Very true. Thousands may be a more accurate estimate, however, those people are the ones that have hardware hookups and stuff too. So they burn the copy for other people with the instructions "Just open your dvd player and put it in", even people with no concept of VCD or Warez or FTP sites has access to it. But I will totally agree with you that if it stays this way, then the industries are safe, and I don't think it will develop any further, because at that point, the SPA, FBI, etc get involved and thats why those kind of sites are not on Yahoo =] Its the geocities accounts that are on Yahoo, and its a given they WILL go down, just a matter of when.
I think that any company wanting to stop their product from being pirated, whether it be Software, Video, or even Playstations and N64 Games is crazy to think that we are not on track if not one step ahead of them. They aren't in the underground (at least to our knowledge), they don't see whats ACTUALLY going on, all they know is that a couple of script kiddies put it on their web page for people to download of their hacked shell accounts. In reality, its the fast FTP sites that are moving the stuff, with the introduction of FXP (proxy) to the masses, it has made a whole lot of difference in the way people pirate things. These FTP site have username/pw/ip/ident checking to make sure you or I cannot give our password out to a friend, port scanners dont work on the ports because the ip checking is done by the TCP_Wrappers and the ftp daemon before it even prompts you. With the use of port sentry most likely the firewall will ban you subnet before you even get to the port range you're looking for. So by shutting down 300-400 web pages, it may look good in their eyes, but thats about it. There is still millions more downloading it from private ftp sites that will never be stopped, IMHO.
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Very true. Thousands may be a more accurate estimate, however, those people are the ones that have hardware hookups and stuff too. So they burn the copy for other people with the instructions "Just open your dvd player and put it in", even people with no concept of VCD or Warez or FTP sites has access to it. But I will totally agree with you that if it stays this way, then the industries are safe, and I don't think it will develop any further, because at that point, the SPA, FBI, etc get involved and thats why those kind of sites are not on Yahoo =] Its the geocities accounts that are on Yahoo, and its a given they WILL go down, just a matter of when.
I think that any company wanting to stop their product from being pirated, whether it be Software, Video, or even Playstations and N64 Games is crazy to think that we are not on track if not one step ahead of them. They aren't in the underground (at least to our knowledge), they don't see whats ACTUALLY going on, all they know is that a couple of script kiddies put it on their web page for people to download of their hacked shell accounts. In reality, its the fast FTP sites that are moving the stuff, with the introduction of FXP (proxy) to the masses, it has made a whole lot of difference in the way people pirate things. These FTP site have username/pw/ip/ident checking to make sure you or I cannot give our password out to a friend, port scanners dont work on the ports because the ip checking is done by the TCP_Wrappers and the ftp daemon before it even prompts you. With the use of port sentry most likely the firewall will ban you subnet before you even get to the port range you're looking for. So by shutting down 300-400 web pages, it may look good in their eyes, but thats about it. There is still millions more downloading it from private ftp sites that will never be stopped, IMHO.