Even membership at the largest groups like the Free Masons is drastically down because of this "me,me,me,ME!" shift in community focus.
My belief is you're seeing the same sickness which has infected almost all levels of society. And IMOHO, it seems to get worse with the current generation. The current generation is all about "me" and all feel entitled. And if you don't play their game of giving to them, then you're not worth spit so why should they do anything for anyone else.
In other words, I don't see what you're describing as a ham problem, I see it as a larger societal problem.
I would say you need to go back a couple of messages. Re-read what I wrote. Read what you wrote. I think you'll understand what I'm talking about. I'd guess emotions blurred your perception a little here.
And to be clear, all of your comments above are completely off topic for this thread. That's why you should re-read to understand where you took a left turn.
Safety ? Isn't half of the crashes due to human errors ?
Actually, most crashes are deemed "human error". But then again, they blame almost anything on human error. If the wings come off during straight and level flight, they may decide it's human error for failure to maintain positive control. Okay, that was not realistic but let me give you one.
Pilot takes off. During his climb out, the engine fails. His only option is a field in front of him. Pilot clips some bushes as he comes in low. The accident is deemed to be pilot error for failure to maintain positive control; which completely ignores this thing call, "physics." Associated factors include engine failure and landing off field. No injuries and the aircraft received significant damage.
Is that really human error? A large chunk of accidents are really not human error in the least. Then again, there is a good size chunk which is well into Darwin Award territory.
The problem with UAVs is ALL pilots are required to "see and avoid". UAVs are so small, it's almost impossible for a pilot to fulfill his responsibility. And, since the UAV is unmanned with very limited capabilities to avoid the pilots which almost certainly can't see it, they can't do their part either. So basically, people flying blind. This means they are trying to purposely create midair collisions but forcing UAVs into public use air. How long do you think a person would last walking down a highway with blinders on?
One of the worst situations is actually happening in Houston. The Houston PD/Sheriff has spent tons of dollars on UAVs but they do not have permission to fly them. Their solution; illegally fly them. It seems HPD is above the law and has not problem endangering the public. Tell the public and news organizations they are coordinating with the FAA and have created a TFR where they are flying. In reality, they are clueless, creating a serious threat to public safety. When the news copter showed up (there was not a TFR so he could legally be there) to report on their illegal actions, they threatened to arrest him if he did not immediately leave the area. HPD has no legal authority to tell the helicopter to leave. My money is on HPD killing a bunch of people in the next year or two unless some heads roll real soon.
I guess right on cue someone has to jump in and attack yet not provide specifics. Care to dress me down further? Do you really wonder why I made the post, to which you originally replied? At this point it should be obvious.
And I would say, not your target. It is fairly obvious you're talking out your rear here. In a nut shell you just claimed anyone that uses GIMP can't possibly be profession. Obviously, factually, you are wrong so I'm not sure why you bothered to post.
I have to agree with you. It all sounds like baseless bashing. We all know about the printing side things but that doesn't really have anything to do with the UI.
One comment I've seen several times is the lack of context menus. This mean people expect a right click to do something else based on the currently selected tool? Even so, that sounds like basis to argue there is room for improvement and not that the UI is completely foobared and unusable. One of the rational replies I received basically said common actions are more tedious. My question is, is this a difference in interface idioms or truly a design deficiency? All I know is it is hard to separate the emotion from fact.
For example, I can do some things much faster in XEmacs than most VI users. The inverse is also true. That hardly means both are horribly flawed and broken. Nor does it mean one is superior over the other. It just means each has differences in their interface goals and the way they implemented a particular idiom. On the other hand, if I apply most GIMP comments to these editors, they are both unfit for professional use. Which is exactly why I keep pondering the legitimacy of the often spouted anti-GIMP comments.
Thus far all I'm hearing is it is bad because it is not photoshop. And despite the constant criticism, the UI is plenty functional with room for improvement. Which seemingly matches my own impression of the product. I guess the remaining variable is exactly how much and in what way improvement is required.
