I actually posted that comment as a very dry joke. Obviously it was too dry. I figured everyone was on the same page and it would be see for the obvious fish hook it is. You've seemingly gone beyond the comment in an interesting way. I find it interesting that you feel the President is forcing Iran and North Korea to become nuclear powers given that they both started their efforts before 9/11. In other words, they want to become nuclear powers for reasons strictly of their own accord rather than any heavy handed tactics by the US.
In fact, for a decard or two, it has been feared Iran would become a nuclear power because of their extremist views and hatrid of all things sane. The US is not forcing any country to become a nuclear power. Period. In fact, if Iran would walk away from their stupidity, little to no conflict, aside from traditional politics would remain. The US knows this. Iran knows this. The world knows this.
In short, to suggest anyone is forcing Iran or NK to become nuclear powers is wholely ignoring the facts surrounding the situation.
That's on purpose! Making jokes does not contribute to a discussion. Thusly, if it is funny, others may want to see it but getting points for not contributing to the subject matter just doesn't make sense.
Who are these moderators and where do they come from? The post was obviously "funny" and not "insightful". Do these moderators actually think the mars rovers were created by aliens? If the rovers were not created by aliens, then I think it's safe to say, human traffic exists on Mars.
To bad we can't meta moderate the moderators as "moron". Seriously guys...the poster has a friggen smiley face after his comment! What other clues do you guys require to figure things out. Are critical thinking skills no longer taught in school? And yes I'm cranky...I'm tired of constantly meta moderating posts which are obvious to anyone with a brain, incorrectly moderated.
And for the record 10Hgz, I thought your comment was funny...as you intended. Keep it up!
Was Stephen Falken suppose to be Steven Hawking? Was Steven Hawking even known back then? Anyone know? When I was old enough to know who Steven Hawking was, I've always wondered if that is who that character was based on. In name only perhaps?
Not really. While many FAA rules don't make sense, there is always a pragmatist's undertone present. They know if they make it too hard people will simply take their chances which may result in a crackdown on the FAA (or CAA in this case) for not doing their job, should the worst happen. Thusly, in the light of self preservation, they make it easy so NOTAMS can be issues, thusly shifting the burden from the hobbiests, to the agency, to the pilots to avoid hitting the object. At that point, everyone is happy; the lanuch site is legal, the FAA/CAA is legal and insulated, and the pilot's must make sure they "see and avoid" all the time anyways.
Hopefully someone will mod you funny. I actually heard Bender's voice in my head the first time I read that post. And no, I normally don't hear voices in my head.;)
Windows and *nix have completely different philosophies of design, and generally the changes between releases of Windows are fairly small.
This has nothing to do with Unix vs Windows philosophies. If it did, OS/X would be included in that comment. Don't forget, OS/X is Unix made perty. Proof that you're an idiot and have no idea what you're talking about.
Regardless of what you consider "fairly small", the reality is pretty far from your delusional world. Having said that, most of the training goes for others like admins. Your typical user mostly, won't notice...which is true for Linux users too. Which is to say, your typical desktop user, will have zero trouble adapting to use Linux. Having said that, admin certainly differs and this is where training typically requires the most effort; Windows, Unix or Linux. Frankly, your typical user won't notice any functional difference in the desktop but will in the applications.
On a side note, assholes like you are the reason why Linux will never make it on the desktop; Apple and Microsoft will dominate desktops for the immediate future. Perhaps one day when your kind have all went to their graves, Linux will have a chance (but I doubt it).
Yet more proof you're a moron. Linux is already making it as a desktop. Apple is already making it as a desktop. Between the two, we have yet more proof that you're an absolute idiot. Oddly enough, you seem to be hanging everything on my shoulders. When in reality, people like me (realist) telling people like you (morons) how the world works, is not helping or hurting Linux one way or the other. Frankly, the fact that Linux works differently, and you're angry about it, is yet more proof that you're an idiot.
There's an article somewhere out there that basically says Windows != Linux; go read that,
Yet more proof, that you're an idiot. Linux != Windows, which was my whole fucking point you retard! Now, if you want to argue Linux will be slow to adopt because it's not Windows, that's fine... After all, that was my whole fucking point.
Yes, it's true. I'm not in law enforcement but know people. Likewise, not long ago on TV I saw a video of a cop going through his taser training. Seems the instructor had only just completed his training too. As a result, the instructor forget to properly elevate the taser to account for the rapid sink in the darts. As a result, the copy got a taser dart in the nuts. Worse, the instructor and other cops standing around started laughing their asses off...all the while, forgetting to turn off the taser. So while the other cops are all laughing, this poor guy is flopping around like a fish on a not tin roof.
