Really? Might it be as warm as, say, your 15" monitor? i know my Sony display gets pretty toasty. Try feeling underneath the computer. It's room temperature. Most people don't notice it, but that's where the motherboard is. The monitor heats the air in the center of the machine, which rises, and exits through the top. Cooler air enters through the bottom to replace it, running across the motherboard, cooling the good stuff. It's a really good common-sense solution to the problem.
Can we please stop these brain-dead 'Apple is a monopoly' comments? Apple is, to a large extent, in a completely different market. Every Mac you buy is fully equipped to run, for the rest of its life, as it comes with a then-current version of the OS. The MacOS does not cost extra. The OS and the computer are one product. Apple sells not a computer, but an answer to the problem of computing in general (and before you zealots flame me, note that i said AN answer not THE answer. it is, however, MY answer, and that of many others.). And before you talk about how they charge for upgrades, the upgrades are just that; they upgrade my 7500 from the abysmal 7.5.2 to 9.0, or whatever. It's as much of a component of the computer as anything else inside it. Do you flame Sony for not including a Brand X CD-ROM inside the PlayStation? No, because the PlayStation is an integrated solution, just like the Macintosh.
That's sort of what Apple had in mind with OpenDoc, and to a lesser extent, M$ with OLE, and there is a damn good reason that there is still a loyal base of Cyberdog users. It was extremely cool, just a little slow and RAM-hungry. Thngs which matter less three years later.
If i remember correctly, the NetSprocket part of the latest GameSprockets was actually partly written by the almighty Bungie, to be used with Myth: The Fallen Lords (and Myth II). It was seamlessly cross-platform.
If the rage128 is so poor, then why does it allow me to play q3a on my 604e/200? So it doesn't give me 70fps at 1024x768. Does that mean the 30fps i get at 640x480 are invalid? Does that mean i have less fun fragging my roommate with his Diamond Viper? Hate to break it to you, but not every PC user has a TNT2u, and, just so you know, Voodoo3, and soon, all of nVidia's stuff, and the ATI Rage Maxx will be available for the Mac as well. When the nVidia drivers come out, barring driver disparity (admittedly present), the 3d support is a non-issue. This decision smells. How many copies of StarCraft has Blizzard sold for the Mac, given that it released it over a year later. i had been playing a late alpha for 9 months when i went and still bought my copy.
Something else motivated this decision, because it's utterly illogical.
>Also, it really pees me off >when people put MACos or BEos, since when are the >meant to be capitalized? It's Mac OS and >Be OS. Well I've had my say.
Thank you for finally pointing out the whole capitalization thing. Glad it's not just me thinking that. You can always tell an underinformed _____-bigot by their capitalization of the word MAC. For instance.
"MAC is going to go out of business any day now." "If MAC had multitasking i'd use it." "MAC's are too expensive and they dont have any software.
Huddle up to your nice warm Athlon Beowulf cluster running Linux, or go play with NetPositive under BeOS or whatever you prefer to rant off-topic about, and get your damn facts straight before you start trashing things. Even windows.
Re: "MacOS is outdated", so what if it is outdated and not fully buzzword compliant? My//c is quite outdated, so what? It still does what i need it to do, which is play Choplifter. The point is, with the burden of the obviously, oh-so-terrible *cooperative* multitasking, i'm able to write web pages in BBEdit, compose images for them in Photoshop, preview the material in Netscape, check my mail with telnet, be logged in to icq, and not have MacAMP skip a beat of Depeche Mode. This on my 3 year old 7500/200 (604e).
I don't care if it's outtdated, it just plain keeps working. And thus, so do i.
Coke is virtually outlawed at RPI. Two places to find it: Father's in the Rathskellar has Coke and all flavors of Jolt (unless i buy it all). Also, the NROTC wardroom has coke, but you can't get in there. As for computers, apparently, the new mandatory ThinkPads enforced at RPI don't even have the bundled software on CD's! You get Winblows 98, and that's it. When your 'puter crashes you have to take it to the IT folk. All this in the name of the neverending quest to become Yahoo's most wired campus.
