Thats a hell of an headline for a story that goes on to describe a report that only says linux has a way to go before becoming a full replacement for Windows.
They only touch on the report in 1/5th of the article. The rest being other sources. Here are the choice quotes they chose to use:
"We believe Linux deployments for desktops will not usurp OS dominance from Microsoft."
Hmmm.... that seems to mean linux will not get more than 50% of the desktop os market. Makes sense to me. Look at the number of AOL users out there.
"Linux will continue to appeal to its devotees and, as it improves over time, to broader audiences,"
That doesn't seem like a slam. It sounds more like a observation of good things to come.
"Linux is the 'hype du jour' that is thought by some to have the potential to upset Microsoft's dominance on the mainstream desktop,"
Lets rephrase... "Linux is the increasingly popular OS that is thought by some to have the potential to upset Microsoft's dominance on the mainstream desktop,"
Hmmm... see a trend. What a wonderful distortion of the facts.
The Gartner report only stated what was already known (at least by us) and is actively being worked on to improve.
Forgive me for any inclarity, this information is mostly just thought excercises to remedy boredom. 1.What do you mean by "linear" and "planar" here? Data these days is processed in a linear fashion. Instructions are streamed through the core and output is streamed back. I guess there are a few ways it could be done considering the ambiguity of my statement. A. xxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx Consider that a linear instruction to be processed linearly. xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx This could be a planar instruction to be carried out. Computations would be built around matrix comparisons, probably using the basic logic structures. Admittedly you could just as easily string the rows together to pull it back into linearity. It would be a problem though once spacial and rotational modifiers were included into the instruction set.
B. Another possibility would be to remove the nondimensionality of a binary computation. Expand the expected/accepted values from 0,1 to 0, 0.1, 0.2, 0.3, 0.4, 0.5, 0.6, 0.7, 0.8, 0.9, 1 or more. Each bit would now have a depth as opposed to an extreme. Yes, this gets into the realm of fuzzy lohgic, but Bart Kosko has pioneered the mathematics behind it. The expense of building multivalued logic gates on the other hand might be a bit expensive for a microprocessor. A light based computer would be perfect for this design.
C. I think there might be another, but it isn't coming to me right now.
2.What evidence do you have that Transmeta are, in fact, doing this? None whatsoever. I did title my comment "Lies, hoaxes, The Right Thing(tm)"
The way the chip is set up, you will be able to write current 32 bit code to work on it. You will pull a lot of developers in on that. Plus you have the great aspect of a slow migration path. Buy the 64 bit AMD chip keep your existing code. Use the 64 bit code as it becomes available. You don't have to start from scratch.
The K7 is a risc chip with a predecoder unit to break apart the intel instruction set, they are already faking it, what's so bad about faking it with a bigger hammer? All you need to do is keep the existing predecoder instructions add the ones for 64 bit and increase the pipelines and viola! You have a 64 bit chip based on a proven (or soon to be) design. They will probably add a unit in/near the predecoder to combine 32 bit segments for the 64 bit core.
Beyond that, its a great idea anyway. If done right, they will have a single chip that will compete with both intel's 64 bit and 32 bit (you don't think they are going to abandon destop users do you ?) offerings for many years to come. While intel works on two fronts AMD can focus on one. You didn't think they built the K7 architecture to only last for the next 1-2 years. Much of it will be around probably 4-5 years from now.
(BTW. I have seen no proof that the G4 is faster than the K7. They claim that it is ~3 times faster that the PIII in 7 of intels own tests. Look at the tests. They seem to be testing very specific aspects of the chips functionality. Wait for the real benchmarks to come out.)
We do not have a quantum computer beyond the most basic one shot experimental units.
The device spoken of is something I wondered about for a while. Why not just emulate the quantum process. Light can very easily be given smooth values between the 1 and 0 of binary logic. That alone will increase the power of the computing unit immensely. Imagine having the ability to represent a 32 bit color in just one bit. Or all the possible keys for a chipertext in one bit. Beyond building appropriate logic gates, the promary limiting factor will be the resolution a color will be able to be discriminated.
Thats just because we are still trying to to perform asymptotic installations. Have someone else who has knows how do it. Once you know enough install it for a friend.
They are keeping the meat to themselves. Accepting that current processor deal with linear data. The Transmeta processor will deal with it in a planar fashion. Most of the innovation will be in the manufacture of a chip that can support such an architecture. The speed difference will be comparable to the differene between a bubble jet printer and a laser printer.
