevator (in effect locking it on a single floor during early morning rush time)??? I often joke, and I'm sadly accurate: If I did half of what I did 20 years ago in highschool and later college....today...I'd be a multiple strike felon...and yet no one or any property was really ever hurt
The first article didn't really clarify and actually confused the issue(s). They did indeed do more than just set him back a year. If he's on a full ROTC scholarship, they likely just yanked his funding by suspending him.
If you look at it out of context, their decision makes some sense, however, as soon as you apply ANY logic to it, their reaction is way too far. What is the result? I would never do research there or even TOUCH anything security related. Imagine if you got suspended because you left your lab's back door open, while there was still a guard on duty. Someone COULD break in, but there's a guard. This is similar to what he did...the security was never compromised, it may not have been the MAX (which is also a farce, because the university itself wasn't up to the most current version). Using their own logic, they should suspend their director of IT for one year for knowingly having a system not most up to date (which is what the kid did).
I have 3 product trainers who go to Electronic Home and other home/security type expos, and we're in decline too. We dropped CES this year, and we'll likely drop a few more smaller ones in the near future. I'm new to trade shows, so I don't have 10-20 year history to look at and compare to the normal cycle. With housing starts down and consumer confidence taking hits from $3+/gal gas, it doesn't surprise me that MOST industries are hit to some degree. I think the "bounce" will depend upon how removed you are from the uncertainty (real estate, consumer prices, etc). The farther you are, the quicker you will bounce back. I would think the entertainment industry is one of the more resilient and should bounce back. Will it be with renewed trade show presence? I think so. You may not be back to 100% of the glory days, but you'll go back to the ones that gave you the right visibility.
Sure the internet will allow the people with the decision making authority to chop their choices down, but nothing beats laying your hands on the product and shaking hands with the VP of Sales or Marketing. I think trade shows will be smaller, but more important. VPs will have less time, and be busier back in the office. Get to the show, get to business quickly, and then tend to the details later. This is my observation as a direct report to the VP of marketing.
crap the one time I dont "preview".... I guess it choked on the "left with less than 1% accuracy about any US Military operation" which used the "less than symbol". I also mentioned how the press in the 90's would often say, "GPS Satellites track you", which was humorous as a GPS satellite operator.
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IPCONFIG /RENEW only renews between the computer and the DHCP-Server enabled router. This part of my network is rock-solid. It's the DHCP for the ISP that gets renewed between the Cable Modem and the ISP's DHCP that needs renewing. A long time ago, I knew how to hack into my cable modem, but to be honest, I've forgotten how and the 2 or 3 hours I've spend trying to "re-find" the information has been fruitless.
This $hit pisses me off. I went YEARS with no break in services (ok, except during very heavy rains when ALL of cable went out). So one day I decide to try out Limewire. Things are good for a few months. THEN! I start dropping connection all the time. I call their tech support and they SWEAR they don't traffic shape. "Your cable modem is 5 years old, it's time to buy another one", is what I'm told. Bull$hit. I couldn't go 2 DAYS without a dropout when I had Limewire and/or XBOX360 (playing on-line).
I have since moved my gear and computer, and now, 3 months later, I am back to before where it never drops. The difference? No P2P. There's simply no other way to explain it.
The only way I think I could prove it is if I could packet sniff on the outbound side of the cable modem. The activity light never stops, but I lose connection. Rebooting instantly gets connectivity back to the defauly gateway...the only educated guess I can provide is that they drop your IP off the leased list, and reconnecting renews your IP.
Thanks!! I'll show it to my guys and we'll mention it to people who call into us. For that cheap, I'm tempted to switch....
I was in a little too much of a hurry...I was leaving work and was trying to get out the door. I was referring to the Elite model and didn't type in that one important word. I've had several references to $10 HDMI...and I'll reply like I did to them...provide a name of store, and/or link. I've supplied two (Best Buy and Circuit City) which are 80-120. I've also seen them at distributors for over $30 (distributors are usually 50% of a dealers price).
