The establishment clause never was referred to as separation of church and state until 1948. Since Tom Jefferson and the other writers of the constitution were long gone and there was no constitutional ammendment this was one more example of legislation from the bench.
"No matter how noble the result appears, any portion of the government usurping the authority of the other will soon lead to ruin." Ralph Brandt
By the people who have posted in this thread I am a neocon, a fundamentalist christian and a lot of other things they detest.
Their venom in this points out clearly the lack of objectivity.
As a 61 year old born again christian who holds a college degree in Math with a lot of science including Biology and Geology I clearly see holes in BOTH the theories of intelligent design and evolution! They are there. They are clear. And in both.
But let me clarify this. The origin of things like the end of the age are complex subjects. To think our finite minds can grasp them totally is just plain arrogance and pride. This has been the flawed reasoning of the intelligent design and evolution theorists as well as the ent time theorists. I believe the basic story of creation in the scripture is true. But most if not all of the sideboards that the creationists have placed on the biblical account just don't wash. I believe much of Darwin's theory has credibility. But there is some of it that has never been proven that is being taught in schools. Please, I have sat in hundreds of hours of class. I know what was taught.
I have held fossils. I have looked a rock strata. I know what I see. But I have also looked at the scriptures. And I know what I see there.
We must remember that the bible is a book about God and his love for man - not a science book. We must remember that Darwins theory is just that, AN UNPROVEN THEORY, and it is a finite picture of something that is close to infinite. We are trying to place the work of the God of the ages in a small box that has a size of less than 1/4 of a cubic foot, our minds. He doesn't fit.
Ironically I just threw out the last two sentences in another forum yesterday, the prayer time before our Sunday Morning Church Service and it was as appropriate there as here! We try to put God in the box.
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The establishment clause never was referred to as separation of church and state until 1948. Since Tom Jefferson and the other writers of the constitution were long gone and there was no constitutional ammendment this was one more example of legislation from the bench. "No matter how noble the result appears, any portion of the government usurping the authority of the other will soon lead to ruin." Ralph Brandt
By the people who have posted in this thread I am a neocon, a fundamentalist christian and a lot of other things they detest. Their venom in this points out clearly the lack of objectivity. As a 61 year old born again christian who holds a college degree in Math with a lot of science including Biology and Geology I clearly see holes in BOTH the theories of intelligent design and evolution! They are there. They are clear. And in both. But let me clarify this. The origin of things like the end of the age are complex subjects. To think our finite minds can grasp them totally is just plain arrogance and pride. This has been the flawed reasoning of the intelligent design and evolution theorists as well as the ent time theorists. I believe the basic story of creation in the scripture is true. But most if not all of the sideboards that the creationists have placed on the biblical account just don't wash. I believe much of Darwin's theory has credibility. But there is some of it that has never been proven that is being taught in schools. Please, I have sat in hundreds of hours of class. I know what was taught. I have held fossils. I have looked a rock strata. I know what I see. But I have also looked at the scriptures. And I know what I see there. We must remember that the bible is a book about God and his love for man - not a science book. We must remember that Darwins theory is just that, AN UNPROVEN THEORY, and it is a finite picture of something that is close to infinite. We are trying to place the work of the God of the ages in a small box that has a size of less than 1/4 of a cubic foot, our minds. He doesn't fit. Ironically I just threw out the last two sentences in another forum yesterday, the prayer time before our Sunday Morning Church Service and it was as appropriate there as here! We try to put God in the box.
Follow this logic proof.
Premise....
intelegant design != God
intelegant is correctly spelled intelligent.
the original poster is intelegant.
The meaning of intelegant is ambiguous...