what's fine is that they served. their leaderstold them to protect our home by going 10000mi away and fight an enemy we had no business fighting. The fineness is that they risked themselves to defend us, no matter how flimsy the rationale was.
Obviously killing unarmed civilians isn't fine, but not every veteran went raping, murdering, and pillaging. Is that what you think? Hmmmm? Commie.
I'm Calling Bullshit on all the posts here: Everyone is so damn mired down in the fricking bullshit that is Kerry and Bush. The sad thing is, Only a few of you actually speak any sanity, while everyone else trounces Bush or tries to be lillylivered about the issue. And the Moderators suppress truth and sanity in favor of debate htat is meaningless.
Everyone chant along with me.... Y'all Full of It.
three strike laws apply to felonies. One gets felonies in protests by committing grievious assault or a crime of equivalent severity. Mere presence is unlawful assembly, a misdemeanor.
the constitution has never been an allowed defense. Juries are to find guilt or innocence according to the law (aside from jury nullification, which is usually viewed as illegitamite). Appeals courts handle the constitution
Get your facts right before you call someone a liar.
MR. CROSBY NOYES (Washington Evening Star): Mr. Kerry, you said at one time or another that you think our policies in Vietnam are tantamount to genocide and that the responsibility lies at all chains of command over there. Do you consider that you personally as a Naval officer committed atrocities in Vietnam or crimes punishable by law in this country?
SEN. KERRY: There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50 calibre machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people. I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions and all of this is ordered as a matter of written established policy by the government of the United States from the top down. And I believe that the men who designed these, the men who designed the free fire zone, the men who ordered us, the men who signed off the air raid strike areas, I think these men, by the letter of the law, the same letter of the law that tried Lieutenant Calley, are war criminals.
"As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress. (Jargon Dictionary)
A comparison was made, between Bush standing for something, and Hitler standing for something. What more do you want?
I know who the moderators are going to vote for - anyone anti-kerry or pro-truth (not necessarily pro bush) is abandoned whole the pro-kerry posts are "informative"
I know my posts are mostly ignorable, but there must be SOMEONE the doesn't believe Kerry and says so good enough to get moddedup
Yeah, after 4 months he got bored and decided to throw in the towel. Oh, wait! No, I'm wrong! He got injured 3 times, in engagements which earned him bronze and silver stars, before being sent home.
The whole point of the allegations: His injuries were self-inflicted or otherwise manipulated to utilise a loophole designed to get outta hell a lot quicker than our other fine veterans
And before you call bullshit, there is at least one incident that is verified and part of public record: Kerry took shrapnel, claiming that it was during an incident in which there was no shrapnel produced
Vietnam Veterans Against Kerry (the website pointed to by the 'Kerry' link) is the organization running attack ads on US television, attempting to besmirch Kerry's war record. The adverts include the catchphrase 'I served with Kerry', which is stretching the truth a bit -- not a single vet in the adverts actually served alongside Kerry, they were merely in Vietnam at the same time
The group running ads is "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth". Both groups clain to have served in vietnam, the swift boat people claim to have served "alongside" Kerry - their boats were almost always with Kerry's - as per standard procedure. These guys saw exactly what Kerry did and didn't do, and tell it in commercials and a book.
I don't know anything about the other group. Kerry is threatening to sue TV stations that run ads from "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth"
This is good enough reason not to vote for him for suppressing the truth. I guess Nader will have to do.
And don't diss Bush, no one knows if he did coke, and he's smart enough to take a stand on issues - something Kerry cannot. Unfortunately for me, it's the wrong one.
They're two of the most liberal, biased, full-of-shit papers in America. There's no excuse to be reading them every damned day
Read Everything, not just biased crap served on a flatscreen, you insensitive clod.
In a lot of school CPU labs for windows lusers, the systems are set up so that they cannot be "damaged" by the user. Deletions, changes to data, and installations are wiped out every so often. Apparently, one thing that cannot ever be changed are any settings attached to MS-WORD or Clippy. So, he reappears all the time. At my school (Anonymous U.) I tried to "lose" his data files to fix it. They would just hit the reset button.
I think it would be really humorous if cnn bought the rights to the simpsons: Homer co-anchors (and slobbers all over) Headline News Tonight with Rudi Bakhtiar (for the obvious reason.)
Anway....
I'm not sure that the simpson's are worth what they're asking for today. The first ten season's - sure, they're worth a lot. But now, they seem like there are no new ideas, no life in them. Let the cadaver rest in peace (or puppet them around in syndication).
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awards applied for by kerry himself and granted based on false and misleading information... there should be no support for that
the 23:1 is of those who served on swift boats and either oppose or support his version of events
and 50K sounds rather arbitrary... if he told the truth and earned his awards, only one would be necessary, although he'd have the entire military.
what's fine is that they served. their leaderstold them to protect our home by going 10000mi away and fight an enemy we had no business fighting. The fineness is that they risked themselves to defend us, no matter how flimsy the rationale was.
Obviously killing unarmed civilians isn't fine, but not every veteran went raping, murdering, and pillaging. Is that what you think? Hmmmm? Commie.
I'm Calling Bullshit on all the posts here: Everyone is so damn mired down in the fricking bullshit that is Kerry and Bush. The sad thing is, Only a few of you actually speak any sanity, while everyone else trounces Bush or tries to be lillylivered about the issue. And the Moderators suppress truth and sanity in favor of debate htat is meaningless.
