They posit explanations that while they migh tbe possible are unsupportable and impossible to design an experiment to disprove.
Hmmmm. Sounds like a description of *every* "scientist" I've ever heard on the topic. Pleasee tell me the exact age of the universe! Give me some hard proof that this date is true. Then show me the "evidence" that there is no God. I think you and I both know that you are only fooling yourself.
I just hope that you don't realize your error too late. To have to say "KMA" to the face of a Holy God is not for the faint of heart. Be afraid. Be very Afraid!!
I'm not sure that I consider your description of socialism accurate. From dictionary.com socialism is "... a social system in which the means of producing and distributing goods are owned collectively and political power is exercised by the whole community." I don't see the comparison you're making.
I also don't believe there will be a day when corporations will operate sans-regulation. It is far more difficult to be delinquent as a Corporation (depending on what corporation you're referring to, of course) today than it was 25 years ago. I am not arguing that corporate regulation is a bad thing. It's not. I don't see how the government's role in this is socialism, though.
I agree with your statement about the quality of individuals over corporations, but I think that part of the government's job (especially state governments) is to make sure that corporations are held accountable. There should be rules in place that protect individuals from the corporations. If the rules are broken, there need to be consequences.
I am not anti-foreign. I am anti-socialism. This has nothing to do with xenophobia. This has to do with the original poster's inability to see why socialism doesn't work despite the *FACT* that it has been proven an ineffective and fatally flawed political system in other countries. It's not just about someone's belief. It's about an attempt to change this country into something it should NEVER be. Show me an example where socialism has worked. It doesn't make any sense.
My comment about "love it or leave it" is based on the fact that I am strongly opposed to socialism. It is not what the framers of our great constitution intended. Anyone who says otherwise is un-American. Yep, you heard it here. I said "Un-American". And, by the way, just because you don't agree with that doesn't make me ignorant. Ignorance means that one is unaware or uninformed about the topic. I am neither. I guess it is just your opinion that anyone who doesn't agree with you is stupid. Do you not see the problem with that?
This is such a silly argument because we are arguing about two different things. YOu think I am anti-foreign (where you derived that is beyond me) and you are trying to change me from something I never was in the first place.
I think that it's great the the US is a very culturally diverse nation. That is a benefit. However, I don't agree with the sentiment that any foreigner can come in and change our country into a socialist country (which is what I thought we were arguing about). That is one of the reasons why the constitution prohibits a foreigner from being President. The framers understood that a foreigner is not as inclined to work toward upholding the basic tenets of our Constitution. The liklihood is more toward changing it for the sake of change or familiarity. That, I believe, was a very wise safe-guard on the part of the framers.
The Constitution is a living document. It is just as relevant today as it was when it was written. It was built upon the notion that these other systems don't work. If they didn't work then, why would they work now. Anyone who tries to change this is being counter-productive to original intent.
Socialism, I believe, has no place (with the exception of learning from it's problems and discussing the positives it may have--though, I'm not aware of any) in the United States Government. Our countries roots don't suppport it and neither do I. As long as I have breath I will do whatever possible to help people to understand this. You can take that to the bank!
No offense, eh? Douchebag, eh? Looks like a contradiction to me. I'm sure that name calling is the productive culture-changing stuff that you're talking about. What an effective argument.
You are accusing me of doing the same thing you have done. You have the "right" to do that. It's called the first amendment, baby. I am free to express what I believe as are you. Love it or leave it!!!
>> (Actually, it's closer to "I am deciding to
>> bill for two fewer hours this week, but my
>> cubemate is more responsible because she is
>> buying six cups of coffee every day and
>> working a full week," but I digress...)
Are you kidding! Do you have ANY idea of how much tax the "working" class pays in countries like Germany or Holland. A large percentage of the population has become sedentary and lethargic. They let the rich "pay their way". Socialism is about as stupid a system as communism. People are not and never will be perfect. The success of these systems relies on perfect peopl. You will always have the have-nots who are that way because of laziness. These people don't care about earning a living because the government has taught them not to care. There is no room for laziness in a socialistic or communist society. It makes the whole system fall apart. Everyone has to work. So, here's my solution for you, go get back on the boat you arrived on and go away. It's *your* attitude that is screwing things up here. This is America. If you don't like it, you can leave it!! Nuff said.