Needless to say, I seriously doubt that cop will forget what a taser feels like.
So you won't even be upgrading your OS to MS' next and greatest? If not, I tip my hat. If you will or ever have upgraded, then you're a lying hypocrite. Smple fact is, you learn new ways to do the same old stuff with just about every release of Windows. This is one of many reasons why companies are often slow to adopt; training. Gasp! Yet according to you, common sense is all everyone needs and no one had to learn windows in the first place because it's all intuitive; which is 100% contrary to what useability studies say.
I'm sorry, but you're completely unrealistic and way out in left field. In other words, it's okay if you have to learn what MS does, but if it's a non-Windows platform then you'll cry and run to mommy about how the big, bad alternate desktop made you learn something again. Get real.
Nuff said. If you don't get it as this point...you never will.
Then you're not remembering correctly. Turns out they follow their internal compass, flying in a "zig-zag" mannor, to locate landmarks. Seems they *might* also use the sun as a cross reference with their compass.
So in other words, they use their compass and sun to determine the general direction they should fly. They then fly around in that general direction until they locate landmarks they know. Once they have located known landmarks, their seeking zig-zag pattern stops and they start flying a more "as the crow flies" path.
You analogy is fairly broken. You 100% made exactly my point. You are incorrectly assuming that all the worlds vehicles function like a car. Surprise! They don't. Perhaps you've heard of tractors? Piston airplanes? Jet airplanes? Boats? Semi-trucks? Tanks? Ships? They are all vehicles (an OS) but each is operated slightly differently. Thusly, if you jump into a plane and expect to operate it as a car, you're going to crash and burn. So yes, if you stop unreasonbly assuming the world must bend to your whim, you'll be a lot happier in life. Guess what, people are not going to redesign airplanes so you can drive it like a car. And their refusal to not engage such stupidity does not make them egotistical, stupid, or difficult. Guess what, people are not going to redesign their OS so that it works like Windows. Get over it. Get over your ego. Guess what, Windows' interface really isn't that great...which is why people are trying different things.
The fact that you proved exactly my point and yet it went WAY over your heard, pretty well proves the problem is 100% between the computer and chair. In the end, you need to realize the world is not going to implement a lessor system, for the sake of bending to your whim. Get over your self and stop complaining about how lazy you are. Surprise, no one wants to hear it.
Lastly, given the above analogy, you didn't spring from your mother knowing how to operate a car anymore than you knew how to operate Microsoft's Windows. You needed to learn to operate Windows just as you need to learn to operate Linux. Tihs is not the least bit unreasonable. The sooner you cope with reality, the happier you'll be.
It sounds like you took something out of context. The application domain greatly impacts how you can go about scaling. Adding a box to a cluster only helps with certain types of problem domains. In some cases, it helps a lot. In other cases, it can actually hurt performance. As a rule of thumb, clustered programming is trickier than SMP programming. Not to mention, clusters are far less common that are SMP solutions.
Really, the limiting factor for SMP right now is the lack of application support. The secondary issue is, in my experience, the vast majority of programmers have no idea how to go about effecitvely using multiple threads unless the problem can be neatly addressed by a consumer/producer model. And guess what...a lot of problems don't fit well with that solution. Thus we have a nasty cycle of one feeding into the other.
Your quoting is confusing. I never said that so I'm assuming you did.
Face it: the problem will always be the user for you people.
If by "you people", you mean Linux users, you would be 100% wrong. In fact, such a statement only shows contempt and ignorance. If by "you people", you mean people that actually perform usability studies as a living, then you would be right. The common theme that keeps coming up is that 1, windows is far from intuitive (it's a learned skill), and 2, if an OS is not like Windows, people desperately resist it; assuming they are already Windows users. People that have not been previously biased by Windows, seem to pick up Linux equally fast as Windows. Hmmm...what does that tell you. These FACTS can be summerized by saying, "People know what they know and Linux isn't what they know." In other words, you LEARNED windows....so why is it unreasonable to expect someone to LEARN Linux? It's odd how everyone has to point that a problem is over there and...oh...over there too...and oh...there too...when in reality, one need only look in the mirror to find the real problem. Get off your lazy, worthless, butt and stop expected the world to bend to your whim. The world doesn't work like that...why would you expect Linux to be any different. It's childish and dumb to believe otherwise.
