an intelligent, young, adventurous member of the species
I suggest you go back and review your history. The people who founded Netscape were as much hardasses as Gates and everyone else at Microsoft. These are the people who claimed they had "invented" the Internet (even before Gore) and took all the glory away from Berners-Lee and his team. It's just that they were not as good at the game as Microsoft were. They released a buggy unstable 3-4.x product that couldn't possibly compete with IE4 and then when they got reamed (Navigator was free, just like IE, remember?) they went to court to claim that Netscape engineers were not "weenies".
poorly written VB, Office, and Access applications
Yes, because I'm sure that the same people who wrote those applications would have done wonders with C, Python and Perl. After all, we all know it's the language, not the developer.
True, I stand corrected, on the quote attribution as well. Since I got both wrong, I suppose all that is left for me is to make a bad joke, so remember that IN SOVIET RUSSIA WAR FOGS YOU!
And it's never, ever going to go away. Clausewitz (I think) once said that no plan ever survives contact with the enemy. His words are true today as they were in the 16th century.
It's a simple algorithmic problem. The more advanced warfare becomes, the faster and deadlier it is. Military technology will probably always end up trying to reach the speed it has itself dictated for the battlefield.
Windows XP Pro OEM volume license pricing is about $40-45, depending on what the volume is.
That's $40 more than I'd be willing to pay for a copy of Windows XP (although I have to admit Windows 2000 was OK), but your $100 figure is definitely too high.
Then again I paid $50 or so for a shrinkwrapped copy of SuSE at BestBuy about a year ago, but for entirely different reasons than to just "lease" an OS. Freedom has no price =)
Look, I don't like Microsoft any more then you, probably. But "M$" is about as childish, retarded and passe as anything anyone can come up with, including "open sores". It doesn't matter how much you try to rationalize it.
made a system that automatically installs software from any random internet site?
Automatically... what? WTF does that mean?
Librarians go through absurd lengths, such as automated software that reinstalls windoze every day
Um, WTF are you talking about? Reinstall "Windoze" every day?? Are you on crack? By god, are you actually generalizing this?
For all that work, it's still an insecure, single user OS that should not be trusted
No, "twitter", it's not a single user OS. I suppose you need to wrap yourself in your Linux security blanket to justify your existence, but Windows NT4 or anything newer supports multiple users just fine. XP supports multiple concurrent users, sort of like X (but it's a simpler system, unless you use a full-fledged TS server). No one has to read anyone else's files, and the whole thing is easily secured and restricted if you know what you're doing. If you cannot be bothered to figure out how "Windoze" works, then I suggest you stop offering your opinion as to why "it sucks". I don't even use Windows nowadays, but your vacuous claims that it's somehow hopelessly unusable are simply stupid.
Gawd I go away for a few months and here you are offering the same tired "M$" "Windoze" and "i don't want to hear it" ejecta. You insult everyone's intelligence by wading in here and spouting your tired bullshit. Go away.
What Linux market? The desktop users? How relevant of a market is that today?
Don't get me wrong, I wish there was a Linux market. But it makes absolutely no sense today for a company to target the Linux desktop... because it simply is not there.
It's one of those things that 5th graders would come up with by permuting a kid's last name into the closest word for a bodily function they can think of.
I suppose "Winblows", "Windoze", "Lookout", "Microsloth", "Microserf", "Internet Exploder" and on and on and on... and on are something else entirely - the cry of an entire generation yearning to break free from the surly bonds of evil.
Or something like that. I mean, whatever I can come up with must be as insightful as this little essay of yours on why "M$" is some sort of valid expression but "open sores" is... childish.
uhhhh... fear, fear. Grow some balls and log in, or shut the fuck up.
Jeesus farkin' christ, no one can question your allmighty ideals and not be acused of "trolling". I just don't porkin' like KDE and I use XFCE. Get the fuck over it.