I hear ya. But that's why I offered that people who are using GIMP as professionals are not using focus follows mouse. In my opinion, regardless if you're willing buy into the "superior aspect" of it, GIMP's usability does not appear to be significantly hindered by its users.
Again, perhaps I'm out in left field here, but why is clicking a window, as a user does with any other application, cause such strife when it's a fact of life for users who don't use focus follows mouse? Seems like you're damning a specific application because of a personal usability bias; which can be observed in every other application the user runs on that system. What am I missing?
Ya, I have to buzz you are paragraph 2. Focus follows mouse is hardly a problem to say the least. Try it out some time and you'll quickly find it is far, far superior. If you challenge me on it, I guess I'll take the time to type up something in detail but seriously, try it out. You'll quickly find you're much more efficient, so long as you actually are a multitasking user. Hint, this means you rarely, if ever, maximize windows.
Ignoring mouse issues, which is a WM aspect anyways, I don't understand how a WM aspect is in any way, shape, or form, cause for condemnation of a completely unrelated application. Besides, most people I know, including the professionals, certainly are NOT using mouse follows focus. In fact, they are running in Win32 platforms and mouse follows focus often horribly breaks window's horrible interface. I personally also use mouse follows focus on windows but I'm by far not the typical windows user.
that from the evidence it probably should have gone to trial.
How so? Just about every claim they made was either blown out of the water or proven to be unsubstantiated conjecture with rabid attempts at fishing expeditions; which were normally granted into SCO's favor.
Perhaps I missed the damning evidence to which you refer but last I heard, the only evidence I've seen is SCO is a puppet for MS, they have no supporting facts. And every fact which has not been shot down at this point is hotly debated by those that seem to actually own the IP in the first place.
So please, explain to me what evidence would possibly support the need to send this to trial? Seriously, this is not a troll. As I said, perhaps I missed something over the years but every time I've checked, SCO has never had anything of substance to back up their wildly exaggerated claims.
You know I see this stated every time someone mentions GIMP. And rarely is it backed it up with anything factual. At best, people say it sucks because it's not photoshop. Well, by that lame definition, every application in the world sucks, save only one. Hardly a defensible position.
What is so bad about GIMP?? I've used it for very simple purposes. I'm not a professional. I'm equally lost in GIMP as I am Photoshop. And unless you use one or the other every day, you are too; unless you are spinning one for us.
Maybe it's because I'm not a professional artist, I remain ignorant of the details for more complex, day to day operations? But then again, that should tell you the interface isn't fundamentally broken. Why? Because otherwise people wouldn't be able to intuit the interface as experience grows, just as people do with Photoshop. And frankly, I have used it enough now to do all the basic things I need to do without any trouble.
As a side note, I know professional photographers (they get paid big bucks for their work) which use GIMP without trouble. Does this mean it's ready for all photographers? No. What he does is a niche for sure. Nonetheless, with a zero digital editing background, he figured how to do what he needs to do with little effort or pain. This again suggests you're fighting a common bias rather than a fundamental UI flaw.
To be clear, I am not advocating GIMP's interface is the best thing since sliced bread. All I'm saying is it's different but I'm certainly not seeing anything bad; which is in stark contrast to the commonly offered opinion here.
Here is a metric for obvious. Has anyone ever used a status indicator or tone to indicate the status or change in status of something? Simple fact is, yes we have, for hundreds of years. This patent is obvious to anyone that has seen any facet of civilization for the last several hundred years. Heck, this patent is obvious to anyone who has ever had a mail box.
When I was a kid in the 70s, mailboxes had a flag. It's logically the exact same thing.
Juries can do whatever they want, and frequently do.
Actually, that's infrequently do. Most juries have no idea that they have options other than the follow the Judge's order to the letter. The strength of a jurry is often limited by the character and knowledge of its foreman. Now realize for a second and think about the fact that most anyone with strong character and/or knowledge has already been eliminated from the hurry by the selection process.
There are also situations where juries simply do not understand their task. I've spoken with someone that told me the jury purposely awarded a large amount as punishment. They believed the amount they awarded represented the sum total. Once the judge heard this amount he them multiplied it to account for punitive damages. The jury, shocked, then informed the Judge they had made a mistake. The Judge refused to listen and insisted on using the award officially entered into record.