It doesn't just apply to hackers. There is misinformation all around.
Usually the people who are looking to sources just want the spotlight and will say anyhting ot get it.
The best sources are usually too involved with their field to be noticed/bothered. They have to be tracked down through phone calls and friends of friends, etc. And with that, the person tracked down may not even want to talk. It can be easier to just settle with the first available.
Journalism, like society is getting lazy, and looking for the quick and easy. If there is someone standing at the front door when you leave to go looking then that person probably gets quoted. The ever increasing demands for more and faster of whatever helps drive this.
I think it has sonething to do with the fact that the K7 is a 32 bit chip (with a funky core), and the G4 seems to claim a 128 bit core (probably with all sort of instruction converters surrounding it too)
1. Its a plan to regulate the society. Adults can be far too stuck in their ways to change (like getting my father to use a computer). The children are much more inpressionable. Plus if they become used to such actions early in life they won't scream as loud (if at all) when the same things are imposed upon them as adults. They may even look at us funny while we kick and scream because to them it's the status quo.
2. Adults being stuck in their ways (read lazy) cannot adjust to a new youth societal paradigm and are pushing them into a mold because they do nto/can not want to try to understand/work with them.
Disclaimer: There are many who do want to work with the child to help. They are a dwindling few. Just look at the school I went to: From what I can tell the quality of education has gone down, and the teachers are threatening to strike because the aren't in the to 10% of school salaries in the area.
This is new because it is a badge, not a card. The students are forced to wear them at school.
This is not a new thing, but until now it has been primarily a government/dod/secure area thing.
It will not be long before readers will be placed at the doors that will scan you as you walk into the school and record the time entered/left, etc. PLace readers throughout the school and you can roughly track a students movements thorugh the school. (Watch the same group of students go to the boys room at the same time to catch a smoke, Track the movements of the "Trenchcoat Mafia(SM)" throughout the school, and harass them when their patterns don't fit their class schedules.)
Its only a matter of time.
What I wonder is how ling it will be before the students start printing their own barcodes to screw with the readers (if any yet)
If a violent lawsuit is immediately brought upon Corel without any other (documented) attempts to get them to change their agreement, it could scare off many other businesses thinking about using linux. That would not bode well for linux.
Ahhh, I guess I didn't specify my intended application. At the price the unit is supposed to be selling at, it comes close to the cost of the uclinux chip they plan on selling. Plus you get a built in lcd display. I was thinking more of abusing the pda as an extremely thin client for climate/audio/appliances/email/phone/etc controls in a house. Embed one in the wall of each room of the house, or use one with a hyped ir system. I have been looking at larget 486 platforms for the task, but at this cost/size it could certainly work as a development platform/prototype.
Either that or a flexible control platform for a robot.
I don't know what sizes other than 8 MB, but Sony has what seems like the same thing.
It's a flash ram memory unit that holds 8MB. It's currently in production as far as I know, because I have one (in my dog). It is about 2.5 cm by 1 cm by 3 mm. This size includes tha plastic case of the unit as well as the contacts and sliding switch to lock the memory. The unit as a whole seems pretty rugged and I wouldn't have any qualms with having a bunch in my pocket with my keys and pilot.
I would imagine they plan of making larger mem sizes.
I wish the Scientologists and Christians would duke it out. That would be some entertainment.
Christians will never let non-believers alone. Don't kid yourselves.
What blows my mind, is that the Creationists just don't get it. If there was noone there to witness the first days, who's to say how long a day was? (especially before there was the sun, considering that a day was recognized as a light/dark cycle)
Evolution and Creationism can coexist. Think about the order of events in the book of Genesis. Formation of masses in the universe, critical mass of a star, basic organisms followed by more advanced organisms (from the sea to the land too!) the man...
Ok, what part of that doesn't follow evolution? The only thing that doesn't match is the time period, and as I stated above, who's to say how long a day was. Consider this. When the book of Genesis was written, what was the largest number they peoples were aware of? What sounds better 6 days or 60,000 years (I doubt they were aware of a number that high, and definitely not able to comprehend a number that high, much less a few million/billion) remember this was pre roman numeral. The arabic system we use didn't even exist then. (The 6 days were probably originally designated as 6 cycles/seasons/events etc...)