Everyone chant along with me.... Y'all Full of It.
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Boy, this is going to kill my karma
wrong...
in a democracy, the sheep dies.
In a republic, the sheep and a wolf die, and the others pay tax on the meal. They also cannot shag afterward.
Judges are for determining fact and applying the law. Writing law by decision was never their purpose.
And so, i must CALL BULLSHIT!
three strike laws apply to felonies. One gets felonies in protests by committing grievious assault or a crime of equivalent severity. Mere presence is unlawful assembly, a misdemeanor.
the constitution has never been an allowed defense. Juries are to find guilt or innocence according to the law (aside from jury nullification, which is usually viewed as illegitamite). Appeals courts handle the constitution
thanks.... /. is beginning to look like the USSR version of /. ....
in America, the imperialist pigs mod you evil troll.
But really, this is more if timothy's bullshit about losing rights already lost.
it's the only thing he claims to have done.
in 20 years in the Senate, he did nothing.
He marries wealthy women and uses their money.
the only thing he mentions is "When I was in Vietnam...."
Get your facts right before you call someone a liar.
MR. CROSBY NOYES (Washington Evening Star): Mr. Kerry, you said at one time or another that you think our policies in Vietnam are tantamount to genocide and that the responsibility lies at all chains of command over there. Do you consider that you personally as a Naval officer committed atrocities in Vietnam or crimes punishable by law in this country?
SEN. KERRY: There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50 calibre machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people. I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions and all of this is ordered as a matter of written established policy by the government of the United States from the top down. And I believe that the men who designed these, the men who designed the free fire zone, the men who ordered us, the men who signed off the air raid strike areas, I think these men, by the letter of the law, the same letter of the law that tried Lieutenant Calley, are war criminals.
How the hell is this a troll? Since when is telling the truth trolldom?
"As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress. (Jargon Dictionary)
A comparison was made, between Bush standing for something, and Hitler standing for something. What more do you want?
we ain't a democracy, we're a republic.
The constitution provides for a republican form of government, in which we can choose represenatives.
You insensitive clod.
I know who the moderators are going to vote for - anyone anti-kerry or pro-truth (not necessarily pro bush) is abandoned whole the pro-kerry posts are "informative"
I know my posts are mostly ignorable, but there must be SOMEONE the doesn't believe Kerry and says so good enough to get moddedup
You invoked Hitler, I win :)
Who is the more credible witness amongst people who saw the same things? Kerry's supporters are outnumbered by detractors 23:1
I trust his equals and commanders, who contradict what he says than his subordinates who pal around with him
And I didn't support bush, i support truth. I respect bush.
Yeah, after 4 months he got bored and decided to throw in the towel. Oh, wait! No, I'm wrong! He got injured 3 times, in engagements which earned him bronze and silver stars, before being sent home.
:P
The whole point of the allegations: His injuries were self-inflicted or otherwise manipulated to utilise a loophole designed to get outta hell a lot quicker than our other fine veterans
And before you call bullshit, there is at least one incident that is verified and part of public record: Kerry took shrapnel, claiming that it was during an incident in which there was no shrapnel produced
Again showing, you're full of it
I Call Bullshit:
Vietnam Veterans Against Kerry (the website pointed to by the 'Kerry' link) is the organization running attack ads on US television, attempting to besmirch Kerry's war record. The adverts include the catchphrase 'I served with Kerry', which is stretching the truth a bit -- not a single vet in the adverts actually served alongside Kerry, they were merely in Vietnam at the same time
The group running ads is "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth". Both groups clain to have served in vietnam, the swift boat people claim to have served "alongside" Kerry - their boats were almost always with Kerry's - as per standard procedure. These guys saw exactly what Kerry did and didn't do, and tell it in commercials and a book.
I don't know anything about the other group. Kerry is threatening to sue TV stations that run ads from "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth"
This is good enough reason not to vote for him for suppressing the truth. I guess Nader will have to do.
And don't diss Bush, no one knows if he did coke, and he's smart enough to take a stand on issues - something Kerry cannot. Unfortunately for me, it's the wrong one.
How fast was your CPU going to red-shift the BSOD?
That's an accelerator I need - forget relativistic spaceships, just hitch the CPU to an old VW Beetle, launch the accelerator, and fly away.
They're two of the most liberal, biased, full-of-shit papers in America. There's no excuse to be reading them every damned day Read Everything, not just biased crap served on a flatscreen, you insensitive clod.
In a lot of school CPU labs for windows lusers, the systems are set up so that they cannot be "damaged" by the user. Deletions, changes to data, and installations are wiped out every so often. Apparently, one thing that cannot ever be changed are any settings attached to MS-WORD or Clippy. So, he reappears all the time. At my school (Anonymous U.) I tried to "lose" his data files to fix it. They would just hit the reset button.
This is just more of timothy 's worrrying about nothing and useless, banal posting.
Keep it up
I think it would be really humorous if cnn bought the rights to the simpsons: Homer co-anchors (and slobbers all over) Headline News Tonight with Rudi Bakhtiar (for the obvious reason.)
Anway....
I'm not sure that the simpson's are worth what they're asking for today. The first ten season's - sure, they're worth a lot. But now, they seem like there are no new ideas, no life in them. Let the cadaver rest in peace (or puppet them around in syndication).
Ewwwww.