But then again, I did say a *real* database. I'd use BDB or just about anything else to not have to use MySQL.
Despite all that, the point was, 64MB is very limited for many problem domains. Yes, 64MB is perfectly fine for small web sites and maybe a mail server, but not much else. Despite my objections, for all I know, that may just cover 50% of all hosting needs.;)
I didn't mean to make it sound like an absolute. But along this line, it turns out the military did a study and radar guys had a much higher sterility rate than other soldiers.
Should I have posted additional detail and done so anonymously? That's the only other option. One of those situations I know all too well. The second happened at my school when I was younger.
If you wish to ignore it, I don't blame you. But I'd bet you'd be surprised by the type of junk you see brought before a judge. The system is broken.
Obvious and the patent holder should be shot at dawn.
And let's not forget every modern office phone with the blinking voice mail light. Or the answering machine that flashes when a message is available. So much for expanding our scientific knowledge. Visual Voicemail my ass.
America is degenerating quickly. If you think your vote counts, you'd better start using it differently at every level. Because the "same-old, same-old" is what got us here.
Regardless which party you prefer, or where you cast your vote, with the current crop of candidates, it doesn't look possible to have the "same-old, same-old".
and interact quite well with water, of which the majority of the human body is composed.
During WWII, both British and American radar operators would get warm by standing in front of their radar beams. They didn't realize they were frying their future kids.
A cell phone that is far from the nearest tower can transmit up to one watt.
Hmmm. I remember reading, while non-typical, max output from a cell phone (model dependent, more so on select GSM phones) can be up to 3 watts. Typical usage is far less than one watt.
And voltage is useless without some measure of current also
This is only loosely related but reflects one of my peeves. This is why a measure of HP is equally worthless without a torque curve. So many "motor heads" are clueless as to why this matters and get hung up on HPx > HPy.
Take a look at Ford's Mustang. When they changed from 5.0 to 4.6 liter, the HP rating went up but the car got slower. Why? HP = torque*RPM. It takes the 4.6 longer (lower torque) to develop peak HP, and by the time it is, the race was long over. With a torque curve you'll have a better idea of what the HP rating actually means.
Long story short, HP rating, by it self, it meaningless.
Even considering this, a 5 or 10 day waiting period would have done nothing - Cho obtained at least one of his weapons more than a month before commiting the massacre. And promptly committed a felony by filing the serial numbers off.
Gasp! You mean to tell me, criminals plan crimes in advance? You mean criminals don't buy a weapon five minutes before they commit a crime? This is shocking! This discovery means there is no need for a waiting period. And I'm glad those pesky black markets really don't exist. I'm sure once this becomes common knowledge people will wake up and realize that they are spitting on the Constitution with these insane and gun laws.
Oh wait. Wait. I just remembered. The people that are pro-gun laws hate the US Constitution, and prefer to live in imaginary worlds of their own design. I don't know what I was thinking.
A 5'10", 185lbs coach is assaulted by his 16 year old, 6'3", 280lbs football player. The coach defends himself and drops the glass-jawed student. The account is supported by all that witnessed the event. The coach is fired and arrested. He is prosecuted for felony assault on a minor. He now has a criminal record and is completely unable to coach as he can no longer pass his background check. He is forced to change vocation. The student received in school suspension for 90 days. Result, one life ruined and the one at fault gets to laugh about it with no long term effect.
An 17 year old is assaulted by a 14 year old where the older defends himself. The younger is physically the same size as the older. The older is arrested, as an adult, for felony assault on a minor because the age difference is more than three years and one party is 17 years of age or older. I don't know what happened after his arrest. The younger student received no punishment.
If there is proof the system is completely broken, I believe you just read it. The courts clearly need compassion, intelligence, and wisdom. Right now, predominately, all seem to be lacking.
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Even membership at the largest groups like the Free Masons is drastically down because of this "me,me,me,ME!" shift in community focus.