Well that's my two bits. I still want to see the Scientologists v. Christians fight. That would be historic.
Well, they've had holographic memory out for a while now, but it has high seek times. The data throughput is impressive though. (page at a time read/write). The only commercial use I have heard of was fingerprint id machines. The potential for storage in a small space was great tho.
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They only touch on the report in 1/5th of the article. The rest being other sources. Here are the choice quotes they chose to use:
"We believe Linux deployments for desktops will not usurp OS dominance from Microsoft."
Hmmm.... that seems to mean linux will not get more than 50% of the desktop os market. Makes sense to me. Look at the number of AOL users out there.
"Linux will continue to appeal to its devotees and, as it improves over time, to broader audiences,"
That doesn't seem like a slam. It sounds more like a observation of good things to come.
"Linux is the 'hype du jour' that is thought by some to have the potential to upset Microsoft's dominance on the mainstream desktop,"
Lets rephrase... "Linux is the increasingly popular OS that is thought by some to have the potential to upset Microsoft's dominance on the mainstream desktop,"
Hmmm... see a trend. What a wonderful distortion of the facts.
The Gartner report only stated what was already known (at least by us) and is actively being worked on to improve.
Wouldn't you notice the stitches on the back of your head? No to mention the pounding headache.
Do you care how well it works & does java applet based systems count?
Data these days is processed in a linear fashion. Instructions are streamed through the core and output is streamed back. I guess there are a few ways it could be done considering the ambiguity of my statement.
A.
xxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx Consider that a linear instruction to be processed linearly.
xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx This could be a planar instruction to be carried out. Computations would be built around matrix comparisons, probably using the basic logic structures.
Admittedly you could just as easily string the rows together to pull it back into linearity. It would be a problem though once spacial and rotational modifiers were included into the instruction set.
B.
Another possibility would be to remove the nondimensionality of a binary computation.
Expand the expected/accepted values from 0,1 to 0, 0.1, 0.2, 0.3, 0.4, 0.5, 0.6, 0.7, 0.8, 0.9, 1 or more. Each bit would now have a depth as opposed to an extreme. Yes, this gets into the realm of fuzzy lohgic, but Bart Kosko has pioneered the mathematics behind it. The expense of building multivalued logic gates on the other hand might be a bit expensive for a microprocessor. A light based computer would be perfect for this design.
C.
I think there might be another, but it isn't coming to me right now.
2.What evidence do you have that Transmeta are, in fact, doing this?
None whatsoever. I did title my comment "Lies, hoaxes, The Right Thing(tm)"
The way the chip is set up, you will be able to write current 32 bit code to work on it. You will pull a lot of developers in on that. Plus you have the great aspect of a slow migration path. Buy the 64 bit AMD chip keep your existing code. Use the 64 bit code as it becomes available. You don't have to start from scratch.
All you need to do is keep the existing predecoder instructions add the ones for 64 bit and increase the pipelines and viola! You have a 64 bit chip based on a proven (or soon to be) design. They will probably add a unit in/near the predecoder to combine 32 bit segments for the 64 bit core.
Beyond that, its a great idea anyway. If done right, they will have a single chip that will compete with both intel's 64 bit and 32 bit (you don't think they are going to abandon destop users do you ?) offerings for many years to come. While intel works on two fronts AMD can focus on one. You didn't think they built the K7 architecture to only last for the next 1-2 years. Much of it will be around probably 4-5 years from now.
(BTW. I have seen no proof that the G4 is faster than the K7. They claim that it is ~3 times faster that the PIII in 7 of intels own tests. Look at the tests. They seem to be testing very specific aspects of the chips functionality. Wait for the real benchmarks to come out.)
The device spoken of is something I wondered about for a while. Why not just emulate the quantum process. Light can very easily be given smooth values between the 1 and 0 of binary logic. That alone will increase the power of the computing unit immensely. Imagine having the ability to represent a 32 bit color in just one bit. Or all the possible keys for a chipertext in one bit. Beyond building appropriate logic gates, the promary limiting factor will be the resolution a color will be able to be discriminated.
Thats just because we are still trying to to perform asymptotic installations. Have someone else who has knows how do it. Once you know enough install it for a friend.
They are keeping the meat to themselves.
Accepting that current processor deal with linear data. The Transmeta processor will deal with it in a planar fashion. Most of the innovation will be in the manufacture of a chip that can support such an architecture. The speed difference will be comparable to the differene between a bubble jet printer and a laser printer.
