Question for 100: Who will now that this talk is not being held have the information, and who will not have it?
The same (good and bad) people have it without the talk, but the rest of the world does not. Although the risk level is still there, it's not increased. If TFA is correct and Siemens is working on a fix, then what's wrong with giving them the time they need and/or working with them?
If you don't fall for it, you're not loading the site to begin with. Yet alone checking the address bar. If we were arguing about the status bar showing the link, then I'd be right there with you. I do use the status bar frequently to check links. And I don't follow links to sites that I know I'm going to log in to (forums, facebook, etc. ).
You call yourself a text-based/CLI person, yet you're complaining there's no clickable dropdown menu for chrome? Control-T for new tab (focus goes to address bar) or Control-L to put focus in the address bar and start typing the website that you want. Since you're a text person, you know. Pretty sure websites are autocomplete for commonly used ones and a dropdown listing appears with others that you can scroll down to and select with the arrow keys. I would hope that Control-L still shows the address bar whether it's hidden or not in the new version.
Or just add your 12 sites as bookmarks and they show up on the start page. Two clicks or Control-T and one click or start typing the name...
What are you bitching about? That every browser doesn't have an icon in the exact same place that performs the exact same functionality so you don't have to use a slightly different method even though it takes up the same amount of time to do so? How did people like you migrate off of Windows 3.1 and handle all of the change?!?!
You aren't alone. Squeaky wheels and all that. I'm just as functional using Unity as I was with a dropdown menu.
The only issue I had wasn't Unity related. My PCIe wireless card in my desktop would drop out after several minutes to an hour and not reconnect. So I stuck with 10.10 on that machine, but 11.04 is running great on my netbook (2d unity) and my other two laptops. Kids picked it up quick, too, so it was barely a change for them (they never even asked me about it).
HD may be physically easy to upgrade, but it's a lot of work to either copy everything over correctly or reinstall. HDs are always the last thing I want to touch.
I'm on a Pentium M 1.8Ghz machine now that I was about ready to throw out. I got curious and checked the RAM and there was only 512MB. I thought I had bought it with more than that, but my memory was pretty bad, obviously. Upgraded to the max 2GB and have breathed another couple of years of life into the machine.
I'm a "computer guy" so I knew that RAM made a difference, but I hadn't ever experienced a RAM only upgrade that showed SO MUCH improvement. I run the network simulation tool GNS3 and it would not run at all before. Now I can have several routers running OSPF, BGP, etc. while I write Python scripts to poll them or whatever and it all works great.
Preaching to the choir here (you'd think), but spend the money on RAM, not a couple hundred MHz.
The summary claims that one rule is to pay for more RAM over better processor. That sounds like poor advice...
This isn't for people that'll upgrade RAM, HD or processors later. This is for folks clicking through the "customize this" dialog on the Dell website. I picked a random XPS 8300 for $700, for example. You can upgrade from an i5-2300 (6MB, 2.8GHz) to a i5-2500 (6MB, 3.3GHz) for $140. Or you can go from 4GB to 8GB of RAM for the same $140.
This article is saying, and I agree, that for most people, they're going to get more out of spending the money on RAM versus a couple hundred MHz.
If you're (hopefully) smart enough to price out processors, RAM, etc. and do a little research, you're no longer going by the rule of thumb. You'll realize you can get both, if you spend smartly over time or build/upgrade things yourself.
For example - "Pay for RAM, not speed. The speed of the computer chip does not matter; the attention-span or RAM memory does matter."
Totally wrong.
Remember the audience. This is for people clicking through the customize options on the Dell website. Do they go with the i3 at $550 or the i5 at $650? Do they go with the i3 and 4GB of RAM for $550 or 6GB of RAM $610.If someone's going to spend the money, I think most people would get more out of the additional RAM than a processor upgrade. That's what TFA is getting at. In reality, the plane old i3 with 4GB is going to be more than enough for most people.