My belief is you're seeing the same sickness which has infected almost all levels of society. And IMOHO, it seems to get worse with the current generation. The current generation is all about "me" and all feel entitled. And if you don't play their game of giving to them, then you're not worth spit so why should they do anything for anyone else.
In other words, I don't see what you're describing as a ham problem, I see it as a larger societal problem.
I would say you need to go back a couple of messages. Re-read what I wrote. Read what you wrote. I think you'll understand what I'm talking about. I'd guess emotions blurred your perception a little here.
And to be clear, all of your comments above are completely off topic for this thread. That's why you should re-read to understand where you took a left turn.
Safety ? Isn't half of the crashes due to human errors ?
Actually, most crashes are deemed "human error". But then again, they blame almost anything on human error. If the wings come off during straight and level flight, they may decide it's human error for failure to maintain positive control. Okay, that was not realistic but let me give you one.
Pilot takes off. During his climb out, the engine fails. His only option is a field in front of him. Pilot clips some bushes as he comes in low. The accident is deemed to be pilot error for failure to maintain positive control; which completely ignores this thing call, "physics." Associated factors include engine failure and landing off field. No injuries and the aircraft received significant damage.
Is that really human error? A large chunk of accidents are really not human error in the least. Then again, there is a good size chunk which is well into Darwin Award territory.
The problem with UAVs is ALL pilots are required to "see and avoid". UAVs are so small, it's almost impossible for a pilot to fulfill his responsibility. And, since the UAV is unmanned with very limited capabilities to avoid the pilots which almost certainly can't see it, they can't do their part either. So basically, people flying blind. This means they are trying to purposely create midair collisions but forcing UAVs into public use air. How long do you think a person would last walking down a highway with blinders on?
One of the worst situations is actually happening in Houston. The Houston PD/Sheriff has spent tons of dollars on UAVs but they do not have permission to fly them. Their solution; illegally fly them. It seems HPD is above the law and has not problem endangering the public. Tell the public and news organizations they are coordinating with the FAA and have created a TFR where they are flying. In reality, they are clueless, creating a serious threat to public safety. When the news copter showed up (there was not a TFR so he could legally be there) to report on their illegal actions, they threatened to arrest him if he did not immediately leave the area. HPD has no legal authority to tell the helicopter to leave. My money is on HPD killing a bunch of people in the next year or two unless some heads roll real soon.
When I wrote that, that's all that had been said.
I guess right on cue someone has to jump in and attack yet not provide specifics. Care to dress me down further? Do you really wonder why I made the post, to which you originally replied? At this point it should be obvious.
And I would say, not your target. It is fairly obvious you're talking out your rear here. In a nut shell you just claimed anyone that uses GIMP can't possibly be profession. Obviously, factually, you are wrong so I'm not sure why you bothered to post.
I have to agree with you. It all sounds like baseless bashing. We all know about the printing side things but that doesn't really have anything to do with the UI.
One comment I've seen several times is the lack of context menus. This mean people expect a right click to do something else based on the currently selected tool? Even so, that sounds like basis to argue there is room for improvement and not that the UI is completely foobared and unusable. One of the rational replies I received basically said common actions are more tedious. My question is, is this a difference in interface idioms or truly a design deficiency? All I know is it is hard to separate the emotion from fact.
For example, I can do some things much faster in XEmacs than most VI users. The inverse is also true. That hardly means both are horribly flawed and broken. Nor does it mean one is superior over the other. It just means each has differences in their interface goals and the way they implemented a particular idiom. On the other hand, if I apply most GIMP comments to these editors, they are both unfit for professional use. Which is exactly why I keep pondering the legitimacy of the often spouted anti-GIMP comments.
Thus far all I'm hearing is it is bad because it is not photoshop. And despite the constant criticism, the UI is plenty functional with room for improvement. Which seemingly matches my own impression of the product. I guess the remaining variable is exactly how much and in what way improvement is required.
I hear ya. But that's why I offered that people who are using GIMP as professionals are not using focus follows mouse. In my opinion, regardless if you're willing buy into the "superior aspect" of it, GIMP's usability does not appear to be significantly hindered by its users.
