I have never talked to a policeman, or permitted a policeman to talk to me, as anything but an equal. Do you permit a cop to talk down to you?
Golly gee, you're so tough.
In most situations where you are talking to a cop, it is not in your best interests to try and provoke them by showing how cool and clever you are. They don't care, they've seen it all before. If they want the answers to some questions, they can always get them by arresting you for obstructing the police or something vague like that, and leaving you in the cells for a few hours to reflect on your fraternal misapprehensions.
we're all of a sudden discussing the nature of the universe as seen from the perspective of information: are we all just a 2D representation in discrete bits on a 3D
or 4D manifold?
And you can still put "University of XXXXX, Computer Science" on your resume without lying
Not if you didn't get a degree. Otherwise I could write "attended Yale, Harvard, MIT, the Sorbonne and Cambridge universities" because I took a guided tour of the fucking campuses there.
You either have a degree from University of X or you don't. Anything else, and you'll be laughed at.
or they just realize that if they pass on it someone else will just do the job instead
That's also known as the "well someone was going to gas/bayonet the concentration camp victims to death anyway, so why shouldn't I do it?" defence. It doesn't wash.
Most people work a job ONLY to earn money. So, you do what it takes to earn money.
That does not logically follow.
Unless you're in a situation where the alternative is starving to death, which is what capitalists would prefer, you always have a choice about what job you do.
A few years back, Raytheon recruited some of my friends by simply offering them 150% of their current salary at their current employer. That's difficult to say no to.
No, it's not. You either have a moral position towards something or you don't. If you think Raytheon are immoral, you shouldn't work for them. If your ethics can be bought by a pay rise, you are an unethical human being,
I agree that it is almost impossible to say "I don't believe in capitalism and the industrial-military complex, therefore I refuse to work for any sort of organisation that upholds that system" but there is still a difference between a company that makes widgets that may be used in constructing containers that are used to ship overseas vehicles which may be used in violent crowd control, and a company that manufacturers actual torture devices.
No fb account, no twitter account, no google+ account (except for that default one they evidently made for me and keep telling me I should check).
When do they decide I'm an antisocial psychopath who gets bumped to the top of the watch lists?
Most political activists, protesters or terrorists are not antisocial. I imagine you might rate an interest if there's a spate of arson attacks or animal mutilations in your neighbourhood though.
Yes, but if a few dozen suspected protesters all sudenly started sending messages about Dr Jekyll, club soda and boobies, the authorities might find it suggestive.
I mean, do you really think they are waiting for the occasional plain text "I will explode this car bomb at 9pm at number 100 City Road, the car will be a blue Toyota" sort of message?
Just curious..why are you living your whole life stuck in such a rut?
Alternatively, I could say that if the only interesting thing in your life is that you eat different foods every day, you are living in a superficial bubble.
I doubt that Einstein worried about whether he had potatoes three days in a row.
If you're paranoid, you should most definitely have a cell phone and carry it with you most of the time, making the odd call, but conveniently "forget" it when you don't want to be traced by it. Not having a cell phone would be a lot more suspicious nowadays, the authorities would probably assume you had another secret one and go about tracing that.
I think anyone who posts stuff on twitter or facebook like "look there's a riot going on, let's go and join in and do some looting" deserves to get caught and sent to prison for stupidity. But that was effectively what happened during the riots here in the UK in 2011.
It also got tens of thousands of citizens banned from working in all kinds of jobs, because they had the wrong friends, read the wrong papers or were members of the wrong trade union.
If you can be stopped from working somewhere for any of those reasons, your society is fucked. It's not surprising West Germany had so many terrorists in the 1970s if the state was treating legitimate dissent so fascistically.
I'm an atheist the same way I'm amoral. IMHO, morals are way too multi-valued to be a useful guide to modulating my behavior. I'm not anti-moral, or even immoral (how can I be immoral if I don't use any morals?) I'm just amoral, without morals.
I'm not sure if this is a sublte Jesuitical troll, or whether you're a bit thick.
Being an atheist is orthoganol to being a good or bad (moral or immoral) person. Only psychopaths and animals are truly amoral. It is not a good thing in a rational human being.
The nazis hated different people for different reasons. Jews, Romanis and Slavs were hated on a racist basis. Trades unionists, socialists and communists were hated on a political basis. Gays and artists were hated on a moral basis.
One definition of fascism is that it is built on hatred of the other.
I don't get it, are you saying his name is not his?
Names are not things. They are pointers to things. Ron Paul's body is his, his name is just a succession of sounds that happpen to represent him, just as they represent anyone else with the name "Ron Paul".
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I have never talked to a policeman, or permitted a policeman to talk to me, as anything but an equal. Do you permit a cop to talk down to you?
Golly gee, you're so tough.
In most situations where you are talking to a cop, it is not in your best interests to try and provoke them by showing how cool and clever you are. They don't care, they've seen it all before. If they want the answers to some questions, they can always get them by arresting you for obstructing the police or something vague like that, and leaving you in the cells for a few hours to reflect on your fraternal misapprehensions.