If you're willing to do a little research, you're not the target audience for a rule of thumb.
This sounds pretty damn immersive to me. Instead of listening to the words, you have to evaluate their facial expressions and body languages to decide if you believe what they're saying. Sounds like you really have to be the character, analyze surroundings, separate fact from fiction, etc. in order to find a solution.
Obviously it won't be for everyone, though. I don't know that it sounds that appealing to me, personally.
If Zediva is indeed buying physical copies and controlling the rentals such that the amount out available for streaming matches their physical count, I don't see how they could be in violation. I didn't RTFA, obviously, and once lawyers are involved, all common sense is out the window, though...
I guess you could interpret a user upgrading as feedback that the application is "good enough" for the user to justify spending money on. That's feedback on some level. Not that I want to help these fuckers, but that could be how they're viewing it.
I agree. From my reading, it seems like they patented getting feedback for an application from within the application itself. The prior art listed is "distributed" feedback through marketing, on-line surveys, etc.
There is a warning icon if you have capslock on. I think previous versions of the OS or login manager put actual text under the password portion warning you if the capslock key was on.
My kids never blinked an eye after I upgraded all of our machines to 11.04. Most "normal" friends/family are just hitting an icon on the launcher anyhow, versus hitting an icon on Docky, the desktop or a panel.
> -scrollbars that are hidden until you move to a specific position near the side of a window
Depends on the application or maybe they're just not "updated" to use the new scrollbars. Firefox and Thunderbird show old style scrollbars. Even in the new style, the scroll position is still shown, it's just much thinner.
> -typing and searching for applications that you don't know are there
Or click on the Applications icon on the launch bar and see everything that's installed. You can choose application types to show, too, like Games, Internet Apps, etc. in the dropdown. Or right-click on the Applications icon in the launcher to choose a category.
> -hold down Alt or log out in order to be able to shut down the computer?
Is this LightDM specific? I just choose the "power button" icon in the top right and choose Shutdown. Am I missing something?
Just curious if you apply the same skepticism to each leaked cable and Iraq/Afg document? Couldn't some of those be plants? Either by the US or even by Wikileaks?
I can't find a copy of the publisher/iBookstore agreement, but this and many other pages seem to indicate that the agreement sets prices at 70% across the board and it wasn't some uncorrelated decision by the top publishers.
If it's so stupid to take 50% instead of 70%, why did they agree to it in the first place? Also having it fixed at 70% means their possibly losing money based on the 75%, 80%, etc. deals they had previously to the agency model.
Is the requirements on publishers for being listed in iBooks a part of the iOS Developer's Agreement? If so, I'll search it out and give it a read.
If publishers just up and decided, independent of Apple, that they suddenly want 70% and won't negotiate, then I guess there's no issue here. Obviously the view in one-sided in the TFA, but that's not how it's being presented. That's why I wanted opposing views.
It's not Apple's store. It's an in-App purchase through the application developer's store. I guess Apple still processes the purchase, so it's fine if they want take a cut. In this case, for ebooks specifically, they've fixed the purchase and sale price (through contracts with the publishers to get into iBooks) such that other ebook retailers can not make a profit on iOS. in-App purchases for other products do not have the same restrictions or price fixing.
Read the rest of the rules. The agreement is for publishers to get their books into iBooks, but it also puts stipulations on how publishers deal with other ebook retailers (or agents).
Of course not, although I have no idea what the market shares are. Even though there are other devices, Apple is using it's market power with publishers to ensure other retailers get ZERO profit when books are sold through iOS applications in competition with Apple. Only books, btw. Other products sold in-App may have to give 30% to Apple (I don't know that they do or not), but they can adjust their purchase (development) and sale costs to ensure they still maintain a profit. Apple (according to all this) has restricted ebook sellers from doing the same.
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The same (good and bad) people have it without the talk, but the rest of the world does not. Although the risk level is still there, it's not increased. If TFA is correct and Siemens is working on a fix, then what's wrong with giving them the time they need and/or working with them?