In other words, it's obvious you're rather ignorant on the topic which begs the question...why are you commenting on a topic where it should be very obvious to even your self, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Simple fact is, for people that stop crying like little spoiled children and get off their lazy ass to learn a new OS, using Linux is trivial. For idiots and lazy dolts that expect the world to bend over and hand it to them, everything is difficult...except complaining and crying. Hell, my wife (who is far, far, far from technical) picked up Linux in less than an hour as a user. I'm sorry, but if you can't pick up Linux in less than 1-days effort (as a user), you're dumb as a door knob. And no amount of tweaking to Linux is going to change that. Dumb is dumb, regardless of which OS you run.
Of course you are the kind of elitist asshole who doesn't want anybody to be able to learn without it being made as difficult as possible to do so,
Neurotic much? What crack are you on? Do you have any concept of reality? What did I say that made me elitist; facts of the reality we live in? Are you that removed from reality? Learning should not be hard. Most things Linux these days, is not hard to learn. Furthermore, what did I say that indicated even one iota that I believe things should be hard?
Claiming that the software is as good as it needs to be, and that people should be forced to choose between a pointlessly long learning curve that exists solely as an initiation to the Loyal Order of Basement Dwellers, or not using a piece of software at all, is idiotic.
According to your stupidity, all hobbiest, which make their works available for other hobbiests, are assholes. In the real world, well, the world where idiots and dolts DO NOT live, either say thank you and take the contirbution, or pass because it's beyond them. What an idiot you are.
Do you understand at all that these are NOT paid employees? Do you understand that you're an idiot? Do you understand that you're a greedy, selfish, idiot? Do you understand that you're a greedy, selfish, ungrateful, idiot? According to your retarded logic, hobbiests, which kindly allow other hobbiests to benefit from their time and energy, are assholes because you're too lazy and/or too stupid to understand their contribution? What a self righteous, egocentric, moron you are. Wow, I didn't realize you were so important. Seems, in your little world, everyone's free time is yours to dictate! What a prick!
A properly-constructed interface makes EVERYBODY more productive, but it makes pseudo-intellectual pricks like you disposible.
NO, it doesn't! The fact that you said that idicates you're a clueless, idiot. The fact that you're obviously much dumber than I 1, indicates you're not in a position to rank my intellectual capacity, and 2, as "pseudo-intelligent" as I am, you're still many, many rungs below me. Either way, it doesn't look good for you.
The FACT of the matter is, writing a slick interface takes a fair bit of time. Time which can be otherwise spent satisfying the intellectual needs which spawned the creation of the software in the first place. Let's see, which would anyone with half a brain do: 1, code because they want to, exploring and extending the features that are important to them, or 2, write lots of code to make an interface to satisfy some prick that thinks everyone works for him. Obviously, you think the answer is 2, which proves you're a greedy, selfish, ungrateful, egotistical, idiot.
Being a jackass yourself is no excuse. I, and doubtless many others, take great comfort in the fact that you will likely never reproduce.
I may be a jackass, but at least I'm not you. I can safely say, anyone with an IQ higher than 60 can easily see you're talking about your self. At the end of the day, I can decide not to be a jackass; yet you'll always be you, which is a greedy, selfish, ungrateful, egotistical, idiot.
Yes but THIS is THE reason linux is not ready for the desktop.
Wrong. Linux is ready for the desktop for many, many people. It's used daily by many, including my self. It's perfectly able to run a desktop. Desktop use and the specifics given above have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Let me be clear, MythTV != Desktop.
Now then, the biggest reason Linux isn't ready for the masses' desktop is simple. People know what they know and Linux isn't what they know. Simple fact is, companies like IBM, Redhat, SuSU, Novel, Oracle, and many others have made sure Linux has been polished. It's ready for the desktop, by in large. This is not to say every element of Linux is polished, but even Windows has many, many, areas which just plain suck. These days, the only reason Linux isn't "ready for the desktop" is because it's not Windows; and of course, the ignorance, like yours, which goes with that mentality.
Its amazing how much simpler it is to install an application when you don't have to look up all this obscure variables about your system.
I agree...which makes me wonder what Windows application you're thinking about. Simple fact is, Linux has been easier to install than Windws for years now. Simple fact is, Linux applications, those supported commercially, have been equally easy to install as Windows applications. It's fairly obvious, either your Linux knowledge is 5-years stale, or you've failed to re-evaluate to see if your opinion should be changed. Hell, most Linux distributions allow for remote repositories of the entire distribution allowing for easy installation, from a friggen GUI, without the use of a CD. That's more than Windows offers. I mean, come on...you're an anachronism of Linux knowledge.
