Article1, section 8 lays out ALL the specific things that the government is ALLOWED to do.
Amendment 9 says other rights shall not be taken away. Amendment 10 says if the right isn't given to the federal government, then it's the states and/or peoples rights.
I just need something nobody can break into. This Apple thing makes a good story. If it's true, I don't need your approval at all. Privacy will be mine, and you will just have to live with it.
And that is why the DoJ is fighting so hard against it.
Thank God that Apple has enough money to fight them.
Well, if they quit because they don't want to work on the GovtOS, then supposedly the Govt already has access to the source code, so they could provide that to the unemployed. With a (literal or figurative) gun to their heads.
Scroll down a little & read in chronological order the details of what came out this week. 4th amendment denials, among other things. Secret courts are TOTALLY worth it./s
Are you seriously bashing people who have morals over greed?
My question is similar, but for completely different reasons. IF they quit, they don't (directly) have the support & resources of Apple. Then the gov't can force/threaten them directly.
The real news story is how lavabit was abused in closed court. And they fought back - a bit. Sent the required SSL encryption keys(!) as 4point 11 page document rather than.pem files.
Yep. It's even in the comments of TFA is a way that they can - state of emergency orders. The ones from Jimmy Carter & Iranian hostages are still in effect, so this is definitely not out of the realm of possibilities.
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There's already like a dozen amicus briefs from tech companies, all FOR Apple.
Apple, and the US as a whole, are lucky that this fight isn't in a FISA court.
Where clearly the judges are HIGHLY biased towards the government.
Says the guy without a metaphorical gun, held by the federal government, in his face.
Article1, section 8 lays out ALL the specific things that the government is ALLOWED to do.
Amendment 9 says other rights shall not be taken away.
Amendment 10 says if the right isn't given to the federal government, then it's the states and/or peoples rights.
You don't go to Gitmo for "Oops!"
There's people in gitmo for less than that - the color of their skin.
Some are 'combatants', some are not.
They're compelled. But by money, not the government. It's actually a critically important point.
I just need something nobody can break into. This Apple thing makes a good story. If it's true, I don't need your approval at all. Privacy will be mine, and you will just have to live with it.
And that is why the DoJ is fighting so hard against it.
Thank God that Apple has enough money to fight them.
If they use the 'encryption breaking schemes' that they used on lavabit, the court just forces them to hand over the SSL keys.
No, he just finished reading the constitution & bill of rights.
Well, the voters have to be complicit in that as well....
See my response above. Basically, if it got to that point, the govt would already have the source code.
Well, if they quit because they don't want to work on the GovtOS, then supposedly the Govt already has access to the source code, so they could provide that to the unemployed. With a (literal or figurative) gun to their heads.
Ha, that's not even close to the worst.
See what the gov't did to Lavabit.
Scroll down a little & read in chronological order the details of what came out this week. 4th amendment denials, among other things. Secret courts are TOTALLY worth it. /s
https://twitter.com/JZdziarski
Are you seriously bashing people who have morals over greed?
My question is similar, but for completely different reasons. IF they quit, they don't (directly) have the support & resources of Apple. Then the gov't can force/threaten them directly.
The point GP was trying to make is that many people are not reasonable and cannot draw conclusions well, so NEED obvious answers.
You really think they would take it this far without direct orders from the president?
The real news story is how lavabit was abused in closed court. And they fought back - a bit. Sent the required SSL encryption keys(!) as 4point 11 page document rather than .pem files.
https://twitter.com/JZdziarski...
Read all the other bullshit that the government AND the court/judge got away with behind closed doors.
From someone up above:
"Has it occurred to you that Apple is more expensive exactly because they're not making a profit off mining your data?"
Well, the government can always just force you to turn over the keys and access ALL of your customers' info that uses them for encryption.
It's what they did to Lavabit.
https://twitter.com/JZdziarski...
The NSA could have easily hacked the phone this past summer.
It's not about the hack...
You should see what they did to Lavabit under the guise of security.
Holy fucking shit.
https://twitter.com/JZdziarski
They were literally denied their 4th Amendment rights by a FUCKING FEDERAL JUDGE.
because webpages can have built in ads & trackers.
Actually, with facetime & imessage, they are a communications carrier.
Well, except that it's his DOJ that is fighting this, so it's not just with his blessing, but with his direct orders to fight this fight.
Yep. It's even in the comments of TFA is a way that they can - state of emergency orders. The ones from Jimmy Carter & Iranian hostages are still in effect, so this is definitely not out of the realm of possibilities.