No, I'm referring to the annoying period when people had those, I forget the name now. They were like bots that would reply to every news post someone would make, informing everyone that they were a troll etc. It was so stupid and only lead trolls to becoming smarter and becoming harder to detect. The tool it self quickly was abused to give non-problematic people a bad reputation who couldn't hide as easily (it also made people on Fidonet really angry having to download all those extra messages from the Usenet bridge). It quickly went away as people felt it was more of a witch hunting tool.
Semantics wouldn't save me or my family if these people got into power and rounded us up because we're Jewish
I would do my best to save you and your family, if the world really turned to hell; I wouldn't be one of the regular population who just sat there hiding and complying.
It wouldn't be any comfort to me to say "Sure these people stand for everything the Nazis stood for but since they haven't joined any 'National Socialist German Workers' Party' they aren't technically Nazis." These groups worship Nazis and want to pick up where Hitler left off. I've met one in person and he told me, to my face knowing that I was Jewish, that the only thing Hitler did wrong was not finishing the Jewish people off. These people are Nazis.
And it shouldn't, however my view is very different.
I believe in accurately identifying who and what your enemy and problems are. If you aren't able to accurately identify what it is, you'll solve the wrong problem. This is why trolling on Twitter is becoming more creative and used against certain groups intended to protect others. When you can get the New York Times account suspended for reporting the news because all these new controls are addressing the wrong issues because they have the wrong idea of what the problem is, you're only going to give people who didn't have a weapon, a weapon now and they may not be the people who are on your side.
We have disgusting political groups that are misrepresenting the enemy of the public being particular archetypes (in recent years it's been gamers, disenfranchised youth), marking them as the enemy of issues that they many have no involvement with. People believe these groups and then call-out-culture, brings their followers to call-out these people where-ever they see it, the issue is that when you call-out someone over something that isn't quite true, you can't defend it. In turn, people the people calling out and then getting smashed in an argument, this leads people down to forming their own groups against this harassment, the political groups however will distort the purpose and meaning of these groups to be... What they were originally talking about to begin with, only reigniting the debate even further. In the meantime, this starts bringing more objectionable concepts to becoming normalized and... Well, you see what's going on.
The media on the other hand are happy as anything, normalizing all these hate messages and I made a pathetic attempt to stop it here in the comments on Slashdot through nerd rage. But, I see that isn't working. I'm not really sure what the pro-active solution is to reducing this.
I don't care what race/nation you're from, I'll defend your right to life from any sort of supremacist group.
No humour was implied or apparent in your original post, which was, and continues to be highly aggressive throughout.
I asked you specifically and politely without aggression:
Doesn't really fit the criteria. Could you link all the comments made on this Slashdot article fitting your specific criteria please?
While I didn't really care, once you brought up that narrative, seeing "Neo-Nazis" everywhere who are talking about "gassing everyone", I started to wonder exactly if you're more of the same intellectually dishonest people out there.
However, I'm still not going to take your word for it
Answer the question, please. This is vital information for determining the legitimacy of your anonymous comments since we don't have any posting history to go off and I cannot reproduce the claim you have made.
"Scum" is always a suitable description for neo-nazis, would you not agree?
I can't believe I have to word this carefully because people keep labelling everyone with these words.
The supposed Neo-Nazi beliefs are pretty disgusting and I would not want to associate with them. People who fit the description, yes, they are scum.
However, I've seen people accused of being "Neo-Nazis" because they had the audacity to have a discussion about implementing an immigration system (in this case, an Australian style point system, equal opportunities for everyone) or talking about how tech workers coming out of universities don't actually meet the requirements to get into the workplace (literally, technology degree doesn't give you knowledge of a CCNA, MCSA, developer certs - so, discussing implementing these with no no free pass/average adjustments etc). They're not Neo-Nazis or scum in my eyes.
Doesn't really fit the criteria. Could you link all the comments made on this Slashdot article fitting your specific criteria please?
What is more interesting is someone going by the username of "Ash-Fox" using "little furry" as an insult, when your account appears to be related to a furry user elsewhere. This likely means you are one of the neo-nazi puppet scum stealing the identity of others, and here on Slashdot. What a surprise.
Oh no, I stole my own identity and now I am a "neo-nazi puppet scum" because I object to the stupid abuse of language and end it with a self-deprecating tongue in cheek of my own. I'm sorry you lack humour.
On Slashdot too, where you'll get told off for run-on sentences, not making paragraphs. Your paranoia is ridiculous, but at least you're trying to use proper terminology now.
So your argument is Since the persons are not formally members of the nazi party, they are not nazis. That is as ridiculous as claiming Since World War II was the last formally declared war, there have been no wars since then.
I'm not sure what conversation you think you're helping by trying to make the distinction.
Slashdot is "news for nerds", these distinctions are important to nerds.
but it's the not the conversation that ends up with people understanding and dismissing Nazi-style white nationalist fascism
I'm doing you a favour by solidly hinting that there are a good chunk of people here (nerds) who really don't care what you have to say until you express it in a nerd culturally correct way. Not talking about shaping your opinion, but the use of terminology, grammar, spelling used to express it.
So those chaps making Nazi saultes, chanting "blood and soil", wearing swastikas and so on---what would you call them exactly?
I wouldn't call them Nazis because they aren't a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. Use the correct terminology, this is Slashdot.
If you want a good argument about it, I suggest you try arguing
You must be new here, you seem to think being called out for bad grammar, bad terminology etc. is some how unacceptable or that you have some chance of redefining it on Slashdot.
Where do you think you are? This isn't Twitter, argumentum ad dictionarium, equivocation or dentist fallacies have no power here.
Slashdot Mirror
Not really. It's still text and binaries.