Both you and the grandparent posts are wrong. The applications have simply not been polished because they don't have to be. There is a world of difference between an application developed for resale and an application developed for ones own use. The first is polished while the second is rough around the edges. This has zero to do with "Linux mentality". It has everything to do with the fact that these people are not paid to develop an application for end users; let alone get paid.
If it's difficult to use, don't use it. If, on the other hand, you insist on using it, all the while crying like a baby, get off your lazy ass and polish it your self. There really is no in between here. Either stop complaining and fix it, or don't use it. Which solution will you pick?
Since you're already complaining and ignorantly calling this "Linux mentality", I can only assume you have no intension of fixing the issue. Tell me something, do you flip people off and call them names when you get a birdthday card with less than $100 cash in it too?;) Obviously, that's a joke, but it's the same mentality that you're presenting here. Notice how someone that would do such a thing comes off looking like a real jack ass? It applies here too.
If you want to talk about someone's mentality, perhaps you should start a little closer to home first.
Fair enough...but I was not intending that statement to mean it's a server OS. I meant it to mean exactly what I said. That is, XP is nowhere near ready for server duty. Your statement only reaffirms that position.
The claim you make that XP is head and shoulders above their previous efforts makes me wonder about how much windows experience you have had. 2000 is generally considered the best version MS ever put out, with XP just being 2000 with some eye candy added.
LOL. I've been using Windows since before it was available as a stand alone product. That is to say, back when it came bundled with the early versions of Word and Excel (Win 2.0? Anyone remember?). I've programmed on DOS (many versions), Win3.1, Win3.11, OS/2 (many versions), Linux (since the 0.x kernel days), Unix, VxWorks, NT 3.51 (including on DEC Alphas; and was one of the first users of the DEC Alpha/PC - before they were even released), NT 4.0, Win2000, etc...etc..etc... I have little doubt my windows and other OS experience far, far exceeds your own.
ou did something very wrong.
Statements like this, when the topic is MS software crashing, only shows serious ignorance of the speaker. Seriously.
Your first statement confuses me. You imply that you "had" to reinstall XP, but then claim that since you run linux, you had to remove it from your machine before you reached the 30 day mark?
Not so hard to figure out. Install 2-OSs on one box. Run one OS and reboot. Now run the other for a while. Reboot when you want to run the first OS. See, there's something called dual boot...heck...even boot managers that let you run multiple OS's on one box. In other words, the calendar time was about 30-days. The time the OS had to actually run was more like two weeks, give or take a couple of days.
I'll ignore the fact that this is a troll post...but oh well.
Oh, and 3D card drivers tend to suck horribly for Linux
Not sure where you get your information. There really are only two options under Linux. One is NVIDIA, the other is ATI. ATI sucks under Linux. NVIDIA rocks under Linux. If you know a Linux user trying to use their box for 3D stuff and they are not using NVIDIA, they're an idiot. If on the other hand, you think NVIDIA on Linux "sucks horribly", you're clueless.
Having said that, I'm not a hard core gamer, but I have no trouble playing games on Linux. But then again, I'm not a hard core gamer either....then then again...no one in the this thread compared Linux and Windows as a game platform...oh ya...you, the troll, did.
I wish. I didn't even get two months before I had to reinstall it. More like thirty days. Worse, I mostly run Linux so it's not like XP even had anywhere near 30-days on my box before I had to reinstall it.
Having said that, XP is the most stable OS MS has ever released and it is heads and shoulders above their previous efforts. It's still no where near Linux for server stability, but it is certainly very useable for casual desktop and gamer use.
We're not done yet, however -- quality will continue to improve.
Then by definition, they don't have a "RC" product. RC = Release Candidate. If they know things are hosed, by definition, this isn't an RC release! Sure wish Microsoft could learn to do simple things like count, use common sense, use industry standard terminiology...and stop pushing alpha releases to the public...because that's what this is!
Expect to get clobbered. There are people that honestly think only Satan and his brother would dare to use a blacklist. People can become insanely, irrational on the topic. Beware.
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I actually posted that comment as a very dry joke. Obviously it was too dry. I figured everyone was on the same page and it would be see for the obvious fish hook it is. You've seemingly gone beyond the comment in an interesting way. I find it interesting that you feel the President is forcing Iran and North Korea to become nuclear powers given that they both started their efforts before 9/11. In other words, they want to become nuclear powers for reasons strictly of their own accord rather than any heavy handed tactics by the US.