Again, perhaps I'm out in left field here, but why is clicking a window, as a user does with any other application, cause such strife when it's a fact of life for users who don't use focus follows mouse? Seems like you're damning a specific application because of a personal usability bias; which can be observed in every other application the user runs on that system. What am I missing?
Ya, I have to buzz you are paragraph 2. Focus follows mouse is hardly a problem to say the least. Try it out some time and you'll quickly find it is far, far superior. If you challenge me on it, I guess I'll take the time to type up something in detail but seriously, try it out. You'll quickly find you're much more efficient, so long as you actually are a multitasking user. Hint, this means you rarely, if ever, maximize windows.
Ignoring mouse issues, which is a WM aspect anyways, I don't understand how a WM aspect is in any way, shape, or form, cause for condemnation of a completely unrelated application. Besides, most people I know, including the professionals, certainly are NOT using mouse follows focus. In fact, they are running in Win32 platforms and mouse follows focus often horribly breaks window's horrible interface. I personally also use mouse follows focus on windows but I'm by far not the typical windows user.
that from the evidence it probably should have gone to trial.
How so? Just about every claim they made was either blown out of the water or proven to be unsubstantiated conjecture with rabid attempts at fishing expeditions; which were normally granted into SCO's favor.
Perhaps I missed the damning evidence to which you refer but last I heard, the only evidence I've seen is SCO is a puppet for MS, they have no supporting facts. And every fact which has not been shot down at this point is hotly debated by those that seem to actually own the IP in the first place.
So please, explain to me what evidence would possibly support the need to send this to trial? Seriously, this is not a troll. As I said, perhaps I missed something over the years but every time I've checked, SCO has never had anything of substance to back up their wildly exaggerated claims.
You know I see this stated every time someone mentions GIMP. And rarely is it backed it up with anything factual. At best, people say it sucks because it's not photoshop. Well, by that lame definition, every application in the world sucks, save only one. Hardly a defensible position.
What is so bad about GIMP?? I've used it for very simple purposes. I'm not a professional. I'm equally lost in GIMP as I am Photoshop. And unless you use one or the other every day, you are too; unless you are spinning one for us.
Maybe it's because I'm not a professional artist, I remain ignorant of the details for more complex, day to day operations? But then again, that should tell you the interface isn't fundamentally broken. Why? Because otherwise people wouldn't be able to intuit the interface as experience grows, just as people do with Photoshop. And frankly, I have used it enough now to do all the basic things I need to do without any trouble.
As a side note, I know professional photographers (they get paid big bucks for their work) which use GIMP without trouble. Does this mean it's ready for all photographers? No. What he does is a niche for sure. Nonetheless, with a zero digital editing background, he figured how to do what he needs to do with little effort or pain. This again suggests you're fighting a common bias rather than a fundamental UI flaw.
To be clear, I am not advocating GIMP's interface is the best thing since sliced bread. All I'm saying is it's different but I'm certainly not seeing anything bad; which is in stark contrast to the commonly offered opinion here.
Here is a metric for obvious. Has anyone ever used a status indicator or tone to indicate the status or change in status of something? Simple fact is, yes we have, for hundreds of years. This patent is obvious to anyone that has seen any facet of civilization for the last several hundred years. Heck, this patent is obvious to anyone who has ever had a mail box.
When I was a kid in the 70s, mailboxes had a flag. It's logically the exact same thing.
Juries can do whatever they want, and frequently do.
Actually, that's infrequently do. Most juries have no idea that they have options other than the follow the Judge's order to the letter. The strength of a jurry is often limited by the character and knowledge of its foreman. Now realize for a second and think about the fact that most anyone with strong character and/or knowledge has already been eliminated from the hurry by the selection process.
There are also situations where juries simply do not understand their task. I've spoken with someone that told me the jury purposely awarded a large amount as punishment. They believed the amount they awarded represented the sum total. Once the judge heard this amount he them multiplied it to account for punitive damages. The jury, shocked, then informed the Judge they had made a mistake. The Judge refused to listen and insisted on using the award officially entered into record.
MySQL is very resource-friendly
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But then again, I did say a *real* database. I'd use BDB or just about anything else to not have to use MySQL.