Usually the people who are looking to sources just want the spotlight and will say anyhting ot get it.
The best sources are usually too involved with their field to be noticed/bothered. They have to be tracked down through phone calls and friends of friends, etc. And with that, the person tracked down may not even want to talk. It can be easier to just settle with the first available.
Journalism, like society is getting lazy, and looking for the quick and easy. If there is someone standing at the front door when you leave to go looking then that person probably gets quoted. The ever increasing demands for more and faster of whatever helps drive this.
I think it has sonething to do with the fact that the K7 is a 32 bit chip (with a funky core), and the G4 seems to claim a 128 bit core (probably with all sort of instruction converters surrounding it too)
1. Its a plan to regulate the society. Adults can be far too stuck in their ways to change (like getting my father to use a computer). The children are much more inpressionable. Plus if they become used to such actions early in life they won't scream as loud (if at all) when the same things are imposed upon them as adults. They may even look at us funny while we kick and scream because to them it's the status quo.
2. Adults being stuck in their ways (read lazy) cannot adjust to a new youth societal paradigm and are pushing them into a mold because they do nto/can not want to try to understand/work with them.
Disclaimer: There are many who do want to work with the child to help. They are a dwindling few. Just look at the school I went to: From what I can tell the quality of education has gone down, and the teachers are threatening to strike because the aren't in the to 10% of school salaries in the area.
This is not a new thing, but until now it has been primarily a government/dod/secure area thing.
It will not be long before readers will be placed at the doors that will scan you as you walk into the school and record the time entered/left, etc. PLace readers throughout the school and you can roughly track a students movements thorugh the school. (Watch the same group of students go to the boys room at the same time to catch a smoke, Track the movements of the "Trenchcoat Mafia(SM)" throughout the school, and harass them when their patterns don't fit their class schedules.)
Its only a matter of time.
What I wonder is how ling it will be before the students start printing their own barcodes to screw with the readers (if any yet)
" I mean, MARS. You know, the planet that is most likely to sustain life?" I always thought earth was the most likely to sustain life.
If a violent lawsuit is immediately brought upon Corel without any other (documented) attempts to get them to change their agreement, it could scare off many other businesses thinking about using linux. That would not bode well for linux.
"grep, cat and diff" Did you really have to teach him how to do it?
I have a "Virtual Assholeprinting System" and John keeps on showing up in it.
Either that or a flexible control platform for a robot.
Would a variant of the pcmcia handler work for the springboard modules?
I wonder if a click drive (or bigger) will be available as a springboard module.
I think I might wanna get on of these.
Good, that should mean that all of the necessary components to manufacture cement are available in space.
It's a flash ram memory unit that holds 8MB. It's currently in production as far as I know, because I have one (in my dog).
It is about 2.5 cm by 1 cm by 3 mm. This size includes tha plastic case of the unit as well as the contacts and sliding switch to lock the memory. The unit as a whole seems pretty rugged and I wouldn't have any qualms with having a bunch in my pocket with my keys and pilot.
I would imagine they plan of making larger mem sizes.
Christians will never let non-believers alone. Don't kid yourselves.
What blows my mind, is that the Creationists just don't get it. If there was noone there to witness the first days, who's to say how long a day was? (especially before there was the sun, considering that a day was recognized as a light/dark cycle)
Evolution and Creationism can coexist. Think about the order of events in the book of Genesis. Formation of masses in the universe, critical mass of a star, basic organisms followed by more advanced organisms (from the sea to the land too!) the man...
Ok, what part of that doesn't follow evolution? The only thing that doesn't match is the time period, and as I stated above, who's to say how long a day was. Consider this. When the book of Genesis was written, what was the largest number they peoples were aware of? What sounds better 6 days or 60,000 years (I doubt they were aware of a number that high, and definitely not able to comprehend a number that high, much less a few million/billion) remember this was pre roman numeral. The arabic system we use didn't even exist then. (The 6 days were probably originally designated as 6 cycles/seasons/events etc...)
Well that's my two bits. I still want to see the Scientologists v. Christians fight. That would be historic.
P.S. don't fsck it up.
all dressed up and no place to go?
Well, they've had holographic memory out for a while now, but it has high seek times. The data throughput is impressive though. (page at a time read/write). The only commercial use I have heard of was fingerprint id machines. The potential for storage in a small space was great tho.