It's a fascinating thing to see, the "you guys did it - or something superficially like it - so it's OK for my guys to do it" reaction.
Exactly! This is one of the big reasons nothing ever gets fixed in government. It happens on both sides of the aisle. If one side gets caught doing something, they immediately point out how the other side did it at one point too.
How about this? How about every time a law is broken, we treat it as an individual event. Kind of how it happens for us little people. If I get caught speeding, and say, but other people do it too... the cop will acknowledge the point and give me my ticket!
"There was a magic about the early 8-bit micros that captured the imagination"
Simplicity. My first real computer was a TI 99-4/A. Built in BASIC. But the beauty of it was it was so new that anything you did, that worked, was almost as good as the stuff being sold shrinkwrap. It felt like, and was pretty much true, that if you spent the time, you could make something that would have an impact.
I'd dial in to a bbs, and download stuff that was as good as what I could buy in the computer shop.
Those were the days!
And my observation is that the global climate is not a static system.
It was much warmer in medieval times, was it the cars they drove?
Now, if you reject the observation about the climate being a dynamic system, and global warming is happening... quit crying and buckle up. Changing the climate is something like steering an aircraft carrier. If you notice it's changing, it's already too late.
"Realistically, the reason is the almighty dollar. "
Without question. Just imagine. I'm a kid trying to figure out what to do for a career. I see that engineering and science related jobs are being farmed out to China and India.
Jobs that are likely to stay here: Law related. Medical related. Sales and marketing. Trades. I'd pick one of those. Not to mention, except for M.D., most of those other jobs are easier courses of study.
I didn't point by point reply because I realize I'm dealing with an immature elitist. Even if I did... would it matter to you, you've already told me you think I'm pig ignorant. And I've decided you are a spineless wanker.
But, in case any one comes across this... the Clintons lost money one whitewater, but there were enough irregularities to make a soap opera plot. Susan McDougal went to jail because she refused to testify against the Clintons. You don't find that odd? A fraudlent federal loan, billing records from RodhamClinton's law office that disappeared and magically reappeared. I think there's enough there that would have put joe sixpack away for a long time. Sure she was cleared of that, and of travelgate.
And OJ was acquitted, and so was Micheal Jackson. And so was Richard Scrushy, (Healthsouth). And so was Ted Kennedy. Money is what makes this country and the world go around.
If repeating or using language devices such as "old saws" makes you an idiot, then I'll go with that, along with most other people in the country. Geez what a picky, stupid thing to get seize upon. The mark of someone who's reaching.
I never said I agreed with the ruling in Bush v. Gore. You assume again, you moron. Do all your elected officials, or all leftist judges do exactly as you'd have them do?
You switch places, can't you keep it straight? First you complain of Gitmo, then you bring up Abu Ghraib. It's a good thing losers like you have people like me to protect you. The Red Cross is not the ultimate authority. And the "torture" that was dished out, how does that compare to decapitation and car bombing women and children? Again, misplaced priorities. You get your talking points straight from MoveOn.org. You need to branch out and get some more information.
Finally, I did my time in the miliary, not that I intended to play that card, but you called me on it. And you? You probably still wet the bed.
Bah. Go away, I tire of your meaningless prattle.
We detain "brown people", be specific... Arab muslims because we are at war. You are a spineless coward, and fortunately, you and your ilk are left to impotently railling on the internet, snobbishly telling others how superior they are from mommie's basement.
It's with great pleasure that I inform you that George Bush is indeed your president. And that another conservative will be installed on the supreme court. I also would like to let you know, that it is people like me, who make decisions for people like you.
I know, you'll say: bad descisions. Fine. Don't like it? Shower up, pack your things, and go to Canada. Otherwise, keep living with the decisions we pig-ignorant people make for you.
You slobbering wanker.
Right, the person retiring was not in favor of Kelo. Nor am I. Nor were the conservative judges. It was the left that were in favor of this decision: John Paul Stevens, Anthony Kennedy, David H. Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen G. Breyer.
