And so here we have the perfect example of how the gov'ts idiocy campaign works.
Gosh darn it, i know he f@cks! up all the time, but i can't help feeling his heart is in the right place. Let's re-elect him!
It's simple psychology (discovered in the US no less) and yet everybody seems to still fall for it.
Things would be different if people didn't wear glasses, but then again, try and convince everybody who wears them that they're not needed and you're fighting an uphill battle.
Remember the american way. Cover up the problem and when we can't see the problem, then we don't worry about it anymore.
Sigh, Can't you just wait for those days to happen?
I can't wait. The way americans live is not sustainable, economically, environmentally, socially, any which way you look at it.
The faster it collapses the faster it'll reduce it's influence on other countries to follow it's lead.
Unfortunately, it's the american gov't, and that means the usual solution which is choose another country to have a war against. Sad times ahead, but always the possibility that we'll come out so much better:)
The states is a little idiotic in their thinking. Each time they create one of their wars against drugs/violence/terrorism/war, they are in fact CREATING that war.
What puzzles me is why the american public is so asleep to what's happening. They've been so thoroughly convinced that THEY have no input, no effect that they have been enslaved without any physical means.
I live in vancouver, one of the pot capitals of canada. We see the same behaviour here. For some reason we've been compelled by the states to continue their war on drugs in our own country. So what happens is that we spend most of our law enforcement money on cracking down on grow ops. All this man power and tax money devoted to shutting down a few grow ops, with virtually no effect on the market and nobody goes to jail.
These WARS are useless because like most western things, they only look at the outside, try and cover up the symptom without having a clue as to what the real problem is. Cosmetics is the biggest industry that the west has put out, it defines their whole way of looking at things.
So unfortunately, if this passes, we'll see a pre-emptive nuclear strike in the future, because that's what it is calling into reality. It's a small step from possible to probable.
Don't turn this into an us and them thing with your stupid meaningless political characterizations.
It was done in this way because they know they can. The US gov't has been f@cking it's citizens left right and center and they know that as long as it looks like the idiots were trying to do something with good intentions then they get off the hook. Their key is to look like absolute idiots, and people believe it.
Just remember, it's hard to control global variables and be idiots.
umm, so iraq violated the terms by shooting at american planes in violation of the terms. Doesn't that mean we should kill the americans? Well, just the USA ones:)
How true. I mean, i wouldn't mind it if i just had to type 'emerge', but they want me to add another word after that???? What are these people thinking!?!?!
Unfortunately, all paths do lead to enlightenment, even those that take advantage of other people. God/creator/Bob is all things, love of others as well as love of self.
Love of self is just a more lonely road and more destructive, but eventually it'll get to the same place, it is after all, still learning about love and how to express it, even if it means killing other people to fulfill it.
Wish it weren't so, but that's the way it is.
Sometimes i love christians for their faith, other times i can't believe how stupid and unthinking they can be. Then again, unquestioning devotion is a path frequently used in india, china, japan,etc... Unfortunately, it only really works when the person you are devoted to is already enlightened or a master (archery, carpentry, etc...). When we give ourselves unto someone we start to become like them. Not much people i'd like to become around here though!
Science tries to be all grand and all encompassing and blah blah blah. But anything that comes down to individual people is always going to come down to the individual person.
Science cannot accurately study the subjective reality that we all live in. Is there anything more worthwhile to study? Spirituality (definitely NOT organized religion) has made some inroads into this. The one thing we do know is that tech and science don't buy happiness, so what does? Is it possible for 'regular' people to free themselves from suffering without all the claptrap of religion? I'm talking about true freedom, not hiding from the rain like the christians, or hiding in caves like ascetics. Avoiding problems (which science and western civ are big on) is not the answer, so how do we eliminate the problems?
These are the most important questions we should be focusing on, after all, if we deny our humanity then what are we? We could just replace everybody with robots and there'd be no difference.
If you think these are stupid and pointless questions i would not like to be your coworker, your son, your daughter, your mother or father, your wife or husband or anybody that has to come into contact with you because you are no longer human, you're just a mindless drone in the machine.
At the same time, i do think that science could make great inroads into these areas IF things were examined in the proper way. However, the final puzzle piece is always contained within the subjective reality of the individual, and science deals with objective reality.
I didn't say people go in to science to get rich. But they will go after the money. I've worked in plenty of labs that a lot of their research is solely to get funding. They don't even care about it or what the results are. I've also seen people leave from doing good drug research to shoddy research for tobacco companies because of 10x the amount of money.