My opinion: the GUI changes look too much like Windows/Internet Explorer for my tastes; I guess it's not just KDE
Honestly I'm getting a bit tired of this march towards boring copied GUIs that only half-work. I mean, KDE is becoming almost unusable with all the crap in the menu and little parts and whatnot. I mean, I suppose it's nice for new users but I really don't like it.
No disrespect to the GNOME and KDE hackers, but it's good to have choices. The big desktops are becoming more difficult and time consuming to customize "just right*.
I suppose they weren't running Windows or any Microsoft product, because it would have been helpfully pointed out again and again in the article and the Slashdot submission.
Furthermore the discussion would be about how scientists are 'stupid' because they don't use Linux (preferably Gentoo would be my guess) instead of about security or cracker ethics and so on.
When the case is made against Microsoft (or "M$") and how "Windoze" is insecure and should be replaced by Leenucks, the argument is always "the worms and the viruses and malware cost businesses trillions and gazillions of dollars".
But when they nail a dumbass kid who thought he was 1337 and releases a virus (or a variation of one) then it's "phantom damages".
Really. And what do we call RedHat's "errata" then? Because it's mostly used in the context of publications, I'd say it confuses users even more than the word "service pack".
Microsoft customers have come to understand quite well what a SP is. If anything, their use of "rollup fixpacks" and things like that are confusing, albeit they're used mostly in the corporate context.
I've never heard anyone say it was MS's fault that people can make a convincing fake browser interface to fool people. Hell, all of slashdot has discussed this type of thing before, with the old ads some companies made to look like popup dialog boxes. Those fooled a lot of people, but I've never heard anyone say it was MS's fault.
That's ridiculous, it happens every single time. Every virus that requires user intervention is Microsoft's fault; every piece of malware on a user's machine is Microsoft's fault.
I don't care much for defending them, but if it quacks like a duck then let's stop pretending our poultry is magically superior and call it a chicken just so we can feel smug.
Mark my words - we are going to be seeing many more of these as time goes by. I knew this would eventually happen; it had to. There's nothing wrong with having bugs. Mozilla is a complex piece of software. What pisses me off is the whole "this is a confidential bug" thing. The Mozilla folks have done a fantastic job but this detracts enourmously from their good image.
Fuck you, your silly jihad arguments and your sad habit of calling anyone who doesn't conform to the party line "troll". I wasn't "defending" IE; I don't even use it. I have however contributed a few bug reports to Mozilla and I run the nightly builds now and then to help them out in testing. It's my prerogative to complain about this stupid policy of having "confidential" bugs. I expected more from them.
I'm not about to discuss anything with someone who posts ridiculous claptrap like this.
Now go back to your cave and don't come out until you've managed to get a grip on reality.
That's nice, except that when "blackhats" do the same thing to people who use IE then it's Microsoft's fault.
Oh, and there's no excuse for "security through obscurity", especially when you've spent the past five years ridiculing the evil empire for it and thumping your chest singing the praises of being open and honest about the same thing. I don't care if this particular issue is interpreted as a bug, a vuln, a feature or anything else. The Mozilla folks kept this jewel mum for five years as far as I can tell. You know what? That means that XUL is probably flawed in some fundamental way and they know it. And if that's not the case, the fact that they hid it sure makes it seem that way.
I suspect we're going to start seeing many more of these as Mozilla gains a foothold. Perhaps all our retarded zealot fanboys will being the understand that actual vulnerabilities aside (which affect all code), plain user stupidity and the fundamental problems of the browser as an application platform make up for a large percentage of the perceived problems with IE. Heck, the other day I rain into a page that wanted me to install some XPI malware.
Maybe we're not so superior after all when people actually use what we do. Reality intrudes on the best laid plans, I guess.
I'll ignore the personal insults. I'm used to that kind of thing and worse from M$ apologists. Name calling is integral to enslavement, so those who wish to enslave will always have offensive mouths.