If you don't fall for it, you're not loading the site to begin with. Yet alone checking the address bar. If we were arguing about the status bar showing the link, then I'd be right there with you. I do use the status bar frequently to check links. And I don't follow links to sites that I know I'm going to log in to (forums, facebook, etc. ).
You call yourself a text-based/CLI person, yet you're complaining there's no clickable dropdown menu for chrome? Control-T for new tab (focus goes to address bar) or Control-L to put focus in the address bar and start typing the website that you want. Since you're a text person, you know. Pretty sure websites are autocomplete for commonly used ones and a dropdown listing appears with others that you can scroll down to and select with the arrow keys. I would hope that Control-L still shows the address bar whether it's hidden or not in the new version.
Or just add your 12 sites as bookmarks and they show up on the start page. Two clicks or Control-T and one click or start typing the name...
What are you bitching about? That every browser doesn't have an icon in the exact same place that performs the exact same functionality so you don't have to use a slightly different method even though it takes up the same amount of time to do so? How did people like you migrate off of Windows 3.1 and handle all of the change?!?!
Oh please... the fucking idiots that fall for that shit aren't checking the address bar to begin with.
You aren't alone. Squeaky wheels and all that. I'm just as functional using Unity as I was with a dropdown menu.
The only issue I had wasn't Unity related. My PCIe wireless card in my desktop would drop out after several minutes to an hour and not reconnect. So I stuck with 10.10 on that machine, but 11.04 is running great on my netbook (2d unity) and my other two laptops. Kids picked it up quick, too, so it was barely a change for them (they never even asked me about it).
HD may be physically easy to upgrade, but it's a lot of work to either copy everything over correctly or reinstall. HDs are always the last thing I want to touch.
I'm on a Pentium M 1.8Ghz machine now that I was about ready to throw out. I got curious and checked the RAM and there was only 512MB. I thought I had bought it with more than that, but my memory was pretty bad, obviously. Upgraded to the max 2GB and have breathed another couple of years of life into the machine.
I'm a "computer guy" so I knew that RAM made a difference, but I hadn't ever experienced a RAM only upgrade that showed SO MUCH improvement. I run the network simulation tool GNS3 and it would not run at all before. Now I can have several routers running OSPF, BGP, etc. while I write Python scripts to poll them or whatever and it all works great.
Preaching to the choir here (you'd think), but spend the money on RAM, not a couple hundred MHz.
This isn't for people that'll upgrade RAM, HD or processors later. This is for folks clicking through the "customize this" dialog on the Dell website. I picked a random XPS 8300 for $700, for example. You can upgrade from an i5-2300 (6MB, 2.8GHz) to a i5-2500 (6MB, 3.3GHz) for $140. Or you can go from 4GB to 8GB of RAM for the same $140.
This article is saying, and I agree, that for most people, they're going to get more out of spending the money on RAM versus a couple hundred MHz.
If you're (hopefully) smart enough to price out processors, RAM, etc. and do a little research, you're no longer going by the rule of thumb. You'll realize you can get both, if you spend smartly over time or build/upgrade things yourself.
Remember the audience. This is for people clicking through the customize options on the Dell website. Do they go with the i3 at $550 or the i5 at $650? Do they go with the i3 and 4GB of RAM for $550 or 6GB of RAM $610.If someone's going to spend the money, I think most people would get more out of the additional RAM than a processor upgrade. That's what TFA is getting at. In reality, the plane old i3 with 4GB is going to be more than enough for most people.
If you're willing to do a little research, you're not the target audience for a rule of thumb.
This sounds pretty damn immersive to me. Instead of listening to the words, you have to evaluate their facial expressions and body languages to decide if you believe what they're saying. Sounds like you really have to be the character, analyze surroundings, separate fact from fiction, etc. in order to find a solution.