Status quo is status quo, figure it out. EVERYONE has a stake in keeping the status quo. Can you believe what would happen if say 90% of the population found out that their jobs really are totally meaningless and unnecessary? That it wasn't necessary to suffer? (both science and mainstream religion are big on suffering).
Read again, i'm not suggesting a conspiracy theory, it's just what is. Why the hell are people always so big on science and then start infering things without any basis. Stop trying to read between the lines when there isn't anything there!
YOu don't even have to look that far. Most people consider their children as their property and not seperate entities and use them for labour and such.
Then there is of course most of the population enslaved to jobs that for the most part have nothing to do with acquiring the essentials of survival, but more to do with just maintaining the machine.
Seriously, everybody is important, where would we be without those telephone cleaners?
I believe what they have is a sort of introduction, and they point to where the evidence is. It's like asking an introduction to mathematics to have all the proof in that book.
I'm not saying i believe it, just that your contraty argument is hogwash.
People really should read things like 'logical reasoning' by dowdey i believe, or downey. Something like that, doesn't really matter who wrote it, someone would eventually anyways:)
The devil, is as they say, in the details. Americans can appeal to diffusion of responsability, but when you check the details, they are the only ones responsable for their deplorable behaviour.
haha, and the fact that 'gravity' changes depending on scale.
Hey, if gravity and inertia are exactly the same force why do we call them different things?
It's called money. Greedy people go where the money is. Conventional views of space are upheld by the government and government funding (in north america). Other countries, through science, have widely differing views. Only americans seem to think it's 'the god's truth'. Then again, they tend to swallow stuff that's pumped through them in school, media, etc...
It's also called religion. I think americans tend to forget because they're so full of themselves and their veiw of the world. It's mainly americans and those indocrinated by americans that believe the bible is literal truth.
Haha, then again, if they didnt' do that then they wouldn't be able to constantly argue with all the people who believe in science but don't know what the hell science is about:)
I'm always amazed by how many different ways americans have been able to find to seperate themselves from those around them, and so polarized too!! I just love the left/right political stuff where if left right were a scale from 1 to 100 the left and right of america would probably be about 97 and 98:) And yet, they still fight like mad, seemingly dumping their brains in the dustbin and arguing about apostrophes or some other such nonsense.:)
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Why pass up a good opportunity i guess.
The problem with americans is that they're like everybody else, they can't see what their problem is!!!
Gosh darn it, i know he f@cks! up all the time, but i can't help feeling his heart is in the right place. Let's re-elect him!
It's simple psychology (discovered in the US no less) and yet everybody seems to still fall for it.
Things would be different if people didn't wear glasses, but then again, try and convince everybody who wears them that they're not needed and you're fighting an uphill battle.
Remember the american way. Cover up the problem and when we can't see the problem, then we don't worry about it anymore.
I can't wait. The way americans live is not sustainable, economically, environmentally, socially, any which way you look at it.
The faster it collapses the faster it'll reduce it's influence on other countries to follow it's lead.
Unfortunately, it's the american gov't, and that means the usual solution which is choose another country to have a war against. Sad times ahead, but always the possibility that we'll come out so much better :)
The states is a little idiotic in their thinking. Each time they create one of their wars against drugs/violence/terrorism/war, they are in fact CREATING that war.
What puzzles me is why the american public is so asleep to what's happening. They've been so thoroughly convinced that THEY have no input, no effect that they have been enslaved without any physical means.
I live in vancouver, one of the pot capitals of canada. We see the same behaviour here. For some reason we've been compelled by the states to continue their war on drugs in our own country. So what happens is that we spend most of our law enforcement money on cracking down on grow ops. All this man power and tax money devoted to shutting down a few grow ops, with virtually no effect on the market and nobody goes to jail.
These WARS are useless because like most western things, they only look at the outside, try and cover up the symptom without having a clue as to what the real problem is. Cosmetics is the biggest industry that the west has put out, it defines their whole way of looking at things.
So unfortunately, if this passes, we'll see a pre-emptive nuclear strike in the future, because that's what it is calling into reality. It's a small step from possible to probable.
It was done in this way because they know they can. The US gov't has been f@cking it's citizens left right and center and they know that as long as it looks like the idiots were trying to do something with good intentions then they get off the hook. Their key is to look like absolute idiots, and people believe it.
Just remember, it's hard to control global variables and be idiots.
umm, so iraq violated the terms by shooting at american planes in violation of the terms. Doesn't that mean we should kill the americans? Well, just the USA ones :)
How true. I mean, i wouldn't mind it if i just had to type 'emerge', but they want me to add another word after that???? What are these people thinking!?!?!