I'm not even sure what you've got your pants in a twist about? Just looking for a right winger to take a swing at?
What a pointless reply.
I see it as hand wringing. Taking a point, a move, a shift, and extending it as far as you can in a negative direction, in order to get your way. I fall right of center. I admit it, I'm ok with it. Withholding birth control is over the top for me. Most of my "right wing" buddies, (which includes some Catholics), would feel the same way.
You have a lot of factors in play here. Vast public opinion, free market forces, over stepping of bounderies... I feel safe in concluding that would never happen. In fact, I'm betting my kid's America on it.
Feel free to go back to hand wringing though.
You assume too much, which I find to be a failing of the leftist/elitists.
I am apalled at all sports franchises augmenting their earnings at the general public's expense. What Bush was involved in does irritate me, along with his refusal to secure the southern border, and his refusal to address offshoring our manufacturing base to a communist country.
Unlike a reflexive leftist Bush basher, I can see the good he's done too. The war on terror is good, I know that can be debated, but I'm on board with it. I do think the country needs a little more conservative balance. So, a conservative judge works for me.
Either party is filled with people that are detestable, despicable, and don't care about us. Do you think Ted Kennedy is a good guy? Did Hillary Clinton have a hand in travelgate, or make any money on cattle futures or whitewater?
Judicial activism is not code. It's how you see things. Leftist judges often refer to the Constitution as a living document, meant to be interpreted as they see fit, in a given context. Most on the right don't see it that way. That is the real difference.
As for my source of information... again, you assume, and you know what happens when you assume. Yes, I watch Fox. I also watch MSNBC, and occassionally CNN. I read Drudge, and FreeRepublic and DU, and slashdot, and CNN online, and follow links to NYT, Washinton Post, Akron Beacon Journal, etc.
Oh, I forgot, the liberal elitist in you assumes I am a knuckle dragger who can barely read, watches Fox and regurgitates everything they tell me.
Ok, one of two things here, I'm not quite sure where you were going.
Women were able to purchase birth control?!
Is abortion birth control to you? If it is, we diverge here in a huge way. Abortion is not trivial in my belief system. It's not like buying contraceptive pills, or condoms, etc.
If you don't see abortion as contraceptive, and you were jumping to hyperbole right away... well, that's the kind of thing that leads those of us with a stronger constitution to take hand wringers lightly.
#1 - A hot button, but I'm ok with it.
#2 - Not a big deal to me. Much to do about nothing.
#3 - Oh right, that Gulag, the Killing Fields of Cuba. Please. What do you do with captured enemy combatants in wartime.
The hawks are keeping you hand wringers safe. Maybe one day you'll be able to understand what was done for you. If they aren't successful, you and your grandchildren will have plenty of time to think of what could have been when you are praying 5 times a day while facing Mecca.
Ok, so let me make sure I understand what you're saying:
Leftist judges are not activists, it is the right who tries to rewrite laws from the bench?
So, the Kelo case is upholding the constitution?
And... it's all BUSH'S fault. It's always Bush's fault. The left has been crying for 5 freakin' years. Guess what, if the left was a bit more motivated, you could have Kerry in there selling shit to China like Clinton did, and you'd be happy.
The leftist navel gazing of this site is getting to be a bit much. The parent is a legitmate, thoughtful comment. If I had any points I'd give them to that comment.
I'd write it off as a bunch of nose picking, spoiled kids, but they are kids with jobs and votes. What will you kids fight for? Do you have the will to do anything but complain?
Get out of your mother's basement, and you'll begin to realize, there are things that are more important than what you downloaded from bittorrent or what CPU Apple is using this time around.
The parent was thoughtful... THIS is flamebait.