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They posit explanations that while they migh tbe possible are unsupportable and impossible to design an experiment to disprove. Hmmmm. Sounds like a description of *every* "scientist" I've ever heard on the topic. Pleasee tell me the exact age of the universe! Give me some hard proof that this date is true. Then show me the "evidence" that there is no God. I think you and I both know that you are only fooling yourself. I just hope that you don't realize your error too late. To have to say "KMA" to the face of a Holy God is not for the faint of heart. Be afraid. Be very Afraid!!
I'm not sure that I consider your description of socialism accurate. From dictionary.com socialism is "... a social system in which the means of producing and distributing goods are owned collectively and political power is exercised by the whole community." I don't see the comparison you're making.
I also don't believe there will be a day when corporations will operate sans-regulation. It is far more difficult to be delinquent as a Corporation (depending on what corporation you're referring to, of course) today than it was 25 years ago. I am not arguing that corporate regulation is a bad thing. It's not. I don't see how the government's role in this is socialism, though.
I agree with your statement about the quality of individuals over corporations, but I think that part of the government's job (especially state governments) is to make sure that corporations are held accountable. There should be rules in place that protect individuals from the corporations. If the rules are broken, there need to be consequences.
I am not anti-foreign. I am anti-socialism. This has nothing to do with xenophobia. This has to do with the original poster's inability to see why socialism doesn't work despite the *FACT* that it has been proven an ineffective and fatally flawed political system in other countries. It's not just about someone's belief. It's about an attempt to change this country into something it should NEVER be. Show me an example where socialism has worked. It doesn't make any sense.
My comment about "love it or leave it" is based on the fact that I am strongly opposed to socialism. It is not what the framers of our great constitution intended. Anyone who says otherwise is un-American. Yep, you heard it here. I said "Un-American". And, by the way, just because you don't agree with that doesn't make me ignorant. Ignorance means that one is unaware or uninformed about the topic. I am neither. I guess it is just your opinion that anyone who doesn't agree with you is stupid. Do you not see the problem with that?
This is such a silly argument because we are arguing about two different things. YOu think I am anti-foreign (where you derived that is beyond me) and you are trying to change me from something I never was in the first place.
I think that it's great the the US is a very culturally diverse nation. That is a benefit. However, I don't agree with the sentiment that any foreigner can come in and change our country into a socialist country (which is what I thought we were arguing about). That is one of the reasons why the constitution prohibits a foreigner from being President. The framers understood that a foreigner is not as inclined to work toward upholding the basic tenets of our Constitution. The liklihood is more toward changing it for the sake of change or familiarity. That, I believe, was a very wise safe-guard on the part of the framers.
The Constitution is a living document. It is just as relevant today as it was when it was written. It was built upon the notion that these other systems don't work. If they didn't work then, why would they work now. Anyone who tries to change this is being counter-productive to original intent.
Socialism, I believe, has no place (with the exception of learning from it's problems and discussing the positives it may have--though, I'm not aware of any) in the United States Government. Our countries roots don't suppport it and neither do I. As long as I have breath I will do whatever possible to help people to understand this. You can take that to the bank!
No offense, eh? Douchebag, eh? Looks like a contradiction to me. I'm sure that name calling is the productive culture-changing stuff that you're talking about. What an effective argument.
You are accusing me of doing the same thing you have done. You have the "right" to do that. It's called the first amendment, baby. I am free to express what I believe as are you. Love it or leave it!!!
>> (Actually, it's closer to "I am deciding to
;-)
>> bill for two fewer hours this week, but my
>> cubemate is more responsible because she is
>> buying six cups of coffee every day and
>> working a full week," but I digress...)
LOL! I think you're on to something.
Are you kidding! Do you have ANY idea of how much tax the "working" class pays in countries like Germany or Holland. A large percentage of the population has become sedentary and lethargic. They let the rich "pay their way". Socialism is about as stupid a system as communism. People are not and never will be perfect. The success of these systems relies on perfect peopl. You will always have the have-nots who are that way because of laziness. These people don't care about earning a living because the government has taught them not to care. There is no room for laziness in a socialistic or communist society. It makes the whole system fall apart. Everyone has to work. So, here's my solution for you, go get back on the boat you arrived on and go away. It's *your* attitude that is screwing things up here. This is America. If you don't like it, you can leave it!! Nuff said.