Ah, the things i do to try and make a stupid useless point. :)
You're right, you fucking alcoholic, illiterate, good for nothing drain on the economy dipshit.
Love of self is just a more lonely road and more destructive, but eventually it'll get to the same place, it is after all, still learning about love and how to express it, even if it means killing other people to fulfill it.
Wish it weren't so, but that's the way it is.
Sometimes i love christians for their faith, other times i can't believe how stupid and unthinking they can be. Then again, unquestioning devotion is a path frequently used in india, china, japan,etc... Unfortunately, it only really works when the person you are devoted to is already enlightened or a master (archery, carpentry, etc...). When we give ourselves unto someone we start to become like them. Not much people i'd like to become around here though!
Science tries to be all grand and all encompassing and blah blah blah. But anything that comes down to individual people is always going to come down to the individual person.
Science cannot accurately study the subjective reality that we all live in. Is there anything more worthwhile to study? Spirituality (definitely NOT organized religion) has made some inroads into this. The one thing we do know is that tech and science don't buy happiness, so what does? Is it possible for 'regular' people to free themselves from suffering without all the claptrap of religion? I'm talking about true freedom, not hiding from the rain like the christians, or hiding in caves like ascetics. Avoiding problems (which science and western civ are big on) is not the answer, so how do we eliminate the problems?
These are the most important questions we should be focusing on, after all, if we deny our humanity then what are we? We could just replace everybody with robots and there'd be no difference.
If you think these are stupid and pointless questions i would not like to be your coworker, your son, your daughter, your mother or father, your wife or husband or anybody that has to come into contact with you because you are no longer human, you're just a mindless drone in the machine.
At the same time, i do think that science could make great inroads into these areas IF things were examined in the proper way. However, the final puzzle piece is always contained within the subjective reality of the individual, and science deals with objective reality.
Status quo is status quo, figure it out. EVERYONE has a stake in keeping the status quo. Can you believe what would happen if say 90% of the population found out that their jobs really are totally meaningless and unnecessary? That it wasn't necessary to suffer? (both science and mainstream religion are big on suffering).
Read again, i'm not suggesting a conspiracy theory, it's just what is. Why the hell are people always so big on science and then start infering things without any basis. Stop trying to read between the lines when there isn't anything there!
Then there is of course most of the population enslaved to jobs that for the most part have nothing to do with acquiring the essentials of survival, but more to do with just maintaining the machine.
Seriously, everybody is important, where would we be without those telephone cleaners?
I'm not saying i believe it, just that your contraty argument is hogwash.
People really should read things like 'logical reasoning' by dowdey i believe, or downey. Something like that, doesn't really matter who wrote it, someone would eventually anyways :)
haha, you're dumb :) We're both arguing the same point.
Crap man, we've known columbus was wrong for how many centuries?
The devil, is as they say, in the details. Americans can appeal to diffusion of responsability, but when you check the details, they are the only ones responsable for their deplorable behaviour.
So even though it was 'europeans' who brought them over, it was americans who decided to keep them and treat them like shit.
and here i thought it was just based on how malicious we were feeling!
Whose the crack pot who modded this insightful when there is absolutely no insight as to how it's incorrect. This is just baseless opinion.
haha, and the fact that 'gravity' changes depending on scale. Hey, if gravity and inertia are exactly the same force why do we call them different things?
It's called money. Greedy people go where the money is. Conventional views of space are upheld by the government and government funding (in north america). Other countries, through science, have widely differing views. Only americans seem to think it's 'the god's truth'. Then again, they tend to swallow stuff that's pumped through them in school, media, etc...
SEriously, exchange God for blackhole, and it's basically the same thing.
They both have equations that work out, big deal. Occam's razor i guess, but then what would all those astrophysicistsistsits (sp?) do?
I"m happy just believing it's a rotating dome over the sky with little holes poked through it, and we're just some god's lab experiment :)
Haha, then again, if they didnt' do that then they wouldn't be able to constantly argue with all the people who believe in science but don't know what the hell science is about :)
I'm always amazed by how many different ways americans have been able to find to seperate themselves from those around them, and so polarized too!! I just love the left/right political stuff where if left right were a scale from 1 to 100 the left and right of america would probably be about 97 and 98 :) And yet, they still fight like mad, seemingly dumping their brains in the dustbin and arguing about apostrophes or some other such nonsense. :)