I regret adding that as an amusing tidbit in brackets because for some reason you have taken that as the main point.
You have chosen to ignore the fact it was used for tarnishing people who weren't involved to begin with and for launching witch hunts.
Whatever you want to call this:
No, I'm referring to the annoying period when people had those, I forget the name now. They were like bots that would reply to every news post someone would make, informing everyone that they were a troll etc. It was so stupid and only lead trolls to becoming smarter and becoming harder to detect. The tool it self quickly was abused to give non-problematic people a bad reputation who couldn't hide as easily (it also made people on Fidonet really angry having to download all those extra messages from the Usenet bridge). It quickly went away as people felt it was more of a witch hunting tool.
I don't think I ever argued that? I said use the correct terminology. But you convinced me that using the correct terminology is irrelevant now.
You made your bed, now sleep in it.
Usenet.
I would do my best to save you and your family, if the world really turned to hell; I wouldn't be one of the regular population who just sat there hiding and complying.
And it shouldn't, however my view is very different.
I believe in accurately identifying who and what your enemy and problems are. If you aren't able to accurately identify what it is, you'll solve the wrong problem. This is why trolling on Twitter is becoming more creative and used against certain groups intended to protect others. When you can get the New York Times account suspended for reporting the news because all these new controls are addressing the wrong issues because they have the wrong idea of what the problem is, you're only going to give people who didn't have a weapon, a weapon now and they may not be the people who are on your side.
We have disgusting political groups that are misrepresenting the enemy of the public being particular archetypes (in recent years it's been gamers, disenfranchised youth), marking them as the enemy of issues that they many have no involvement with. People believe these groups and then call-out-culture, brings their followers to call-out these people where-ever they see it, the issue is that when you call-out someone over something that isn't quite true, you can't defend it. In turn, people the people calling out and then getting smashed in an argument, this leads people down to forming their own groups against this harassment, the political groups however will distort the purpose and meaning of these groups to be... What they were originally talking about to begin with, only reigniting the debate even further. In the meantime, this starts bringing more objectionable concepts to becoming normalized and... Well, you see what's going on.
The media on the other hand are happy as anything, normalizing all these hate messages and I made a pathetic attempt to stop it here in the comments on Slashdot through nerd rage. But, I see that isn't working. I'm not really sure what the pro-active solution is to reducing this.
I don't care what race/nation you're from, I'll defend your right to life from any sort of supremacist group.
Because the distinction isn't important any more. You win, I have adopted your language. Now rejoice you Nazi scum!
Gee, I don't know Mr. Nazi.
Okay, you win. I'll adopt your language.
Whatever you say, Nazi.
I asked you specifically and politely without aggression:
Doesn't really fit the criteria. Could you link all the comments made on this Slashdot article fitting your specific criteria please?
While I didn't really care, once you brought up that narrative, seeing "Neo-Nazis" everywhere who are talking about "gassing everyone", I started to wonder exactly if you're more of the same intellectually dishonest people out there.
Answer the question, please. This is vital information for determining the legitimacy of your anonymous comments since we don't have any posting history to go off and I cannot reproduce the claim you have made.
I can't believe I have to word this carefully because people keep labelling everyone with these words.
The supposed Neo-Nazi beliefs are pretty disgusting and I would not want to associate with them. People who fit the description, yes, they are scum.
However, I've seen people accused of being "Neo-Nazis" because they had the audacity to have a discussion about implementing an immigration system (in this case, an Australian style point system, equal opportunities for everyone) or talking about how tech workers coming out of universities don't actually meet the requirements to get into the workplace (literally, technology degree doesn't give you knowledge of a CCNA, MCSA, developer certs - so, discussing implementing these with no no free pass/average adjustments etc). They're not Neo-Nazis or scum in my eyes.
Hah, good one.
The only other comment I could find with the word 'gas' outside of ours was:
https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...
Doesn't really fit the criteria. Could you link all the comments made on this Slashdot article fitting your specific criteria please?
Oh no, I stole my own identity and now I am a "neo-nazi puppet scum" because I object to the stupid abuse of language and end it with a self-deprecating tongue in cheek of my own. I'm sorry you lack humour.
On Slashdot too, where you'll get told off for run-on sentences, not making paragraphs. Your paranoia is ridiculous, but at least you're trying to use proper terminology now.
No, I do not. But, I'm not interested in leading this into argumentum ad nauseam over outliers.
Regardless, it would be disingenuous to claim there aren't more accurate, more up to date and better terminology there to describe these people.
False equivalence. This is Slashdot, not Twitter.
Slashdot is "news for nerds", these distinctions are important to nerds.
I'm doing you a favour by solidly hinting that there are a good chunk of people here (nerds) who really don't care what you have to say until you express it in a nerd culturally correct way. Not talking about shaping your opinion, but the use of terminology, grammar, spelling used to express it.
I wouldn't call them Nazis because they aren't a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. Use the correct terminology, this is Slashdot.
You must be new here, you seem to think being called out for bad grammar, bad terminology etc. is some how unacceptable or that you have some chance of redefining it on Slashdot.
Where do you think you are? This isn't Twitter, argumentum ad dictionarium, equivocation or dentist fallacies have no power here.
No, it was just the idea of 'spam' really. I'm genuinely surprised being a Slashdot user, you forget when people tried this on Usenet.
Nazi party is long gone; there are no Nazis. Use the correct terminology or go back to Twitter.
This is Slashdot, use the correct terminology or you will be called out for it, little furry.
Nice red herring.
I honestly don't see anyone talking about gassing Jewish people?
You think bots spamming is the solution, really?
The party was dismantled generations ago, there are no more Nazis.
Nie wolno, APK.
Source code is available here for you to check:
https://archive.mozilla.org/pu...