Oh no it doesn't put an end to the 'Oh no it doesn't work crap. Because to do so would require that you believe his methodology. Which is based on a thermal camera sitting out on a desk. No calorimetry involved, no real calculation of heat capacity. Basically total BS.
I got really good at Graffiti. I'm an indifferent typist - 20-30 wpm and could almost keep up with the Palm. The nice thing is I didn't have to look at the (tiny little) screen.
- They measure 'power output' with a thermal camera in free air - not even the faintest attempt at making a calorimeter. - Rossi was present at a critical junction in the test 'loading the reactor' (whooo).
The former sounds very, very fishy. You can't measure quantitative thermal output of anything with a thermal camera suspended in a room. A much better method would be to use some sort of calorimeter - something that was enclosed and could measure all of the heat put out by the system.
The big unknown is what 'full protective gear' means. A class A suit? Masks, gloves, Tyvek gown? It would be pretty hard to get an infection in the former (although hardly impossible), rather easy to take the stuff off incorrectly (which turns out to be the hard part) and get a couple of viral particles on you. This will be a teaching point for health care workers - Do It Right. People get tired, they get distracted, they get sloppy. Although Ebola won't jump out an bite you, it still deserves quite a bit of respect.
No, you're not quite there yet. To be an appropriate Slashdot summary it should go:
In the past sixteen (base 10) years, Marathon runners (people who run 42.195 km (or 26 miles) for recreation, god rest their souls) have cut the word record from 2 hours six minutes and twenty three seconds to 2 hours three minutes and twenty three seconds, further improvment's will become progressively harder to achieve.*
Perhaps 'only' 100 that you know about, but that statement is clearly insane. These attacks aren't just done by some long haired, Dorito fueled teenager with 16 screens and a hot girlfriend. Like everything else these days they're done by teams of people. Somebody good at Windows, somebody good at Cisco routers, someone skilled in social hacks, somebody with access to money.
I don't know why we even bother with these sorts of articles. They guy's credibility is about as good as the average politician.
"It is a tale told by and idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."
Planes have some things that mitigate viral spread and some things that promote it. On the mitigation side there is the air filtration and the fact that passengers don't mingle all that much. On the promoter side is that the air is dry - lots of viruses and bacteria like low humidity, there are lots of hard plastics where particles can collect and be easily picked up and the fact that you are stuck next to your seatmate for a possibly prolonged period of time. And of course, for most passengers, they have the opportunity to come in contact with a large number of random people in the airport terminal.
In a brief search, I found some evidence that commercial aircraft travel is associated with a high rate of viral URI infections (approx 20% of passengers which is well above background).
All true (for those reading above -1, norovirus is very contagious) however.... The cruise ships can contain the infections using simple measures. Yes, some people get sick (and if this were Ebola, would likely die) but MOST people can avoid transmission.
And it appears that Ebola isn't quite as contagious as Norovirus. Close, but not quite a bad.
THIS is what frosts me. You don't need a Class A Hazmat suit. You do need to understand - and strictly follow - Standard Precautions. The 'nice' thing about a Class A or B suit is that you can be a bit sloppy and get away with it. But it's not like Ebola jumps out and bites you.
But all of this 'Hazmat theatre' is going to get everybody thinking the only way to prevent infection from Ebola is to seal yourself off from the world. Now, I'm not saying that that's necessarily a bad idea. For one thing, you could finally get through the TSA checks in less than a hour, but it certainly is overkill (although that might be a poor choice of words).
You could do it. Find an Ebola victim, drag them into the bush and drain a couple liters of blood. Spin it down, put the serum on ice, bring it to headquarters well outside the infected zone.
Infect a couple of dozen 'freedom fighters'. Pop them onto planes to major cities. Do this quickly before the virus takes.
Once the terrorist becomes symptomatic, run into a crowded area with a hand grenade or fragmentation device. Poof - a very dirty bomb.
Yep, especially when they deny all of the screening questions.. That's helpful.
It's also helpful to understand that the Dallas case was the FIRST field infection in the US (as opposed to the patients with known Ebola that were transferred here for further care). It just wasn't on the radar. Nobody's perfect, least of all a busy ER doc with someone who could well have a;typical; viral illness. I don't know why he was sent home on antibiotics - that seems a bit sloppy (although the doc might have seen something that looked like a secondary infection - we don't have that level of detail).
You can bet that this sort of thing won't happen again. Until the scared, confused patient answers the screening questions incorrectly.
Probably the single most useful thing the government could do is to shut down CNN. Yes, it would be terribly illegal but hell, never let a crisis go to waste.
Further, no screening protocol short of a full on two week quarantine will catch everybody. Given the less than terrible procreative habits of Ebola, cutting down on the disease burden is a useful epidemiological tool.
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Oh no it doesn't put an end to the 'Oh no it doesn't work crap. Because to do so would require that you believe his methodology. Which is based on a thermal camera sitting out on a desk. No calorimetry involved, no real calculation of heat capacity. Basically total BS.
I got really good at Graffiti. I'm an indifferent typist - 20-30 wpm and could almost keep up with the Palm. The nice thing is I didn't have to look at the (tiny little) screen.
Wow. I might have to switch to an Android phone. I really miss Graffiti.
Now, all of you, off my lawn.
Jeebus:
- They measure 'power output' with a thermal camera in free air - not even the faintest attempt at making a calorimeter.