Despite all that, the point was, 64MB is very limited for many problem domains. Yes, 64MB is perfectly fine for small web sites and maybe a mail server, but not much else. Despite my objections, for all I know, that may just cover 50% of all hosting needs.
I didn't mean to make it sound like an absolute. But along this line, it turns out the military did a study and radar guys had a much higher sterility rate than other soldiers.
Should I have posted additional detail and done so anonymously? That's the only other option. One of those situations I know all too well. The second happened at my school when I was younger.
If you wish to ignore it, I don't blame you. But I'd bet you'd be surprised by the type of junk you see brought before a judge. The system is broken.
Obvious and the patent holder should be shot at dawn.
And let's not forget every modern office phone with the blinking voice mail light. Or the answering machine that flashes when a message is available. So much for expanding our scientific knowledge. Visual Voicemail my ass.
That immediately popped into my head. You beat me to it.
Does your public library have unlimited books on all topics you want?
This becomes a non-issue once you're talking about e-books. Most libraries are limited by physical space.
America is degenerating quickly. If you think your vote counts, you'd better start using it differently at every level. Because the "same-old, same-old" is what got us here.
Regardless which party you prefer, or where you cast your vote, with the current crop of candidates, it doesn't look possible to have the "same-old, same-old".
and interact quite well with water, of which the majority of the human body is composed.
During WWII, both British and American radar operators would get warm by standing in front of their radar beams. They didn't realize they were frying their future kids.
A cell phone that is far from the nearest tower can transmit up to one watt.
Hmmm. I remember reading, while non-typical, max output from a cell phone (model dependent, more so on select GSM phones) can be up to 3 watts. Typical usage is far less than one watt.
So long as you have small working sets and don't need a real database. Otherwise, you're either going to page or constantly be hitting the disks.
And voltage is useless without some measure of current also
This is only loosely related but reflects one of my peeves. This is why a measure of HP is equally worthless without a torque curve. So many "motor heads" are clueless as to why this matters and get hung up on HPx > HPy.
Take a look at Ford's Mustang. When they changed from 5.0 to 4.6 liter, the HP rating went up but the car got slower. Why? HP = torque*RPM. It takes the 4.6 longer (lower torque) to develop peak HP, and by the time it is, the race was long over. With a torque curve you'll have a better idea of what the HP rating actually means.
Long story short, HP rating, by it self, it meaningless.
Even considering this, a 5 or 10 day waiting period would have done nothing - Cho obtained at least one of his weapons more than a month before commiting the massacre. And promptly committed a felony by filing the serial numbers off.
Gasp! You mean to tell me, criminals plan crimes in advance? You mean criminals don't buy a weapon five minutes before they commit a crime? This is shocking! This discovery means there is no need for a waiting period. And I'm glad those pesky black markets really don't exist. I'm sure once this becomes common knowledge people will wake up and realize that they are spitting on the Constitution with these insane and gun laws.
Oh wait. Wait. I just remembered. The people that are pro-gun laws hate the US Constitution, and prefer to live in imaginary worlds of their own design. I don't know what I was thinking.
I'm sorry I had to be the one to tell you this.
Some data points for you:
A 5'10", 185lbs coach is assaulted by his 16 year old, 6'3", 280lbs football player. The coach defends himself and drops the glass-jawed student. The account is supported by all that witnessed the event. The coach is fired and arrested. He is prosecuted for felony assault on a minor. He now has a criminal record and is completely unable to coach as he can no longer pass his background check. He is forced to change vocation. The student received in school suspension for 90 days. Result, one life ruined and the one at fault gets to laugh about it with no long term effect.
An 17 year old is assaulted by a 14 year old where the older defends himself. The younger is physically the same size as the older. The older is arrested, as an adult, for felony assault on a minor because the age difference is more than three years and one party is 17 years of age or older. I don't know what happened after his arrest. The younger student received no punishment.
If there is proof the system is completely broken, I believe you just read it. The courts clearly need compassion, intelligence, and wisdom. Right now, predominately, all seem to be lacking.