Could I please invite you to the following forum to discuss and gain knowledge about religion, culture, social issues of India? (You will need a userid and password - all free)
I see lot of assumptions on non-Indians' part. I don't really think that any of the India's social problems or patterns has anything to do with work place culture.
We have to remember that lot of Indians in last few years are suddenly dealing with all kinds of people from Americas and Europe. A guy or a gal who has never been out of India is now discussing busniess cases with people from across the world. This is what Information age is all about, delaings can be done from anywhere in the world to anywhere in the world.
IMO, its a laerning process for all involved, I can see Indians are observing people they deal with, they are trying to understand in their own way.
Most of the team sitting and not talking during a VC is because of a reason. May be most of them are simply getting adjusted to "how" factor when it comes to a customer from Europe or Australia or US.... it takes time to learn to deal with all kinds of people from different parts of the world.
If you are dealing with a team from India, who has already worked on number of projects from number of different markets, I can almost gurantee that your experience will be VERY positive. I cannot say the same thing for the team who is dealing with a foreign customer for first or second time.
Somebody commented: "... caste system is so strong, that you can tell what caste a person belongs to just by looking @ him..."
Above is simply not true, almost very comic!
Anyway, I think you should put this talks about caste system away when dealing with professionals from India.
I am sure Americans wouldn't like to discuss racism, KKK, MI militia and all the rednecks in US when dealing with Indians, same way Americans(or anybody) shouldn't worry about caste system while doing business with Indian companies. Every country and society has their own set of problems, doesn't matter whether you are from US or India!
Go away you British bitch! and take your moronic assumptions about Buddhism and Hindu philosophy with you... don't spread the misinformation, it will hurt you!
And by the way, don't come to India for any medical treatment!
Now Nepal was then part of India and even today Nepal is only Hindu country in the whole world. And please don't tell me that Nepal is closer to Japan when compared to India. Than you need a lesson in Geography as well. Siddharaha (later known as Gautam Buddha) was a Hindu prince.
When did I say "Buddhism is Hinduism"? I said Buddhism is a branch of Hindu philosophy, can you understand the difference, dummy?
Not same, but similar to when a christian coverts and becomes jew, hindu can and are free to convert to buddhism, nothing not even Hinduism itself stops them from doing so.
And listen moron, I am an Indian first, and a proud one and than I am a Hindu who respects all other religions!
while Buddhism states that there is no real "God", and Hinduism has many Gods/Demigods (Vishnu, Bramha, Shiva, Ganesh, just to name a few.)
You are wrong.
<b>There are Nine branches of Hindu philosophy,- Six are theistic ( Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Sankhya, Yoga, Vedanta, Mimamsa) and three are atheistic ( Jaina, Buddhism, Charvaka ).</b><P>
<i>Buddhism, while created in the Himalayas, has a definite Oriential basis (seems slightly Taoist, escecially in regards to denying the material focuses, and the fact that the Buddha came from either eastern China or Japan, I forget). </i>
<b>Above is a compelete LIE, plain WRONG.</b>
<P>Buddha was a Prince Siddhartha of an eastern state in India. Buddhism was not created in one place. Man you have no idea about this, please please do some research on Hinduism, Buddhism and India, before you misinform people on this site. And this site is FULL of misinformation and lies especially about India, Hinduism and people of India. <P> <P><i>Also, Buddhism doesn't denounce the practice of eating meat, while obviously Hinduism does, even though they both state a reincarnative afterlife. </i> <P><P>One more wrong: There is no document in Hindu philosophy which denounces eating meat. There are only suggestions, its upto an individual to follow it or not.
Manusmrti 11:85: This "Manusmriti" was something written by a king Manu thousands years ago for the people of that time.Its not a Hindu religion document. You have no idea abut today's India and you haven't visited India at all!
Geocities website example: I can write story about any people and country on Geocities website, I can come up examples of American arrogance on personal websites. Have yourself better informed from reliable sources.
India is poor for serious reasons, whatever they are. Those who send jobs to India are trying to erase centuries of cultural failure. Those who outsource to India are trying to get success from a mostly unsuccessful people. If it were all so easy, Indians would make their own country successful, rather than getting money from outside.
India is poor for whatever reasons, but you are rich because you have reaped fruits of free trade so far at the cost of poor countries, now its time for countries like India to reap the fruits, you don't like it, go to hell! Indians are some of the most succesful people and they are doing so from their own money, they are working for the money just like anyother bloke in the world, Indians are not borrowing money from anybody, its American CEOs who are running to India to give them jobs, your problem is your own busniess leaders and management, not India or Indians. You lost your job because of your messed up managers, not because of India!