Obviously it won't be for everyone, though. I don't know that it sounds that appealing to me, personally.
If Zediva is indeed buying physical copies and controlling the rentals such that the amount out available for streaming matches their physical count, I don't see how they could be in violation. I didn't RTFA, obviously, and once lawyers are involved, all common sense is out the window, though...
I guess you could interpret a user upgrading as feedback that the application is "good enough" for the user to justify spending money on. That's feedback on some level. Not that I want to help these fuckers, but that could be how they're viewing it.
I agree. From my reading, it seems like they patented getting feedback for an application from within the application itself. The prior art listed is "distributed" feedback through marketing, on-line surveys, etc.
There is a warning icon if you have capslock on. I think previous versions of the OS or login manager put actual text under the password portion warning you if the capslock key was on.
My kids never blinked an eye after I upgraded all of our machines to 11.04. Most "normal" friends/family are just hitting an icon on the launcher anyhow, versus hitting an icon on Docky, the desktop or a panel.
> -scrollbars that are hidden until you move to a specific position near the side of a window
Depends on the application or maybe they're just not "updated" to use the new scrollbars. Firefox and Thunderbird show old style scrollbars. Even in the new style, the scroll position is still shown, it's just much thinner.
> -typing and searching for applications that you don't know are there
Or click on the Applications icon on the launch bar and see everything that's installed. You can choose application types to show, too, like Games, Internet Apps, etc. in the dropdown. Or right-click on the Applications icon in the launcher to choose a category.
> -hold down Alt or log out in order to be able to shut down the computer?
Is this LightDM specific? I just choose the "power button" icon in the top right and choose Shutdown. Am I missing something?
Just curious if you apply the same skepticism to each leaked cable and Iraq/Afg document? Couldn't some of those be plants? Either by the US or even by Wikileaks?
Whistleblowing is something I support, but the data dump that someone exposed is not whistleblowing.
Yeah, it is capitalism. I wasn't thinking right. It's also anti-competitive, imo.
This is what I was getting at. Is the Agency Model a Clear Case of Price-Fixing Collusion? A Closer Look at the Possibility of Antitrust Action in the Courts
I can't find a copy of the publisher/iBookstore agreement, but this and many other pages seem to indicate that the agreement sets prices at 70% across the board and it wasn't some uncorrelated decision by the top publishers.
If it's so stupid to take 50% instead of 70%, why did they agree to it in the first place? Also having it fixed at 70% means their possibly losing money based on the 75%, 80%, etc. deals they had previously to the agency model.
Is the requirements on publishers for being listed in iBooks a part of the iOS Developer's Agreement? If so, I'll search it out and give it a read.
If publishers just up and decided, independent of Apple, that they suddenly want 70% and won't negotiate, then I guess there's no issue here. Obviously the view in one-sided in the TFA, but that's not how it's being presented. That's why I wanted opposing views.
Yeah, I guess that's right. Label it what you want, I still think it's anti-competitive.
It's not Apple's store. It's an in-App purchase through the application developer's store. I guess Apple still processes the purchase, so it's fine if they want take a cut. In this case, for ebooks specifically, they've fixed the purchase and sale price (through contracts with the publishers to get into iBooks) such that other ebook retailers can not make a profit on iOS. in-App purchases for other products do not have the same restrictions or price fixing.
That's anti-competitive, imo.
Read the rest of the rules. The agreement is for publishers to get their books into iBooks, but it also puts stipulations on how publishers deal with other ebook retailers (or agents).
Of course not, although I have no idea what the market shares are. Even though there are other devices, Apple is using it's market power with publishers to ensure other retailers get ZERO profit when books are sold through iOS applications in competition with Apple. Only books, btw. Other products sold in-App may have to give 30% to Apple (I don't know that they do or not), but they can adjust their purchase (development) and sale costs to ensure they still maintain a profit. Apple (according to all this) has restricted ebook sellers from doing the same.