In fact, for a decard or two, it has been feared Iran would become a nuclear power because of their extremist views and hatrid of all things sane. The US is not forcing any country to become a nuclear power. Period. In fact, if Iran would walk away from their stupidity, little to no conflict, aside from traditional politics would remain. The US knows this. Iran knows this. The world knows this.
In short, to suggest anyone is forcing Iran or NK to become nuclear powers is wholely ignoring the facts surrounding the situation.
That's on purpose! Making jokes does not contribute to a discussion. Thusly, if it is funny, others may want to see it but getting points for not contributing to the subject matter just doesn't make sense.
Sorry, -100 insightful for you.
I was making a joke given the recent media blitz on the subject matter. Sorry, I should have ended it with a smiley or such.
Who are these moderators and where do they come from? The post was obviously "funny" and not "insightful". Do these moderators actually think the mars rovers were created by aliens? If the rovers were not created by aliens, then I think it's safe to say, human traffic exists on Mars.
To bad we can't meta moderate the moderators as "moron". Seriously guys...the poster has a friggen smiley face after his comment! What other clues do you guys require to figure things out. Are critical thinking skills no longer taught in school? And yes I'm cranky...I'm tired of constantly meta moderating posts which are obvious to anyone with a brain, incorrectly moderated.
And for the record 10Hgz, I thought your comment was funny...as you intended. Keep it up!
while using them in defense is unlikely to be neccessary since no one's likely to be stupid enough to attack a nuclear power.
Hey! The US President threatened Pakistan and they are a neclear power! Just what are you trying to say?
Was Stephen Falken suppose to be Steven Hawking? Was Steven Hawking even known back then? Anyone know? When I was old enough to know who Steven Hawking was, I've always wondered if that is who that character was based on. In name only perhaps?
That's shockingly reasonable of them.
Not really. While many FAA rules don't make sense, there is always a pragmatist's undertone present. They know if they make it too hard people will simply take their chances which may result in a crackdown on the FAA (or CAA in this case) for not doing their job, should the worst happen. Thusly, in the light of self preservation, they make it easy so NOTAMS can be issues, thusly shifting the burden from the hobbiests, to the agency, to the pilots to avoid hitting the object. At that point, everyone is happy; the lanuch site is legal, the FAA/CAA is legal and insulated, and the pilot's must make sure they "see and avoid" all the time anyways.
With your crack pipe in hand...I'm amazed you can find your keyboard...let alone actually hit keys....
Moron.
Hopefully someone will mod you funny. I actually heard Bender's voice in my head the first time I read that post. And no, I normally don't hear voices in my head. ;)
Clueless!
Windows and *nix have completely different philosophies of design, and generally the changes between releases of Windows are fairly small.
This has nothing to do with Unix vs Windows philosophies. If it did, OS/X would be included in that comment. Don't forget, OS/X is Unix made perty. Proof that you're an idiot and have no idea what you're talking about.
Regardless of what you consider "fairly small", the reality is pretty far from your delusional world. Having said that, most of the training goes for others like admins. Your typical user mostly, won't notice...which is true for Linux users too. Which is to say, your typical desktop user, will have zero trouble adapting to use Linux. Having said that, admin certainly differs and this is where training typically requires the most effort; Windows, Unix or Linux. Frankly, your typical user won't notice any functional difference in the desktop but will in the applications.
On a side note, assholes like you are the reason why Linux will never make it on the desktop; Apple and Microsoft will dominate desktops for the immediate future. Perhaps one day when your kind have all went to their graves, Linux will have a chance (but I doubt it).
Yet more proof you're a moron. Linux is already making it as a desktop. Apple is already making it as a desktop. Between the two, we have yet more proof that you're an absolute idiot. Oddly enough, you seem to be hanging everything on my shoulders. When in reality, people like me (realist) telling people like you (morons) how the world works, is not helping or hurting Linux one way or the other. Frankly, the fact that Linux works differently, and you're angry about it, is yet more proof that you're an idiot.
There's an article somewhere out there that basically says Windows != Linux; go read that,
Yet more proof, that you're an idiot. Linux != Windows, which was my whole fucking point you retard! Now, if you want to argue Linux will be slow to adopt because it's not Windows, that's fine... After all, that was my whole fucking point.