Unfortunatly, reason in the politcal arena gets you nothing here. The parent, which truly is Bush bashing non sensical drivel, is at a 3, and will be modded up because it's a bash. Your comment is 1 and will go no higher. If I hadn't commented already, I'd mod you up!:)
I don't care how independents feel. I'm sick and tired of worrying about each little fraction of the population. Majority rule is not mob rule. Majority opinion is not a bad thing. I know elitist liberals figure the majority is stupid, and they are the only smart ones. Well, I'm part of the majority, and I disagree. It's time we quit going with minority rule.
Did I hear you wimper?:)
Yep, everything is Bush's fault. He's trashing the place.
But, for your own good, he's going to pick someone who will interpret the constitution, not try to rewrite it.
As with all kids, one day when you're old enough, you'll see the wisdom and thank president Bush. Or not. Either way, works for me.
Ok, here goes some karma, since I know most of the folks here tend to be on the left side of the asile...
I don't think Bush can mess up the SCOTUS any more than it is already. Please don't forget that it was the left leaning justices who gave your local officials the right to take your property if they deem it to be in the public interest. And I believe most local public officals can be easily purchased by a WalMart looking for a new home.
Nice job SCOTUS.
Ah yes, I wish we had the simpler moral times, like when there was slavery, or when we could enjoy the charity of the robber barons, or when the industrialists exploited city labor, or the times of the Savings & Loan collapse. Every generation has its share of greedy snakes.
Great philosophy: "People have always screwed each other, so why expect more? Why aspire to be better?"
It's called competition, if somebody came along and offered you the same job but at 20% higher pay you'd take it. There is no loyalty from the employees or the business. Jobs move, jobs get eliminated, the world changes; adapt.
Actually, there's more to it than pay. I can honestly say that I wouldn't jump unconditionally for 20%, or even 30%. To me, there are issues such as quality of life, and yes, loyalty.
Go ahead, support offshore outsourcing. Support the move of manufacturing capacity to communist China. Think of nothing but yourself. At some point, there will be a heavy price to pay for that behavior, either by you or your kids. But, given that you care only about you, what your kids pay isn't an issue, now is it?
We have raised a generation of people who are morally bankrupt. Their focus is what they will make today, this week, this quarter. There is no thought of long term profits, or any concern for their neighbors. As long as their portfolio grows today, that's all they care about.
Enron, Tyco, Global Crossing... all about greed. Screw anyone to make a few bucks. No concern about what's right.
I read the freerepublic, (I know, that won't win me points here), and I see those kinds of people all the time. It's mind boggling, but they just don't care about anyone, or anything but themselves. Ask them what they'll do when they can't sell stuff to out of work Americans and they'll tell you, without shame, that someone, somewhere will be working, they'll sell to them!
Pathetic.
There have been 2 schools of thought as to why Macs didn't have the problems that PC users did in terms of virii.
#1 - Mac OS is superior, with fewer security holes.
#2 - Market share is what saved Macs. Virus writers didn't bother because the Mac hardware was relatively rare.
If #1 is the case, Macs will continue to be relatively trouble free.
If #2 is the case, then virii will be "ported". OS differences exist, but the underlying architecture now will be the same. If you know how to write an assembly language program to wipe out a PC, you will now know how to write an assembly language program to wipe out a Mac.
At no point did I indicate that Windows virii would infect the new Intel Macs.
Clearly you have no idea how to properly flame someone. Think before you flame.
"On the other hand, I did get a nice refresher on the process. You do forget a few things in 20 years. And I can use the site as a resource for my kids, since they'll be too busy being taught "Intelligent Design" to be bothered with anything as mundane as chemistry and physics."
I find it interesting how liberal points of view automatically elevate a comment, even when it's lacking much in the way of substance. And, at then end, when you digress and take a very weak swipe at intelligent design, you aren't seen as offtopic.
I don't take offense. I don't have emotional investment in this. Just observing how the moderators tend to work here.
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Nope, faraday cage is for RF.
They use iron plates to shield magnets.
The iron provides a path of least resistance and concentrates the flux.
The bird thing is silly.
It's a fascinating thing to see, the "you guys did it - or something superficially like it - so it's OK for my guys to do it" reaction.