You're making the assumption digital is somehow better. In data communications and certain types of telephony, you'd be right. However, there is no signaling between the TV and DVD player. So what are you left with? Just a means of transmitting Green Red and Blue information between two devices. If anything, you're now at the mercy of your HDTV's digital to digital conversion.
Don't believe the hype. My HD DVD with quality component cables at 1080p will look identical on my 46" LCD as the HDMI cable. The only people who will tell you there is a definate difference are the people trying to sell you HDMI.
DVI vs. HDMI vs. Component Video -- Which is BetterAlso, you have to deal with multiple and changing HDMI formats. I've read countless industry articles on the debate of HDMI Vs Component, and there's never a clear winner. So, if I have to spend $30 or $90....I'm going $30. Now others have posted they can get HDMI for $10....I haven't seen them with my eyes, however, again, I'm not going to lock myself into a proprietary cable. If component can transfer the full image of 1080p, then that's fine with me. Hell, I can't tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p. Most of the content out there is still below 720 anyway.
Can you provide names or reference links? That's about 6X lower than wholesale pricing I've seen for HDMI interconnect cables. I was at a wholesale distributor and their HDMI cables were $30 each for 3 foot...6 foot was about the same.
Yes, that's a given that component is video. So I spend $30 on the component, and then about 5-15$ for analog audio or digital audio cable. I'm still way ahead. Yes, you can get a XBOX360 cable for close to that, but it's only for your XBOX360. You can't use it for your DVD player, TIVO, or anything else. If I could have used it to connect my DVD to my HDTV I would have gotten it. However, why would I? Almost everything I own has a component in or out...nothing but the HDTV has HDMI. My 3 year old high-end A/V switching receiver, which will switch up to 1080p and upscale, only has component. Yes the new version has HDMI....but again, why would I limit myself and use something with interconnect cables over 3X more expensive?
Yep, you hit the nail straight on the head. I laugh at the amount of money wasted, but it's all marketing. The best example my marketing professor gave me was toothpaste. Go look at a supermarket aisle for toothpaste. You've got about 3 or 4 DOZEN brands of the same stuff....some has crystals, other baking soda, but it's all just paste.
At home depot there's simple example of what you describe. Look at the 2 conductor, 16 or 18 gauge lamp cord. Now look at the 2 conductor, 16 or 18 speaker wire. Huge difference in price. It's still copper stranded wire of the same quality and I'd almost argue the insulation is BETTER for the cheaper lamp cord.
I have always known it, but I had the advantage of growing up with an avionics mechanic. My dad wired planes for AA for over 37 years before retiring. He told me how small a gauge it took to reliable send signals all over a huge aircraft and meet strict FAA specs...so I quickly figured out (plus he'd laugh at the money I wasted as a teenager in the car audio scene) it was overkill. If you can ARC weld with 0 gauge, you really don't need it for your 500 watt stereo amp.I cant even get it from a DISTRIBUTOR for that cheap. Distributor pricing is still in the 30s-40s for a no-name.
Here are some references to back up the range I'm describing:
$80 for 6foot BestBuy
$125 for 6foor CircuitCity
If you can get one for under $10 (3 or 6 foot)...but them!!
We commonly get asked, "Whats the difference between HDMI and Component?". Our answer (tongue in cheek) is, "About $20 a foot". I bought a 1080i LCD Sony Bravia HDTV and I got a DVD at the same level. When I got to interconnect cables, I saw $30 for a reasonable set of Monster component cables. The no-brand HDMI 3 foot cable was $90. It's silly if you think about it. OK, supposedly there's a sync difference and the "transmission is faster" for HDMI, but last I checked, component video hasn't had a lag problem in anyone's home theater I've seen. You can send 1080p just fine over component, and not be worried about anything holding your performance back. This is why I laughed at the XBOX360 HDMI only output....please...when will manufacturers figure out that when you limit choices it just pisses people off?
I googled it too. Did you ever find the "Air Force" removal from civil service? I couldn't find it after, like you, I saw how much "chaff" came up with it. I just thought it was odd that you could find someone's federal service removal online.
