Indeed, I applied for a job there a couple of years ago because they use WebObjects - Apple's web app framework.
Where did the Perl reference come from ?
OK - so you're a customer, then what qualifies you to identify your suppliers as "Java Priests" ? personally they sound behind the curve.
Client side executables in multi-tier apps were dead when I started work 9 years ago, and they have no place in my java religion.
In fact Swing is largely irrelevant (only 10% of java jobs require swing knowledge) in the Java world today -except- and here's the kicker for you - in the banking sector *LOL*, which seems slow to keep with other IT sectors.
For example have a look on jobserve.com which places over 80% of IT jobs in the UK (it was a profitable dot.com even before 2k) Note that a search for (java AND j2ee) AND NOT (swing) turns up 939 results vs 131 for (java and swing)
I agree that there are still plenty of horrible swing app interfaces out there (Oracle 9i installer, SunOne app-server admin app, WAS 4 app-server admin app, etc...) but the message seems to be getting through. I mean WebLogic has been leading the way since forever, and IBM's WAS 5 admin application is now web-based.
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The BBC website is all webobjects
Indeed, I applied for a job there a couple of years ago because they use WebObjects - Apple's web app framework. Where did the Perl reference come from ?
OK - so you're a customer, then what qualifies you to identify your suppliers as "Java Priests" ? personally they sound behind the curve.
Client side executables in multi-tier apps were dead when I started work 9 years ago, and they have no place in my java religion.
In fact Swing is largely irrelevant (only 10% of java jobs require swing knowledge) in the Java world today -except- and here's the kicker for you - in the banking sector *LOL*, which seems slow to keep with other IT sectors.
For example have a look on jobserve.com which places over 80% of IT jobs in the UK (it was a profitable dot.com even before 2k) Note that a search for (java AND j2ee) AND NOT (swing) turns up 939 results vs 131 for (java and swing)
I agree that there are still plenty of horrible swing app interfaces out there (Oracle 9i installer, SunOne app-server admin app, WAS 4 app-server admin app, etc...) but the message seems to be getting through. I mean WebLogic has been leading the way since forever, and IBM's WAS 5 admin application is now web-based.
can be done with a bit of thinking in plain HTML
Sounds like your problem is your architecture. Why the h#ll did you go with a client heavy app instead of a struts server side app ?
BTW - DB-P00 SUCKS ! What kind of RDBMS deadlocks on inserts ! ? escalating table locks my #ss