Exactly! This is one of the big reasons nothing ever gets fixed in government. It happens on both sides of the aisle. If one side gets caught doing something, they immediately point out how the other side did it at one point too.
How about this? How about every time a law is broken, we treat it as an individual event. Kind of how it happens for us little people. If I get caught speeding, and say, but other people do it too... the cop will acknowledge the point and give me my ticket!
"There was a magic about the early 8-bit micros that captured the imagination"
Simplicity. My first real computer was a TI 99-4/A. Built in BASIC. But the beauty of it was it was so new that anything you did, that worked, was almost as good as the stuff being sold shrinkwrap. It felt like, and was pretty much true, that if you spent the time, you could make something that would have an impact.
I'd dial in to a bbs, and download stuff that was as good as what I could buy in the computer shop.
Those were the days!
And my observation is that the global climate is not a static system. It was much warmer in medieval times, was it the cars they drove? Now, if you reject the observation about the climate being a dynamic system, and global warming is happening... quit crying and buckle up. Changing the climate is something like steering an aircraft carrier. If you notice it's changing, it's already too late.
"Realistically, the reason is the almighty dollar. "
Without question. Just imagine. I'm a kid trying to figure out what to do for a career. I see that engineering and science related jobs are being farmed out to China and India.
Jobs that are likely to stay here: Law related. Medical related. Sales and marketing. Trades.
I'd pick one of those. Not to mention, except for M.D., most of those other jobs are easier courses of study.
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:)
-Voted for Bush twice
Hmmmm... a correlation?
If I had mod points, I'd mod you up.
"P.s. I am NOT a crackpot." Yes you are.
I didn't point by point reply because I realize I'm dealing with an immature elitist. Even if I did... would it matter to you, you've already told me you think I'm pig ignorant. And I've decided you are a spineless wanker.
But, in case any one comes across this... the Clintons lost money one whitewater, but there were enough irregularities to make a soap opera plot. Susan McDougal went to jail because she refused to testify against the Clintons. You don't find that odd? A fraudlent federal loan, billing records from RodhamClinton's law office that disappeared and magically reappeared. I think there's enough there that would have put joe sixpack away for a long time. Sure she was cleared of that, and of travelgate.
And OJ was acquitted, and so was Micheal Jackson. And so was Richard Scrushy, (Healthsouth). And so was Ted Kennedy. Money is what makes this country and the world go around.
If repeating or using language devices such as "old saws" makes you an idiot, then I'll go with that, along with most other people in the country. Geez what a picky, stupid thing to get seize upon. The mark of someone who's reaching.
I never said I agreed with the ruling in Bush v. Gore. You assume again, you moron. Do all your elected officials, or all leftist judges do exactly as you'd have them do?
You switch places, can't you keep it straight? First you complain of Gitmo, then you bring up Abu Ghraib. It's a good thing losers like you have people like me to protect you. The Red Cross is not the ultimate authority. And the "torture" that was dished out, how does that compare to decapitation and car bombing women and children? Again, misplaced priorities. You get your talking points straight from MoveOn.org. You need to branch out and get some more information.
Finally, I did my time in the miliary, not that I intended to play that card, but you called me on it. And you? You probably still wet the bed.
Bah. Go away, I tire of your meaningless prattle.
We detain "brown people", be specific... Arab muslims because we are at war. You are a spineless coward, and fortunately, you and your ilk are left to impotently railling on the internet, snobbishly telling others how superior they are from mommie's basement.
It's with great pleasure that I inform you that George Bush is indeed your president. And that another conservative will be installed on the supreme court. I also would like to let you know, that it is people like me, who make decisions for people like you.
I know, you'll say: bad descisions. Fine. Don't like it? Shower up, pack your things, and go to Canada. Otherwise, keep living with the decisions we pig-ignorant people make for you.
You slobbering wanker.