Yes, it's true. I'm not in law enforcement but know people. Likewise, not long ago on TV I saw a video of a cop going through his taser training. Seems the instructor had only just completed his training too. As a result, the instructor forget to properly elevate the taser to account for the rapid sink in the darts. As a result, the copy got a taser dart in the nuts. Worse, the instructor and other cops standing around started laughing their asses off...all the while, forgetting to turn off the taser. So while the other cops are all laughing, this poor guy is flopping around like a fish on a not tin roof.
Needless to say, I seriously doubt that cop will forget what a taser feels like.
And yes, pepper spray is also tested.
So you won't even be upgrading your OS to MS' next and greatest? If not, I tip my hat. If you will or ever have upgraded, then you're a lying hypocrite. Smple fact is, you learn new ways to do the same old stuff with just about every release of Windows. This is one of many reasons why companies are often slow to adopt; training. Gasp! Yet according to you, common sense is all everyone needs and no one had to learn windows in the first place because it's all intuitive; which is 100% contrary to what useability studies say.
I'm sorry, but you're completely unrealistic and way out in left field. In other words, it's okay if you have to learn what MS does, but if it's a non-Windows platform then you'll cry and run to mommy about how the big, bad alternate desktop made you learn something again. Get real.
Nuff said. If you don't get it as this point...you never will.
Then you're not remembering correctly. Turns out they follow their internal compass, flying in a "zig-zag" mannor, to locate landmarks. Seems they *might* also use the sun as a cross reference with their compass.
So in other words, they use their compass and sun to determine the general direction they should fly. They then fly around in that general direction until they locate landmarks they know. Once they have located known landmarks, their seeking zig-zag pattern stops and they start flying a more "as the crow flies" path.
You analogy is fairly broken. You 100% made exactly my point. You are incorrectly assuming that all the worlds vehicles function like a car. Surprise! They don't. Perhaps you've heard of tractors? Piston airplanes? Jet airplanes? Boats? Semi-trucks? Tanks? Ships? They are all vehicles (an OS) but each is operated slightly differently. Thusly, if you jump into a plane and expect to operate it as a car, you're going to crash and burn. So yes, if you stop unreasonbly assuming the world must bend to your whim, you'll be a lot happier in life. Guess what, people are not going to redesign airplanes so you can drive it like a car. And their refusal to not engage such stupidity does not make them egotistical, stupid, or difficult. Guess what, people are not going to redesign their OS so that it works like Windows. Get over it. Get over your ego. Guess what, Windows' interface really isn't that great...which is why people are trying different things.
The fact that you proved exactly my point and yet it went WAY over your heard, pretty well proves the problem is 100% between the computer and chair. In the end, you need to realize the world is not going to implement a lessor system, for the sake of bending to your whim. Get over your self and stop complaining about how lazy you are. Surprise, no one wants to hear it.
Lastly, given the above analogy, you didn't spring from your mother knowing how to operate a car anymore than you knew how to operate Microsoft's Windows. You needed to learn to operate Windows just as you need to learn to operate Linux. Tihs is not the least bit unreasonable. The sooner you cope with reality, the happier you'll be.
It sounds like you took something out of context. The application domain greatly impacts how you can go about scaling. Adding a box to a cluster only helps with certain types of problem domains. In some cases, it helps a lot. In other cases, it can actually hurt performance. As a rule of thumb, clustered programming is trickier than SMP programming. Not to mention, clusters are far less common that are SMP solutions.
Really, the limiting factor for SMP right now is the lack of application support. The secondary issue is, in my experience, the vast majority of programmers have no idea how to go about effecitvely using multiple threads unless the problem can be neatly addressed by a consumer/producer model. And guess what...a lot of problems don't fit well with that solution. Thus we have a nasty cycle of one feeding into the other.
Your quoting is confusing. I never said that so I'm assuming you did.
...oh...over there too...and oh...there too...when in reality, one need only look in the mirror to find the real problem. Get off your lazy, worthless, butt and stop expected the world to bend to your whim. The world doesn't work like that...why would you expect Linux to be any different. It's childish and dumb to believe otherwise.
Face it: the problem will always be the user for you people.