Come on, they could take this distribution and bundle it with the new Barbie computers, and make it so that every time you started up q3a, it would say, 'wouldn't you rather play house', or when you started MAPLE, it would say 'math class is hard'. They could bundle the LinuxPPC for Girls with the Strawberry iMac, too! think of the possibilities! (And then puke.)
Wired is a bit behind talking about this; it was discussed on MacOSRumors nearly a month ago, and concluded that if Apple's motivation were to keep people from upgrading, they'd have done a better job of it. Come on, like they could really stop Newer Technology and the others. These people found a way to put a G3 in a 5-year-old 6100/60. It wouldnt surprise me to hear that they can get around any damn firmware they please. When i can afford my G4 upgrade, my 7500 will be 6 years old. Try that with anyone else's hardware.
Read todays MacOSRumors and its blurb on Altivec. Nothing definitive, but enough enthusiasm to make you wonder. It's that sort of 'I wish I could brag about the killer machine I'm using' attitude... MacOSRumors isn't typically prone to exaggerating. Can't wait to plug a G4 into my old 7500!
Slashdot can be so lame. i used to really enjoy this site. i still occasionally do, but that enjoyment is frequently tempered by my exasperation with those who populate it, nay, live for it. The administrators work really hard to deliver good content. For free. The people who take time out of their busy (ok, for some of you, busy is a stretch...) day to post things try to provide something cool or interesting for you. For free. Yet so many readers _demand_ that Mr. Katz isn't so literal. You're incensed that he speaks for the 'geek community' It's ironic that so many 'geeks', so many who were or are outcasts from 'normal' society, have now banded together, risen up, and smacked down, not an oppressor, but an ally.
The population of slashdot has completely forgotten about why it was so good in the first place. The great mass of people are so caught up in their own elitism, so narrow-minded about their own computing choices, so dead-set in their ways, that they have become the very same kind of people that they purport to despise.
If you don't agree with something, argue with the point. Don't attack the writer. Have some common courtesy, and, more importantly, some common sense.
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Really? Might it be as warm as, say, your 15" monitor? i know my Sony display gets pretty toasty. Try feeling underneath the computer. It's room temperature. Most people don't notice it, but that's where the motherboard is. The monitor heats the air in the center of the machine, which rises, and exits through the top. Cooler air enters through the bottom to replace it, running across the motherboard, cooling the good stuff. It's a really good common-sense solution to the problem.
Can we please stop these brain-dead 'Apple is a monopoly' comments? Apple is, to a large extent, in a completely different market. Every Mac you buy is fully equipped to run, for the rest of its life, as it comes with a then-current version of the OS. The MacOS does not cost extra. The OS and the computer are one product. Apple sells not a computer, but an answer to the problem of computing in general (and before you zealots flame me, note that i said AN answer not THE answer. it is, however, MY answer, and that of many others.). And before you talk about how they charge for upgrades, the upgrades are just that; they upgrade my 7500 from the abysmal 7.5.2 to 9.0, or whatever. It's as much of a component of the computer as anything else inside it. Do you flame Sony for not including a Brand X CD-ROM inside the PlayStation? No, because the PlayStation is an integrated solution, just like the Macintosh.
That's sort of what Apple had in mind with OpenDoc, and to a lesser extent, M$ with OLE, and there is a damn good reason that there is still a loyal base of Cyberdog users. It was extremely cool, just a little slow and RAM-hungry. Thngs which matter less three years later.
If i remember correctly, the NetSprocket part of the latest GameSprockets was actually partly written by the almighty Bungie, to be used with Myth: The Fallen Lords (and Myth II). It was seamlessly cross-platform.
If the rage128 is so poor, then why does it allow me to play q3a on my 604e/200? So it doesn't give me 70fps at 1024x768. Does that mean the 30fps i get at 640x480 are invalid? Does that mean i have less fun fragging my roommate with his Diamond Viper? Hate to break it to you, but not every PC user has a TNT2u, and, just so you know, Voodoo3, and soon, all of nVidia's stuff, and the ATI Rage Maxx will be available for the Mac as well. When the nVidia drivers come out, barring driver disparity (admittedly present), the 3d support is a non-issue. This decision smells. How many copies of StarCraft has Blizzard sold for the Mac, given that it released it over a year later. i had been playing a late alpha for 9 months when i went and still bought my copy.