- Rossi was present at a critical junction in the test 'loading the reactor' (whooo).
The former sounds very, very fishy. You can't measure quantitative thermal output of anything with a thermal camera suspended in a room. A much better method would be to use some sort of calorimeter - something that was enclosed and could measure all of the heat put out by the system.
A panel of Congressmen?
640 qbits ought to be enough for anyone.
(sorry, sorry, I won't let it happen again.)
Typically the stuff has been spun down and freeze dried so it's not so bad....
In the interim, why you crazies are arguing the difference between deflaguration and detonation, the kid's head falls off.
I hope you are happy with yourselves.....
The big unknown is what 'full protective gear' means. A class A suit? Masks, gloves, Tyvek gown? It would be pretty hard to get an infection in the former (although hardly impossible), rather easy to take the stuff off incorrectly (which turns out to be the hard part) and get a couple of viral particles on you. This will be a teaching point for health care workers - Do It Right. People get tired, they get distracted, they get sloppy. Although Ebola won't jump out an bite you, it still deserves quite a bit of respect.
So now when she says to you 'you miserable snake', she might well be correct?
I wonder when the sequencing data for these guys will show up. You know they've done it....
No, you're not quite there yet. To be an appropriate Slashdot summary it should go:
In the past sixteen (base 10) years, Marathon runners (people who run 42.195 km (or 26 miles) for recreation, god rest their souls) have cut the word record from 2 hours six minutes and twenty three seconds to 2 hours three minutes and twenty three seconds, further improvment's will become progressively harder to achieve.*
*spelling and punctuation errors intentional
Perhaps 'only' 100 that you know about, but that statement is clearly insane. These attacks aren't just done by some long haired, Dorito fueled teenager with 16 screens and a hot girlfriend. Like everything else these days they're done by teams of people. Somebody good at Windows, somebody good at Cisco routers, someone skilled in social hacks, somebody with access to money.
I don't know why we even bother with these sorts of articles. They guy's credibility is about as good as the average politician.
"It is a tale told by and idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."
Planes have some things that mitigate viral spread and some things that promote it. On the mitigation side there is the air filtration and the fact that passengers don't mingle all that much. On the promoter side is that the air is dry - lots of viruses and bacteria like low humidity, there are lots of hard plastics where particles can collect and be easily picked up and the fact that you are stuck next to your seatmate for a possibly prolonged period of time. And of course, for most passengers, they have the opportunity to come in contact with a large number of random people in the airport terminal.
In a brief search, I found some evidence that commercial aircraft travel is associated with a high rate of viral URI infections (approx 20% of passengers which is well above background).
All true (for those reading above -1, norovirus is very contagious) however .... The cruise ships can contain the infections using simple measures. Yes, some people get sick (and if this were Ebola, would likely die) but MOST people can avoid transmission.
And it appears that Ebola isn't quite as contagious as Norovirus. Close, but not quite a bad.
THIS is what frosts me. You don't need a Class A Hazmat suit. You do need to understand - and strictly follow - Standard Precautions. The 'nice' thing about a Class A or B suit is that you can be a bit sloppy and get away with it. But it's not like Ebola jumps out and bites you.
But all of this 'Hazmat theatre' is going to get everybody thinking the only way to prevent infection from Ebola is to seal yourself off from the world. Now, I'm not saying that that's necessarily a bad idea. For one thing, you could finally get through the TSA checks in less than a hour, but it certainly is overkill (although that might be a poor choice of words).
Oh, there are lots of us. We're just hiding in our bunkers.
You could do it. Find an Ebola victim, drag them into the bush and drain a couple liters of blood. Spin it down, put the serum on ice, bring it to headquarters well outside the infected zone.
Infect a couple of dozen 'freedom fighters'. Pop them onto planes to major cities. Do this quickly before the virus takes.
Once the terrorist becomes symptomatic, run into a crowded area with a hand grenade or fragmentation device. Poof - a very dirty bomb.
Wait a sec, somebody's knocking at the door.....
Yep, especially when they deny all of the screening questions.. That's helpful.
It's also helpful to understand that the Dallas case was the FIRST field infection in the US (as opposed to the patients with known Ebola that were transferred here for further care). It just wasn't on the radar. Nobody's perfect, least of all a busy ER doc with someone who could well have a ;typical; viral illness. I don't know why he was sent home on antibiotics - that seems a bit sloppy (although the doc might have seen something that looked like a secondary infection - we don't have that level of detail).
You can bet that this sort of thing won't happen again. Until the scared, confused patient answers the screening questions incorrectly.
Probably the single most useful thing the government could do is to shut down CNN. Yes, it would be terribly illegal but hell, never let a crisis go to waste.
*sigh*. I think it's about being scared of being scared of Ebola at this point.
Not quite. It's scared about being scared about being scared about Ebola. In other words, it's Ebola, all the way down.
Further, no screening protocol short of a full on two week quarantine will catch everybody. Given the less than terrible procreative habits of Ebola, cutting down on the disease burden is a useful epidemiological tool.
And, if she was wearing any sort of face mask and eye protection (like you are supposed to do), nothing untoward would have happened.
Contact precautions aren't particularly hard, but they do require a significant degree of vigilance which is not a human being's strong point.
The military never left. Remember the Air Force only Shuttle launches?
Link.
Further, the Slashdot PDP-11 doesn't have an editing capability.
Amazing.