If by "you people", you mean Linux users, you would be 100% wrong. In fact, such a statement only shows contempt and ignorance. If by "you people", you mean people that actually perform usability studies as a living, then you would be right. The common theme that keeps coming up is that 1, windows is far from intuitive (it's a learned skill), and 2, if an OS is not like Windows, people desperately resist it; assuming they are already Windows users. People that have not been previously biased by Windows, seem to pick up Linux equally fast as Windows. Hmmm...what does that tell you. These FACTS can be summerized by saying, "People know what they know and Linux isn't what they know." In other words, you LEARNED windows....so why is it unreasonable to expect someone to LEARN Linux? It's odd how everyone has to point that a problem is over there and
In other words, it's obvious you're rather ignorant on the topic which begs the question...why are you commenting on a topic where it should be very obvious to even your self, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Simple fact is, for people that stop crying like little spoiled children and get off their lazy ass to learn a new OS, using Linux is trivial. For idiots and lazy dolts that expect the world to bend over and hand it to them, everything is difficult...except complaining and crying. Hell, my wife (who is far, far, far from technical) picked up Linux in less than an hour as a user. I'm sorry, but if you can't pick up Linux in less than 1-days effort (as a user), you're dumb as a door knob. And no amount of tweaking to Linux is going to change that. Dumb is dumb, regardless of which OS you run.
Of course you are the kind of elitist asshole who doesn't want anybody to be able to learn without it being made as difficult as possible to do so,
Neurotic much? What crack are you on? Do you have any concept of reality? What did I say that made me elitist; facts of the reality we live in? Are you that removed from reality? Learning should not be hard. Most things Linux these days, is not hard to learn. Furthermore, what did I say that indicated even one iota that I believe things should be hard?
Claiming that the software is as good as it needs to be, and that people should be forced to choose between a pointlessly long learning curve that exists solely as an initiation to the Loyal Order of Basement Dwellers, or not using a piece of software at all, is idiotic.
According to your stupidity, all hobbiest, which make their works available for other hobbiests, are assholes. In the real world, well, the world where idiots and dolts DO NOT live, either say thank you and take the contirbution, or pass because it's beyond them. What an idiot you are.
Do you understand at all that these are NOT paid employees? Do you understand that you're an idiot? Do you understand that you're a greedy, selfish, idiot? Do you understand that you're a greedy, selfish, ungrateful, idiot? According to your retarded logic, hobbiests, which kindly allow other hobbiests to benefit from their time and energy, are assholes because you're too lazy and/or too stupid to understand their contribution? What a self righteous, egocentric, moron you are. Wow, I didn't realize you were so important. Seems, in your little world, everyone's free time is yours to dictate! What a prick!
A properly-constructed interface makes EVERYBODY more productive, but it makes pseudo-intellectual pricks like you disposible.
NO, it doesn't! The fact that you said that idicates you're a clueless, idiot. The fact that you're obviously much dumber than I 1, indicates you're not in a position to rank my intellectual capacity, and 2, as "pseudo-intelligent" as I am, you're still many, many rungs below me. Either way, it doesn't look good for you.
The FACT of the matter is, writing a slick interface takes a fair bit of time. Time which can be otherwise spent satisfying the intellectual needs which spawned the creation of the software in the first place. Let's see, which would anyone with half a brain do: 1, code because they want to, exploring and extending the features that are important to them, or 2, write lots of code to make an interface to satisfy some prick that thinks everyone works for him. Obviously, you think the answer is 2, which proves you're a greedy, selfish, ungrateful, egotistical, idiot.
Being a jackass yourself is no excuse. I, and doubtless many others, take great comfort in the fact that you will likely never reproduce.
I may be a jackass, but at least I'm not you. I can safely say, anyone with an IQ higher than 60 can easily see you're talking about your self. At the end of the day, I can decide not to be a jackass; yet you'll always be you, which is a greedy, selfish, ungrateful, egotistical, idiot.
Yes but THIS is THE reason linux is not ready for the desktop.
Wrong. Linux is ready for the desktop for many, many people. It's used daily by many, including my self. It's perfectly able to run a desktop. Desktop use and the specifics given above have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Let me be clear, MythTV != Desktop.
Now then, the biggest reason Linux isn't ready for the masses' desktop is simple. People know what they know and Linux isn't what they know. Simple fact is, companies like IBM, Redhat, SuSU, Novel, Oracle, and many others have made sure Linux has been polished. It's ready for the desktop, by in large. This is not to say every element of Linux is polished, but even Windows has many, many, areas which just plain suck. These days, the only reason Linux isn't "ready for the desktop" is because it's not Windows; and of course, the ignorance, like yours, which goes with that mentality.
Its amazing how much simpler it is to install an application when you don't have to look up all this obscure variables about your system.