You were asked to provide backing to your assertion that SQL Server uses hidden APIs to compete unfairly - you didn't.
Then you said you had provided "proof" that Excel uses hidden APIs, when it was an AC that said that while telling you you were stupid.
You went to Google and you searched for "Hidden API Microsoft" and you posted the first link you found that was remotely on topic, yet it was the best example of what a hidden API is not.
You got a ton of replies from a bunch of different people telling you how full of shit you are, and true to form you claimed you were being unfairly attacked by "Microsoft apologists", no less.
You started to feel trapped by your own stupidity and again true to form you quoted selectively, called someone "demented" and "insane bitch", waived your arms and wiggled your ass out of the room claiming victory.
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I suggest you go back and review your history. The people who founded Netscape were as much hardasses as Gates and everyone else at Microsoft. These are the people who claimed they had "invented" the Internet (even before Gore) and took all the glory away from Berners-Lee and his team. It's just that they were not as good at the game as Microsoft were. They released a buggy unstable 3-4.x product that couldn't possibly compete with IE4 and then when they got reamed (Navigator was free, just like IE, remember?) they went to court to claim that Netscape engineers were not "weenies".
poorly written VB, Office, and Access applications
Yes, because I'm sure that the same people who wrote those applications would have done wonders with C, Python and Perl. After all, we all know it's the language, not the developer.
Oh well.
Goin' to sleep now.
It's a simple algorithmic problem. The more advanced warfare becomes, the faster and deadlier it is. Military technology will probably always end up trying to reach the speed it has itself dictated for the battlefield.
That's $40 more than I'd be willing to pay for a copy of Windows XP (although I have to admit Windows 2000 was OK), but your $100 figure is definitely too high.
Then again I paid $50 or so for a shrinkwrapped copy of SuSE at BestBuy about a year ago, but for entirely different reasons than to just "lease" an OS. Freedom has no price =)
Look, I don't like Microsoft any more then you, probably. But "M$" is about as childish, retarded and passe as anything anyone can come up with, including "open sores". It doesn't matter how much you try to rationalize it.
"M$"!? How original!
made a system that automatically installs software from any random internet site?
Automatically... what? WTF does that mean?
Librarians go through absurd lengths, such as automated software that reinstalls windoze every day
Um, WTF are you talking about? Reinstall "Windoze" every day?? Are you on crack? By god, are you actually generalizing this?
For all that work, it's still an insecure, single user OS that should not be trusted
No, "twitter", it's not a single user OS. I suppose you need to wrap yourself in your Linux security blanket to justify your existence, but Windows NT4 or anything newer supports multiple users just fine. XP supports multiple concurrent users, sort of like X (but it's a simpler system, unless you use a full-fledged TS server). No one has to read anyone else's files, and the whole thing is easily secured and restricted if you know what you're doing. If you cannot be bothered to figure out how "Windoze" works, then I suggest you stop offering your opinion as to why "it sucks". I don't even use Windows nowadays, but your vacuous claims that it's somehow hopelessly unusable are simply stupid.
Gawd I go away for a few months and here you are offering the same tired "M$" "Windoze" and "i don't want to hear it" ejecta. You insult everyone's intelligence by wading in here and spouting your tired bullshit. Go away.
Don't get me wrong, I wish there was a Linux market. But it makes absolutely no sense today for a company to target the Linux desktop... because it simply is not there.
I suppose "Winblows", "Windoze", "Lookout", "Microsloth", "Microserf", "Internet Exploder" and on and on and on... and on are something else entirely - the cry of an entire generation yearning to break free from the surly bonds of evil.
Or something like that. I mean, whatever I can come up with must be as insightful as this little essay of yours on why "M$" is some sort of valid expression but "open sores" is... childish.
Man, this place cracks me up.
What patches???
C# was "born" in 1998 or thereabouts. If you mean the first base language spec.
the java implementations are much more usefull in practice (and less dangerous)
How cute.
uhhhh... fear, fear. Grow some balls and log in, or shut the fuck up.