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I see lot of assumptions on non-Indians' part. I don't really think that any of the India's social problems or patterns has anything to do with work place culture.
.... it takes time to learn to deal with all kinds of people from different parts of the world.
..."
We have to remember that lot of Indians in last few years are suddenly dealing with all kinds of people from Americas and Europe. A guy or a gal who has never been out of India is now discussing busniess cases with people from across the world. This is what Information age is all about, delaings can be done from anywhere in the world to anywhere in the world.
IMO, its a laerning process for all involved, I can see Indians are observing people they deal with, they are trying to understand in their own way.
Most of the team sitting and not talking during a VC is because of a reason. May be most of them are simply getting adjusted to "how" factor when it comes to a customer from Europe or Australia or US
If you are dealing with a team from India, who has already worked on number of projects from number of different markets, I can almost gurantee that your experience will be VERY positive. I cannot say the same thing for the team who is dealing with a foreign customer for first or second time.
Somebody commented: "... caste system is so strong, that you can tell what caste a person belongs to just by looking @ him
Above is simply not true, almost very comic!
Anyway, I think you should put this talks about caste system away when dealing with professionals from India.
I am sure Americans wouldn't like to discuss racism, KKK, MI militia and all the rednecks in US when dealing with Indians, same way Americans(or anybody) shouldn't worry about caste system while doing business with Indian companies. Every country and society has their own set of problems, doesn't matter whether you are from US or India!
Go away you British bitch! and take your moronic assumptions about Buddhism and Hindu philosophy with you ... don't spread the misinformation, it will hurt you!
And by the way, don't come to India for any medical treatment!
What? Everybody in US is unemployed right now, ALL their jobs are gone to India?
Do you even know the percentage of total US population who lost their job because of the screwed up business leaders? Its probably very tiny.
From the same site, go to this link and read the history, Moron:
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http://www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/history/b_c
Now Nepal was then part of India and even today Nepal is only Hindu country in the whole world. And please don't tell me that Nepal is closer to Japan when compared to India. Than you need a lesson in Geography as well. Siddharaha (later known as Gautam Buddha) was a Hindu prince.
When did I say "Buddhism is Hinduism"? I said Buddhism is a branch of Hindu philosophy, can you understand the difference, dummy?
Not same, but similar to when a christian coverts and becomes jew, hindu can and are free to convert to buddhism, nothing not even Hinduism itself stops them from doing so.
And listen moron, I am an Indian first, and a proud one and than I am a Hindu who respects all other religions!
You are wrong.
<b>There are Nine branches of Hindu philosophy,- Six are theistic ( Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Sankhya, Yoga, Vedanta, Mimamsa) and three are atheistic ( Jaina, Buddhism, Charvaka ).</b><P>
<i>Buddhism, while created in the Himalayas, has a definite Oriential basis (seems slightly Taoist, escecially in regards to denying the material focuses, and the fact that the Buddha came from either eastern China or Japan, I forget). </i>
<b>Above is a compelete LIE, plain WRONG.</b>
<P>Buddha was a Prince Siddhartha of an eastern state in India. Buddhism was not created in one place. Man you have no idea about this, please please do some research on Hinduism, Buddhism and India, before you misinform people on this site. And this site is FULL of misinformation and lies especially about India, Hinduism and people of India.
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<P><i>Also, Buddhism doesn't denounce the practice of eating meat, while obviously Hinduism does, even though they both state a reincarnative afterlife. </i>
<P><P>One more wrong: There is no document in Hindu philosophy which denounces eating meat. There are only suggestions, its upto an individual to follow it or not.
Manusmrti 11:85: This "Manusmriti" was something written by a king Manu thousands years ago for the people of that time.Its not a Hindu religion document. You have no idea abut today's India and you haven't visited India at all! Geocities website example: I can write story about any people and country on Geocities website, I can come up examples of American arrogance on personal websites. Have yourself better informed from reliable sources. India is poor for serious reasons, whatever they are. Those who send jobs to India are trying to erase centuries of cultural failure. Those who outsource to India are trying to get success from a mostly unsuccessful people. If it were all so easy, Indians would make their own country successful, rather than getting money from outside. India is poor for whatever reasons, but you are rich because you have reaped fruits of free trade so far at the cost of poor countries, now its time for countries like India to reap the fruits, you don't like it, go to hell! Indians are some of the most succesful people and they are doing so from their own money, they are working for the money just like anyother bloke in the world, Indians are not borrowing money from anybody, its American CEOs who are running to India to give them jobs, your problem is your own busniess leaders and management, not India or Indians. You lost your job because of your messed up managers, not because of India!