I agree...which makes me wonder what Windows application you're thinking about. Simple fact is, Linux has been easier to install than Windws for years now. Simple fact is, Linux applications, those supported commercially, have been equally easy to install as Windows applications. It's fairly obvious, either your Linux knowledge is 5-years stale, or you've failed to re-evaluate to see if your opinion should be changed. Hell, most Linux distributions allow for remote repositories of the entire distribution allowing for easy installation, from a friggen GUI, without the use of a CD. That's more than Windows offers. I mean, come on...you're an anachronism of Linux knowledge.
The long of the short, you are wrong.
Both you and the grandparent posts are wrong. The applications have simply not been polished because they don't have to be. There is a world of difference between an application developed for resale and an application developed for ones own use. The first is polished while the second is rough around the edges. This has zero to do with "Linux mentality". It has everything to do with the fact that these people are not paid to develop an application for end users; let alone get paid.
;) Obviously, that's a joke, but it's the same mentality that you're presenting here. Notice how someone that would do such a thing comes off looking like a real jack ass? It applies here too.
If it's difficult to use, don't use it. If, on the other hand, you insist on using it, all the while crying like a baby, get off your lazy ass and polish it your self. There really is no in between here. Either stop complaining and fix it, or don't use it. Which solution will you pick?
Since you're already complaining and ignorantly calling this "Linux mentality", I can only assume you have no intension of fixing the issue. Tell me something, do you flip people off and call them names when you get a birdthday card with less than $100 cash in it too?
If you want to talk about someone's mentality, perhaps you should start a little closer to home first.
Fair enough...but I was not intending that statement to mean it's a server OS. I meant it to mean exactly what I said. That is, XP is nowhere near ready for server duty. Your statement only reaffirms that position.
The claim you make that XP is head and shoulders above their previous efforts makes me wonder about how much windows experience you have had. 2000 is generally considered the best version MS ever put out, with XP just being 2000 with some eye candy added.
LOL. I've been using Windows since before it was available as a stand alone product. That is to say, back when it came bundled with the early versions of Word and Excel (Win 2.0? Anyone remember?). I've programmed on DOS (many versions), Win3.1, Win3.11, OS/2 (many versions), Linux (since the 0.x kernel days), Unix, VxWorks, NT 3.51 (including on DEC Alphas; and was one of the first users of the DEC Alpha/PC - before they were even released), NT 4.0, Win2000, etc...etc..etc... I have little doubt my windows and other OS experience far, far exceeds your own.
ou did something very wrong.
Statements like this, when the topic is MS software crashing, only shows serious ignorance of the speaker. Seriously.
Your first statement confuses me. You imply that you "had" to reinstall XP, but then claim that since you run linux, you had to remove it from your machine before you reached the 30 day mark?
Not so hard to figure out. Install 2-OSs on one box. Run one OS and reboot. Now run the other for a while. Reboot when you want to run the first OS. See, there's something called dual boot...heck...even boot managers that let you run multiple OS's on one box. In other words, the calendar time was about 30-days. The time the OS had to actually run was more like two weeks, give or take a couple of days.
I'll ignore the fact that this is a troll post...but oh well.
Oh, and 3D card drivers tend to suck horribly for Linux
Not sure where you get your information. There really are only two options under Linux. One is NVIDIA, the other is ATI. ATI sucks under Linux. NVIDIA rocks under Linux. If you know a Linux user trying to use their box for 3D stuff and they are not using NVIDIA, they're an idiot. If on the other hand, you think NVIDIA on Linux "sucks horribly", you're clueless.
Having said that, I'm not a hard core gamer, but I have no trouble playing games on Linux. But then again, I'm not a hard core gamer either....then then again...no one in the this thread compared Linux and Windows as a game platform...oh ya...you, the troll, did.
I wish. I didn't even get two months before I had to reinstall it. More like thirty days. Worse, I mostly run Linux so it's not like XP even had anywhere near 30-days on my box before I had to reinstall it.
Having said that, XP is the most stable OS MS has ever released and it is heads and shoulders above their previous efforts. It's still no where near Linux for server stability, but it is certainly very useable for casual desktop and gamer use.
We're not done yet, however -- quality will continue to improve.
Then by definition, they don't have a "RC" product. RC = Release Candidate. If they know things are hosed, by definition, this isn't an RC release! Sure wish Microsoft could learn to do simple things like count, use common sense, use industry standard terminiology...and stop pushing alpha releases to the public...because that's what this is!
Dolts!
Expect to get clobbered. There are people that honestly think only Satan and his brother would dare to use a blacklist. People can become insanely, irrational on the topic. Beware.