Jeesus farkin' christ, no one can question your allmighty ideals and not be acused of "trolling". I just don't porkin' like KDE and I use XFCE. Get the fuck over it.
Honestly I'm getting a bit tired of this march towards boring copied GUIs that only half-work. I mean, KDE is becoming almost unusable with all the crap in the menu and little parts and whatnot. I mean, I suppose it's nice for new users but I really don't like it.
That's why I went with the little mouse.
No disrespect to the GNOME and KDE hackers, but it's good to have choices. The big desktops are becoming more difficult and time consuming to customize "just right*.
Furthermore the discussion would be about how scientists are 'stupid' because they don't use Linux (preferably Gentoo would be my guess) instead of about security or cracker ethics and so on.
Uncanny.
Awww, look. What a novel idea for a Slashdot post, in a MS bashing article of all places!
I am shocked! Shocked, I tell you!
Where is your open source project. Let's see it.
When the case is made against Microsoft (or "M$") and how "Windoze" is insecure and should be replaced by Leenucks, the argument is always "the worms and the viruses and malware cost businesses trillions and gazillions of dollars".
But when they nail a dumbass kid who thought he was 1337 and releases a virus (or a variation of one) then it's "phantom damages".
That's great.
Microsoft customers have come to understand quite well what a SP is. If anything, their use of "rollup fixpacks" and things like that are confusing, albeit they're used mostly in the corporate context.
What part of "go back to your cave" did you not understand.
That's ridiculous, it happens every single time. Every virus that requires user intervention is Microsoft's fault; every piece of malware on a user's machine is Microsoft's fault.
I don't care much for defending them, but if it quacks like a duck then let's stop pretending our poultry is magically superior and call it a chicken just so we can feel smug.
Mark my words - we are going to be seeing many more of these as time goes by. I knew this would eventually happen; it had to. There's nothing wrong with having bugs. Mozilla is a complex piece of software. What pisses me off is the whole "this is a confidential bug" thing. The Mozilla folks have done a fantastic job but this detracts enourmously from their good image.
I'm not about to discuss anything with someone who posts ridiculous claptrap like this.
Now go back to your cave and don't come out until you've managed to get a grip on reality.
Oh, and there's no excuse for "security through obscurity", especially when you've spent the past five years ridiculing the evil empire for it and thumping your chest singing the praises of being open and honest about the same thing. I don't care if this particular issue is interpreted as a bug, a vuln, a feature or anything else. The Mozilla folks kept this jewel mum for five years as far as I can tell. You know what? That means that XUL is probably flawed in some fundamental way and they know it. And if that's not the case, the fact that they hid it sure makes it seem that way.
I suspect we're going to start seeing many more of these as Mozilla gains a foothold. Perhaps all our retarded zealot fanboys will being the understand that actual vulnerabilities aside (which affect all code), plain user stupidity and the fundamental problems of the browser as an application platform make up for a large percentage of the perceived problems with IE. Heck, the other day I rain into a page that wanted me to install some XPI malware.
Maybe we're not so superior after all when people actually use what we do. Reality intrudes on the best laid plans, I guess.
Try five years.
No, those cool 503 server errors are real.
Seek help. Professional help.
Then you said you had provided "proof" that Excel uses hidden APIs, when it was an AC that said that while telling you you were stupid.
You went to Google and you searched for "Hidden API Microsoft" and you posted the first link you found that was remotely on topic, yet it was the best example of what a hidden API is not.
You got a ton of replies from a bunch of different people telling you how full of shit you are, and true to form you claimed you were being unfairly attacked by "Microsoft apologists", no less.
You started to feel trapped by your own stupidity and again true to form you quoted selectively, called someone "demented" and "insane bitch", waived your arms and wiggled your ass out of the room claiming victory.
Fucking pathetic.