Right, the person retiring was not in favor of Kelo. Nor am I. Nor were the conservative judges. It was the left that were in favor of this decision: John Paul Stevens, Anthony Kennedy, David H. Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen G. Breyer.
I'm not even sure what you've got your pants in a twist about? Just looking for a right winger to take a swing at?
What a pointless reply.
"Real issues. Not hand-wringing"
I see it as hand wringing. Taking a point, a move, a shift, and extending it as far as you can in a negative direction, in order to get your way. I fall right of center. I admit it, I'm ok with it. Withholding birth control is over the top for me. Most of my "right wing" buddies, (which includes some Catholics), would feel the same way.
You have a lot of factors in play here. Vast public opinion, free market forces, over stepping of bounderies... I feel safe in concluding that would never happen. In fact, I'm betting my kid's America on it.
Feel free to go back to hand wringing though.
You assume too much, which I find to be a failing of the leftist/elitists.
I am apalled at all sports franchises augmenting their earnings at the general public's expense. What Bush was involved in does irritate me, along with his refusal to secure the southern border, and his refusal to address offshoring our manufacturing base to a communist country.
Unlike a reflexive leftist Bush basher, I can see the good he's done too. The war on terror is good, I know that can be debated, but I'm on board with it. I do think the country needs a little more conservative balance. So, a conservative judge works for me.
Either party is filled with people that are detestable, despicable, and don't care about us. Do you think Ted Kennedy is a good guy? Did Hillary Clinton have a hand in travelgate, or make any money on cattle futures or whitewater?
Judicial activism is not code. It's how you see things. Leftist judges often refer to the Constitution as a living document, meant to be interpreted as they see fit, in a given context. Most on the right don't see it that way. That is the real difference.
As for my source of information... again, you assume, and you know what happens when you assume. Yes, I watch Fox. I also watch MSNBC, and occassionally CNN. I read Drudge, and FreeRepublic and DU, and slashdot, and CNN online, and follow links to NYT, Washinton Post, Akron Beacon Journal, etc.
Oh, I forgot, the liberal elitist in you assumes I am a knuckle dragger who can barely read, watches Fox and regurgitates everything they tell me.
Ok, one of two things here, I'm not quite sure where you were going.
Women were able to purchase birth control?!
Is abortion birth control to you? If it is, we diverge here in a huge way. Abortion is not trivial in my belief system. It's not like buying contraceptive pills, or condoms, etc.
If you don't see abortion as contraceptive, and you were jumping to hyperbole right away... well, that's the kind of thing that leads those of us with a stronger constitution to take hand wringers lightly.
I'm ok with:
#1 - A hot button, but I'm ok with it.
#2 - Not a big deal to me. Much to do about nothing.
#3 - Oh right, that Gulag, the Killing Fields of Cuba. Please. What do you do with captured enemy combatants in wartime.
The hawks are keeping you hand wringers safe. Maybe one day you'll be able to understand what was done for you. If they aren't successful, you and your grandchildren will have plenty of time to think of what could have been when you are praying 5 times a day while facing Mecca.
Ok, so let me make sure I understand what you're saying:
Leftist judges are not activists, it is the right who tries to rewrite laws from the bench?
So, the Kelo case is upholding the constitution?
And... it's all BUSH'S fault. It's always Bush's fault. The left has been crying for 5 freakin' years. Guess what, if the left was a bit more motivated, you could have Kerry in there selling shit to China like Clinton did, and you'd be happy.
The leftist navel gazing of this site is getting to be a bit much. The parent is a legitmate, thoughtful comment. If I had any points I'd give them to that comment.
I'd write it off as a bunch of nose picking, spoiled kids, but they are kids with jobs and votes. What will you kids fight for? Do you have the will to do anything but complain?
Get out of your mother's basement, and you'll begin to realize, there are things that are more important than what you downloaded from bittorrent or what CPU Apple is using this time around.
The parent was thoughtful... THIS is flamebait.
