These speeds are not close to what's possible to get.. We have 21Mbits 3G here in Sweden and max speed is around 14-15Mbits.. All the companies are taken to the consumer court for false claims in adverts and in the product.. The companies have now come together and set rules advertising only the top maximal speed possible practically, not thoretically...
Recent studies shows that more then 500 000 Swedes download at least 1 TV show each week.. I wonder how only 100 000 ppl download the new 24 every week?
I have been a part of the highest level of the scene. What made me quit the scene was simply the time it took - time which actually wasn't needed for me in order to maintain my high level position - it was the thrill, the amusement and the late nights when the big releases were pre'd.
Anyway, I wanted to reply to this thread as I think that not many seem to relize what the scene really is. Being a part of a "elite IRC channel" is NOT the scene. The scene goes beyond this, and these distro sites and channels are the sources that ppl inside the scene sees as the 1st main source of attention to the feds, as its from here the release goes onto P2P and become widly spread (the whole purpose of the scene is to keep it inside the small box, but few individuals makes this impossible, this is alot because of jealousy and the need to brag as these individuals are ppl who are lower down in the scene pyramid.)
The scene has become a place of lies and status, and as time has passed MORE money has come to be involved. I think that it has been hard to miss what happend to a few FLT members in Operation FastLink (ironic operation name) - One FLT member had sold access to a pretty big site, one of the topsites (ranked very highly when I was in the scene). I mean paying for access to such a site might not seem like that much, but often a minimum price can be like 1-2TB SCSI drives for 1-2 leech accounts, and that is (think 2 years ago) alot of money.
Back to my thoughts about what the scene really is beyond the Topsites (ranked by charts updated weekly, different charts exist depending on release type, i.e. APPS-iSO, iSO (games), MP3 and so on, also site-rings (a number of sites hooked together carrying currier-groups which compete in who's curried the most each week)), and the thousands of smaller sites around. Topsites are managed by different groups, curriers grp with maybe a few releases, but also bigger groups (FLT had their own local sites which the pre'd on to keep the FTL-iSO core secret). These highly ranked sites are very expensive to keep up. The work behind getting one of these running is enormous. The 1st thing which is done is finding the link, offcourse 100mbit+ (2,5Gbit is nice;)) then it also must be in the right location of the world to get the right affils (groups to pre) on them, I mean having 1-2.us site's with i.e. MONEY on them is enougth - also, sites compete with each other. After the link is found its speedtested to the high ranked sites around the world -.us -->.nl 7MB/s+ would be considerd 'okay' for a 100mbit (would get the competition in ex. the TV scene started from the dominating LOL group).
Link is fine, then there is all the HW which is required, if u find this guy who is hooked on 2TB 100mbit, you kinda know that its a fed or something is seriously wrong. Anyway, HW is expensive - Getting a damn stable BOX packed with TB's of ususal IDE and some SCSI for that 100mbit is not that cheap. A new site need to have everything to get the grps to affil on it, and off course, whoever is setting everything up needs to know the right ppl to push everything around. Sometimes even trips can be made to the location of the server to get everything right done right (glFTPd and traffic bncers and other various TCLs can be bitchy)... So what are we up for? $3000-4000 for just the set-up? For this HW-suppliers are found (they get leech). BW is usually what comes free in the scence that its leeched on big fat corporate pipes, but transfer would be counted, depending on type of site, from 15TB to 1PB/mnth...
This was only some information that i would like to share to make ppl realise what kinda money is being spent on other things then getting movie-screnners and such (Think about what it costs to maintain the fastest HDTV recorder in the scene)
Its a very secret society were no1 really knows who the other ppl are (some exceptions) - another fact is that the idea was not to make the releases public (isonews, nforce, swedupe, mp3shitter and so on, P2P, stupid egoistic individuals and so on)
I'm though very glad that I quit this nonsense! Happy New Year!
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These speeds are not close to what's possible to get.. We have 21Mbits 3G here in Sweden and max speed is around 14-15Mbits.. All the companies are taken to the consumer court for false claims in adverts and in the product.. The companies have now come together and set rules advertising only the top maximal speed possible practically, not thoretically...
Recent studies shows that more then 500 000 Swedes download at least 1 TV show each week.. I wonder how only 100 000 ppl download the new 24 every week?
I have been a part of the highest level of the scene. What made me quit the scene was simply the time it took - time which actually wasn't needed for me in order to maintain my high level position - it was the thrill, the amusement and the late nights when the big releases were pre'd. Anyway, I wanted to reply to this thread as I think that not many seem to relize what the scene really is. Being a part of a "elite IRC channel" is NOT the scene. The scene goes beyond this, and these distro sites and channels are the sources that ppl inside the scene sees as the 1st main source of attention to the feds, as its from here the release goes onto P2P and become widly spread (the whole purpose of the scene is to keep it inside the small box, but few individuals makes this impossible, this is alot because of jealousy and the need to brag as these individuals are ppl who are lower down in the scene pyramid.) The scene has become a place of lies and status, and as time has passed MORE money has come to be involved. I think that it has been hard to miss what happend to a few FLT members in Operation FastLink (ironic operation name) - One FLT member had sold access to a pretty big site, one of the topsites (ranked very highly when I was in the scene). I mean paying for access to such a site might not seem like that much, but often a minimum price can be like 1-2TB SCSI drives for 1-2 leech accounts, and that is (think 2 years ago) alot of money. Back to my thoughts about what the scene really is beyond the Topsites (ranked by charts updated weekly, different charts exist depending on release type, i.e. APPS-iSO, iSO (games), MP3 and so on, also site-rings (a number of sites hooked together carrying currier-groups which compete in who's curried the most each week)), and the thousands of smaller sites around. Topsites are managed by different groups, curriers grp with maybe a few releases, but also bigger groups (FLT had their own local sites which the pre'd on to keep the FTL-iSO core secret). These highly ranked sites are very expensive to keep up. The work behind getting one of these running is enormous. The 1st thing which is done is finding the link, offcourse 100mbit+ (2,5Gbit is nice ;)) then it also must be in the right location of the world to get the right affils (groups to pre) on them, I mean having 1-2 .us site's with i.e. MONEY on them is enougth - also, sites compete with each other. After the link is found its speedtested to the high ranked sites around the world - .us --> .nl 7MB/s+ would be considerd 'okay' for a 100mbit (would get the competition in ex. the TV scene started from the dominating LOL group).
Link is fine, then there is all the HW which is required, if u find this guy who is hooked on 2TB 100mbit, you kinda know that its a fed or something is seriously wrong. Anyway, HW is expensive - Getting a damn stable BOX packed with TB's of ususal IDE and some SCSI for that 100mbit is not that cheap. A new site need to have everything to get the grps to affil on it, and off course, whoever is setting everything up needs to know the right ppl to push everything around. Sometimes even trips can be made to the location of the server to get everything right done right (glFTPd and traffic bncers and other various TCLs can be bitchy)... So what are we up for? $3000-4000 for just the set-up? For this HW-suppliers are found (they get leech). BW is usually what comes free in the scence that its leeched on big fat corporate pipes, but transfer would be counted, depending on type of site, from 15TB to 1PB/mnth...
This was only some information that i would like to share to make ppl realise what kinda money is being spent on other things then getting movie-screnners and such (Think about what it costs to maintain the fastest HDTV recorder in the scene)
Its a very secret society were no1 really knows who the other ppl are (some exceptions) - another fact is that the idea was not to make the releases public (isonews, nforce, swedupe, mp3shitter and so on, P2P, stupid egoistic individuals and so on)
I'm though very glad that I quit this nonsense! Happy New Year!