OK, to counter the counter point... The last couple paragraphs just re-state what I've summed up, which was, they are not mutually inclusive. You can have each by themselves and each independantly (privacy and security).
I would submit that the RIAA is finding it's NOT that simple as to assume the public IP address is there for all to see and easily identifiable. Otherwise, they'd never be wrong. I'm willing to concede that I wasn't using the legal definition of privacy, but the practical. However, I could argue you've made the same leap with the 2nd paragraph by stating,
no reasonable expectation of privacy not because it's traffic is unsecured between endpoints but because it takes no steps to obfuscate the end userwhich implies that I WOULD expect privacy if it's obfustcated, which back to what I think is your most valid point, would STILL not give a reasonable expectation of privacy.
It's all great fodder for debate. I could argue this point either way (file sharing by its very nature removes reasonable expectation of privacy VS secure, NAT'd and shared networks imply anonominity, and hence, privacy).
Then that would mean the original statement has no point, since I'm responding to the claim that a open security model implies no privacy. I would never say they're mutually inclusive, but the author's statement seems to directly correlate the two. If you go into the bathroom and leave the door unlocked, you're entitled to expecting privacy. The author implies that because I went into a room (not bathroom) with the door unlocked, I expect no privacy because the door isn't locked. I was merely stating the door is indeed secure because of the Rottweiler he parked right in front of it with the command, "Sick Balls". 8-D
That's going to be a difficult argument to make, given that Kazaa's default settings give users no reasonable expectation of privacy I was say it's a great deal easier if you widen your scope to include hardware. Thousands, if not millions, of PC users use Residential Gateways, which specifically state "increased security, yada yada yada" on the box. So although the SOFTWARE may be configured to be open (such as LimeWire), the user could easily argue that the HARDWARE provided the expectation. With NAT and obfuscated IP addresses it's a technicially sufficient explanation.
What about just linking to a place where the key is posted? The courts in the DeCSS case wrestled with the proper test to apply when someone links to a location where a circumvention tool can be found. Ultimately, the district court held that an injunction against linking could be issued after a final judgment if a the plaintiff could show, by clear and convincing evidence,
"that those responsible for the link (a) know at the relevant time that the offending material is on the linked-to site, (b) know that it is circumvention technology that may not lawfully be offered, and (c) create or maintain the link for the purpose of disseminating that technology."
and then earlier in the article, which has a link to Google, they state,
the futile mission of trying to get every instance of at least one key (hint: it begins with 09 f9) removed from the Internet
They just created a link to a site that provide the means, and knew the link would have the information to crack, and they know it's illegal to crack...so all 3 criteria set are met for infringement under DMCA.
I really hate this DMCA. I think it's the stupidest law since prohibition.
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Results 1 - 10 of about 1,020,000 for 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0. (0.17 seconds)
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ahahaha...I got it right away...I guess you have to follow it up with "I seeeeee NUTTTINNNNGGGG!!!" and "Ohhhh, Hogan!"
Las Vegas agents storm the rooms of every single Rainbow6: Las Vegas game owner.
Police spokesperson Lt. Sehkrew Emhard stated, "We were alarmed that it had very realistic scenes of Fremont Street. I mean, it had the street, the casinos and even burning cars. We have confiscated every object with a pointy end and any books they may have possessed. Troublemakers are known to often read before murdering." Parents were aghast when they learned their teens had purchased a game marked M for Mature. One mother was overheard saying, "I just can't believe my little Johnny. He was always so nice and quiet, yet for months he virtually ran through halls shooting people with a Desert Eagle and sent two co-horts to do much of his dirty work for him. I was physically ill!"
Police state they will be shackled and shipped off to an unnamed island for long-term observation. UbiSoft was unavailable for comment. An employee, who refused to be identified because he is not authorized to speak about these types of events, is quoted as saying, "but it's still a really cool game. We just released 4 new levels for multiplayer and new types of combat, one of which is called Assassin....errr...wait....nevermind."