In a civilised society, you don't resort to shooting people when you get frustrated.
we're all of a sudden discussing the nature of the universe as seen from the perspective of information: are we all just a 2D representation in discrete bits on a 3D or 4D manifold?
No. Well, you might be, but I'm certainly not.
And you can still put "University of XXXXX, Computer Science" on your resume without lying
Not if you didn't get a degree. Otherwise I could write "attended Yale, Harvard, MIT, the Sorbonne and Cambridge universities" because I took a guided tour of the fucking campuses there.
You either have a degree from University of X or you don't. Anything else, and you'll be laughed at.
Nice troll.
He's also looking for a challenge and dreads having to do boring routine work for a living.
Being a uniquely precious snowflake does not give you a Get Out Of Jail Free card when it comes to ethics.
They're not acting unethically; they're just acting according to a different set of ethics than yours
Moral relativism fails after a certain point. The Nazis didn't just have a "different set of ethics" from me, they were fucking monsters.
or they just realize that if they pass on it someone else will just do the job instead
That's also known as the "well someone was going to gas/bayonet the concentration camp victims to death anyway, so why shouldn't I do it?" defence. It doesn't wash.
Most people work a job ONLY to earn money. So, you do what it takes to earn money.
That does not logically follow.
Unless you're in a situation where the alternative is starving to death, which is what capitalists would prefer, you always have a choice about what job you do.
A few years back, Raytheon recruited some of my friends by simply offering them 150% of their current salary at their current employer. That's difficult to say no to.
No, it's not. You either have a moral position towards something or you don't. If you think Raytheon are immoral, you shouldn't work for them. If your ethics can be bought by a pay rise, you are an unethical human being,
I agree that it is almost impossible to say "I don't believe in capitalism and the industrial-military complex, therefore I refuse to work for any sort of organisation that upholds that system" but there is still a difference between a company that makes widgets that may be used in constructing containers that are used to ship overseas vehicles which may be used in violent crowd control, and a company that manufacturers actual torture devices.
The stereotype programmer is young, bright, scientific, idealistic, and concerned for global issues.
I expect a lot of Nazis were too.
I've no idea where you get your stereotype from.
No fb account, no twitter account, no google+ account (except for that default one they evidently made for me and keep telling me I should check).
When do they decide I'm an antisocial psychopath who gets bumped to the top of the watch lists?
Most political activists, protesters or terrorists are not antisocial. I imagine you might rate an interest if there's a spate of arson attacks or animal mutilations in your neighbourhood though.
I mean, do you really think they are waiting for the occasional plain text "I will explode this car bomb at 9pm at number 100 City Road, the car will be a blue Toyota" sort of message?
Just curious..why are you living your whole life stuck in such a rut?
Alternatively, I could say that if the only interesting thing in your life is that you eat different foods every day, you are living in a superficial bubble.
I doubt that Einstein worried about whether he had potatoes three days in a row.
The strategic response to this type of stalking initiatives shall be known as the Unified Posting Yield Obfuscating Response System.
U missed one before Response there.
are our egos really that huge that we need to advertise where we are every time we take a photo?
Apparently, yes. No one forces people to upload their pics to facebook or whatever.
George Orwell got it wrong in 1984. You don't need goverment telescreens monitoring you, people seem quite happy to do it themselves voluntarily.
If you're paranoid, you should most definitely have a cell phone and carry it with you most of the time, making the odd call, but conveniently "forget" it when you don't want to be traced by it. Not having a cell phone would be a lot more suspicious nowadays, the authorities would probably assume you had another secret one and go about tracing that.
I think anyone who posts stuff on twitter or facebook like "look there's a riot going on, let's go and join in and do some looting" deserves to get caught and sent to prison for stupidity. But that was effectively what happened during the riots here in the UK in 2011.
It also got tens of thousands of citizens banned from working in all kinds of jobs, because they had the wrong friends, read the wrong papers or were members of the wrong trade union.
If you can be stopped from working somewhere for any of those reasons, your society is fucked. It's not surprising West Germany had so many terrorists in the 1970s if the state was treating legitimate dissent so fascistically.
I'm really not sure we should be giving him publicity on slashdot.
I'm an atheist the same way I'm amoral. IMHO, morals are way too multi-valued to be a useful guide to modulating my behavior. I'm not anti-moral, or even immoral (how can I be immoral if I don't use any morals?) I'm just amoral, without morals.
I'm not sure if this is a sublte Jesuitical troll, or whether you're a bit thick.
Being an atheist is orthoganol to being a good or bad (moral or immoral) person. Only psychopaths and animals are truly amoral. It is not a good thing in a rational human being.
One definition of fascism is that it is built on hatred of the other.
I'm not a lawyer, but the trademark law might disagree with you here.
Is "Ron Paul" a registered trademark then?
I don't get it, are you saying his name is not his?
Names are not things. They are pointers to things. Ron Paul's body is his, his name is just a succession of sounds that happpen to represent him, just as they represent anyone else with the name "Ron Paul".
I think you're trying to say that there is only One True Haggis.