Something else motivated this decision, because it's utterly illogical.
>Also, it really pees me off
>when people put MACos or BEos, since when are the >meant to be capitalized? It's Mac OS and
>Be OS. Well I've had my say.
Thank you for finally pointing out the whole capitalization thing. Glad it's not just me thinking that. You can always tell an underinformed _____-bigot by their capitalization of the word MAC. For instance.
"MAC is going to go out of business any day now."
"If MAC had multitasking i'd use it."
"MAC's are too expensive and they dont have any software.
Huddle up to your nice warm Athlon Beowulf cluster running Linux, or go play with NetPositive under BeOS or whatever you prefer to rant off-topic about, and get your damn facts straight before you start trashing things. Even windows.
Re: "MacOS is outdated", so what if it is outdated and not fully buzzword compliant? //c is quite outdated, so what? It still does what i need it to do, which is play Choplifter.
My
The point is, with the burden of the obviously, oh-so-terrible *cooperative* multitasking, i'm able to write web pages in BBEdit, compose images for them in Photoshop, preview the material in Netscape, check my mail with telnet, be logged in to icq, and not have MacAMP skip a beat of Depeche Mode. This on my 3 year old 7500/200 (604e).
I don't care if it's outtdated, it just plain keeps working. And thus, so do i.
Coke is virtually outlawed at RPI. Two places to find it: Father's in the Rathskellar has Coke and all flavors of Jolt (unless i buy it all). Also, the NROTC wardroom has coke, but you can't get in there.
As for computers, apparently, the new mandatory ThinkPads enforced at RPI don't even have the bundled software on CD's! You get Winblows 98, and that's it. When your 'puter crashes you have to take it to the IT folk. All this in the name of the neverending quest to become Yahoo's most wired campus.
Come on, they could take this distribution and bundle it with the new Barbie computers, and make it so that every time you started up q3a, it would say, 'wouldn't you rather play house', or when you started MAPLE, it would say 'math class is hard'. They could bundle the LinuxPPC for Girls with the Strawberry iMac, too! think of the possibilities!
(And then puke.)
Wired is a bit behind talking about this; it was discussed on MacOSRumors nearly a month ago, and concluded that if Apple's motivation were to keep people from upgrading, they'd have done a better job of it. Come on, like they could really stop Newer Technology and the others. These people found a way to put a G3 in a 5-year-old 6100/60. It wouldnt surprise me to hear that they can get around any damn firmware they please. When i can afford my G4 upgrade, my 7500 will be 6 years old. Try that with anyone else's hardware.
Read todays MacOSRumors and its blurb on Altivec. Nothing definitive, but enough enthusiasm to make you wonder. It's that sort of 'I wish I could brag about the killer machine I'm using' attitude... MacOSRumors isn't typically prone to exaggerating. Can't wait to plug a G4 into my old 7500!
Slashdot can be so lame. i used to really enjoy this site. i still occasionally do, but that enjoyment is frequently tempered by my exasperation with those who populate it, nay, live for it. The administrators work really hard to deliver good content. For free. The people who take time out of their busy (ok, for some of you, busy is a stretch...) day to post things try to provide something cool or interesting for you. For free. Yet so many readers _demand_ that Mr. Katz isn't so literal. You're incensed that he speaks for the 'geek community' It's ironic that so many 'geeks', so many who were or are outcasts from 'normal' society, have now banded together, risen up, and smacked down, not an oppressor, but an ally.
The population of slashdot has completely forgotten about why it was so good in the first place. The great mass of people are so caught up in their own elitism, so narrow-minded about their own computing choices, so dead-set in their ways, that they have become the very same kind of people that they purport to despise.
If you don't agree with something, argue with the point. Don't attack the writer.
Have some common courtesy, and, more importantly, some common sense.