When I worked at Nextel, the "Guys in Suits" had a server set up in our transport room (where the OC-92 and other fiber came in to the demarc). We had no real input, but one person (not me) was responsible for admin of it (in case it needed reboot, etc). It's now able to be public, but we had to keep it hush-hush that there was no way to tap Direct Connect for quite some time. It's able now, but it was more difficult with Direct Application Processors (DAP - used to process Direct connect traffic). Nextel is/was TDMA.
Sprint had it, but visibility was 0 even at the 2nd tier technical support level. Sprint uses CDMA.
In both cases, it's fairly straightforward to tap a normal cell phone call. Any switch that processes your call sees the flag and adds the additional phone tap and then sends the data to a predetermined trunk leading to the CALEA servers. Only trusted and specifically trained people are allowed to touch the servers, and calls from law enforcement are directed to a group which knows how to process and execute legal wire tap requests.
Which was the point I originally brought up and agreed with the post I originally replied. I was trying to be brief, but this was part of the reason I brought up the elevator. You probably do more real damage sticking a penny in an elevator (not sure this still works, but in 1988 it did at the Kerr Dorms at Oklahoma State University). Productivity was affected (people were late), resources wasted (staff getting calls "elevator is stuck again), and other affects I probably never could guess, however, it's not worth a feloney. However, with computers it goes to an automatic knee jerk reaction to the "worst case scenario" and you've got your first strike (3 in Cali and you're in prison for life...the next one could be something as little as walking out of a store and forgetting to pay for a slice of pizza).
It's easy for the under-achievers and people without imagination to sit back and say, "it serves you right," because they'll never strike out in a new direction. I would point out the reference awhile back to an experiment where three monkeys were put in a room with a ladder and a cluster of bannanas hanging in the middle of the room. Everytime one monkey would reach for a bannana the other two would get a shock. I won't go through the whole thing, but through socialization and replacement, it got to the point where monkeys who never got shocked would still beat the hell out of any monkey who even reached for the ladder (for fear of the shock...which they themselves never got). I'd even say you could extend it to the event that founded our country (at least in folklore)....throwing away a major, exportable resource...or tea in Boston.
They'd be felons using this same logic. Innocent actions often have unintended consequences. I'm sure when they threw the tea, they were more pissed than intending to spark a revolutionary new country. And from Britains perspective, I'm sure they were a nuisance that deserved a long spell in the slammer. I'm sure it, "would have served them right," from many Britains' perspective.
Which brings up your main, and correct, point. It's sad when we penalize so harshly for students just being clever. Would they have suspended him for a year for putting a penny in the dorm elevator (in effect locking it on a single floor during early morning rush time)??? I often joke, and I'm sadly accurate: If I did half of what I did 20 years ago in highschool and later college....today...I'd be a multiple strike felon...and yet no one or any property was really ever hurt
If you look at it out of context, their decision makes some sense, however, as soon as you apply ANY logic to it, their reaction is way too far. What is the result? I would never do research there or even TOUCH anything security related. Imagine if you got suspended because you left your lab's back door open, while there was still a guard on duty. Someone COULD break in, but there's a guard. This is similar to what he did...the security was never compromised, it may not have been the MAX (which is also a farce, because the university itself wasn't up to the most current version). Using their own logic, they should suspend their director of IT for one year for knowingly having a system not most up to date (which is what the kid did).
Sure the internet will allow the people with the decision making authority to chop their choices down, but nothing beats laying your hands on the product and shaking hands with the VP of Sales or Marketing. I think trade shows will be smaller, but more important. VPs will have less time, and be busier back in the office. Get to the show, get to business quickly, and then tend to the details later. This is my observation as a direct report to the VP of marketing.
crap the one time I dont "preview".... I guess it choked on the "left with less than 1% accuracy about any US Military operation" which used the "less than symbol". I also mentioned how the press in the 90's would often say, "GPS Satellites track you", which was humorous as a GPS satellite operator.