Unfortunatly, reason in the politcal arena gets you nothing here. The parent, which truly is Bush bashing non sensical drivel, is at a 3, and will be modded up because it's a bash. Your comment is 1 and will go no higher. If I hadn't commented already, I'd mod you up! :)
I don't care how independents feel. I'm sick and tired of worrying about each little fraction of the population. Majority rule is not mob rule. Majority opinion is not a bad thing. I know elitist liberals figure the majority is stupid, and they are the only smart ones. Well, I'm part of the majority, and I disagree. It's time we quit going with minority rule.
Did I hear you wimper? :)
Yep, everything is Bush's fault. He's trashing the place.
But, for your own good, he's going to pick someone who will interpret the constitution, not try to rewrite it.
As with all kids, one day when you're old enough, you'll see the wisdom and thank president Bush. Or not. Either way, works for me.
Ok, here goes some karma, since I know most of the folks here tend to be on the left side of the asile...
I don't think Bush can mess up the SCOTUS any more than it is already. Please don't forget that it was the left leaning justices who gave your local officials the right to take your property if they deem it to be in the public interest. And I believe most local public officals can be easily purchased by a WalMart looking for a new home.
Nice job SCOTUS.
Ah yes, I wish we had the simpler moral times, like when there was slavery, or when we could enjoy the charity of the robber barons, or when the industrialists exploited city labor, or the times of the Savings & Loan collapse. Every generation has its share of greedy snakes.
Great philosophy: "People have always screwed each other, so why expect more? Why aspire to be better?"
It's called competition, if somebody came along and offered you the same job but at 20% higher pay you'd take it. There is no loyalty from the employees or the business. Jobs move, jobs get eliminated, the world changes; adapt.
Actually, there's more to it than pay. I can honestly say that I wouldn't jump unconditionally for 20%, or even 30%. To me, there are issues such as quality of life, and yes, loyalty.
Go ahead, support offshore outsourcing. Support the move of manufacturing capacity to communist China. Think of nothing but yourself. At some point, there will be a heavy price to pay for that behavior, either by you or your kids. But, given that you care only about you, what your kids pay isn't an issue, now is it?
We have raised a generation of people who are morally bankrupt. Their focus is what they will make today, this week, this quarter. There is no thought of long term profits, or any concern for their neighbors. As long as their portfolio grows today, that's all they care about. Enron, Tyco, Global Crossing... all about greed. Screw anyone to make a few bucks. No concern about what's right. I read the freerepublic, (I know, that won't win me points here), and I see those kinds of people all the time. It's mind boggling, but they just don't care about anyone, or anything but themselves. Ask them what they'll do when they can't sell stuff to out of work Americans and they'll tell you, without shame, that someone, somewhere will be working, they'll sell to them! Pathetic.
There have been 2 schools of thought as to why Macs didn't have the problems that PC users did in terms of virii.
#1 - Mac OS is superior, with fewer security holes.
#2 - Market share is what saved Macs. Virus writers didn't bother because the Mac hardware was relatively rare.
If #1 is the case, Macs will continue to be relatively trouble free. If #2 is the case, then virii will be "ported". OS differences exist, but the underlying architecture now will be the same. If you know how to write an assembly language program to wipe out a PC, you will now know how to write an assembly language program to wipe out a Mac.
At no point did I indicate that Windows virii would infect the new Intel Macs.
Clearly you have no idea how to properly flame someone. Think before you flame.
Can you say anti-virus? Sure you can! I like the way you say that.
"On the other hand, I did get a nice refresher on the process. You do forget a few things in 20 years. And I can use the site as a resource for my kids, since they'll be too busy being taught "Intelligent Design" to be bothered with anything as mundane as chemistry and physics."
I find it interesting how liberal points of view automatically elevate a comment, even when it's lacking much in the way of substance. And, at then end, when you digress and take a very weak swipe at intelligent design, you aren't seen as offtopic.
I don't take offense. I don't have emotional investment in this. Just observing how the moderators tend to work here.