You, my friend, are being ridiculous. I tried to be a little bit nice in my response to your original post, but after reading this one I am sorry to say that I think you must be either one of the most ignorant people I've ever come into contact with, or you are just trying to provoke people with knowingly wrong facts.
There was a minor stock market correction in October, 1929 (roughly like the wobbles NASDAQ has been having the last few days). The market recovered within a few weeks, and not until years later was the correction mythologized by revisionists into a "crash". The economy was fine until 1933, when FDR, having lied his way into office, dictatorially closed the banks and threw the economy into a tailspin.
Um, I'm sorry to inform you of this, but my grandparents were alive then and I can tell you that you are wrong. Please provide support if you want anyone to take you seriously.
The so-called "witch hunt" for Communists was, quite simply, an act of self-defense in an undeclared (but very real) war. The leftists won the propaganda battle, and only recently have the real facts begun to emerge: A majority of the people accused by McCarthy of Communism were in fact registered, card-carrying Communists. This is an historical fact.
You, once again, are full of BS. Where's the proof? Oh, you're just making facts up to make you sound educated? Surprise!
And I can show you millions of homosexuals, whores, thieves, junkies, rapists, murderers, child-molesters, lesbians, drug-dealers, and the like. In your view, Communism would seem to be just one more "lifestyle choice". It's your right to believe that if you wish, but if so, it is my right and obligation to protect my nation from your actions if you should choose to move beyond words and into the realm of violence.
It is not your right to collect info, follow around, etc., people just because you don't like their lifestyle or political views. Would you like it if I now hired a private investigator to follow you around because I think you are a threat to the society?
I know I should probably ignore the comment as it is probably intended as a troll, but I do feel the need to respond anyways as I not only disagree with you, but you are blatently wrong about several things.
First of all, I am Quaker and a member of AFSC (American Friends Service Committee), so I probably know better than you do about what Quakers and AFSC do.:-) Guess that means I must be a 'devious radical left-winger', eh?
First of all I don't refute that many Quakers and AFSC have a lot of left-wing ideas. SO WHAT???? Your ridiculous post lies on the basic assumption that all left-wingers should be watched by the FBI because they are a danger to the nation. What the hell!? It is not the FBI's right to bother people with different political ideas. As far as I can tell, it is the FBI's job to prevent illegal acts, violence, etc. Quakerism is based completely on non-violence in all respects. Quakers do not support ANY type of violence. AFSC, in fact, teaches courses on non-violence not only for holding protests, but also to inner city children to use in their own lives, for example. Quakers and AFSC do not allow for violence at all in their methods. They also do not promote illegal activities. A few Quakers do choose to take non-violent protest to the extent of participating in "non-violent civil disobedience". This is not something that is harming the country. It is a way of making a political point. Much like having the deCSS code available on one's website. Just because a person or organization has different political ideas from your own, does not mean that they are trying to harm the country, provoke violence, etc. Your comments about AFSC (and others, for the matter) posing a "clear threat to the welfare of the nation" are entirely lacking support.
Just a couple other minor things to clear up so you can better understand Quakerism:
Quakers don't try to become confused with the Amish. What a ridiculous accusation!? Why would any Quaker do that! The confusion comes from the fact that Quakers believe in "living simply", which does not mean without things like electricity. It just means trying to avoid excess so that the excess can be given to those who need it. Perhaps some of the confusion also comes from a certain company that likes to put pictures of Amish or Quakers from many many years ago on their oatmeal boxes.;-)
I'm not going to bother arguing about whether or not Quakerism is a branch of Christianity. Does it really matter??? It is a religion. Who cares if it is a branch of some other religion? I can tell you though that no one is trying to confuse you about whether or not Quakers are Christians. Its just that many Quakers do believe in the divinity of Christ and do consider the bible an important source, so they consider themselves Christians.
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There was a minor stock market correction in October, 1929 (roughly like the wobbles NASDAQ has been having the last few days). The market recovered within a few weeks, and not until years later was the correction mythologized by revisionists into a "crash". The economy was fine until 1933, when FDR, having lied his way into office, dictatorially closed the banks and threw the economy into a tailspin.
Um, I'm sorry to inform you of this, but my grandparents were alive then and I can tell you that you are wrong. Please provide support if you want anyone to take you seriously.
The so-called "witch hunt" for Communists was, quite simply, an act of self-defense in an undeclared (but very real) war. The leftists won the propaganda battle, and only recently have the real facts begun to emerge: A majority of the people accused by McCarthy of Communism were in fact registered, card-carrying Communists. This is an historical fact.
You, once again, are full of BS. Where's the proof? Oh, you're just making facts up to make you sound educated? Surprise!
And I can show you millions of homosexuals, whores, thieves, junkies, rapists, murderers, child-molesters, lesbians, drug-dealers, and the like. In your view, Communism would seem to be just one more "lifestyle choice". It's your right to believe that if you wish, but if so, it is my right and obligation to protect my nation from your actions if you should choose to move beyond words and into the realm of violence.
It is not your right to collect info, follow around, etc., people just because you don't like their lifestyle or political views. Would you like it if I now hired a private investigator to follow you around because I think you are a threat to the society?
First of all, I am Quaker and a member of AFSC (American Friends Service Committee), so I probably know better than you do about what Quakers and AFSC do. :-) Guess that means I must be a 'devious radical left-winger', eh?
First of all I don't refute that many Quakers and AFSC have a lot of left-wing ideas. SO WHAT???? Your ridiculous post lies on the basic assumption that all left-wingers should be watched by the FBI because they are a danger to the nation. What the hell!? It is not the FBI's right to bother people with different political ideas. As far as I can tell, it is the FBI's job to prevent illegal acts, violence, etc. Quakerism is based completely on non-violence in all respects. Quakers do not support ANY type of violence. AFSC, in fact, teaches courses on non-violence not only for holding protests, but also to inner city children to use in their own lives, for example. Quakers and AFSC do not allow for violence at all in their methods. They also do not promote illegal activities. A few Quakers do choose to take non-violent protest to the extent of participating in "non-violent civil disobedience". This is not something that is harming the country. It is a way of making a political point. Much like having the deCSS code available on one's website. Just because a person or organization has different political ideas from your own, does not mean that they are trying to harm the country, provoke violence, etc. Your comments about AFSC (and others, for the matter) posing a "clear threat to the welfare of the nation" are entirely lacking support.
Just a couple other minor things to clear up so you can better understand Quakerism:
Quakers don't try to become confused with the Amish. What a ridiculous accusation!? Why would any Quaker do that! The confusion comes from the fact that Quakers believe in "living simply", which does not mean without things like electricity. It just means trying to avoid excess so that the excess can be given to those who need it. Perhaps some of the confusion also comes from a certain company that likes to put pictures of Amish or Quakers from many many years ago on their oatmeal boxes. ;-)
I'm not going to bother arguing about whether or not Quakerism is a branch of Christianity. Does it really matter??? It is a religion. Who cares if it is a branch of some other religion? I can tell you though that no one is trying to confuse you about whether or not Quakers are Christians. Its just that many Quakers do believe in the divinity of Christ and do consider the bible an important source, so they consider themselves Christians.